12 comments:

• Jerry Bransom posted at 4:00 am on Tue, Sep 18, 2012.

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  JB.. I never said any such thing. Are you high? Poor Parents as in "Poor Parenting Skills"

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• roy bitz posted at 10:38 pm on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

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  Am I the only one who believes part time elected volunteers should not receive Cadillac heath care and retirement benefits? If anyone out there thinks this is right please chime in.
  Remember--they are elected part time volunteers. They are not required to meet standards--they are not evaluated---heck they don't even have to show up or they can just be " a fly on the wall" once voted in.
  I believe they should receive compensation while in office but not healthcare or retirement
  

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:22 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

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  Ms Bobin stated...Shame on you, Mr. Bramson, for making a blanket condemnation of an entire class of people without thought to individual circumstance or achievement

  
  Blatant hypocrisy in motion is Ms Bobin... She calls Lodi a good old boy town with Bigots around every corner.. she is very comfortable with castigating and belittling all tea party members as some sort of hate group. In fact, Ms Bobin makes it a daily habit to attack groups ( conservatives, republicans, Catholics, priests...( an endless list) she hates by making blanket statements concerning these groups without thought to individual circumstance or achievement..

  Another Tina Fey moment for Ms Bobin... She is making Palin look intelligent,thoughtful and wise in contrast to herself who represents far left liberal demagoguery.
  

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:05 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

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  As a matter of principle, does he keep the dollar or ask the district to keep it.

  Also, I think you are leaving out 90 % of the story. I cannot imagine that the district would want the bad PR that would come with contractually setting up a retirement benefit of $1.00 for their valued employees. What are you intentionally leaving out to make your point look meaningful?

  Lastly, you have stated that I have an imaginary wife for no apparent reason when I refer to her circumstances ... should the public assume you are referring to an imaginary husband you pretend to have for illustrative purposes or a figment of your imagination., or is he a real person?
  

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 8:35 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

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  Mr. Bramson wrote: "There it is... PARENTS... there should be a law against poor parents. Their participation in their child's education and behavior at school should be the primary standard."

  While I agree that parent involvement is critical to a child's success at school, I am quite appalled that Mr. Bramson attributes ALL lack of parent involvement to POOR parents, and in fact thinks it should be against the law for poor people to have children.

  The so-called "poor" people of which Mr. Bramson speaks contribute taxes either through home ownership or by renting, unless all of these "poor" people are living in tents on public land.

  Shame on you, Mr. Bramson, for making a blanket condemnation of an entire class of people without thought to individual circumstance or achievement.

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 8:35 am on Mon, Sep 17, 2012.

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  Nice work (and benefits) if you can get it.

  My husband was a teacher and an administrator for twenty years. He spent an average of 60 hours per week at his job plus many weekends performing in-service training for peers.

  Now that he is retired, he receives a total monthly contribution for medical benefits from the district from which he retired in the amount of ONE DOLLAR.

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• roy bitz posted at 11:22 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

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  Board members should be compensated while they are Actually serving. The compensation should cover any out of pocket costs--- nothing more. These folks are " "appointed volunteers". All Compensation should end when one is no longer serving actively on any board!
  The same thing should go for our city council members.
  Did you knowI our "elected part-time volunteers" our council members voted themselves Cadillac healthcare and retirement years ago? This seems wrong to me for a couple of reasons:
  1. Part-time employees do not qualify for such benefits. Why would part-time volunteers be gifted these benefits? Just because other city councils get them?
  2. Council members are currently participating in a benefit program from a current or past employer or in a government program so this is actually a double dip.
  No?
  I realize many other city councils have voted themselves Cadillac health care and retirement programs but that does not make it right.
  What say you council members?

  
  

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:22 pm on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

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  Jerry, you gave me something to think about. I was actually not thinking about the value or quality of services the board provides. I was more thinking that certain people elevate themselves in a perceived upper class thinking they deserve something that others do not.

  The members of the school board may have that perception and yet might still do a good job and have the best interests of the students in mind from their perspective.

  I am curious what board members think now. If they get a benefit the rest of society cannot, do they think it is appropriate they get the benefit just because they have the power to do so or how do they rationalize it.

  Personally, I would not accept the benefit if I were a board member unless I paid 100% of the premium. There are many people in United States that serve as board of directors in non profit corporations that do not get a salary or healthcare benefits?
  As I do not perceive myself entitled to something others cannot get, it would be hard to rationalize taking advantage even if I could.
  

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• Jerry Bransom posted at 9:35 am on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

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  You said it right Darrell. What the government bureaucrat is all about these days has nothing to do with "civic mindedness" rather it is more about money and power. I do not see any of them doing a thing to make education better. They are simply "getting by."

  I challenge anyone to show me where any board member has done a darn thing to get Parents involved in their kids education. There it is... PARENTS... there should be a law against poor parents. Their participation in their child's education and behavior at school should be the primary standard. School Boards will not touch this epidemic for fear of losing their benefits. We may as well have an agency do their jobs. It would be much cheaper.

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• Ron Werner posted at 12:41 am on Sun, Sep 16, 2012.

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  An excellent example of how our school system spends money. When they run out we are asked for tax increases to save our schools. VOTE NO ON PROP 30 and 38.

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• Bob Marconi posted at 4:10 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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  Of course they should not receive benefits. It's supposed to be a "community service" position. We're not Stockton, not SUSD, are we? Greedy people cashing in at the taxpayers' expense.

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:53 am on Sat, Sep 15, 2012.

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  In the real world, a person is not eligible to participate in a group health plan unless they work 20 or 30 hours as a paid employee.
  If a 501 C corporation ( small business of 1000 employees) has a board of directors, these board of directors cannot qualify for benefits ( legally by contract unless self funded)

  Why is it that the education industry perceives themselves a first class citizen who deserves more and qualifies for health insurance and pensions when the rest of the world does not.

  People who are in the social security system in the private sector cannot get STRS or health care simply because they serve on a board.

  Maybe these people are special... maybe they do deserve more and everyone else should simply resign themselves to being second class citizens not worthy of what the education industry perceives their specialness entitles themselves to.

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