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  • posted at 2:08 pm on Tue, Sep 23, 2008.


    MAC: PAY YOUR BILLS!!!!! No bad checks! No lies! Stand up and be a man...own up! BE HONEST!Simpfenderfer/Souza: No more "Holier than thou - I'm a Christian" garbage! Keep your religion to yourself. Prove it by your ACTIONS! Keep your nose clean and stop playing the Christian card. It just makes you look everything BUT Christian.Geez... shame on all of you for ruining something good for Lodi.

  • posted at 9:06 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.


    Rhodie ... I think you are right. I do believe Mac's character has been challenged over this, and it will continue to be so. The bottom line is that people are owed money, and it is the GrapeSox responsiblitity to work that out, which I know from talking to one businessman that they have been trying to do so. All I have said all along is for people to intentionally try to ruin another man's business is wrong, and I think most people will agree with that.

  • posted at 7:37 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.


    "But now who could blame them if they didn't pay up, especially under the circumstances."So it's okay to run up large bills and then leave with out paying them if things get hard? Sounds like you are the same kind of business person Mac is. Get what you can out of it then split before the last collection notice is filed. It sounds more like a legal form of fraud to hire people for a service without any money to pay them.How about this Joedirt, if Mac was able to come back next year where would his investers come from? Who would want to do business with a man who may not pay them? Who would ump the games if they know they may not get paid? How about the players, who would want to play for a guy who's business sense could shut the whole thing down midseason?

  • posted at 7:04 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.


    joedirt wrote "But now who could blame them if they didn't pay up, especially under the circumstances."Mac needs to pay his bills no matter what others "say" about him. This is where Mac's character is revealed. So far it doesn't look good for Mac.

  • posted at 6:37 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.


    The debate will rage on, but one thing is certain. The GrapeSox showed faith in Lodi, had a great team here, and I am sad to see them go. I know they were trying to pay their bills, and they continue to do so. But now who could blame them if they didn't pay up, especially under the circumstances.

  • posted at 5:41 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.


    After playing for the Grapesox this summer I have been keeping tabs on what has transpired since our season ended. I can tell you from my experience that no one can defend Stevie Mac. In my personal opinion i would have done the same things Mr. Souza did by deinvesting in the organization as soon as he found out Stevie's background.

  • posted at 5:10 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.


    That's actually spelled "Simpfenderfer".

  • posted at 5:08 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.


    joedirt: Simfederfer is NO saint (far far from it!), and I don't know Souza, but if people were treated honestly and not written bad checks or not paid at all this would not be news.

  • posted at 3:23 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.


    To claim Mac was set up for ruin is ridiculous. If he really cares about the mess he personally has made in Lodi, he'd not supposedly sell just one car, or liquidate an asset here or there, he'd exhaust every last resource at his disposal, personal and otherwise, to honor his word, that is if he hadn't lost any shred of integrity years ago.Lodi is not a place outsiders can blow into town and peddle their snake oil-like business tactics successfully. Mac is no victim, he's an opportunist who's brainstorm has failed and now runs away like a child from spilled milk, from the mess he created.

  • posted at 6:17 pm on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.


    When ya don't pay people they tend to get pissed off.

  • posted at 2:42 pm on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.


    Lodian .... one final thought about this GrapeSox mess .... I made a phone call, and while you defend Simfederfer and Souza's actions, what do you think about this ???? It is obvious what Souza's motives were -- like Mac said in the article, simple greed. But Simfenderfer called every employee and every person Mac did business with to complain he did not pay his bills and to "expose Mac" as he told the Lodi News awhile back ... isn't this the same guy who lost his job because he lost several thousands of investment dollars with Edward Jones ????? Everything he did hear was hypocritical and mean spirited ....... maybe people should expose him for what he really is ?????

  • posted at 2:30 pm on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.


    Lodian ..... the GrapeSox were good for this community, and everyone knows that including you. But your stake, obviously, is personal, because you are trying to justify someone intentionally going out of their way to ruin other people's lives .... there is no amount of argument, no amount of excuses, no amount of animosity on your end that can justify such conduct. Mac's problem, and excuse, was that his team ran out of money, which it did .... what is the exuse the other two will use to explain intentionally trying to ruin someone's life ?????

  • posted at 12:18 pm on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.


    joedirt: Mac's failed business is not simply the result of other people sharing Mac's past and present business practices. Mac's troubles come from him not paying his bills. In your opinion, would any of this have happened if the guy would have paid his bills?

  • posted at 10:54 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.


    Lodian ..... Mac has total responsiblity, and he has admitted so. I suspect he feels terrible he cannot pay his bills, and that those things were made public by others who are above "God". But what has happened to him, and his business, as a result of two men's intentional assault on him is, in my opinion, absolutely inexcusable. And nothing will change that because the damnage they have done is irreversable.

  • posted at 10:26 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.


    joedirt: So, what responsibility do you think Mac should have in all of this? Is he completely innocent?

  • posted at 10:25 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.


    joedirt: Nope, I disagree with you. The bottom line is "pay your bills" and don't write bad checks to people that have done work for you. If you can't afford it don't make the investment. Mac looks like he was in over his head and didn't know how to run his businesses well.

  • posted at 7:24 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.


    Lodian ...... whether the GrapeSox lost money or not, owe people or employees or not, the bottom line is that Souza and Simfenderfer intentionally tried to ruin this man's life and his business. So if they were so concerned about people being paid, maybe they wouldn't try to steal the guy's business in the process. They are disgusting, and so is any notion that small business, especially in these times, is tough. And lets not forget that Mac didn't even run his business, someone else did in Lodi. I commend him for not attack that guy and taking responsibility himself.

  • posted at 7:09 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.


    dogbark: You forgot to add, from this story, that "18 employees are still owed amounts totaling as much as $8,642, and vendors are owed as much as $37,000. (The News-Sentinel contacted numerous employees and vendors, and all confirmed that they are still owed money.)"Also, "Those figures don't include $8,000 that umpires are still owed, according to Sarjeet Singh, who assigned umps for GrapeSox home games."This is terrible. People are working to put food on the table for their family/children and to pay for the roof over their heads and they are NOT getting paid for the work they've already done! How would you like to get a bounced check and then get stiffed entirely? NOT okay.

  • posted at 3:50 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.


    all I know is what I read in the papers. Such as thousands of people losing their houses statewide. Meanwhile a former missionary/pastor pledges $125,000 for a sport team franchise. Macs may or may not be a be a con man, but he raised an interesting points about religion.

  • posted at 8:33 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.


    Oh, and since when is it a bad thing to know the truth about the past business practices of a businessman, especially when the same bad business practices seem to be taking place all over again? PAY YOUR BILLS and this wouldn't happen.

  • posted at 8:29 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.


    Timothy wrote "radone, my daddy always said that if a business man starts telling you what a Christian he is, do not turn your back on him and bend over. Run. Run as fast as you can away from him."I can agree with that, but when a businessman like Mac does not follow through on his word and pay the people that did work for him there isn't much left to trust in the guy. It's also been found out that Mac had these problems in the past and even spent time in the pokey for his crimes. Why does Mac think he doesn't deserve to be sued right now?

  • posted at 8:22 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.


    joedirt: Knowing Mac's past, why would anyone want to do business with him?

  • posted at 8:21 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.


    joedirt: Are you Mac?

  • posted at 2:46 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.


    radoneHere is what we should do !!!!!! Lets convince a local business to let us invest in them, then work behind the scenes to close them down, then start up our own business in the same line of work !!!!!! You're right, there was a con man at work here, but it wasn't with the GrapeSox.

  • posted at 1:47 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.


    radone, my daddy always said that if a business man starts telling you what a Christian he is, do not turn your back on him and bend over. Run. Run as fast as you can away from him. Sorry to see theGrapeSox go.

  • posted at 1:26 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.


    Like my gran-daddy used to say "once a con,always a con"...

  • posted at 11:22 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.


    LodianAll be told, manu small businesses in Lodi lose money, and several have gone out of business. You're right, the GrapeSox should have paid their bills, but if they ran out of money, so be it. I know of at least one occasion where Mac sold his car to help pay the team's bills. Maybe you should team up with Souza and Simfenderfer to go after other businesses, and other families ?????

  • posted at 9:36 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.


    joedirt: Who killed the team? It seems some told the truth about this man "Mac" and now he has to face the music and pay people what they are owed. If "Mac" was on the up and up and paid these people then none of this would have happened. It looks like his past criminal business practices are again showing up in his current way of doing business. Looks like he hasn't changed his business practices.

  • posted at 8:48 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.


    The Grapesox were good for this community, no doubt about it. Souza and Simfenderfer have been on a mission to kill this team since the last day of the season. Mr. Mac, what they did to you was wrong. To intentionally leak information to the newspaper for your own personal gain, ridiculous. To destroy a man's business, ridiculous. Guess there is a reason he's a "formor" pastor.

  • posted at 8:38 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.


    for all the CEO`s who used to be high on the financial chain and are now out of a job, I hope Bruno and Vinny do come after them with baseball bats, not to do serious damage, kneecaps will do.

  • posted at 4:57 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.


    This Mac sounds like a real stand up guy, I hope they all go after him. And for Brenda Stanfield, were/are you a CEO of the mortage banks or AIG? Borrowing on money you don't have great idea... Hopefully Bruno and Vinny don't come after you baseball bats?



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