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Michael Moore's latest movie questions capitalism, Congress
Saturday, October 3, 2009 7:18 AM PDT
In July 2004, I incorrectly projected that John Kerry would be elected president by a "comfortable" margin over incumbent George W. Bush.
Since this is only one example of many inaccurate predictions that I've made during nearly a quarter of a century of column writing, I'm not in the least embarrassed.
One of the reasons I thought Kerry would win was that during the summer leading up to the November election, "Fahrenheit 9/11," Michael Moore's harshly analytical movie about Bush and the Iraq War, opened.
In June it premiered in theaters, and in September, Sony released the DVD version. Ticket and individual copy sales broke records.
I anticipated that the critical film would sway enough voters, especially the fence-sitters, from Bush to Kerry.
That, as we all now know, didn't happen. Even though his facts were on spot, Moore for various reasons turned out to be a poor messenger. Many saw him as at best a repulsive Hollywood liberal or, at worst, an American traitor.
I haven't seen the movie in five years. But I suspect that today, even Moore's most bitter detractors would acknowledge that his goal to raise awareness about the Iraq War's consequences, ham-fisted though it was, had merit.
Luckily for Moore, his most recent movie, "Capitalism: A Love Story," will likely be better received among a broader audience.
Who among us has not been damaged, some of us severely, by Moore's targets: Wall Street and the U.S. Congress that first enabled them and then bailed them out?
Before writing one more word, let me make clear that although I am disgusted by the banking industry that I once represented, I support capitalism — but, like Moore, disdain our inept Congress.
Moore tracks the United States' "love affair" with the capitalist system from the 1950s through the Ronald Reagan presidency before he aggressively attacks Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, the Congressional bailout and the greedy CEOs who lined their own pockets and, on the way out the door, got golden parachutes.
In one of the movie's most memorable scenes, Moore stands on the street with his ever-present megaphone to announce: "This is Michael Moore. I am here to make a citizens' arrest of the Board of Directors of AIG."
Along the way, Moore interviews fired workers staging a sit-in strike until they get their final paycheck, victims of legal loansharking (at the hands of unethical mortgage brokers), and families facing foreclosure — including one who videotaped the police knocking down their door to evict them.
Moore is most effective when he conducts one-on-one interviews with typical victims from the 95 percent of Americans affected by or vulnerable to financial crisis fallout.
For that, Moore visited his hometown of Flint, Mich.
Moore has included Flint in his movies since 1989's "Roger & Me," and this is where he's best. In "Roger & Me," Moore tried unsuccessfully to get an interview with the late General Motors CEO Roger Smith to question him about the impact on Flint of closing several auto plants, which cost 30,000 people their jobs and devastated the city.
Security personnel forcibly restrained Moore from approaching Smith, until he finally reaches him during the chairman's annual Christmas message. As Smith expounds on General Motors' Christmas generosity, laid off workers are being thrown out of their homes on Christmas Eve.
In both his first and latest movie, Moore displays a sincere, deep-seated anger at the political duplicity forced upon America's blue-collar workers by politicians, deceitful propaganda and the modern, misguided capitalist system that creates devastating consequences for society's most vulnerable.
Nothing will raise the ire of moviegoers more than Moore's exchange with Congressional Oversight Officer Elizabeth Warren, who is assigned the duty of evaluating how effectively taxpayer Troubled Asset Relief Plan (TARP) money is being used.
When Moore asks Warren, a Harvard University Law professor, what became of the hundreds of millions in bailout money that went to the large banking institutions, she answered: "I don't know!"
If Warren doesn't know, who can blame Americans for being fed up with Washington?
Joe Guzzardi asks that you do not send him nasty mail about Moore. Feel free to contact him on any other subject at guzzjoe@yahoo.com.
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Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Oct 16, 2009 1:13 PM:
Lodian wrote on Oct 16, 2009 1:08 PM:
rantraves wrote on Oct 15, 2009 5:44 PM:
Lodian wrote on Oct 15, 2009 1:20 PM:
Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Oct 15, 2009 11:16 AM:
rantraves wrote on Oct 15, 2009 12:01 AM:
rantraves wrote on Oct 14, 2009 11:58 PM:
Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Oct 14, 2009 9:36 PM:
Lodian wrote on Oct 14, 2009 1:54 PM:
rantraves wrote on Oct 14, 2009 7:45 AM:
Lodian wrote on Oct 13, 2009 3:21 PM:
rantraves wrote on Oct 13, 2009 2:00 PM:
Lodian wrote on Oct 12, 2009 9:56 PM:
lol! "
sparky595 wrote on Oct 12, 2009 8:20 PM:
"You can twist and turn all you like but no one believes you to be anything more than an instigator from the very first day you showed up here. You don't want to debate, discuss or converse..."
It is funny how in recent posts, I have said that you like to 'spin things around', you are an 'instigating pot stirrer', and you 'never have anything of substance to add to the debates here'. It's like you take my words and and say them right back at me as if you can't think of anything original yourself.
You have done this on many other occasions, too. I'm kind of thinking you are about one sandwich short of a picnic. "
Gator wrote on Oct 12, 2009 7:19 PM:
are the key to life in America. If al Qaeda get’s their hands on a nuke life in this country will change for ever….Pakistan has nukes, you put 2&2 together. "
Gator wrote on Oct 12, 2009 7:06 PM:
saved the day. The American Tax payer is paying to rebuild Iraq. The
Iraqis are not. They are selling their oil to Kuwait and that money is
going right into the Iraqi banks. The whole deal was the greatest Snow
Job in the History of the world. The sad fact is the almost 5000 kids
that died, the maimed and the 360,000 with traumatic brain injuries
that didn’t have to happen there…Sleep well on that RR. "
Lodian wrote on Oct 12, 2009 7:01 PM:
You bought the ticket. Enjoy the ride! lol! "
Lodian wrote on Oct 12, 2009 6:42 PM:
" Lodian, again, taking something out of context so you can spin it around to take on a different meaning. My full sentence was:
"Is it just me or does anyone else notice that lodian is always trying to spin the situation around to make her look like a victim and everyone else is to blame? "
All I do is mention how you 'spin the situation around' and right on cue, you do it again in your very next post. Amazing. "
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Poor sparkly. Your cries about being the victim here are pathetic. "
sparky595 wrote on Oct 12, 2009 4:49 PM:
sparky595 wrote on Oct 12, 2009 4:45 PM:
"Is it just me or does anyone else notice that lodian is always trying to spin the situation around to make her look like a victim and everyone else is to blame? "
All I do is mention how you 'spin the situation around' and right on cue, you do it again in your very next post. Amazing. "
Lodian wrote on Oct 12, 2009 3:55 PM:
"sparky is dumb"
sparkly wrote:
"How long did it take for your intellectual mind to string those 3 words together?"
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Some things are so crystal clear that only a few words are needed to convey a truth. :-) "
Lodian wrote on Oct 12, 2009 3:53 PM:
No honey... just you. LOL! "
sparky595 wrote on Oct 12, 2009 3:24 PM:
"Ah, sparkly, now you can apologize for calling me all kinds of names and telling me I made up this comment by what22 when I posted on the Glenn Beck blog. I would never make up something like this and it is something most of us know already... so no need to make up! LOL! Do you ever think before you post a comment? (rhetorical) "
You are the knuckle head that posted your comment on the wrong blog and you act like I am wrong because I didn't go thru every blog at LNS to verify something you posted from another blog. Do you realize how crazy you sound right now?
To quote you: "Do you ever think before you post a comment? (rhetorical)
Is it just me or does anyone else notice that lodian is always trying to spin the situation around to make her look like a victim and everyone else is to blame? "
Lodian wrote on Oct 12, 2009 12:50 PM:
" What22 wrote:
"sparky is dumb"
How long did it take for your intellectual mind to string those 3 words together?
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Some things are so crystal clear that only a few words are needed to convey a truth. :-) "
Lodian wrote on Oct 12, 2009 12:49 PM:
"sparky is dumb"
sparky595 wrote on Oct 12, 2009 7:09 AM:
"Lodian, why did you comment about what22's post on a different blog?"
Ah, sparkly, now you can apologize for calling me all kinds of names and telling me I made up this comment by what22 when I posted on the Glenn Beck blog. I would never make up something like this and it is something most of us know already... so no need to make up! LOL! Do you ever think before you post a comment? (rhetorical) "
sparky595 wrote on Oct 12, 2009 7:14 AM:
"sparky is dumb"
How long did it take for your intellectual mind to string those 3 words together? How long will it take for you to put a few more words together to actually tell me why you call me dumb? "
rantraves wrote on Oct 12, 2009 7:13 AM:
sparky595 wrote on Oct 12, 2009 7:09 AM:
what22 wrote on Oct 12, 2009 12:27 AM:
Lodian wrote on Oct 11, 2009 10:41 PM:
" galtguy: Did you just refer to yourself in the third person at 6:57AM?"
I know... that's weird. lol! "
Gator wrote on Oct 11, 2009 9:46 PM:
that actually pulled it off. Explain that with some intelligence and with
out your 2-bit insults. Write like you know what goes on in the world
for a change. "
dyan wrote on Oct 11, 2009 11:15 AM:
Gator wrote on Oct 11, 2009 10:46 AM:
Iraq Afghanistan would be pacified by now(With me so far) doubtful..
It will go down in history as George W Bush’s war and one of the biggest
Blunders of all times. So GG you tell me what you would have done??
Afghanistan enabled the training, the Saudi’s financed it and the Saudis
Pulled it off…We went after Sadam!! Tell me O master of intelligence
Just what would you have done?? "
galtguy wrote on Oct 11, 2009 7:17 AM:
galtguy wrote on Oct 11, 2009 7:14 AM:
YOUR contention was Bush was keeping or sending your friend to "The Stan". My contention is you are totally wrong. It's an all VOLUNTEER service. If he disagrees with the purpose or policy then DON'T JOIN or STAY. You don't get to pick the war, you just get to pick if you go and which uniform you'll wear (branch) when you get there. That's it. It's a very simple deal. Don't like the current politics, don't want to kill people, don't want to serve, THEN DON'T JOIN!
On another subject. The futility of Iraq? Nation building? PUHLEASE tell me you arn't one of those fools that thought this was about WMD's, Nation Building, Freedom, or building Democracy? This war is/was about one thing. The thing that all Americans clamored (sp?) for after 9/11. The one thing that would bring terrorism to it's knees.
PAYBACK. Americans wanted it. They got it. You wanted it. I wanted it. We ALL wanted it. "
Mainframe wrote on Oct 10, 2009 3:38 PM:
Gator wrote on Oct 10, 2009 1:56 PM:
Afghanistan and not invaded Iraq in an Illegal preemptive war our troops
Would have come home by now… I know it’s hard to comprehend but we
Have a habit of sticking our nose where it doesn’t belong and when it is
No longer profitable we cut and run. We were Nation Building in Vietnam
But it started by Truman giving the French Monetary and Military aid then
Dwight D Eisenhower was the one who wanted to Nation build.. Both wars
Are like brothers with different mothers. Senator Everett Dirksen said the
War will go on till it’s no longer profitable. Both wars have made a select
Few very rich on the backs of the American fighting man that is a sad fact.
Old men talk, young men die…. I know Leonard is wondering what is going on with Gator. Simple I thought something is wrong and I read a
Lot. I had a big change of heart. I reread Michael Yon and his reasoning
On the futility of Iraq and the waste of the finest Military in the world. "
galtguy wrote on Oct 10, 2009 6:57 AM:
OK I checked out deadpeasents.org.
And then... what's your point? The web site clearly states, "virtually impossible to know every company that invested in policies on employees’ lives. The following companies, however, are believed" Key word, "believed". This website offers absolutely no proof whatsoever. Uses phrases like, "Because a company’s purchase of insurance policies is not a public record". Can you say "DISCLAIMER"? This website is one disclaimer after another.
BTW- GG's employer has invested A LOT of money in GG. They should have an insurance policy! Why not I do. You know the more I think about it I'm kind of flattered. Hell I WANT to be covered now! As a matter of fact I'll be downright insulted if I'm not! I'm going to march into the bosses office right now and... "
sparky595 wrote on Oct 10, 2009 6:56 AM:
When a liberal has to point out spelling errors just to have something to say, it truly shows they have no response to the substance of the blog.
When I read a blog with spelling errors, I just read through it looking for the point to the statements. Some people don't have anything to contribute so they become volunteer english teachers instead. I am actually kind of embarrassed for them.
I bet the spelling bees are going to double check their own words now so they do not get caught up in their own 'sting'. "
galtguy wrote on Oct 10, 2009 6:44 AM:
You both are so pathetic. A spelling error? That's what you come at me with? Regardless of when Moore's movie started nevertheless greed was started a long time ago. Capitalism is founded on greed. You work, you earn. You work harder, smarter than the other guy you earn more.
No I never said I was the only one who puts his a.. on the line. Did I? But I'm not talking about walking across the street.
Gator- eh... "My friend is over there because he reenlisted and
Volunteered to go" So if he voluteered to go again how is that Bush' fault? I'm failing to make the connection. Maybe you should look up the word volunteer?
Here's another one for Gator, or anyone else for that matter to figure out what the heck Gator's trying to say. "In Vietnam. The country has become a tourist destination. the people seem
well oof enough, the Dominos didn’t fall and they are making money off
Us.. You tell me if it was worth 58,000+ American lives and for what" How is this connected to any conservative? "
rantraves wrote on Oct 9, 2009 8:03 PM:
Gator wrote on Oct 9, 2009 2:41 PM:
his oil by slant drilling under the Iraqi border. This time we or who ever
are pumping it full tilt into Kuwait. I guess one could say follow the money.
Does that make all the blood spilled worth it…I say Hell no…By the way
You get caught slant drilling in nTexas someone will shoot your sorry A**
as long as were on the waist of young men and women’s lives I was in Sams
club Monday. I saw a table full of Izod Shirts, sweaters and Pants all made
In Vietnam. The country has become a tourist destination. the people seem
well oof enough, the Dominos didn’t fall and they are making money off
Us.. You tell me if it was worth 58,000+ American lives and for what????? "
Cogito wrote on Oct 9, 2009 12:31 PM:
Gator wrote on Oct 9, 2009 12:12 PM:
Simple. Shrub had Afghanistan under control the Taliban were gone
and He gets an itch to invade Iraq. You can poo, poo it all you want
but it was for one reason only “OIL” . Shrub, Cheney and Paul Bremer
did every thing in their power to screw it up and lose it. Then along
comes General Petreaus and saves their A**. Now back in the Stan
the Taliban return and now control 60 -80% of the country and we’re
back to square one. My friend is over there because he reenlisted and
Volunteered to go. Even though he has a year and a half old daughter
and a new baby due in March. Had shrub stayed and rebuilt Afghanistan
the Taliban would be gone and the Afghans could go about living. As
For Rush his numbers are inflated and before he went on satellite
Howard Stern had bigger numbers. Rush is doing for the Republican
Party the same as Jessie Jackson did for the democrats in 68.… "
dyan wrote on Oct 9, 2009 11:55 AM:
When he got here, he got a job as a janitor. The US would not recognize his credentials. Castro is the guy you lefties think is a saint? You are uninformed to say the least. "
election year wrote on Oct 9, 2009 10:44 AM:
Have no idea what you are talking about with regard to a "woodshed." Are you proposing that I am deserving of a beating (figurative or otherwise) for having a difference of opinion? You should join the esteemed Congresswoman from Minnesota who seems to have a propensity for violence and random, ill-informed thoughts, too. "
rantraves wrote on Oct 9, 2009 8:38 AM:
wtf wrote on Oct 9, 2009 8:21 AM:
election year wrote on Oct 9, 2009 12:14 AM:
Lodian wrote on Oct 9, 2009 12:14 AM:
election year wrote on Oct 8, 2009 11:54 PM:
election year wrote on Oct 8, 2009 11:46 PM:
Moore's story does not go back to the 19th century, so those comments are totally irrelevant. He begins with the post-WWII era of prosperity and attempts to illustrate how and why the American people were betrayed by the leaders they thought they could trust to continue leading with integrity.
Dyan: Since you have not seen the movie, you are particularly unqualified to comment. Moore at no time advocates Communism or Socialism. In all of your postings you have the extreme ability to find a Communist or Socialist behind every bush. And to expect anyone to believe that Sweden has a tax rate of 102% is absurd. I don't know where you found that information, but if it were true, everyone in that country would be penniless. No one would work.
You are an extremely divisive person who continually talks about how "libs" are ruining the country. Give it a break! "
Lodian wrote on Oct 8, 2009 11:44 PM:
Okay, well, I gave you a chance to engage in discussion or debate here, but you chose to respond with your flip condescending remarks. Does that make you feel superior? It's obvious you don't have a clue because you didn't wait long before going for the insults. Ya, like you're the only one that puts their ass on the line at their job. Get off your high horse little man. You may be out of a job and without healthcare tomorrow. I guess "hard working" and "humble" isn't in your right wingnut dictionary. "
galtguy wrote on Oct 8, 2009 8:08 PM:
I'm failing to see the connection btw Bush and your friend. ??? Your friend was sent there and/or is being kept there by the current admin. Further in case you haven't heard... huh it's an ALL VOLUNTEER service now. If you or your friend had a problem with killing people or breaking things (the only two things the military is good at) then why did they join?
Limbaugh's show is and has been the #1 radio show in the History of Radio. Period. End of story. To say he's been successful is a huge understatement. And guess what? He did it the old fashioned way, he earned it. No one handed him anything.
Lodian-
I was being sarcastic with the "grace" comment. I'm very grateful for my career, but I worked hard for my success. And continue to put my ass on the line everyday earning those Health Benefits. EARNING those Benefits. Look up the definition of the word earn. Or maybe it's not in the liberal version of the dictionary? "
dyan wrote on Oct 8, 2009 7:45 PM:
Lodian wrote on Oct 8, 2009 4:46 PM:
galtguy: What is my way? And what will be worthless? "
Lodian wrote on Oct 8, 2009 4:41 PM:
Gator wrote on Oct 8, 2009 1:28 PM:
except slinging the Bull. You bother to check out what the real true Conservatives have said, truth hurts doesn’t it. it’s there in bold print. Yes an
Independent there is no white knight in the Republican Party to ride in and
save the day. The religious right whacko’s have put a pox on the party. They
need to get back to the days when they gave a damn about America and the
people in it not just lining their pockets off the backs of the working people.
and we can thank Shrub for a war we didn’t need, shouldn’t have fought and let it take away from Afghanistan where we should have put all our
Resources. We could have rebuilt that country by now instead we have to start all over again, thanks GWB….By the way a friend of mine was in the middle of that fire fight that made the news this week, you know GG where 8 were killed…Thanks again GWB… "
galtguy wrote on Oct 8, 2009 12:32 PM:
Yes, of coarse I have Health Insurance. I've lived an honest life, making the right decisions and working hard. My employer has seen fit to reward my efforts by covering me with a great plan of which I'm grateful for. In return I grace the company with my continued presence.
I would suggest to those without to get an education, get a skill, work hard and keep your nose clean. Then with these skills offer yourself to an employer who offers a plan. Tada.
Or we could do it your way, that is basically giving it away and thus making it worthless. "
galtguy wrote on Oct 8, 2009 12:23 PM:
Just to set the record straight concerning Limbaugh. Prior to his radio show he held many different types of jobs. From fast food to the Marketing Dept. of the KC Royals (MLB). He has definately worked a FEW days in his life.
Of coarse it's unlike you to talk without knowing what the hell you're talking about is it? Nah.
An independent? What a f...ing joke you are. Either you're part of the problem, part of the solution, or just part of the landscape. You and the rest of the Perotistas one would assume are part of that last group of impotent fence sitters. "
Gator wrote on Oct 8, 2009 11:36 AM:
a headless horseman. Conservatives of to day are a far cry from Reagan and
Goldwater. As John Dean said, quote, “ Authoritarian conservatives are, as a researcher told me, "enemies of freedom, antidemocratic, anti equality, highly prejudiced, mean-spirited, power hungry, Machiavellian and amoral."
Barry Goldwaters view. Direct quote “Goldwater was also mystified (when not miffed) by the direction of today's professed conservatives - their growing incivility, pugnacious attitudes, and arrogant and antagonistic style, along with a narrow outlook intolerant of those who challenge their thinking. He worried that the Republican Party had sold its soul to Christian fundamentalists, whose divisive social values would polarize the nation.”
No not a liberal never have been, never will be…. If BHO only is in for one
Term I believe an Independent will be elected the Republican party as it stands now is DOA…. "
rantraves wrote on Oct 8, 2009 10:26 AM:
dyan wrote on Oct 8, 2009 9:10 AM:
Gator wrote on Oct 8, 2009 9:01 AM:
of the Conservatives, you know the drug using, Fat womanizer who never worked a day in his life Oxy Limbaugh. Tell me Mrs. S. "
Mrs. S. wrote on Oct 7, 2009 11:42 PM:
Mrs. S. wrote on Oct 7, 2009 11:34 PM:
Sorry I confuse you. I was talking about Michael Moore's ideas on capitalism, and what I believe to be Michael Moore's pattern of hypocrisy. I used obesity as an example of a way I thought he'd next contradict himself in one of his films.
Who knows what his next project will be, though?
In any case, I think his capitalism movie will flop. "
Mainframe wrote on Oct 7, 2009 10:26 PM:
" Went to see Michael Moore's movie yesterday and I have to add a comment - Guzzardi implies that Moore is anti-Capitalism, but my impression of his message is that he longs for the benevolent capitalism of the past "
I think I'll have to go see the movie. "
Mainframe wrote on Oct 7, 2009 10:25 PM:
Mrs. S. wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:06 PM:
Not that
I agree with soda lobbiests, necessarily, but government telling people to stay thin will work no better than the government telling people not to drink, smoke, or anything else. Again, not that I disagree that alcohol and tobacco are problems to society. "
Mrs. S. wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:01 PM:
That's where conservatives and libertarians differ from them. There are all sorts of sugar taxes, soda taxes and other taxes in the pipeline. Haven't you heard? Oh, and they might even try to resurrect the ill-fated and confusing Snack Tax of some years ago in this state. "
Lodian wrote on Oct 7, 2009 8:35 PM:
Gator wrote on Oct 7, 2009 8:21 PM:
you thought the liberals would want it here. The clear thinking of a 25
Watt bulb in a 100 watt world.. rant raves an other 25 watt thinker…
Afghanistan would have been pacified by now if Bush hadn’t gone off
half cocked into Iraq. The war that should have never been waged. We
will pay a price if we lose Afghanistan. Factoid for the dim.. Pakistan
has Nukes the Taliban are just 60 miles from Islamabad Pakistanis Capital
Nukes, al qaida equal a nasty surprise in the US. Could be in a container
Ship in San Francisco. You think that might toast Lodi never know do ya.
By the way you know what’s going on in the local Mosque ??? Sleep well
Grin… "
Mrs. S. wrote on Oct 7, 2009 7:24 PM:
I did say I would see the film if I could see it for free. The movie is about capitalism from a negative perspective. Therefore, I'm helping Michael stay true to his art by not enriching him or the capitalists and capitalist system which financed him.
And many left of center people are concerned lately with America's obesity problem. I just pointed out that if Michael were to do so, it would be quite ironic. "
Lodian wrote on Oct 7, 2009 1:36 PM:
rantraves wrote on Oct 7, 2009 9:16 AM:
rantraves wrote on Oct 7, 2009 8:36 AM:
Lodian wrote on Oct 6, 2009 9:30 PM:
danielh wrote on Oct 6, 2009 8:59 PM:
Bowling for Columbine, I thought, great! I'll watch a pro-2nd amendment presentation.
Opposing congress is a good thing, but I doubt he is capable of supporting his own agenda with true facts. "
dyan wrote on Oct 6, 2009 8:40 PM:
Cogito wrote on Oct 6, 2009 7:48 PM:
Mrs. S. wrote on Oct 6, 2009 5:53 PM:
He's grown quite wealthy thanks to his many films. There are also accounts of how he treats his staff - rather like a feudal lord would treat his serfs.
What a hypocrite. I wouldn't be surprised if his next film was about how Americans are getting too fat. In between shooting it, he'd grab a couple of footlong subs and a dozen donuts. "
Gator wrote on Oct 6, 2009 3:45 PM:
Denmark, Finland who use many forms of Socialism bare any form
or resemblance to the Communism of Karl Marx as practiced by the Soviet Union you need to go back to school. As you carp on
BHO remember Shrub got un in a war for oil that should have
never happened. Next if he would have stayed in Afghanistan it
would have been finished by now. along with that a great number
of the almost 5000 killed in Iraq would still be alive dyan..Sleep
well with that information…. "
rantraves wrote on Oct 6, 2009 3:31 PM:
weezer wrote on Oct 6, 2009 1:51 PM:
Lodian wrote on Oct 6, 2009 11:26 AM:
Robb wrote on Oct 6, 2009 10:33 AM:
Galtguy wrote on Oct 6, 2009 4:12 AM:
For you to rail on about Reagan is assnine. Give it a rest dude.
Speaking of rule, so how do you explain this "You must buy health care" law your boy is trying to cram down our throats? Is this Ruling or is it governing? "
al da long wrote on Oct 5, 2009 9:51 PM:
dyan wrote on Oct 5, 2009 8:33 PM:
dyan wrote on Oct 5, 2009 8:23 PM:
dyan wrote on Oct 5, 2009 8:19 PM:
Gator wrote on Oct 5, 2009 8:18 PM:
White said “You just can’t Fix Stupid !!” "
dyan wrote on Oct 5, 2009 8:17 PM:
jeff wrote on Oct 5, 2009 1:44 PM:
dyan wrote on Oct 5, 2009 12:04 PM:
al da long wrote on Oct 5, 2009 7:19 AM:
CaptainGort wrote on Oct 4, 2009 8:53 AM:
Lodian wrote on Oct 3, 2009 1:56 PM:
Lodian wrote on Oct 3, 2009 1:55 PM:
Cogito wrote on Oct 3, 2009 10:13 AM:
election year wrote on Oct 3, 2009 9:41 AM:
Gator wrote on Oct 3, 2009 9:03 AM:
Bank of America with her U-Tube videos, Times they are a changing…With
all the cell phone Cameras and sites like U-Tube and some creative imagination every day America has a chance to put a leash the Government and Wall Street…If a person says it or does it in public you can be sure it will end up on the internet for all to see… "
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