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Posted: Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:00 pm

At least once a year, Carmen Madera has to spend an entire day traveling to Stockton to fill out application forms for social services. The seasonal worker and mother of three young girls has to miss work and take public transport to apply for aid.

"With kids and a lack of transportation, it's hard," Madera said through a translator. "I have to ask for days off and take the bus. It's a very difficult thing to do."

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61 comments:

  • posted at 6:49 pm on Sun, Aug 12, 2007.

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    to: read the Feedback Rules: Why do you want to stifle free speech? You seem to enjoy posting your comments, but want us to keep saying only what you enjoy? And if you don't feel these boards are fit for the reading of a 6th grader, then here's a thought... don't let your 6th grader read the boards! It's called parenting. Try it. Or do you want us to do THAT for you too?

     
  • posted at 6:45 pm on Sun, Aug 12, 2007.

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    nameless: Our good fortune just didn't happen by luck. I am doing well because I worked hard for it and planned for my future. My husband and I have planned well for emergencies or job loss etc. and have set up for our kids if we run into hard times. The difference is I have done the WORK. No one has given us anything. By the way, California is one of the most generous states in the US, so you need to get your information correct. That's why all the needy come here.

     
  • posted at 4:16 am on Tue, Aug 7, 2007.

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    Can someone pay my way? I'm tired! Life is so hard. :( Like the song sings.... " Come on and take a free ride!"

     
  • posted at 11:15 am on Mon, Aug 6, 2007.

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    Instead of looking for jobs that are already available, including lower skilled jobs, what In think they really want is a high benefit "pretend job" that we get to pay for. I hope we check the identification of these people who are on contract or employed. I wouldn't be surprised if a few won't try to sneak in under the radar. What ever happened to REAL birth certificates? or only one Social Security number per person?

     
  • posted at 2:56 am on Sun, Aug 5, 2007.

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    And, Francisca, those Spanish speaking workers that work for these "organizations" need to brush up on their English skills, too. Some cannot communicate with more than 4 letter words in English and are hard to understand. And, by the way, it's illegal to discriminate against a non-Hispanic job applicant. Why do all your employees have to be bi-lingual? That's against the law.

     
  • posted at 2:52 am on Sun, Aug 5, 2007.

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    They tipped their own hand when they said this "redevelopment" money could be spent on other projects also, like the sports arena, aquatic center and refurbishing the grape bowl. They want that aquatic center and sports complex in their spiffy gated "hoods" for themselves, then let them build the apartments and "old folks home" in their communitiy also. That way, the low income residents there would have public access to their newfound taxpayer gimme's.

     
  • posted at 8:10 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    There is a lot of "double dipping" and "gimme gimme" in the human services industry. Will you have some form of ID card? Will you share this information with the Lodi Police Department? Why? Why not?

     
  • posted at 8:09 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    What "other" qualifications do you have? What additional help are you planning to provide? Will you have workers who speak Urdu? Pashto? Hinko? Hindi? Arabic? Russian? Why not? Is this center ONLY for Spanish speakers? Why? Will you require some sort of identification for services or will this be a "sanctuary for illegals"? Why should I pay for it? What is so new or special about it that other government agencies are not already doing? How will you prevent "double dipping" by clients?

     
  • posted at 8:08 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    What did you do before you got this job? Have you ever visited the El Concilio two blocks down the street? Ask around you may find they are already doing these service plus more. And they already have parking, a building and offices.

     
  • posted at 7:52 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    Planning instead of living "day to day" will help you. Excuses in this country only make people upset. We all have had our own problems and we try to help people who are deserving. That means people have to stop whining and try to be independent. That is what REAL freedom in the U.S.A. is all about. Freedom to be yourself.

     
  • posted at 7:52 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    Oh yes! If you look in the classified section of todays paper you will find many jobs that require no or minimal skills. But you will have to have a valid Social Security card and/or a permit to work. It really is very easy, if you follow the law. If you didn't follow the law, ask yourself why I should work and pay even more taxes just for you? I know I am "not allowed" how you got here, or from whence you came, but I do wonder if you know how to plan?

     
  • posted at 7:48 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    At this location is a welfare center that will give you free food, diapers, clothing and many items FOR FREE. But you have to go there, they won't provide free delivery. They are located on Sacramento South of Lodi street. Also there are lots of classes taught in English or Spanish to teach you job skills- but you have to go to class. They do not do "home delivery" for adult classes.

     
  • posted at 7:46 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    You must have a legal right "to work" in this country, if you are not a citizen. Mordida is illegal here. Also, we have an almost free ($20 fee) ESL class for adults day or night and sometimes weekends to learn Engish. However, You have to "attend and try" - no excuses. Lets see, we have a location on Central that privides free food and government cheese. If you walk about one mile North, there are many other freebies, but you have to try or ask.

     
  • posted at 7:38 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    Please walk to Kettleman Lane between Central and Cherokee on the South side of the street. This is El Concilio. They offer FREE support and services in Spanish. Next, if you need more help, you can walk to another center in downtown Lodi. Its called the California State Employment Development Department. They will help you find a job - for FREE- if you are a US citizen with valid Social Security Number(this is required for All workers in the US).

     
  • posted at 7:00 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    The city really does not need you (GOB)anymore. Adults love freedom. And money nor fear will make us give up to connivers and schemers. Is the truth too harmful? There is no slang - no racism just a different opinion. Deal with it! Quit looking in the mirror, we don't care about your control issues.

     
  • posted at 6:58 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    During the last depression, President Roosevelt started the WPA to help get the money moving through the economy again. You and the GOB already have your money, and want more from us. Your grand plan is more "government "to provide us "services that we do not need. YOU REALLY WANT MORE FOR YOU. Well, if we say no, you will have to figure another way to make bucks. Why not give up your quest for more and retire? Give some one else a chance. Sit back and watch.

     
  • posted at 6:57 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    So the GOB has to try something else. Ahh --lets build government buildings- "they" have the money!. But the government is us. And we are not here to serve "just the GOB". The two big pieces of pork that are in the future are the Delta CC plans and the Redevelopment Pork plans.

     
  • posted at 6:55 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    We are being railroaded into debt - which is a legal requirement for Redevelopment agencies. We can't really discuss it and must DO REDEVELOPMENT TODAY. WHY?
    I have some easy to understand answers. The infrastructure of Lodi is based on Agriculture, and property. When building growth is controlled by either the market or regulation, new sources of income must be found. The "good ol boyz" won't build in this market - People don't have the money the GOB wants. Also the Lodi regulations limit growth!! THATS A GOOD THING.

     
  • posted at 6:54 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    We NEVER heard of the FACT that in the last 9 months, over 120 mortgage firms are now bankrupt! The Dow really didn't fall almost 1,000 points in two weeks? and we are NOT on the precipice of the greatest housing crash since the depression. Lets only talk only "nice nice talk" about giving away more money to "the good ol boyz" and their buddies.

     
  • posted at 6:53 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    How would YOU deal with corruption? I forgot - there is NO corruption? and -there is NO mosquito spraying tonight? and there are NO - hundreds of vacant Lodi houses sitting empty - NO Realtors overselling and NO - builders overbuilding.

     
  • posted at 6:22 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    We do not need this service.....

     
  • posted at 6:18 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    I know you hate people that have different points of view. It's the spirit of freedom in America that makes you decide what we can talk about. Most citizens of Lodi are not as stupid as you want. We know that we are getting a railroad job by the Mayor and his newly appointed neighbors, the CC and their handlers the "good ol boyz".

     
  • posted at 6:11 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    Transportation is available and Lodi is so small you can walk or bicycle anywhere with very little effort. What is your excuse now?
    Try being honest with yourself. This plan helps NO one but "the good ol boyz" and more bureaucrats looking for even more "victims" to help - for a fee - their new government jobs.

     
  • posted at 6:10 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    Does anyone in the CC have a brain? I know Susan Hitchcock does. Please WALK from the Boys and Girls club to the Concilio on Kettleman - its that close, and actually visit the place. Ask some real and honest questions and you will be amazed at the services available IN ANY LANGUAGE--for FREE. We don't have to build anything. And Susan - Please read Guzzardi's columnn. He teaches ESL courses for adults. Ask him how many people show up.

     
  • posted at 6:04 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    San Joaquin County and the state EDD job training office ALREADY in Lodi. This is very disgusting to duplicate their work. Adults should NOT buy into this phoney and transparent attempt at trying to get approval from people who are unaware that LODI has tons of government and social services and offices with empty waiting rooms for these "victims" who can't speak English or learn a job skills. Cry me a river.

     
  • posted at 6:02 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    This includes the CC and the "good ol boyz" as well. Tell me ONE advantage that this center will have that is ALREADY NOT duplicated today! Tell us? This is one more ploy to sucker voters for the Redevelopment Agency pork. I would be ashamed to admit I "have no job skills" with all of these hundreds of opportunities from El Concilio.

     
  • posted at 6:01 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    TThere is NO reason for any interested Lodi adult to "NOT HAVE JOB SKILLS" or need "ESL classes. We have many classes, including ESL classes that are FREE at night and during the day. FEW adults attend. These classes include job training in nursing care, computers and office operations. I see a bunch of people looking for excuses and hand-outs.

     
  • posted at 5:56 am on Sat, Aug 4, 2007.

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    ALL OF THESE SERVICES area available TODAY! All if these services and many more are available FOR FREE , not with more money for the developers,builders and "good ol boyz". If you walk on Kettleman two blocks south of Central avenue, you will find EL CONCILIO, which has all these features and many more...And we have already paid for it.

     
  • posted at 2:14 pm on Tue, Jul 31, 2007.

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    Ah ha! There's that redevelopment word again! Hansen says money from a redevelopment project can go towards the center. Sorry Larry but the King has already promised that money to many, many other projects.

     
  • posted at 2:10 pm on Tue, Jul 31, 2007.

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    Story quote- "Lodi is essentially donating the land for the center..." I am alarmed at this outright gift of public funds. Please explain this City Council!

     
  • posted at 1:08 pm on Tue, Jul 31, 2007.

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    This article was very well written. I'd like to see more coverage like this in the future - about real people and local culture. I'd also like to see the blogs eliminated. Almost every comment posted for this story is unfit for publishing. There are kids, 6th grade through 12th, that actually read this newspaper. If someone outside of the area reads this garbage (mean spirited posts) then it makes Lodi look backwards and trashy. Lodi Sentinel, it's time to empty the garbage and be an excellent regional newspaper, without the blogs pulling you down.

     
  • posted at 12:55 pm on Tue, Jul 31, 2007.

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    The 12 to 20 million illegals who just happen to come out of the "shadows" long enough to receive all the free prescription drugs, medical, dental, education, fire and police protection the mean spirited, hard working, tax paying, Califorians can provide. We call it "womb to tomb" coverage, no citizenship needed, none required.

     
  • posted at 12:47 am on Tue, Jul 31, 2007.

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    I find this article interesting, if she works seasonal, why does she have to miss work? Also, lets go back 80 years when there was no social services, and I bet she is here illegal, that what it sounds like. Mexico would be happy to take her back, she should go. Imagine all the medical services that are paid by tax payers. I am not trying to be mean, but why have kids if you cannot support them. This is why these types of kids join gangs, not enough parenting time.

     
  • posted at 5:57 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    Hansen only likes this because of campaign donors are involved.

     
  • posted at 4:36 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    What else would Mrs. Madera be doing on her one day a year? Working? She is the only one... and if she doesn't want to take her kids all the way to Stockton, which is not very far, then she should pay a babysitter. Yes, the state will pay for that too. Don't worry Mrs. Madera we will pay for everything. We have been for many years.

     
  • posted at 4:36 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    I suppose such a long bus ride to Stockton to get all her freebies cuts into watching her Spanish soap operas. Why doesn't she work full-time like I do, and I was born here.

     
  • posted at 4:13 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    It looks like she has a wedding band on her hand. Why isn't the father paying for these babies? Why does she have 3? I was brought up to not have more than I can take care of. I guess that's what a welfare mentality does for you.

     
  • posted at 3:42 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    OH my gosh!! ALL the way to stockton once a year?! they make it sound like they have to travel all the way to Mexico...oh wait i'm sure they can afford to do that a few times a year with MY tax money!

     
  • posted at 3:30 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    Lets see....no license, no car, no insurance, no real job. Let me guess, 3 "anchor" babies and she is illegal.
    When is the public going to
    wake up and when will the Lodi News Senile stop sucking up to illegals, crazed muslims, and lawless perverts of all stripes. I found 4 better stories to report on this weekend. Where were your bleeding heart reporters for the good stories.????

     
  • posted at 1:29 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    It must be a very scary experience to take young children to downtown Stockton on a bus. It is certainly a relentless struggle to keep a family safe and healthy when you have little or no money at all. I have only admiration for the brave and loving mother who is featured in this story. She most likely would have compassion toward the people who have thrown their negative comments at her in the postings, never thinking to write such words about any fellow human, especially a family just trying to survive.

     
  • posted at 12:40 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    Seriously, well said.

     
  • posted at 12:12 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    And there IS a bus that goes to Stockton, everyday, and many people ride it. Cut welfare, make them work

     
  • posted at 12:12 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    OK- I just came back from a local grocery store, after Lodi High let out... The majority of the clients were speaking:::::SPANISH! Lo siento mucho, pero estamos en los Estados Unidos Americanos! I speak fluent spanish, I have lived in other countries, I had to assimilate or falter (die). When are we ALL gonna stand up and require THEM to do the same.

    I am paying for the education, WIC, Welfare: when are they gonna clean my house, mow lawns, pick weeds. What DO I F'N GET?

     
  • posted at 12:10 pm on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    Money should go to seniors and Vets, not illegals. No, center!!! Poor are already poor. It is the middle class that is getting poorer, and when they are gone, you will have no one left to pay for social services. Where ever they came from , they have dual citizenship, so go back. No More Foreign Parasites.

     
  • posted at 11:52 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    I am 50 years old and trying to go back to school. I was born and raised in America. Can I get help ??? No ! Lodi doesn't give me anything but parking tickets and a lieing cop giving me tickets on Lower Sac saying I was speeding when I wasn't. Take her kids from her until she can afford them!

     
  • posted at 11:45 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    I do not feel sorry for her. she gets free money,free medical insurance, and food aid POOR HER. I work to support all welfair people and get nothing in return. This lady has a husband but if she claims him they get no aid. lying is to easy to do.

     
  • posted at 9:56 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    supply this woman and her kids with a free car so she doesnt have the expense an dth einconvienence of public transportation.

     
  • posted at 9:22 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    to T & C, just so you know I am currently out of state and have been for several months. But had I been in Lodi I certainly would not have voted for a resource center. I believe it would be a waste of tax payer dollars. I myself am by no means rich, and I work very hard; so I know what its like to be down.

     
  • posted at 8:59 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    I dont get this country. How could someone get U.S. social services, if they are not even a citizen and do not speak english. I mean she probably does not even pay taxes.

     
  • posted at 8:26 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    To "nameless." Oh, good grief! California is one of the most generous states in the nation. Don't give me that! In fact, we give more than we should. It's the tax payers who are getting poorer, period. Those who want the good life, should get it like the rest of us do, and did. Hard work, not begging, or living off the tax payers' money. Where are the fathers of those children, by the way?

     
  • posted at 7:59 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    Isn't she from the same "blighted" hood that Lodi city council wants to redevelop?

     
  • posted at 7:58 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    observor, you voted yes for it at the council meeting a few months back, didn't you? How do you say H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E?

     
  • posted at 6:30 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    I have a brilliant idea! IF YOU CANNOT FEED THEM, DON'T BREED THEM!!!!!

    Or maybe ask the establishment that discourages the use of contraception to aid these "followers".

     
  • posted at 6:21 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    Having to go to stockton once a year?????? Try going to work EVERY day to pay tour bills and buy grocery's what a pain!!!!

     
  • posted at 5:36 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    HERE WE GO AGAIN.

     
  • posted at 4:46 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    Dear Lodian, you obviously have never needed help. You should pray you never do. The state of california does not recognize it's poor. The greedy get richer and the poor get poorer. Seems to be the motto for california. You seem to be fortunate others are not.

     
  • posted at 4:02 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    Lodian you missed the step where the limo takes them instead of having to ride a bus.

     
  • posted at 3:47 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    Go read the most wanted list for san joaquin county sheriffs department.

     
  • posted at 3:03 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    Larry Hansen, why don't you pick up the Madera family and give them a lift to Stockton until the CPF center gets built, would be good for community relations.

     
  • posted at 2:59 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    She's complaining about having to travel to Stockton once a year. Give me a break. What about us tax payers giving her money. I understand some people need these services, but they should at least be trying to speak english. I say no Lodi center, and strickly regulate the length to six months of help.

     
  • posted at 2:29 am on Mon, Jul 30, 2007.

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    It should be a difficult thing to do to get social services. Next thing you know we will have people going directly to their homes and just giving them cash without them having to do anything.

     
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