Presbyterians vote to allow gays in clergy

The Twin Cities Area Presbytery in Minnesota cast the final vote needed to allow gay clergy. That vote took place last Tuesday.

The Presbyterian church joins four other denominations in allowing gay clergy — Episcopal Church USA, the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) and the United Church of Christ.

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