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Government-run health care is a bad idea
Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:16 AM PST
This letter is in response to Barbara Bagley's Oct. 24 letter regarding national health care.
She came from England in 1963, and I came in 1953.
As a girl growing up, I always responded favorably when people asked me about England's national health care. I have since changed my mind.
I am happy that Ms. Bagley's brother and daughter received good medical treatment in England. However, that is many times not the case. On our most recent trip to England, I visited my cousin. Her husband was upstairs in bed and had been suffering with gallstone pain for three months while waiting to be attended to. He could not attend the large gathering we had planned for our many relatives and their extended families, nor could he attend his 50th wedding anniversary party given by his daughter. We had been back in the U.S. for another month before he was admitted to the hospital — a four-month wait in pain.
Many countries that have government-run health care are having great financial difficulties and are trying to get out of the mess they find themselves in. They think we are crazy to consider this government plan that everyone else has tried and is now failing. The logic of seeing the failure and dissatisfaction of so many people in their health care — who end up coming here to try and save their lives — should be a strong consideration by our representatives. Our politicians don't seem to care what the people want. I've written to McNerney, and he wants the public option. I figured writing to Nancy Pelosi would be a waste of time and a stamp because, in my opinion, she lives in "La La Land."
Government has failed in most of the things it tries to run, so I feel this bill passing could ruin this country. Taking this on at this time with the national debt out of sight is ridiculous. Also, if you are on Medicare, I believe this bill will not be a good thing.
If you agree with me, vote out anyone who votes "yes" on this bill at the next election.
Valerie Halloran
Lockeford
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ElBombero wrote on Nov 26, 2009 7:49 AM:
rantraves wrote on Nov 26, 2009 6:36 AM:
sparky595 wrote on Nov 26, 2009 6:35 AM:
On many polls, obama is plummeting. An average of many of these polls is at realclearpoilitics.com. Today, he has dropped to 49.9 % approval. Not looking good for the chosen one. People are starting to figure this fraud out. If obamacare and cap & trade fail, his presidency will basically be devastated. It will seal his fate as the worst president in American history (and no, I haven't forgotten about Carter). His approval will be down to 43-46 % by the end of his first full year. Good luck in 2012, one termer. "
rantraves wrote on Nov 26, 2009 6:20 AM:
sparky595 wrote on Nov 26, 2009 6:19 AM:
'The Obama plan will still allow anyone who wants their private insurance the ability to have it.'
One of the biggest lies obama has said to date. He has continually said this despite numerous facts to the contrary.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/keep-your-insurance-not-everyone/
If there is a public option, and if your employer can save overhead by dumping it's employees into the option, they will. Hence, you will not keep your insurance whether you want to or not. This is just one example of the 'keep your insurance if you like it' LIE that obama keeps saying. "
ElBombero wrote on Nov 26, 2009 4:22 AM:
sparky595 wrote on Nov 25, 2009 6:09 PM:
'Several lobbyists for powerful health care interests, including insurers, drug companies and large employers, visited the White House complex, the records show...'
article:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091126/ap_on_bi_ge/us_white_house_health_meetings "
sparky595 wrote on Nov 24, 2009 6:01 PM:
That would be the logical and fiscally responsible thing to do. But then, this liberal congress and socialist president aren't into that. "
rantraves wrote on Nov 24, 2009 11:21 AM:
sparky595 wrote on Nov 24, 2009 10:20 AM:
rantraves wrote on Nov 24, 2009 9:42 AM:
Lodian wrote on Nov 24, 2009 9:28 AM:
sparky595 wrote on Nov 24, 2009 9:24 AM:
Brian wrote on Nov 24, 2009 8:03 AM:
" I think I asked 5 pretty good questions at 6:34 pm myself.
-They were Sparky. "
Brian wrote on Nov 24, 2009 8:01 AM:
on his jesters hat could be replaceed with 10 pound ones. Little did he know a few whacks on the head from those giant bells could cause him permanent brain damage. "
Brian wrote on Nov 24, 2009 7:56 AM:
What other intergatorries should I anticipate from you?
This oughta be good. "
Brian wrote on Nov 24, 2009 7:39 AM:
What goes on in your head?
-I tend to not assume what goes on in
Billy's head too much. It sends me off to a world where even Jim Morrison hasn't been to. "
Brian wrote on Nov 24, 2009 7:29 AM:
sparky595 wrote on Nov 23, 2009 2:29 PM:
Lodian wrote on Nov 23, 2009 12:31 PM:
rantraves wrote on Nov 23, 2009 12:02 PM:
SportsGuru wrote on Nov 23, 2009 11:10 AM:
Government run "Anything" is a bad idea .... "
Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 23, 2009 6:17 AM:
What goes on in your head? "
sparky595 wrote on Nov 22, 2009 6:34 PM:
Who is this scam supposed to really be helping? Think about it. Spread the wealth. Re-distribution of wealth. Social justice.
'From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.' -- Karl Marx
Welcome to Obama's United States of Amarxica. "
Brian wrote on Nov 22, 2009 2:40 PM:
" And furthermore, Brian, do you plan to use free taxpayer-funded, government health care again?
-I may have to. Obamacare in it's present state is not going to solve ay of the problems private care has with trying to keep costs down because government regulation has lowered their profit margin to about 2 percent.
This is yet another reason to be opposed to Obamcare that you are unwilling to acknowledge. And you'll keep on insisting that the tried true solution to economic growth is by letting the private sector take care of itself is all hogwash. "
rantraves wrote on Nov 22, 2009 2:19 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 22, 2009 12:22 PM:
rantraves wrote on Nov 22, 2009 12:05 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 22, 2009 11:30 AM:
Wise choice. "
Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 22, 2009 10:22 AM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 22, 2009 10:19 AM:
Brian, whether or not you are able to appreciate the fact, Jerome is the one saying his VA doctors are "incapable" (his word) of healing anyone. Will you take up your impish battle cry (squeak) of "ATTACK!" against your mentor Jerome? No? Is that because you will let him say anything without comment? Is it because you're afraid of him? Is it because you need to deflect everything away from his position? Is it because you don't know what you're talking about?
Back on topic, YOU, Brian - and your BFF Jerome - have, by your own admission, used free taxpayer-funded government administered socialized health care. Both of you. You both oppose it (remember, Jerome says the doctors are "incapable" of curing the sick").
Do you care to clarify YOUR conflicts and explain YOUR opposition to it? "
Brian wrote on Nov 22, 2009 8:57 AM:
He seems so desperate to advance a theory that other people think like him
just so he doesn't feel lonely.
And his mindset is amongst others
that are also sufficiently dysfunctional. "
Brian wrote on Nov 22, 2009 8:50 AM:
" Jerome, since you have extensive experience with socialized medicine at the VA, can you tell us how the healthcare services you receive are inferior to those you could easily obtain in the private sector? "
-This is a deliberate attack on Jerome and the VA. Every attempt is made by the VA to provide adequate healthcare
for veterans.
Voter deliberately avoids the overwhelning evidence that Obamacare is a disaster by continuing to attack those that are against it instead of AT LEAST engaging in a converstaion discussing why Obamacare isn't in the best interest of the people. "
rantraves wrote on Nov 22, 2009 7:10 AM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 21, 2009 5:31 PM:
Something in his experience has persuaded him that, instead of science, only disciples of Jesus have been "enabled" through heavenly means to heal the sick.
This development has created in him an animosity toward mere humans who, operating in some sort of earth-bound Ponzi scheme, have chosen to work without the use of actual magic. "
Billy Rubin wrote on Nov 21, 2009 12:05 PM:
Jerome, in fact, after an extensive LNS feature story, has now become so hostile he is now claiming medical science is a hoax and the only way to a cure is a free prayer to Jesus. "
sparky595 wrote on Nov 20, 2009 6:14 AM:
Article:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Obamacare-won_t-survive-coming-doctor-shortage-7886872-49202437.html
I could spend all day pulling up quotes and articles about the shortage of doctors to fit obamacare. That equates to waiting for doctor visits and treatments. In other words, rationing of healthcare. "
Leonard wrote on Nov 20, 2009 4:50 AM:
" Jerome, since you have extensive experience with socialized medicine at the VA, can you tell us how the healthcare services you receive are inferior to those you could easily obtain in the private sector? "
I have asked JRK this a dozen times and, of course, he has never offered a response other than trying to get my posts deleted. "
voter wrote on Nov 19, 2009 6:39 PM:
Brian wrote on Nov 19, 2009 5:47 PM:
Alan Goroll, a professor at Harvard Medical School said that "the primary lesson of health-care reform in Massachusetts is that you can't increase the number of insured unless you have a strong primary-care base in place to receive them. Without that foundation ... Massachusetts has ended up with higher costs and people going to emergency rooms when they can't find a doctor." "
Brian wrote on Nov 19, 2009 5:46 PM:
According to Bloomberg News, a 2009 survey by Merritt Hawkins and Associates, a recruiting and research firm in Irving, Texas, found that "the average waiting time to see a family-medicine doctor in Boston ... is 63 days, the most among the 15 cities" surveyed. By comparison, in Miami, it was only seven days.
The study noted that Boston's longer wait was "driven in part by the health-care reform initiative" passed in 2006 in Massachusetts upon which the Obama program is modeled. Bloomberg reported that "as many as half of doctors in the state have closed their practices to new patients, forcing many of the newly insured to turn to emergency rooms for care." "
Brian wrote on Nov 19, 2009 5:44 PM:
Dick morris's column couldn't have summed it up better. "
veritas wrote on Nov 19, 2009 2:47 PM:
jbhiker wrote on Nov 19, 2009 9:42 AM:
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Nov 19, 2009 8:36 AM:
This is simply naive thinking. The government is attempting to take over the entire industry; and they're not even being subtle about it. The government "option" will more than likely not be an option at all - it will be mandatory. And if you choose to ignore the governmental largesse, you risk heavy fines and possible imprisonment; just ask Speaker Pelosi.
Oh, there's a whole lot the government will be able to do regarding our healthcare - if we just sit blithely by and permit them to do it. "
jbhiker wrote on Nov 19, 2009 8:29 AM:
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Nov 19, 2009 7:53 AM:
Sure, women might be able to go outside the plan to get the test, but who really knows for sure. There are too many unknowns in both bills that are perilously close to being merged into one huge medical nightmare.
Men aren't immune either; the same kinds of recommendations are floating around regarding prostate testing. "
max stanfield wrote on Nov 19, 2009 7:46 AM:
Rhodie v2.0 wrote on Nov 19, 2009 7:22 AM:
I saw the same headline this morning and read the article you list. Nothing said that Mamograms wouldn't be available to younger women, but rather it sounds like the RECOMENATION has changed to 50 years old. Well, there are a lot of health recomendations out there. Smart people are proactive in their healthcare, not living by recomendations of suits in Washington. "
sparky595 wrote on Nov 19, 2009 6:42 AM:
"At least 40 percent of the lives saved by mammographic screening are of women aged 40-49."
Are they changing the guidelines to save lives, or money?
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE5AF5OS20091116 "
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