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Lodi Unified School District teachers get final layoff notices; may not know outcome for months

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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:00 am | Updated: 5:55 am, Thu May 19, 2011.

Most pink-slipped teachers have a box already set aside that they are quietly filling in preparation of the last day of school.

At home, they worry about whether they’ll have health coverage come summer and whether they should be scouring the classified ads.

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  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:57 pm on Tue, May 17, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Doug... I was asking the union and the teachers to consider doing things differently. I also agree with you that other entities that are non union use seniority as well... as they are wrong as well. All I am asking for is merit... just like you told me the construction unions do. The teachers union however is completely different than all others... they represent the people who care for and educate our children. That is unique and special ... Do you not agree that our children should benefit from the best teachers. Why should the union get in the way.?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:50 pm on Tue, May 17, 2011.

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    mike stated...Young teachers = good; old teachers = bad. Talk about age discrimination.

    Darrell stated...Sometimes the older more experienced teachers have more skills and should be retained.. but some older teachers are simply hanging on because of increased pay scale, benefits, and retirement ...not because they are better teachers... ( 2 teachers personally told me that, I assumed there were more)

    Mike... I hope you were not talking about what I said...

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 8:31 pm on Tue, May 17, 2011.

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    Darrell, do you think the organized (union) employees are the only ones using the seniority system? What about the unorganized, non-union and scabs that use the snitch system, nepotism, relative, friend and those who work extra hours and overtime for nothing system? Aren't they the employees that normally keep their jobs in the unorganized sector of labor employees? So why not scrutinize the scab employers for their obvious labor law violations also? And why the hatred of the unions in general?

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:15 pm on Tue, May 17, 2011.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1403

    Young teachers = good; old teachers = bad. Talk about age discrimination.

    Study after study show that younger teachers, although more enthusiastic, have severe difficulty in doing an effective job, particularly when placed in schools with lower socio-economic demographics. Most of these teachers become outstanding (with time and persistance), but it is also one of the reasons many younger teachers leave the job before year 5.

    Is it a seniority thing? Yes. Normally schools in areas where the socio-economic strata is higher generally have the teachers with the greatest amount of experience, and those schools do fine, some are exemplary.
    So the data shows that: older experienced teachers = better test scores, schools

    As I said earlier, you guys who are getting pink slipped, stick with it. You'll end up very good teachers. One day, soon, you'll be the one writing this. You'll get through it. Keep positive, stay prepared. If you worked all of last year or even as low as 3/4 of the previous school year, if a position becomes available and you have the credential needed, the district is obligated to call you back.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:56 pm on Tue, May 17, 2011.

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    I agree with Mike, lay offs are horrible. I am sorry for anyone that faces this dilemma.
    It brings up a thought though... shouldn't students have the best teachers to teach them. Why is there seniority where merit has nothing to do with who gets fired or who gets to stay. The union must not care or have the best interest of the students in mind. In my view, what is best for the students are the best teachers available... not the oldest teachers who have seniority. Sometimes the older more experienced teachers have more skills and should be retained.. but some older teachers are simply hanging on because of increased pay scale, benefits, and retirement ...not because they are better teachers. Shouldn't the children's education be the biggest concern here even ahead of the valued older teachers? Maybe the older teachers who are near 65 should consider retiring now, while the pension is at its highest and make room for the quality younger teachers who contribute so much. Maybe the union can implement some type of merit system to evaluate teachers and get rid of the seniority system so the children can have the best teachers.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 2:19 pm on Tue, May 17, 2011.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1403

    You guys stay strong!!! Many of you will find yourselves working next year. It's a hell of a way to start a career, a hell of a way to be treated, it's a hell of a way to show respect, getting laid off year after year. Many of you will return and when you return, you'll be higher on the list, and then it will be someone else who gets the letter. Schools full of kids need teachers. Many of the veterans are retiring. There will be a spot for you, trust me, I've been in your shoes. And one day, you'll find yourself retired to. Keep it up. A bit of advice you're free to follow....as the new school year approaches, get ready like you are going to work. When the school year starts and find yourself without a position still, be prepared as if you do. Get your stuff together, lessons preparedd. When the call comes (and for most of you it will) you can step in ready to go.

     
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