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Lodi Unified to take look at Equity Initiative's progress

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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:00 pm

The gap between white students and black and Hispanic students has narrowed in scores on the California Standards Test, California High School Exit Exam and enrollment in the Gifted and Talented Education program, according to a newly issued report by Lodi Unified.

However, according to the same report, the gap has widened in some areas, including performance in advanced-placement education.

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9 comments:

  • posted at 5:43 pm on Tue, May 20, 2008.

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    Edumacation, I believe the latin phrase is "post hoc, ergo propter hoc", which translates to "after this, therefore because of this". The phrase you used is a correct translation, but not the widely used one in my experience. Plus, you don't have to worry about being mistakenly censored. I apologize for my picking of nits, because the rest of your post is superb. Very well said. I would have nothing to add that wouldn't be a redundancy of your thoughts concerning this matter.

     
  • posted at 4:08 pm on Tue, May 20, 2008.

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    As a person who has 2 negroes married into my family/children they are angered by the crimes perpetrated by others described as negro/black etc. My relatives are professional and one earns over 6-7 million a year. He is rich and particulary disgusted by the behaviors of other negroes who do not want to work, study, or do the things that must be done to make the millions that he is making. He gives motivational speaches, but not here in the valley. The district could learn a simple lesson. Negroes could all be in six figure salaries if they just worked their fannies off.

     
  • posted at 1:30 pm on Tue, May 20, 2008.

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    Ugh! The percent by which the gap is purportedly closing in this article is completely meaningless without knowing the percentages proficiency of the groups. If whites are asymptotically approaching 100%, they can't go any higher so of course the other groups appear to be catching up. They really should be looking to see if there is a any change in the mean scale scores on these tests (assuming the tests don't have a ceiling effect on the scale scores). For those with some math literacy (excludes 90% of those in education), you might be able to discern the game being played by reading this web site. http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/gap.htmPay particular attention to Figure 5 and Figure 7.

     
  • posted at 4:22 am on Tue, May 20, 2008.

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    The biggest problem with LUSD is it has no administrators who are forward thinking individuals. They've been in admin for many years and still haven't had a new thought nor idea. Only when the pot boils over and it's noticed, is there any attention given to any particular problem. Douglas and Casanega have been there so long they've got cobwebs growing on them, yet they continue in these positions only to embarass themselves time after time with their lame excuses and finger pointing. It's time for LUSD to seriously consider getting that new super now and send Mr. Casanega into retirement. His lack of skills to perform the top job are very apparent and now just look like another giveaway by LUSD to an old timer who won't ruffle any feathers.

     
  • posted at 3:41 am on Tue, May 20, 2008.

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    The reason blacks are suspended at rates disproportionate to their numbers is because they are disproportionately found at the scene of crimes.

     
  • posted at 2:24 am on Tue, May 20, 2008.

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    According to this article, the LUSD equity initiative is attempting to fix issues that may not need fixing. The first idea that correlation proves causation is the logical fallacy ccum hoc ergo propter hoc. (I had to mis spell a word so it would not be filtered). "with this therefore because of this" . There are so many intervening variables that it is difficult to parse out factors (if any) that may be causative. The second idea concerns behavior which can be carefully defined. According to the article, "black students" are 9% of the student population but make up 26% of the suspensions. I don't know what this means. How is "black" defined? If this statistic were a measure of anything it would show that this group is three times more likely to be suspended than other groups. That is scary? Or is it accurate? Does this also measure how many times a "protected class" is NOT suspended because of their ethnicity? That would also affect the results. The Equity initiative attempts to identify problems that may not exist or can not be controlled by the behavior of teachers. Welcome to the nanny state. Teachers have limited contact with students with only 7 hours per day 5 days per week. What happens during the other 18 hours per day? Who else will try to help these youngsters? Using the same evaluation methods and results we can ask, why do Filipino students have the highest academic results? Did teachers somehow discriminate against everyone else? The argument is silly. Liberal educators can try to place the "guilt" for "unwanted social results" on the innocent. The Equity initiative can be measuring a self fulfulling objective, if it measures anything at all. In the case where there may be correlations that have a known cause, can anything be done to control student behavior the other 18 hours per day? These attempts at "proving" political theories can only fail. School districts in some larger metropolitan areas such as Los Angeles tried this 20 years ago. The result, a flight of many people who were not in protected classes from the city. An example is Los Angeles. Some call it white flight. What happened to the LAUSD? Academics went into a nose dive as many parents moved to Ventura County or 30 miles North to Santa Clarita. Mandatory busing didn't bring equity, it just helped the real estate business. Those with money moved out. Now the district is a shambles. That can happen here as well.

     
  • posted at 1:47 am on Tue, May 20, 2008.

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    oops create...sorry

     
  • posted at 1:46 am on Tue, May 20, 2008.

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    This gap is created by non-teacher factors, like lack of parenting, work ethic, individual responsibility, etc. This country survived due to rugged individualism, and these nanny state socialists took that away. They cerate them then expect everybody else to pay for it

     
  • posted at 1:41 am on Tue, May 20, 2008.

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    "Casanega said district staff will work to give educators actual teaching strategies that will improve their work with students of different backgrounds."We have always had students of different backgrounds, so what is he really saying?This speaks of pandering to students of other cultures, race, etc. with an "unofficial" IEP for those students. "Douglas said that, though he was concerned about all the areas where the district didn't make progress, he was especially concerned with the disproportionate number of black student suspensions."So will Douglas hold the students accountable for their actions? NOT! or infer that the teachers are racists and just don't know it because they lived in a racist government? yep, he is actually a facilitator for such a belief. http://usm.maine.edu/collab/pubdat/library_uploads/258SEED.pdfWell when the district has a pattern of taking in all the expelled kids from Stockton, for the ADA money, thats what you get. The people of Lodi should tell their education leaders not to absorb the surroundings areas expelled students thus wrecking the educational environment for all. The day there are more white "ghetto" kids, will be the day that there are more white student suspensions. There are a lot of Black students that never cause one problem. What he is not saying, is that, most of the referrals are for the same kids. When the same student is getting referrals from 2-6 teachers, you get a lot of referrals. And when the district refuses to expel, but sends the kid to another LUSD school, the referrals startup again. Like I said, it is all about the money for the district. If it was about the education of the student vis the school site, much of this would not be happening. That's what happens when Socialists run education, it turns to garbage.

     
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