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Gay marriage ban overturned

Some in Lodi applaud decision, but others remain skeptical

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Posted: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 5:56 am, Wed Feb 8, 2012.

Gays and their supporters in Lodi and Galt were glad to learn that a 9th U.S. Circuit of Appeals panel ruled in favor of gay marriage in California on Tuesday, though some believe it's just another step toward having the issue decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.

"It's a great step forward to what will hopefully be the right to marry," said Nicholas Hadden, executive director of the San Joaquin Pride Center in Stockton. "While I'm excited and happy, my excitement is tempered in that they put a stay on getting married. It looks like it's going to the Supreme Court, so we'll see what happens."

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10 comments:

  • Alex Kennedy posted at 4:55 pm on Wed, Feb 8, 2012.

    Alex Posts: 215

    JK stated: t. We have a rock-bottom core belief that homosexuality (the act) is sinful; just as any other sin is an affront to God, to make exceptions in our faith would then prove us to be hypocritical.

    Do you play football? Wear clothing of mixed fibers? Eat shellfish? I'm sure you made exceptions for these abominations. Hypocrite.

     
  • Alex Kennedy posted at 4:50 pm on Wed, Feb 8, 2012.

    Alex Posts: 215

    Why do choose to focus on homosexuals and ignore the other "sins" below. Why do we not enact laws based on all these sins? If we are really concerned about the sanctity of marriage, why not outlaw divorce. Divorce tears apart the fabric of the family way more than gays ever could.

     
  • Alex Kennedy posted at 4:46 pm on Wed, Feb 8, 2012.

    Alex Posts: 215

    List of biblical sins: Old and New Testament

    NOT FEEDING GOD’S CHILDREN THAT ARE HUNGRY Mt 25:42

    NOT SPANKING A DISOBEDIENT CHILD  Pv 13:24

    WEARING THE CLOTHING OF THE OPPOSITE SEX i.e women in pants   Deut 22:5

    WOMEN-BEAUTY THAT COMES FROM WEARING GOLD JEWELRY  1 Pe 3:3
    NOT BEING MEEK AND QUIET 1 Pe 3:4
    CURSING THE LORD’S NAME
    Ex 20:7
    Penalty for cursing the Lord’s name is death
    CURSING THE RICH Ecc. 10:20

    NOT HONORING THE KING (PRESIDENT) 1 Pe 2:17

    BEING IDLE (NOT WORKING WHEN WORK IS AVAILABLE)
    1 Tim 5:13; Mt 20:6,7; 2 Thes 3:10

    DIVORCE, EXCEPT FOR CERTAIN CONDITIONS Mt 19:9

    GETTING DRUNK (DRUNKEN)
    Lk 12:45,46; Ro 13:13; 1 Cor 6:10 
    EATING AND DRINKING WITH THE DRUNKEN Mt 24:49

    BELIEVING IN EVOLUTION  Ps 100:3

    FORNICATION
    Acts 15:20; Mk 7:21; Ro 1:29

    FORTUNE-TELLING
    Acts 16:16-18 NIV; Deut 18:10,11

    GAMBLING Lk 12:15

    BEING A GLUTTON
    Duet 21:20; Pv 23:21; Lk 21:34

    ROB GOD BY NOT GIVING 10% PLUS OFFERINGS (CURSED)  Mal 3:8,9

    TO BE CALLED RABBI Mt 23:8

    RICHES, SEEKING TO BE RICH
    1 Tim 6:9

    NOT KEEPING THE SABBATH OR DAY OF THE LORD
    Ex 20:8,9; Neh 13:15-19

    SHEPHERD, NOT STRENGTHEN THE DISEASED  Exek 34:4

    NOT READING THE BIBLE (DAILY)
    Ps 1:2; Acts 17:11; 1Pe 2:2; 1 Tim 4:13

    Deuteronomy 22:11 Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woolen and linen together.

    Touching the skin of a dead pig (e.g.: playing football, etc.) (Lev. 11:7-8) 

    Stoning blasphemers (Lev.24:14)

    Planting two different crops in the same field (Lev. 19:19) 

    (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB)If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

    One of my faves regarding victims of sexual assult:

    (Deuteronomy 22:23-24) If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

     
  • Robert Jacobs posted at 12:11 pm on Wed, Feb 8, 2012.

    Robert Jacobs Posts: 298

    Jerome Kinderman I think you said it best... I was too lazy to type much, so I read your comment intead and happen to completely agree...

     
  • Robert Jacobs posted at 12:08 pm on Wed, Feb 8, 2012.

    Robert Jacobs Posts: 298

    I don't personally care what other people do, as long as they don't hurt anyone in the process. However, the bible says those who practice these things are already condemned! So I guess there is actually someone who does care, and as far as I know always has his way....

    Good luck...

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 10:46 am on Wed, Feb 8, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2363

    In response to Mr. Diskin’s remarks regarding standing in the way of homosexuals’ enjoyment of marriage, as Pastor Rails believes homosexuality to be sinful, so he and many others also believe recreational drug use to be sinful. But lots of people really do enjoy using drugs for recreational purposes – should the church then move this issue into the non-sinful column simply because people want to “enjoy” it?

    The fact is there are many actions that while fun or enjoyable, are abominations to God. We choose to believe in God and His Word and likewise do our level best to obey Him. As such we try to be as Christ-like as possible. Do we sin? Oh you betcha we do! Human beings are sinful in nature. But we do try not to be.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 10:43 am on Wed, Feb 8, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2363

    Of course starting to argue this matter here again will result in nothing much of value. But I do find it disingenuous of those who claim that churches that oppose homosexual unions stand that way because they are nothing but a bunch of bigots. We're not. We have a rock-bottom core belief that homosexuality (the act) is sinful; just as any other sin is an affront to God, to make exceptions in our faith would then prove us to be hypocritical.

    Even when we try so hard to explain that as Christians we do love the sinner but not the sin, as it pertains to this one issue there are those who will claim to never understand it. As far as those who don’t accept it, there’s not much I can do about that.

    Of course the result should be for the church is to simply let the law stand once it is finally determined, but never change the standing of the church. The result is that people who continue to engage in homosexual acts and have no desire to change their behavior cannot be members of churches that believe their actions to be sinful nor can they be permitted to be married in our churches for the very same reason. This is a principle based upon our faith in God and His Word.

    Now if the 9th Circuit is successful in overturning the will of the people of the State of California, then I suppose civil marriages will be the best course for homosexuals to take. However, I hope those performing these ceremonies don’t ask for God’s blessing on these unions; because if they do this will clearly be a violation of the “separation of church and state.”

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 10:33 am on Wed, Feb 8, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2574

    Around the state thousands of gay men and women who really like other women (and not just as friends) celebrated...

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 10:32 am on Wed, Feb 8, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2574

    How can we even discuss this question when we can't say the word L-E-S-B-I-A-N?

    Come on guys, the time has come to stop buying your software from Swaggartsoft.

     
  • David Diskin posted at 8:13 am on Wed, Feb 8, 2012.

    David Diskin Posts: 184

    Rails said, ""But it doesn't mean I will devalue them or treat them any different."

    Unless they want to enjoy marriage?

     
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