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Posted: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 7:56 am, Wed Oct 10, 2012.

Rep. Jerry McNerney, D-Stockton, and Republican challenger Ricky Gill will participate in a debate at 6 p.m. Monday at the Long Theatre on the University of the Pacific campus, 1041 Dave Brubeck Way, Stockton.

Gill and McNerney are battling for the 9th Congressional District seat that represents Lodi, Galt, most of San Joaquin County and eastern Contra Costa County.

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57 comments:

  • Michael Thompson posted at 3:08 pm on Sun, Oct 14, 2012.

    winston Posts: 97

    Darrell,
    Property taxes fund a majority of school district budgets. Why do you think higher property values (on average) result in better schools in Lodi Unified versus Stockton Unified?
    Have you found a publication that is not a left wing newspaper like The Stockton Record?
    How has your weekend been filling out your membership to the John Birch society?

    Family farmer? LOL! Ricky Gill and full time job?-ROFLAD!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:43 am on Sat, Oct 13, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr. Thompson of McNerney’s campaign staff in San Francisco stated...Education industry? You are funny Darrell...

    Funny? I do not think it funny that you claim Bay area is getting less benefit from state income tax or the ludicrous notion that Bay area compensates San Joaquin county...that is just arrogant, misinformed and blatantly untrue...

    Come to think of it, that is par for McNerney's claims and experience as well... McNerney a CEO? Funny!

     
  • Michael Thompson posted at 9:06 am on Sat, Oct 13, 2012.

    winston Posts: 97

    Education industry? You are funny Darrell. If Ricky loses, maybe you can hire him to replace Fields. It will be exciting for Ricky to have his first job in a local "conservative farming" community.


    Family farmer? ROFL!


     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:36 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Thompson stated…I , as well as many other Bay Area residents, pay far more in state taxes than most people in the Valley. This money does not stay all in the Bay Area, but it funds projects and necessities throughout the state. This includes the San Joaquin Valley where tax shortfalls are made up by revenue from more well-off areas.

    Mr. Thompson, The above statement is wild fantasy that you might perceive but has no basis in reality.
    50% + all tax revenue is mandated to be applied toward education industry. Since there are many more students and teachers in the bay area, the money follows. In addition, construction for school buildings and maintenance is much higher in the bay thus requiring more tax revenue.
    Bay area also gets millions and millions of dollars to subsidize BART which is only in the bay area. Many state projects are located in San Francisco and other bay area cities… the list go on and on.

     
  • Jackson Scott posted at 7:13 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Jackson Scott Posts: 386

    Mr Thompson, I sure hope you have saved your anti-Ricky Gill rant so you can copy & paste it everytime you post it online. It's the same boring negative attacks that McNerdy uses on his tv ads.

    Seriously, Gill's family is rich. His parents are two successful doctors in Lodi and own a sizeable wine grape ranch. That what America is all about: get an education, work hard, succeed, and build your wealth for your family & retirement.

    Your question about (paraphrasing) "how come none of Gill's co-workers have donated?" As a grape grower his co-workers would be maybe a few ranch foremen and then a crew of contracted field workers. I'd bet that most of those field workers are not registered to vote, and that would be if they are even qualified. Those that are actually registered are most lilkely Dems. So that is the reason. Next time I suggest you use some common sense instead of talking out of your backside.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:36 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Thanks for responding with your normal confusion and distorted reality... it make my point so well.[thumbup]

    Its one of the reasons why I save your posts so I can correct your constant misunderstandings and inaccurate posts with what you type instead of what I say you say.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:30 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Good question Ms Bobin. I expect Mr Gill will vote based on the interests of San Joaquin county. Since his family and businesses are in this area, and since his entire family has vested interests here, and since local businesses are supporting his campaign, he is more likely to vote on conservative issues that reflect our local needs.

    McNerney on the other hand has no vested interests in this area and is pretending to be a local by buyng a temporary house in Stockton. He gets most of his money from out of the area unions and bay area investors.He is obligated to represent bay area interests and more likely to rubber stamp whatever pelosi slides under his pen.

     
  • Daniel Bryant posted at 5:21 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    D-Train Posts: 1

    Two aspects of Rick Gill

    1. Ricky calls himself a "farmer" while wearing Louislouis Vuitton shoes and fine Armani suits.

    2. Ricky has never had a full time job, but feels entilted to be a congressmen at the age of 25.... At 25 most kids are just paying their dues.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:18 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    If you are unsupportive of Bay Area business, people and values, can I ask for my money back?

    No, you are again mistaken... I simply want a representative from san Joaquin to represent San Joaquin. If Mr McNerney wishes to relocate back to the bay area so bay area people like yourself wishes to vote for him, wonderful...

    Your conclusions about me are bizarre... John Birch Society? Never met anyone who is a member.

    You can have all money back, I wouldn't care, but in turn, can I get my freedom back of bay area influence... no problem... and can we get our water back that bay area takes via east bay mud..

     
  • Michael Thompson posted at 2:41 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    winston Posts: 97

    1) If the Stockton Record is so liberal and does not represent mainstream views, then which publication or group does? Knowing you, it would probably be a group like the John Birch Society! The Record seems to have a good grasp of key concerns of the Valley-water, agriculture and veteran's services. In addition, if the newspaper was so liberal why did Ricky Gill speak to the editorial board seeking their endorsement? It would have been futile! Wasn't this the same newpaper that endorsed Pombo in 1994-2006?

    2) As for the district, San Joaquin County has changed over the years. People who work in the Bay Area have moved to towns such as Tracy, Manteca, Stockton and Modesto. The demographics of this district have changed dramatically since the last census.

    3) I am not calling you a religious wacko. I know you are not religious, but I am. I have been a church going Christian my whole life. Yes, we liberal Bay Area people go to church Darrell [smile]. You are misinformed and ignorant but not a wacko!!

    Your constant tearing down of the Bay Area is wearing on me, and it really shows how small minded you are. I am in one of the highest tax brackets (and not part of the 47% Mr Romney states!). I , as well as many other Bay Area residents, pay far more in state taxes than most people in the Valley. This money does not stay all in the Bay Area, but it funds projects and necessities throughout the state. This includes the San Joaquin Valley where tax shortfalls are made up by revenue from more well-off areas.

    If you are unsupportive of Bay Area business, people and values, can I ask for my money back? I am sure that I speak for other Bay Area residents as well as other liberal communities throughout California.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:20 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1507

    Darrell the 9th Congressional district is comprised of parts of San Joaquin County, East Contra Costa County, and southern Sacramento County. These are not all farming communities. Stockton, home of a major deep water inland port is included in this district as well as the confluence of the Sacramento and San Joaquin River. There are many important issues besides farming important to this districts and I doubt Ricky has the experience to tackle all these issues.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:06 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Does Paul Ryan live in a liberal community?

    I am not making a point that McNerney should not vote as Pelosi does. If McNerney represented the bay area, I would expect Pelosi and McNerney to vote as a team. However, McNerney is a bay area man whose interests are not that of a farming community that leans conservative.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:01 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    McNerney wraps himself in military issues yet after two years at West Point, rejected his military involvement and became a left wing liberal protester...you know, the ones from the Viet Nam time frame where these protesters spit at vets as they came home from war.

    Romney however, is a businessman and wraps himself in solutions to create jobs and make business work, focused on the economy. The only bisiness McNerney ran was a fake company that never had employees in which he claims to have been the CEO.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:54 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Barrow stated...There is nothing unusual about McNerney voting with Pelosi it is exactly what the people that elected him expect of him ..

    Actually, since McNerney rubber stamps 97% of whatever Nancy Pelosi wants so of course it is not unusual for McNerney to vote as Pelosi pleases. The people elected him to represent local interests, not Pelosi's bay area interests.

    However, that was not my main point. Nancy Pelosi is the figure head for far left wing liberalism. McNerney pretends to be somewhat conservative in his ads but votes liberal. Bay area interests and ours are many times not in line.McNerney as a far left liberal should not be our representative.

    McNerney is running in a conservative farming community. He has no farming interesting in this area. He has no friends, family in this area.

    Gill has family and a vested interest in agriculture and will vote for legislation that is in local interests, not bay area liberal interests.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:44 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1507

    Paul Ryan also voted with Boehner 93% of the time.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:00 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1507

    Darrell there are numerous websites where you can check voting records McNerney voted with his party 93% of the time in the 112th congress. This somewhere in the middle of the average of other representatives nothing unusual about that record. If your little friend Ricky gets elected can you honestly say you would like to see him vote with the democrats. There is nothing unusual about McNerney voting with Pelosi it is exactly what the people that elected him expect of him so maybe you should find a different argument the one your using is rather silly.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:54 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Take a look at The Stockton Record ..

    The Record ?(LOL)

    How absurd... The media is always liberal orientated... Big surprise that a paper would support a liberal[whistling][lol]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:51 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Thompson of the McNerney campaign stated... I live in the evil Bay Area in an area that used to be represented by McNerney.

    Now you are attempting to make me out as some sort of right wing religious wacko by inferring I think bay area people are evil... how bizarre...

    I was making a point that bay area has different interests than an agricultural community like San Joaquin. That does not make them bad people.

    It does however make McNerney inappropriate for this area.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:43 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Kind of like Willard Mitt Romney who protested IN FAVOR of the Vietnam war and then got a religious deferral and took off for France.

    You are joking with your "hysterical" conclusions, right?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:41 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    OOPS - that should read: He'll have LOTS of political capital to repay if he get elected.

    You are naive, aren't you, Mr. Baumbach?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:40 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    And just how do you think Ricky Gill is going to vote? Independently, and not with his party?

    He'll have LOTS

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:38 pm on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    These are not "conclusions," as you state, Mr. Baumbach. They are facts derived from the FACT that you cannot remember from one day to the next what you have previously stated.

    Example: You have stated that you were IN Thailand. 3 days later, you stated you would be LEAVING FOR Thailand. You have stated that you were back in the US, then subsequently stated you would be home in another month.

    Example: You have stated on several occasions that your wife worked for LUSD for 30 years, now it's 25. I never doubted that your wife was a teacher and never stated she was not. I do doubt that she really exists, however.

    Lies catch up - and you have the nerve to call ME hysterical?

    You mock my reference to The Daily Show, but you take Mr. Liebich's conspiracy theories as truth, just as you have taken the 2016 movie as truth because you LIKE what was presented in it.

    And unless you are a hermit, you would know that there is a large amount of bigotry in Lodi as witnessed by the lack of response to your LTE that BEGGED people to attest to the opposite. Reasons you are unaware perhaps: You are part of the problem and think that behavior is normal; OR you are not in a group that is subject to bigotry, and as such have closed your eyes to bigoted practices.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:10 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Two troubling aspects of Mr McNerney are... (one might wonder what else he is hiding.)

    1. he claims to have been a CEO in 2004 of a manufacturing wind turbine company. Yet, When searching the internet, there is no company ever associated with McNerney as a CEO. The Secretary of State of California shows no record of such a company run by Jerry McNerney. This company seems to be fictional as all other companies McNerney claims to have worked with are verifiable.

    2. McNerney went to West Point for two years. Instead of becoming an officer, he became a war dissenter and protester...

     
  • Michael Thompson posted at 10:33 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    winston Posts: 97

    Yes, I do. I live in the evil Bay Area in an area that used to be represented by McNerney. After the re-districting, I will be represented by the winner of the Pete Stark-Eric Swalwell contest.

    I also grew up in the Central Valley and graduated from Georgia Tech with a degree in Industrial Engineering. It was part of the evil Pelosi-McNerney agenda that increased federal aid so many students like me would not buried in a mountain of debt when they graduated. If you call that evil and one-sided, so be it.

    Take a look at The Stockton Record article (a San Joaquin County newspaper!). It feels that McNerney is better suited to represent the Central Valley than Ricky Gill. They reiterate many of the same points that I have stated before.

    Read the article Darrell!


    Family Farmer? ROFLAD!!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:12 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Thompson of McNerney's staff stated...Here is the article in case you missed it:


    Now that you finally admit you are a bay area man, with bay area interests and concerns, it goes a long way in understanding why you are so knowledgeable and supportive about a bay area politician that has no vested interests in San Joaquin county.

    Your boss votes Pelosi's way/liberal 97% of the time. His voting record obviously not in San Joaquin counties best interest. I think we need to review Pelosi's voting record to make clear how Mr McNerney will vote.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:54 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Say hi to Fields for me!!...???

    Have not seen or talked to him in many many years... what are you talking about?

     
  • Michael Thompson posted at 9:22 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    winston Posts: 97

    Here is the article in case you missed it:


    No doubt about McNerney… Seasoned congressman has immersed himself in S.J. County issues tWe would contrast his 25-year-old opponent, Ricky Gill, a bright, well-spoken man seeking his first elected post. Gill lacks even a scintilla of public experience, save his service as an appointed student representative on the state school board when he was in high school. Further, since he graduated from law school earlier this year, he lacks any demonstrated work experience, aside from his campaign claims to have "worked on his family farm" growing up.

    Gill says, "We need more statesmen in Congress," but even before being elected he has signed the infamous Grover Norquist anti-tax pledge that essentially removes negotiation from the bargaining table. He told The Record's editorial board he would stand by that pledge even if the nation went to war.

    This is not to suggest Gill isn't bright. He most assuredly is. Nor is he a flamethrower. But his level of naïveté and being born privileged at times makes him seem dismissive of just how tough some Valley residents have it.

    McNerney has had tough times. He has been laid off from a job. For that matter, he had actual jobs before launching his public service career.

    He's earned a doctorate, raised children (including a daughter who this year earned a doctorate). And since becoming a congressman for this area, he has immersed himself in the issues facing this area, especially water, agriculture and services to veterans.

    One area where we split with McNerney is in his support of the high-speed rail system. But even on this issue he makes reasoned argument that by being first in the nation to build a high-speed rail system this state can create the engineering and manufacturing expertise that the rest of the nation could adopt.

    McNerney should be sent back to Congress.


    Happy reading Darrell!


     
  • Michael Thompson posted at 9:02 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    winston Posts: 97

    Because ideas in that budget (deductions, mortgage relief, Medicaid farm subsidies,etc) affect people in his district. Ricky knows that, and he knows the budget is not good for his district. That is why he is running away from it faster than Usain Bolt in the 100m dash!


    As for McNerney being a carpetbagger, take it to The Stockton Record. The San Joaquin County newspaper that endorsed McNerney against Ricky Gill. Has the Record been taken over by Nancy Pelosi Bay Area liberals Darrell? Do you want me to send you a copy of the endorsement that describes the value he creates for San Joaquin County?

    I guess it is not people like me (who live in the Bay Area) who think that McNerney is the better candidate.

    Say hi to Fields for me!!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:41 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Thompson of the McNerney campaign staff stated... Any word Darrell on why Ricky won't talk about the Ryan budget..

    Focus Mr Thompson... this is about deciding who to vote for in San Joaquin county. We have a choice of a local representative in Mr Gill or a Bay area man who always votes as Pelosi demands of him.

    In addition, we are still waiting for McNerney to review his extreme liberal voting record. You cherry pick the very few votes that San Joaquin county appreciates then ignore the massive amounts of liberal Pelosi votes he rubber stamps. I have asked over 10 times and all we get is the sounds of silence...

    I am very curious why you as his representative do not address his record... It is obvious that you are embarrassed and ashamed to review it as San Joaquin county is not an extreme liberal area like Mr McNerney' or his Bay area friends and family.

    Can you start with his phoney CEO experience which is even today posted on his website.

     
  • Michael Thompson posted at 8:12 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    winston Posts: 97

    I guess Ricky should go and tutor you about federalism.


    You do not seem to have a grasp on rights that are given to the states versus the national government.

    Am I the only person who notices this?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:11 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach wrote: "Considering your history of hysterical responses...."

    This is statement is more telling of Mr. Baumbach's opinion of women, as opposed to his continual denial that he is a misogynist, that he "LOVES" women and respects them. Any woman who opposes his opinion is labeled "hysterical."

    Mr. Baumbach wrote: "He loves his country, he served our country well in the military and he supports policies that veterans find helpful…"

    Although McNerny attended West Point for two years, he left in protest of the Vietnam war. He did not serve in the active military, but one of his sons has - perhaps you should find out more information about McNerny other than your constant screams of "rubber-stamping Pelosi" and "owning a fake business."

    And "supports policies that veterans find helpful?"

    As one who has shunned military service, I find that characterization of veterans both insulting and patronizing of the men and women who are suffering the effects of their participation in combat and must battle daily to obtain the benefits for which they are qualified. Shame on you, Mr. Baumbach. "Helpful," indeed!

    Talk about "hysterical!" I think both these definitions apply to Mr. Baumbach:

    "uncontrollably emotional."
    "hilarious, uproarious, laughable, ludicrous."

     
  • Michael Thompson posted at 8:10 am on Fri, Oct 12, 2012.

    winston Posts: 97

    Yes, McNerney votes with Pelosi for pesky liberal ideas like Pell Grants that allow people from economically less well-off backgrounds to go to college without becoming buried in mountain of debt.

    He also supports such liberal positions as embryonic stem cell research which ALL leading medical journals have shown to be valuable in finding cures for such diseases as Parkinson's and Alzheimers. Ricky is silent on this as he has the support of the National Right to Life Committee. I bet if you ask his parents they would support stem cell research.

    Any word Darrell on why Ricky won't talk about the Ryan budget? The ideas in it are not good for his district as a whole! Ricky is as silent on this as Paul Ryan was when Joe Biden asked him if the mortgage deduction was going to eliminated for those earning under $100,000.

    I hope Ricky does not choke on the silver spoon in his mouth!

    Family farmer? ROFLAD!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:45 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    red herring? (lol)


    Votre for McNerney of you like his rubber stamp voting record for his boss Nancy Pelosi...

    or vote for Gill if you want to repeal Obama"not"Care.. Simple

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:41 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin posted… He has turned up the volume so loud on his "hate McNerny" machine

    I posted at 7:16 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012… I will not vote for McNerney but I could easily think of 3 reasons why someone should vote for him...
    He loves his country, he served our country well in the military and he supports policies that veterans find helpful…

    Ms Bobin then asks…Hysterics? Which hysterics would that be?

    Considering your history of hysterical responses it is reasonable to conclude that whatever led you to believe I hate McNerney is a result of hysterics, since my earlier post shows I do not hate McNerney at all. May I suggest you relax over a hot cup of sleepy time tea? It’s very calming.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 4:30 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach wrote: "Based on your hysterics, I bet you must have watched Sarah Palin rebroadcasts and Tina Fey all night long... "

    Hysterics? Which hysterics would that be?

    Desperation clouds your ability to "think."

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:58 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    McNerney's staff stated... Ricky Gill-W-2 and 1040?...ROFLATD


    [sleeping].. red herring...Yes!

    Vote for Mcnerney if you want left wing liberal legislation such as
    Obama"not" Care... For for Mr Gill if you wish to reject such legislation...

    It's really quite simple.

     
  • Michael Thompson posted at 2:52 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    winston Posts: 97

    Ricky Gill-W-2 and 1040?

    ROFLATD!


     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:23 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    McNerney... CEO? ( LOL)[lol]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:20 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    What makes you think that? Same as Jeff I'm guessing...[beam][thumbup]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:19 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...Wow, Mr. Baumbach must have had another viewing of "2016" today in order to get him all fired up...

    Thanks for the suggestion, but no, did not watch it again... However, its good to know that you perceive one watches a video or some sort of media to get all fired up.
    Based on your hysterics, I bet you must have watched Sarah Palin rebroadcasts and Tina Fey all night long... [lol]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:07 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Yes, I am confused Jeff, I was always under the impression that all politicians in California no matter if voting for Federal or State legislation voted to benefit California's interest.I also perceive that Federal legislation effects each state. Many states influence other states and thus influences Federal legislation.

    I do not get your point.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:37 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Wow, Mr. Baumbach must have had another viewing of "2016" today in order to get him all fired up with his insults for liberals. "Mermaids and whales?"

    He has turned up the volume so loud on his "hate McNerny" machine that he can't distinguish between state and federal legislation.

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:39 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 546

    Yes Mr. McNerney was the leading voice and vote within the state legislature that led to... wait... state... federal... Oh, Darrell is confused again.

     
  • Michael Thompson posted at 9:39 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    winston Posts: 97

    Family farmer? LOL!

    Small Businessowner? ROFL!


    The list can go on and on....


     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:05 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Josh stated...I have seen all of your posts telling me why I shouldn't support Ricky Gill but I have not seen one post about why I should support Jerry McNerney

    Great observation. I have posted more reasons to vote for McNerney that his own online staff, yet I do not think McNerney is qualified to be anything but a rubber stamp.. Amazing... Maybe they think McNerney's fake CEO position in his fake company he claims to have run disqualifies McNerney from saying anything good abut his positions... to me, it is inexplicable.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:59 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Humm..Let me contemplate what position one must be in to not find one reason to vote for Mr Gill...

    since Mc Nerney contributes to the following, one must think it a good thing...

    1. California is the leading state that is hostile to business and creates legislation that assumes people need to be protected from business as business will only take advantage of people, many times crippling the motivation and energy for business to grow.
    2. California has more gas shortages and higher prices of fuel than any other state. Because California includes more state fuel tax and has more expensive mandates that must meet compliance, and since California will not allow more oil refineries to be approved to flood the market to address the supply and demand issue, thus bringing down gas prices, obviously this person enjoys higher fuel costs.
    3. California's taxes are the highest in the nation yet we are suffering economically more than most. A vote for McNerney is a vote to keep taxes as high as possible. That is why someone who votes for McNerney will obviously vote for propositions 30and 38..
    4. California is the Titanic of our times. A big ship that will sink because of what it has evolved to under the leadership of McNerney type liberals Therefore, I am convinced all McNerney supporters have mermaids and whales as relatives.. Gill does not.

    The list can go on and onas to why someone would be sastisfied with business as usual... Obviously, there is not one reason to vote for Gill... gurgle gurgle gasp...

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:16 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Goethel stated...I *might* vote for Ricky if he could give me one good reason to...

    If Mr Goethel does not have one reason to vote for Mr Gill, I suggest he is extremely satisfied with California's economic plight and could care less about changing the direction our state is heading. I suggest that this man is facetious in his assertion that he would vote for Mr Gill under any circumstance. Only a Kool Aid drinking blind liberal would not have one reason to vote for Mr Gill.

    California has been dominated and controlled by the left since dinosaurs roamed the planet. All legislation that effects our economy originates from the democrats. Mr McNerney is a democrat. Mr Gill is not...If Mr Goethel is so biased that he cannot think of even one reason until Mr Gill suggests one, then clearly, he is far left of Pelosi.

    So obviously, Mr Gill could give you 100 reasons to vote for him and you would stare straight a head with a deer in the head light look, and still vote McNerney.

    I will not vote for McNerney but I could easily think of 3 reasons why someone should vote for him...
    He loves his country, he served our country well in the military and he supports policies that veterans find helpful . I also could see others voting for McNerney by people who like blind obedience, McNerney is their man as he rubber stamps everything Pelosi slides under his pen, he has many qualities liberals prefer...

     
  • Michael Thompson posted at 7:14 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    winston Posts: 97

    How about voting for the stimulus that brought many construction jobs to Stockton and LOWERED the unemployment rate in Stockton?

    What about support for re-training for veterans who fought for America abroad so that they can find suitable employment?

    How about advocating and getting a Veteran's Center built in San Joaquin County that created jobs?

    These are three reasons.

    Why won't Mr Gill talk about his signing of Grover Norquist's pledge? To reduce the deficit, you need to cut spending and increase revenue. This worked for Reagan, Bush I and Clinton. Also, this was the blueprint for the Simpson-Bowles Commission. With Ricky's signing of Norquist's pledge, he has taken a partisan step that promotes his self interest but not those of who he represents. Ricky's advocacy of tax cuts with nothing else will only result in higher deficits that will be passed on to future generations.

    Moreover, he brags about being a "Young Gun". He loves to promote the support of those like Congressman McCarthy, Cantor, etc. Why is is he so silent on the Ryan budget and health care plan? I reiterate that these ideas will not support a large number of people in his district!

    Ricky Gill-the man who has never held a full time job and is going to lead an economic turnaround! LOL!!

    Family Farmer? ROFL!!


     
  • Frederick Goethel posted at 6:37 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Frederick Goethel Posts: 50

    I *might* vote for Ricky if he could give me one good reason to. So far, out of all of the mailers I have received from him, I have yet to see a true position stated. They all bash his opponent endlessly, and it is easy to say you will bring jobs to the Valley, etc, but he has to not stated one solid position on anything. It's posible he does have solid ideas for the citizens of the Valley, but if he does, he better be stating them quickly before ballots aarrive.

     
  • Josh Morgan posted at 5:28 am on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    Josh Morgan Posts: 532

    Mr. Thompson and Nardenelli.......I have seen all of your posts telling me why I shouldn't support Ricky Gill but I have not seen one post about why I should support Jerry McNerney. I have voted for McNerney in the past but he has done absolutely nothing for this community. We are NOT better off. Please tell me why there should not be a change? I stopped voting for Pombo when he was no longer an effective representative. This is the same situation. Not once have you ever told us why we should continue to support McNerney! Get off the Gill bashing and tell me why I should continue to support McNerney.

     
  • Michael Thompson posted at 8:21 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    winston Posts: 97

    Ricky Gill the best politician that the GOP and Crossroads can buy.


    Wait, my company is facing a tremendous litigation loophole. GET ME RICKY GILL RIGHT NOW!!


    ROFLWMDHO!!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:34 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    After reading these posts by the McNerney support committee, it is easy to see that the debate is a waste of time. Why have a debate? Obviously, Mr Gill is far over his head and could not possible articulate positions or even know how to vote for legislation his position requires...

    I am absolutely convinced that such an accomplished politician ( McNerney) who is a pro, could not possibly lose the debate or the election...

    Imagine the shock and dismay at the debate if Mr Gill even is able to say good evening to the crowd... sort of like the shock that took lace when lowly incompetent Romney cleaned Obama's clock...butt...buttt... buttttt, how did that happen? Ignorance is bliss.

    Can you imagine how hated McNerney will be by liberals if he loses to an infant still in his crib ( according to liberals). Mr Gill actually has nothing to lose and everything to gain... this should be interesting.

     
  • Tom Nardinelli posted at 1:18 pm on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    Tom Nardinelli Posts: 8

    It would be hilarious and ironic if Ranjit "Ricky" Gill loses this election. This would be really funny after all the money his parents, all the reform platform bodies, and especially the 3 million super pac dollars that the national republican party dumped into his campaign. I hope this turns into another Meg Whitman/Carly Fiarina total
    waste of money. Maybe I am wrong and maybe this is all being funded by Ranjit's make believe small business he owns. I found it really interesting how someone can afford to purchase a house with no income, maybe mommy and daddy? And, how can anyone afford to do what he is doing with the huge debts he must have accumulated after attending Princeton University and Berkeley Law School. Oh that is right it was all paid for by the Frank H. Buck Scholarship, which just happens
    to give all recipients a "complete full ride". More importantly he was not to proud to
    take a full ride scholarship that was founded by a former "DEMOCRATIC" politician.
    Where are all of the hypocrisies? And his ads on TV. Outsourcing to Finland,
    seriously? What about all of the huge corporations in our country outsourcing to India? I wonder where he would take a stand as he is second generation from India.

     
  • Michael Thompson posted at 9:17 am on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    winston Posts: 97

    I am just waiting for RIcky to embellish over his exaggerated resume. I am sure he will take advantage of this during the debate. I am still waiting to hear how someone who has never held a full time job can call himself a small businessman. Moreover, I am waiting for him to explain how he can have sent $100,000 of his net worth (at least $1.3 million) when he has not held a full time job. He will have to finally say that it is because it is parents and their wealthy connections that are financing their campaign and making this a competitive race. If he were such a successful businessman (like Mitt Romney), wouldn't people that he has worked with donate money to his campaign?

    I am waiting for Ricky to explain how he will work across the aisle when every action he has taken shows that he will be partisan. First, he signed Grover Norquist's pledge. In order to cut deficits, you need revenue and spending cuts. If Ricky were to go against his pledge, his stay in Congress (if he wins) will be very short.

    Moreover, the donation of GOP PAC's and wealthy individuals (i.e. the Koch bros) who see them as a stamp on their agenda.

    Furthermore, his change of position on abortion. From someone who said it was not in his vernacular, to someone who supports the Hyde Amendment, it shows someone who will vote hand in hand with the GOP agenda and rise in the Party leadership.

    Also, Ricky brags about his support from House Republicans who have stumped for him. Why is he silent on the Ryan health care and budget plan? Weren't these the same people who named him a Young Gun? It is because the ideas in this budget are not good for the majority of the people in his district!

    In all seriousness, if Gill comes off as aggressive and McNerney as non-assertive (like the last presidential debate), this race could come a true toss up that Gill could win. He could be seen as the candidate with emotion and the fire in his belly.

    It is truly sad that he views being a Congressman as an entry level job. I guess being born into money does have its privileges.

    Ricky Gill-the boy born on third base who thinks he hit a triple!

    Family Farmer? LOL! Closed litigation loopholes? ROFL!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:18 am on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Of course Eric... I put myself in the shoes of a liberal Kool Aid drinker thinker and imagined what they would be thinking...

    and... of course you perceive I got one right... how predictable. Thank you for substantiating that my perception of liberal thinking is accurate.[wink]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 6:50 am on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1507

    Sounds about right. Darrell finally got one right.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:01 am on Wed, Oct 10, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Thank goodness Mr. McNerney will have the opportunity to expose Mr Gill for
    being the incompetent silly young boy that Ricki Gill is as depicted by McNerney's campaign and TV commercials. This will be the end of Mr Gill's campaign and hopes since such a candidate could not be able to compete in the world of substance and ideas in a live debate.

    No, I expect Mr McNerney to make obvious his superiority and qualifications to represent the people of San Joaquin County. Ricki Gill might do well while being introduced at this debate, but when each candidate actually attempts to articulate their positions, I'm sure Mr Gill will be embarrassed and humiliated. He is obviously out of his league and might as well not even show up.

    Once Mr McNerney has the mic, and says...I'm Mr McNerney, he will get a standing ovation, the debate will be declared over and the audience will leave the auditorium convinced McNerney convincingly won the debate.

     
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