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When unlicensed drivers get behind wheel, Lodi police take notice — and issue citations

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  • Raymond Cook posted at 8:55 am on Fri, Aug 12, 2011.

    Raymond Cook Posts: 125

    Hi William:

    Careful with what you say in these blogs or you just might aggravate the Demorats!

    A huge majority of the time, illegals are LIVING with Legal hispanic relatives, and while they have all the time in the world to apply for Citizenship Before and After they sneak into Lodi, they don't.

    I know a bus driver who told me he knows of a hispanic man who has been in Lodi for 20 years and still does not speak English.

    If you were born and raised in the U. S. you Know how to speak, read, and write English.
    Democrats WANT total amnesty for realistically 20 million illegals because that is 20 MILLION NEW Demorat voters, to push their agenda on America.

    Consider this:

    If 1 Million illegals (Who are disabled) are made Legal Citizens by any means Obama shoves down our throats, they are immediately entitled to Social Security Disability, Food Stamps and Free Medical!

    Do the math and that is almost $1 Billion a year to folks who didn't put a dime into Social Security!

    If LPD cooperated with ICE agents and turned over illegals who were arrested for all crimes, including "Driving without a valid drivers license" they eventually would be deported.

    That is except for those women who pop out baby after baby year after year in an attempt to NOT be deported due to Birth Right U.S. babies and illegal mother.

    The laws need to be changed to do away with ANCHOR BABY citizenship.

    But the government will not do it.

  • William Dawes posted at 7:18 pm on Thu, Aug 11, 2011.

    William Dawes Posts: 116

    Many of those East siders have no license because they can't get one legally. Illegal aliens drive w/o a license. Biggest problem, in Lodi, is that the progressive city govt keeps hiring police chiefs that refuse to do what they are supposed to do under Federal Law. When a police officer takes the car of a person, who they know to be illegal, and don't have a driver's license, they are aiding the illegal by letting them go.

    Aiding and abetting of illegals is a law for everyone not just businesses and individuals. It also includes government and law enforcement officials.

    If a person is illegal, you don't know who they are, and anyone that says they are not criminals and they just want to work, well you must be smarter than Einstein because you don't know who they are and you can't prove your statement.

    For years, the neighbors of "Whitey" never knew who he was, either. Sorry people aren't psychic.

  • Robert Chapman posted at 4:25 pm on Thu, Aug 11, 2011.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    It all boils down to OBEY the law or suffer the consequences, regardless of WHO you are or who you THINK you are. No excuses, no get out of jail free cards.

  • Raymond Cook posted at 4:01 pm on Thu, Aug 11, 2011.

    Raymond Cook Posts: 125

    Hi Joanne:

    In my case, the driver was under 21, no license, no insurance, no job.... I was told and he died.

    The last possible thought during those 8 months in the 4 hospitals was "Can I sue?"

    I was sent to Woodland General Hospital, then Travis Base AFB hospital, then Balboa Naval Hospital and finally to Oakland Naval Hospital.

    While you and others may want us to concede that "Setting up DUI/License" checkpoints is WRONG.... I would like to look at it this way:

    If I want to catch as many "Fish" as I can.... should I fish in a creek or a river?

    Cherokee Lane No one can DISPUTE, hauls in the most offenders and gets those drivers cars off the street before someone is killed or hurt as badly as I was.

    The time it took to hit me head on driving 22 miles on the wrong side of the freeway changed my life forever.

    If folks don't wanna WHINE about how expensive towing fees/storage fees are the solution is SIMPLE:

    Get your danged drivers license and required INSURANCE and you have nothing to fear.

    Otherwise, walk or take the bus!

  • David Raines posted at 3:37 pm on Thu, Aug 11, 2011.

    onramp Posts: 3

    Joanne, please try speaking from facts, not fiction. Checkpoints, by law, must be placed in areas of higher concentrations of DUI arrests and/or DUI crashes. If those coincide with areas of high unlicensed, that's just the way it is. Have you ever checked to see if they are set up anywhere else, or just assumed because soemone told you so or you just saw them in your neighborhood that they couldn't be in other neighborhoods? Plus, the announcements say "DUI/Drivers License Checkpoints" NOT "unlicensed driver checkpoints."

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 2:55 pm on Thu, Aug 11, 2011.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2318

    Joanne, best I could do was stick the owner of the car with the highest repair bill I could get for the damages done.

    As for the checkpoints. Do a google maps search on Lodi ca for bars, wine and alcohol. You will see a very large number set up where the checkpoints are done. As my son asks, would you prefer to let the drunks drive through town BEFORE getting to the check point? If park west was being hit by vandals, why would you want the cops to look for them by Salas Park? You go where the crime is happening.

    I do agree though that there should be a check point or two done on Turner after some wine events.

    An interesting investigative report done by LNS would be to look at effectiveness of checkpoints for the locations set up. That is, where is the best place to set up to catch DUI's in Lodi.

  • mizzo roberts posted at 1:57 pm on Thu, Aug 11, 2011.

    mizzo roberts Posts: 59

    Dear Joanne...where do you want the checkpoint setup..the middle of Sunwest ?? Get real..most of the problems happen on the East Side of Lodi !! That is where the LPD spends most of their time. A lot of Latino action occurs on the East Side !

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:42 pm on Thu, Aug 11, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I don't think there is anyone in this forum who is pro-drunk driving OR driving without a license. Several people have obviously missed Mr. Chaney's point that the check-points are INEQUITABLE, i.e., placed in areas that are more likely to catch drivers with either no license or the proper documentation needed to be on the road rather than drunks. Or rather have ignored his point for comedic effect.

    If anyone has noticed, the announcements in the LNS have changed from"DUI Checkpoint" to DUI and UNLICENSED DRIVER Checkpoint."

    I hope that both Mr. Paglia and Mr. Cook were able to sue those drivers in Civil Court. Those "bleeding hearts" were no doubt judges who let that person off too many times. Even with stricter DUI penalties, you still hear of some who have been convicted multiple times and are still on the road.

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 1:10 pm on Thu, Aug 11, 2011.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2318

    I'm with you Raymond. In 1993 I was hit by a drunk driver leaving a bar. Fortunately there were no injuries. The driver had no license and no insurance but 6 DUI's Because some bleeding heart decided it was ok for him to keep his car after so many repeated infractions and put my life, my fiancees life and every other driver on the road life at stake. Too bad there wasn't a DUI check point that night that could have gotten that deadly menace off the streets before he t-boned my van just missing the front seat where my soon to be wife was sleeping.

    Makes you wonder how many other laws some people are willing to over look, doesn't it?

  • Raymond Cook posted at 9:06 am on Thu, Aug 11, 2011.

    Raymond Cook Posts: 125

    Driving is a "Privilege" and it comes with the RESPONSIBILTY to learn how to drive safely, learn the California traffic laws so that other's either in vehicles or people in crosswalks are not endangered as well as obtaining the required LIABILITY insurance in the even a driver causes and accident with or without injuries.

    Those who refuse to obtain the required license, training and insurance have no right to be behind the wheel of a vehicle where they clearly pose a physical threat to all those around them.

    Anyone who disagrees with me should have their license taken away.

    We cannot CONDONE the behavior of unlicensed drivers.

    In 1974 I was hit head-on by a drunk driver going 80 on the wrong way of I-5 north of Woodland. I spent 8 months in the hospital and even now must wear a back support 24-7, Doug!

    You go ahead and preach how we need to "Look the other way" and let unlicensed drivers continue to drive and put others at risk.

    You will get no sympathy from me.



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