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Lodi police arrest two teens in connection with Wednesday night shooting

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Posted: Friday, March 19, 2010 12:00 am

Two teenagers were arrested Thursday on suspicion of attempted murder after a gang-related shooting the night before that left a 22-year-old Lodi man hospitalized.

The male suspects, ages 16 and 17, did not know the victim. They apparently confronted and shot him simply because he was wearing a red belt, said Lodi Police Detective Tim Fritz.

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44 comments:

  • posted at 1:22 pm on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    Illegal’s of any nationality have absolutely no business being here.. Send the parasites back where they came from. If they come back put them on a chain gang and let themlive in tents and at the end of two years I do believe they just might want to go home…

     
  • posted at 5:00 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    steve, tell your boyfriend he can cash in his own bags of cans next time!

     
  • posted at 7:02 pm on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Jason J, your "special" education is showing, it's "keep hitting the bottle" with two T's.

     
  • posted at 5:21 pm on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    steve, when this health bill passes, I will be laughing and thinking of you! Pay up!! Until then, keep hiting the bottle!

     
  • posted at 5:17 pm on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Steve & Alacante are nothing but racist idiots.

     
  • posted at 4:45 pm on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    To > Gator..............exactly

     
  • posted at 4:31 pm on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Jason J, Gator and I will pay our taxes while you are out collecting aluminum cans to help pay yours, how much a pound are they allowing you now, bet you can pull in a cool $4.00 a day if you hustle.Don't worry if you come up short some months, I am sure you qualify for large amounts of free government cheese.

     
  • posted at 1:33 pm on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Gator, why not just tax you and steve more? Why not mention all the adults of children getting free care for having kids they cannot afford? Why not read my previous comments on this story and others? Give Condi' and Bush a kiss for FORCING bankruptcy reform (to favor creditors) on us using the same "special rules" that you all don't want Obama to use? You had your way for 8 years tearing the middle class apart financially..now it's time to pay up! Get your check book ready!

     
  • posted at 1:25 pm on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Well it’s going to be ok now, Obombo is in favor of allowing Illegal’s toStay, March 19, 2010 by the Associated Press.. Not only is it a slap in theface to people who follow the rules, it is how he got the Spanish vote forhis Medical fiasco. People like to blame Shrub for the financial mess, wellthat is only half right. Obombo has made it multiply like rabbits, in fact withthe revamped medical plan you just send your payments to China…ChangeYou can count on~~ Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>

     
  • posted at 11:28 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    steve, LMAO! Sounds like you need an AA meeting! I'm blunt on both sides of the asile. You, however, are condescending and lack independent judgement! Perhaps this is why Obama inherited your party's fiscal mess? Oh but wait, you'll deny that forever!

     
  • posted at 11:13 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    You seem to have an image problem, you do not to like the "wealthy", "good old boys", "this backward Anglo town", "cush (sic) retirement plans", "wine drinking", and our "lovely" downtown. If it wasn't for "wine drinking" and "wealthy winery owners", where would your fellow hardworking illegals aliens go for employment??

     
  • posted at 10:48 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Wow, steve, you seem to have an anger problem.

     
  • posted at 9:43 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on, the problem is a lot of people purposely give their ID can Social Security Card to someone who looks similar so they can work. Also, a lot of people in prison sell their SSA card and ID (before it expires) to illegals. Then you have people who get by some how stealing someones SSN.My little brother got his first Social Security Statement in the mail this week and it shows wages for 1992 and 1993 - He was only 6 in 1992!

     
  • posted at 9:38 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Cogito, you need to also look at all the white biker gangs and aryan brotherhood..When you use the term "illegals," um last time I checked European DNA is NOT native to this part of the world, nor did they ask permission to come here! While I share your anger with illegals that come here to cause trouble, at the end of the day we cannot expect the police to work majic. They can only do their best within the law. If it were up to me, I'd bend the law and put these kids in North Korean style hard labor and only allow a strict 2,000 calorie one meal diet a day!

     
  • posted at 9:37 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Cogito, avery simple and easy start would be for all employers, not only in Lodi, but the whole US to e-verify each and every employee, and those without proper visas or work documentation should be terminated immediately to make those jobs available to legal or documented workers. Can anyone tell me why cottage bakery and the cannery haven't steped up to the plate to do so? Or have they? And if not, why? These are the types of jobs I'm talking about. Even in the fields there are unemployed documented workers unemployed while labor contractors provide undocumented workers and this practice goes unchecked? Every worker on that employers property should be the responsibility of the farmer or grower, not the contractor. Don't those hard workers pay that labor contractor an hourly or daily stipend for procuring that job for them? The exploitation never ends no matter where you look. And you wonder why the youth and children of these workers join a gang? That's got a lot to do with their rebellion. When their parents have nothing, how do you expect their children to have a chance without either a choice of being beat up or joining a gang?

     
  • posted at 9:27 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Steve, if the truth hurts (which I can tell it does), perhaps you need to sit and have tea with the Bush family to "feel" more at home..just don't overdue the lines of cocaine!

     
  • posted at 9:24 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Inquisitor, the new excuse is to send them back to Stockton where they came from. Right, councilman Johnson, we know that's where they all came from. Under ex-police chief Hansen the gangs were allowed to grow nearly unchecked while he worked so hard and diligently setting up the cush retirement plan now shared by LPD, with LFD right with them. Thanks, chief for the memories.

     
  • posted at 9:17 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Lakers8, I have no problem with documented workers coming here from Mexico to work in the fields. What I have a problem with is the illegal, undocumented people coming here to cause trouble. We need a picture and a print of everyone who visits our country, no matter where they are from. We need to reinstate the Bracero program, and protect our borders more diligently from the criminals.

     
  • posted at 9:16 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    luvlodi, Lodi doesn't want to have negative articles like the gang problem in the newspaper because it may ruin their "beautiful" wine drinking and "lovely" downtown reputation. The paper is afraid to print many of these stories because the good old boys and the wealthy winery owners would pull all of their ads. The only reason the Sentinel survives now is because of advertising revenue and having little kids deliver the paper for next to nothing. Soon it won't even be safe for those delivery children to be out in the dark of the morning.

     
  • posted at 8:52 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    I wonder why a lot of these stories are not made public. I recently went to rally at Tokay High on a Friday night,when ppl starting leaving after the event took place,you see these nortenos and surenos going at it, some of them arrived in a car, got off and apparently stabbed another student who was at the rally!!!!! Why wasnt LPD there, watching and making sure things were under control.This was an evening rally!Where anyone can enter the gym!! Everyone was scared...there were families there, little children for goodness sake!

     
  • posted at 8:46 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Looks like we should boycott naked! or actually have our children run around naked!! Hey if thats going to keep them from being shot by these gangs, Im all for it! Im glad these losers got caught! Too bad names are not being released!So that we can know what family they come from and stay as far away from them! I hope they get locked for a veryyyy long time!

     
  • posted at 8:29 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Are you kidding me...shotting people over red hats and red belts. This isn't Project Runway you fools, get over it!!

     
  • posted at 8:01 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Not surprising to me. Lodi is #1 when it comes to "let's ignore it and it will go away."

     
  • posted at 7:39 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    ITs funny how mostly everyone here wants the INS here in lodi to send back the illegal's back to mexico.. wow whos going to pick those grapes for you not the whites..they wouldn last one day out there in the heat.. and the gangs, who created them?..the whites for descriminating minorities back in the day..so i got news for all the "gringos" deal wit it!!!!! And not every single illegal is here trying to cause trouble.. the vast majority is here trying to better themselves!!! they are hard works and thats what bothers everyone that we dont give up!!!!

     
  • posted at 7:35 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    WHAT THE HECK IS L.A. GANGS MAKING WAY TO LODI FOR .. ARE P.D. ALLOWED THEM TO SET UP SHOP HERE. COME ON LODI, LETS GET THESE GANGS CLEANED OUT, START TIPPING THEM OFF , YOU SHOULDNT GET SHOT JUST FOR A RED OR BLUE COLOR.. TIME TO FIX THIS MESS

     
  • posted at 7:03 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on: Unfortunately, I didn't hear about the incident until this morning because we were all in a meeting that started RIGHT when the brandishing happened. Police did arrest three people, but if you know anyone who would like to talk about it, have them contact me.For future reference, anyone can feel free to call me (369-7035) (or e-mail at layla@lodinews.com) if you think there's something I should know about. I try to listen to scanners and call police, but I'm not always in the office and always appreciate the help. Thanks.

     
  • posted at 6:45 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    That's Lodi for you. Well it's everywhere now days. Gangs, drugs and violence. We probably don't have enough officers to control the little immature druggies. And with the CHANGE we were promised, I am sure we will have less officers eventually due to no money and lay offs. Change is what most voted for....very sad.

     
  • posted at 6:09 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    And, Steve, what the heck have democrats got to do with this? The republicans are just as much to blame.

     
  • posted at 6:06 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Jason, I wasn't referring to the gang members, but those here illegally, who are many of their parents or relatives. The numbers are too many young people to be here illegally by themselves.

     
  • posted at 4:41 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    I love Mexicans. Vacation there almost every year. Love the music, Love the food, love (most) of the people. Samo on the culture. Hard workers adn smart. A Mexican can fix or do just about anything! Best friend is Mexican. BUT- what I don't like is the violence, the gangs. Of course, its not just Mexicans. But thinking more broadly, all ethnicities have their "gangs". Guess which one runs Wall Street, the "Federal" Reserve and the World Bank? How about the Olive Oil business? Perhaps we're ALL in some sort of "Gang", come to think of it. Perhaps Rush Limbaugh is leader of his "Gang"...Nancy Pelosi heads hers, etc...Is there really a difference? M.O. is similar, tactics a bit different.

     
  • posted at 4:21 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    I say publish the names of the kids picked up for gang activity. Nothing like embarassign the family in public to get either family involvement or running away in shame. Either way, problem solved.

     
  • posted at 4:12 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Jason J wrote, "steve,.. and what exactly was Titanic??? Not to mention Columbus in 1492..." Did I miss something? I'll take history for $100.

     
  • posted at 4:10 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Even if INS did a sweep it would not remove these kids. They are now Americans, born in America. They are not going to work the fields and those low paying farm industry that their parents and grandparents came from South America to do. I would prefer the Illegal Aliens vs the kids they had that are Americans now.I thought there was a Gang Task Force in Lodi. Why are they not present in areas that are known to house gangs. They need to be seen and heard every day. Hate to even say it but they to talk to everyone wearing blue or red in known gang areas to make their presences known

     
  • posted at 3:57 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    steve, ..And what exactly was Titanic?? Not to mention Columbus in 1492..

     
  • posted at 3:54 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on, sorry to break this to ya but rich folks will be around for years, all the liberal double talk about "spreading the wealth around" will go only so far. Let's see, forgot the "will do the work Americans won't do" mantra, it starts getting old when Democrats start pitting one class against another, (they've been doing it for years), save it for the next election cycle. Does anyone really believe that the poor lowly gang bangers are out looking for lawful employment, not easy to hold a job and gun at the same time.

     
  • posted at 3:45 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    gail1, my comment also apply to you!

     
  • posted at 3:37 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Life changing mistakes these idiots made! I hope they get charged as adults!jramagic, first off you need to learn history. You are not native to this part of the world! Think before you type! This doesn't mean everyone should flood north America. Though the Surenos are more likely to be undocumented, I dout their families will be deported (even though they should). If any of you took the time to read my origin on these two gangs in the first article, then perhaps you would know more.

     
  • posted at 3:27 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Layla, did you cover the incident yesterday afternoon at the carwash? Are there any details? The kids there were pretty upset.

     
  • posted at 3:25 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Steve, where else do you think the rich folk will get their cheap labor that lines their pockets?

     
  • posted at 3:18 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Not to worry, Obummer is now getting ready to pass the largest amnesty bill in our nations history. Very soon millions of illegal aliens will find a new legal home right here in the good old US of A, of course they will have to learn English and pay a fine, you believe that don't you???

     
  • posted at 2:41 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    gail1, perhaps the reason why the youth on the eastside are rebelling is because this little backward Anglo town still expects the Hispanics to "not cross the line". If you've got any guts, go see for yourself. The real problem is that it's spread as far as Lockefford and Church and moving westward every day. That's the new annex to eastside Lodi. I was at Pine & Stockton streets getting my car washed at the benefit wash for an eastside citizen and the youths were holding signs informing travelers of their car wash and I was wondering when I went there about 1:30PM, why there were so many police officers, including motorcycle officers, at and around Hale Park talking to people and taking notes. Apparently some young man approached the young people holding the signs and brandished a handgun at them. Looks like Lodi is in for a long, hot summer if your city council and good old boys don't work with the eastside and have some kind of a summit and designate a real eastside improvement committee with both Hispanic and Pakistani leaders to work with to finally make the eastside a part of Lodi.

     
  • posted at 2:25 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    There are many wonderful hispanics in this city. However, the gang banger/tagger culture is unfortunately a too significant part of the culture. Those who argue correctly that these are 2nd or 3rd generation may be correct, but ignore the fact that the bangers are most likely descendants of illegals. If we actually enforced our immigration policy, one or two generations ago, many of these gang-bangers wouldn't be here today. We need to realize that illegal or uncontrolled immigration allowing too many scumbags into this country hurts good hispanics too.

     
  • posted at 1:36 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    you know when I went to school in Lodi everyone had there place no one crossed the line. that was the 60's and 70's. now look the school are full of gang bangers. low life, we need to take Lodi back to where it use to be. clean up Lodi get rid of the people who don't belong there lets go back to putting people where they belong. or is the town going to let these gang bangers keep doing what they are doing? come take the town back...run out of town like we use to clean it up don't let them rent don't let them go to our schools. send them back to where they belong Mex. viet nam . go home we don't need you rotten kids here anymore.

     
  • posted at 1:34 am on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    Send in the INS and your gang problem will be solved. Of course, that won't happen these days. Besides, the INS is not empowered to enforce the "Law". That is, the the "Laws" that the taxpayers paid millions to its elected lawmakers to write. "Law" What a selectively applied joke. Ha Ha Ha....sob, sob.

     
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