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Lodi cardroom aims to be open 24 hours, provide credit and accept personal checks

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35 comments:

  • posted at 8:25 am on Mon, May 10, 2010.

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    Like I said, we don't need more of the same.

     
  • posted at 5:08 pm on Sun, May 9, 2010.

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    Lodian,You failed to mention that in this same article, Sgt Oden says "the number of calls at the card room doesn't come close the rest of the bars in Lodi". You also failed to mention, most of the police calls were not crime related. Even with the health calls and fender benders the card room receives less than three calls a month. Isn't credibility important to you?

     
  • posted at 2:13 pm on Sun, May 9, 2010.

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    ---"Police calls have increased at the cardroom to 31 from April 2009 to March 2010 when compared with nine from April 2008 to March 2009, said Lt. Chris Piombo."---I don't think we can afford more of the same.

     
  • posted at 7:07 am on Sun, May 9, 2010.

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    Lodian,It's a card room. Customers will be playing card games and enjoying the company of other card players---that's it. They will not be breaking into cars or houses or causing trouble.

     
  • posted at 5:37 pm on Sat, May 8, 2010.

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    So, what is going to go on at this business from 4am to 8am?

     
  • posted at 2:49 pm on Sat, May 8, 2010.

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    I believe all California bars must close by 2am and I sure Wine Country bar closes then.The 9% "city tax" seems excessive especially since area competitors are taxed at a lower rate.The council should give serious consideration to granting these reasonable requests.

     
  • posted at 6:51 am on Sat, May 8, 2010.

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    Wine Country Cardroom... you're pushin' your luck. IMO, allowing this cardroom/bar/gambling establishment to be open 24 hours is a bad idea. More bad than good comes out of a joint like this in the wee hours of the morning. And the owners ask, "...to reduce the 9 percent of revenue they contribute to the city in order to do more advertising and promotions." Really? LOL! I don't think so.

     
  • posted at 3:37 am on Thu, May 6, 2010.

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    To lodidian:Police calls have increased at the cardroom to 31 from April 2009 to March 2010 when compared with nine from April 2008 to March 2009, said Lt. Chris Piombo.Hmm, sounds like good business to me....right!We all know it will be approved tho!

     
  • posted at 3:35 am on Thu, May 6, 2010.

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    who really needs to be out gambling away thier money at 3am."I think I would have to have a gambling addiction to wake up, jump in a car drive down sleepy eyed and put $20 on lucky #7!Who needs to sleep? Besides, if someone has spent their rent payment, thinking they could "Beat the house" how could they sleep anyways?Allowing them to take out a "Cash Advance" on wages not yet earned, just destroys families finances that much sooner. If Gamblers can't cash their checks at 3AM.... gambling may be resisted.Besides, with a good night's sleep, they may realize they "Can't beat the house". If so, the card room would have folded because they couldn't clean out the players.Card rooms are not in business to LOSE MONEY!

     
  • posted at 3:29 am on Thu, May 6, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on wrote on May 4, 2010 10:08 PM:" Two bears, T&C just hits those meds first thing in the morning and is obsessed with preureon".Your EGO precedes your imagination even of (GOB's)! Anyone who disagrees with you is on meds? Is that the BEST you can come up with?

     
  • posted at 3:27 am on Thu, May 6, 2010.

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    I don't know much about drug activity anywhere in Lodi pre$$ur$on.... but for the oddest reason you seem to know about drug activity near downtown. Why is that?

     
  • posted at 3:20 am on Thu, May 6, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on wrote on May 4, 2010 10:08 PM:" Two bears, T&C just hits those meds first thing in the morning and is obsessed with preureon, his flaming idol, and the T&C Main Street adventures, busting all those bigtime nickel bag dope dealers. Maybe he should apply for the security position to guard the Blockbuster and Walmart bus shelters to hone his policing skills? What say you T&C?I say your fantasies are getting the best of you once more. Shouldn't you be down at the thrift store helping them price stuff?

     
  • posted at 3:18 am on Thu, May 6, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on wrote on May 4, 2010 5:34 PM:The only situation I don't like is the idea of extending any credit or check cashing privileges by the casino itself, or worse yet, some outside entity. That's asking for trouble, in my opinion.""Saints preserve us, I agree with pre$$ure$on!"

     
  • posted at 3:17 am on Thu, May 6, 2010.

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    Observer wrote on May 4, 2010 4:40 PM:" surfgliderdb....have you ever been to the card room? I've played there a couple of times and found it to be rather enjoyable. I absolutely agree with you Observer. Its always enjoyable going to a card room WITH money and leaving WITHOUT money! Good point.

     
  • posted at 3:15 am on Thu, May 6, 2010.

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    curveball wrote on May 4, 2010 4:01 PM:" t&c ,We get it already!"Do you have a MOUCE in your pocket curveball?If you do not wish to read any more posts, play it smart and stop going to this blog!Geez I hate being forced to give common sense ideas to bloggers!

     
  • posted at 2:16 pm on Wed, May 5, 2010.

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    I should mention, I have never been in the card room and I have no financial interest in it. I just think it should be allowed to operate on a level playing field with area competitors. I also think the city council should give serious consideration to approval of the proposals because it has proven to be a good business.

     
  • posted at 1:54 pm on Wed, May 5, 2010.

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    News flash for 1422--Not everyone lives on the same schedule.If a person works nights, swing, or graveyard, 4 am to 8 am is prime time for them.How about we let the customers and the business decide---not the city council.OK?

     
  • posted at 7:17 am on Wed, May 5, 2010.

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    If lodi wants to slow the number of police calls they get then they should just close all cardrooms at 2am just like bars. 10am to 2am and pleanty of time for someone to enjoy themselves in this way. who really needs to be out gambling away thier money at 3am. gas stations and places like walmart are they only places i need open 24 hrs a day...and wal-mart would just be in case my kid gets sick in the middle of the night so i can run to get some medicine. this would cut down on many police calls and traffic issues.

     
  • posted at 5:08 pm on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    Two bears, T&C just hits those meds first thing in the morning and is obsessed with preureon, his flaming idol, and the T&C Main Street adventures, busting all those bigtime nickel bag dope dealers. Maybe he should apply for the security position to guard the Blockbuster and Walmart bus shelters to hone his policing skills? What say you T&C?

     
  • posted at 3:03 pm on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    I'm glad to learn the card room is so successful. It sounds like a good business for the investors, employees, and for the City. It makes sense to allow them to remain open around the clock if their competitors in nearby areas are open around the clock. It also seems fair that the City charge this operation at the same rate nearby competitors are charged.I think these proposals are realistic and pose no downside to the city.Win Win.

     
  • posted at 2:59 pm on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    The restaurant is great lunch and dinner.

     
  • posted at 2:58 pm on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    To: T n C When you write this much shouldnt you start a column of your own. Your math is off too.

     
  • posted at 12:34 pm on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    Observer, I agree with you. I've played Pai Gow there many times and still do. The restaurant has great food and just as good a meal as the Rosewood, Wine & Roses, Woddbridge Feed&Fuel, Woodbridge Crossing, Woodbridge Inn and all at half the cost of the others. The service is great for the open type dining, with no loudmouths at the bar irritating the diners. The only situation I don't like is the idea of extending any credit or check cashing privileges by the casino itself, or worse yet, some outside entity. That's asking for trouble, in my opinion.

     
  • posted at 11:40 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    surfgliderdb....have you ever been to the card room? I've played there a couple of times and found it to be rather enjoyable. Thought the players were good people and there certainly were no problems. The restaurant is very good. Are there problems out there that you know of? I haven't read anything in the newspaper.

     
  • posted at 11:19 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    curveball... Who is "we"... the general readers of this article.... or who. I ask because it appears that Lodi officials do not " get it". It appears that few get it... as to the direction Lodi is going in.

     
  • posted at 11:01 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    t&c ,We get it already!

     
  • posted at 10:08 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    I went to Thunder Valley Casino once, I admit. I made a $100.00 "Donation"... if for no other reason to make up for what my ancesters did to native Americans. Lodi owes this CARDROOM (Nothing).

     
  • posted at 8:11 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    T & C... I never gamble. I have never wagered a bet where I could possibly lose money.. Thats why I could see myself making a wager on this one. I think it is 100% for sure a done deal. The city of Lodi will roll over and do what ever they ask. The only unknown is how soon will they vote yes...not if.

     
  • posted at 7:53 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    surfgliderdb wrote on May 4, 2010 11:59 AM:" So the city of Lodi has an economic incentive to premote gambling. How sad that there is a conflict of interest in making city policy that effects the quality of life in Lodi. "Conflict of Interest is so very true, but I will wager that the City of Lodi will "Happy" grant all of this Cardrooms requests... because the City needs $$$$ at any expense!

     
  • posted at 6:59 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    So the city of Lodi has an economic incentive to premote gambling. How sad that there is a conflict of interest in making city policy that effects the quality of life in Lodi.

     
  • posted at 6:36 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    Some of the surrounding cities like Manteca and Stockton require significantly lower contributions, Vanderwilt said.To you Cardroom Owners:Lodi did not ask you to start a gambling business here. (You) asked the City of Lodi!You are betting because the City Of Lodi gets 9% of revenue that (YOU) can now CHANGE all the rules and conditions, so (YOU) can make MORE MONEY!I wouldn't bet on that quite yet!If other cities charge less fee, why don't you go elsewhere? No one is stopping you.

     
  • posted at 6:33 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    There is a very good reason why the State of California has a gamblers anonymous Hotline:Northern California Hotline Number: (800) 287-8670http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/mtgdirCA.html Be happy with staying open 24 hours a day!Pay your 9% to the City of Lodi, and (Reduce the number of Police Responses to your business).You don't need to be able to take peoples (CHECKS) on wages NOT YET Earned, just so they can hand the money back to you at the tables.

     
  • posted at 6:28 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    The owners will also ask to reduce the 9 percent of revenue they contribute to the city in order to do more advertising and promotions.The City of Lodi better (NOT lower that 9%! That bribe is what got the Casino card rooms open in the first place.Advertising is the cost of doing business! "Winning at the tables" always is in the "Houses" favor. You are open (20 HOURS A DAY) Geez... be grateful for that!"Police calls have increased at the cardroom to 31 from April 2009 to March 2010 when compared with nine from April 2008 to March 2009, said Lt. Chris Piombo."Let me get this straight: (You have more police problems and now you want to be open longer? Great idea!"The cardroom wants to loan credit to its patrons through an outside company and be able to cash personal checks."We have people who want to come in and play and have fun, but don't want to have a bunch of money with them," Vanderwilt said."You have got to be kidding? Loan money to people who have gambling addictions on the spot?

     
  • posted at 6:22 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    The owners will also ask to reduce the 9 percent of revenue they contribute to the city in order to do more advertising and promotions.The City of Lodi better (NOT lower that 9%! That bribe is what got the Casino card rooms open in the first place.Advertising is the cost of doing business! "Winning at the tables" always is in the "Houses" favor. Quit whining!You are open (20 HOURS A DAY) Geez... be grateful for that!

     
  • posted at 6:19 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    This was always the aim of cardrooms, to be open 24 hours a day. The "Fleecing of America in part comes from Gambling addictions". People should be able to "Lose to the house" 24 hours a day, so heck... go for it. "It's only money from families who need Mortgage payments, car payments, food on the table.As if the "House" doesn't make enough profit as it is.Why be greedy?

     
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