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Freedom and human rights derived from God


Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:44 AM PDT

Arne Aasen's letter, "Constitution says nothing about God," is a sad commentary on how far our U.S. educational system has deteriorated in the last 50 years.

The U.S. public school system is in the process of "dumbing down" America and revising history, including the excluding of Christ Jesus from the public forum and from the heart and mind of our nation (our children).

We have a whole generation that doesn't know, nor wants to know, that the USA and its laws were founded on God's Word and are governed by its Christian principles. This abrogation of our Constitution, and our God it was founded in, will destroy this nation systematically and exponentially.

In the eighth grade, we couldn't pass our Social Studies/History requirement until we could, from memory and in front of the class, recite the Gettysburg Address, the Preamble to the Constitution and the first four sentences of the Declaration of Independence. We also had to explain the significance of the Mayflower Compact in U.S. History. Mr. Aasen, and all of us, should read these documents so we would be better able to explain where freedom and human rights derive from. If freedom and human rights derive from government, they can be dissolved as quickly as they are instituted. But if our human freedom and rights originate with God, then only He can rescind them.

And by the way, the world "Creator" with capital C is defined as God the Supreme Being. Also, it is used in the Declaration of Independence not the Constitution.

William Van Amber Fields
Morada

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Leonard wrote on Sep 26, 2009 3:49 PM:

" mike wrote on Sep 25, 2009 9:08 PM:
" Leonard; I think I'll go with my hypocrite hypothesis for you. I am neither new here nor do I consider Danielh unworthy of debate.


Then debate away, Mike. I am sure Daniel will enjoy the company.

Personally, with plenty of interesting people here to converse with, I have better things to do. "

mike wrote on Sep 25, 2009 9:19 PM:

" http://www.rense.com/general72/preamb.htm "

mike wrote on Sep 25, 2009 9:08 PM:

" Leonard; I think I'll go with my hypocrite hypothesis for you. I am neither new here nor do I consider Danielh unworthy of debate. "

Robb wrote on Sep 25, 2009 10:06 AM:

" Psycho, crazy talk..... There are medications for what ails you... "

Leonard wrote on Sep 25, 2009 4:51 AM:

" My offer of prayer was sincere. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 25, 2009 4:51 AM:

" mike wrote on Sep 25, 2009 4:22 AM:
" Leonard; everything you have written here makes perfect sense, but, you give yourself to much credit if you consider what you do here is debate.


You are new here so you probably haven't realized that you can't debate with Daniel. This has nothing to do with politics, the man is literally stark raving mad. "

mike wrote on Sep 25, 2009 4:22 AM:

" Leonard; everything you have written here makes perfect sense, but, you give yourself to much credit if you consider what you do here is debate.
In your last couple posts you called a man stupid then crazy and then you offer up a prayer for him.
hyper critical / hypocritical ? "

Leonard wrote on Sep 24, 2009 8:58 PM:

" Daniel, absolutely nothing you have written here makes any sense. How can I debate the delusional ramblings of a man with some sort of serious mental disorder?

I've said it before but I will say it again. For your own sake, you REALLY need to get professional help.

I will pray for you tonight. "

danielh wrote on Sep 24, 2009 7:55 PM:

" Leonard: You're so good at finding an alternative topic when your back is against the wall. Truth is that you don't know what you are talking about, and that doesn't stop you from expressing your opinion.

This website does not have an edit capability; and,

You know full well what Thomas Jefferson said. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 24, 2009 4:01 AM:

" danielh wrote on Sep 23, 2009 8:17 PM:
" Leonard: Do you wish to deny that Thomas Jefferson did not acknowledge the power of international banking? Just prior to the War of 1812?


That is a double negative. Learn how to write. "

danielh wrote on Sep 23, 2009 8:17 PM:

" Leonard: Do you wish to deny that Thomas Jefferson did not acknowledge the power of international banking? Just prior to the War of 1812? "

danielh wrote on Sep 23, 2009 8:16 PM:

" Since you are the so perfectly-well informed, just what does your understanding of history tell you was the British military objective in the War of 1812?
If their objective was to defeat the US military command, then why did they not burn the capital building and the US central military command?
The British set fire throughout Washington D.C. except they did not touch the capital building. They could have set fire to anything they wanted, but they skipped the central command.
Your version of history does not acknowledge the US Bankruptcy of 1789, so just what do you think the British were fighting about? "

Leonard wrote on Sep 22, 2009 8:13 PM:

" danielh wrote on Sep 22, 2009 7:06 PM:
" Leonard: Do you have any real knowledge whatsoever which pertains to the US constitution, or do you only know how to type "CHUCKLE"? "


I know that an individual copy of the original document was sent to each of the states for ratification. Thus, the destruction of a single copy in DC could not possibly have resulted in a clandestine change in the content of the whole.

Nice paranoid delusion, though. Perhaps you should try again. "

danielh wrote on Sep 22, 2009 7:06 PM:

" Leonard: Do you have any real knowledge whatsoever which pertains to the US constitution, or do you only know how to type "CHUCKLE"? "

Leonard wrote on Sep 21, 2009 6:10 PM:

" danielh wrote on Sep 21, 2009 5:44 PM:

So we have to establish an understanding of who has credibility and who is irrelevant around here, before I'm giving you any of my sources.


Chuckle... so you REALLY don't want anybody to take you seriously? "

danielh wrote on Sep 21, 2009 5:46 PM:

" Bob Hussein Loblaw: did you really want to know, or were you just amusing yourself?

Continue talking about freemasons without suggesting anything specific and without demonstrating that you know what you are talking about. "

danielh wrote on Sep 21, 2009 5:44 PM:

" Bob Hussein Loblaw: As a courtesy, I'll inform you that my sources go to court, and they win.

Moreover, we don't play around with baby dollar figures, and misdomeanors.

So we have to establish an understanding of who has credibility and who is irrelevant around here, before I'm giving you any of my sources. "

danielh wrote on Sep 21, 2009 5:40 PM:

" Bob Hussein Loblaw revealed, "I'll regret asking a crazy person."

You think I'm crazy, but you have enough curiosity to ask for my sources.

I have good sources that are a lot more devoted to discovery of the truth, and more interested in doing something about it, than you are. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Sep 20, 2009 10:54 PM:

" danielh revealed: "I am learning that a 13th amendment, and the original constitution were destroyed."

I know I'll regret asking a crazy person this, but here goes. Danny, where did you "learn" this? "

danielh wrote on Sep 20, 2009 8:10 PM:

" Lodian, Bob Hussein Loblaw: I cannot ignore the fires in Washington D.C. in the War of 1812. In these fires, I am learning that a 13th amendment, and the original constitution were destroyed.

The 13th amendment was the cause for war, because it banished the placement of title on property, as a means of concealment from the European bankers.

Today, we all know that our mortgages are securitized by a deed of trust to transfer title. "

danielh wrote on Sep 20, 2009 8:07 PM:

" Lodian, Bob Hussein Loblaw: Throughout the constitution, there are capital letters everywhere, practically in every sentence.

Although each sentence reads quite nicely, and the capitalized words appear to have style, these capitalized words usually don't make any sense because each one of them requires definition.

If the constitution does not define the meaning of each capitalized word, then these are open to definition elsewhere.

These are not common nouns. "

Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 3:03 PM:

" Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Sep 19, 2009 6:50 PM:

" The majority of the Founding Fathers were Masons. Masonic writings refer in generalities to "The Creator" or a "Higher Power" so as not to alienate folks of differing beliefs.

Those who crafted the Declaration and Constitution simply used a lot of Masonic language. "

Interesting facts. Thanks, Bob. "

danielh wrote on Sep 20, 2009 2:41 PM:

" Jerome R. Kinderman: This article is about the constitution's protection of religion; and, I put a footnote on the constitution to state what it really stands for.

Loan documents on public record are not found in Google unless someone publishes in the internet.

Loans are documented in the public record. In this case, the ones I am talking about are probably documented in London, England; and, the creditor for the Revolutionary War and for Louisiana Purchase goes by the name "THE CROWN."

You wrote, "I would imagine a tidy sum will have accrued."

Probably true; and, I doubt that it has been paid. "

danielh wrote on Sep 20, 2009 2:35 PM:

" Jerome R. Kinderman: I am not overly obsessed. In this country, there is nothing that matters more.

There is an unimaginable death toll over the debt, and slavery; and, you think it is unimportant.

It affects the value of your labor, and you don't think it is important.

Do you remember the Hollywood movie "The Matrix" ?

Those people in the cocoons were US citizens, and they did not concern themselves with petty circumstances such as taxation.

Did you read 1984? The citizens did not concern themselves with such things as truth.

good luck with your blissful state. "

Vance Buckler wrote on Sep 20, 2009 11:12 AM:

" The universities, trial lawyers, labor unions, the ACLU, and most large newspapers and television networks are dominated by secular leftists. They are dedicated to attacking the uniqueness of Judeo Christian values. "

Vance Buckler wrote on Sep 20, 2009 11:11 AM:

" We are fighting a second civil war. over the basic moral values that this country was founded on. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Sep 19, 2009 6:50 PM:

" The majority of the Founding Fathers were Masons. Masonic writings refer in generalities to "The Creator" or a "Higher Power" so as not to alienate folks of differing beliefs.

Those who crafted the Declaration and Constitution simply used a lot of Masonic language. "

dogs4you wrote on Sep 19, 2009 2:43 PM:

" God, the Creator, call him what ever you like. Any or all of the above allegedly gave man and woman a brain to work out their problems without God`s help, so far it would seem that the brain has been a waste of time since no one can agree on anything, and keep ragging on each other everytime the word God is mentioned. Free Huey. "

anthropis wrote on Sep 19, 2009 2:07 PM:

" Good letter... The fact that Citizens of the United States, as a matter of law, are endowed by their Creator with Unalienable Rights seems to provoke atheists, satanists, social Marxists and I might add those void of reality and common sense. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 19, 2009 12:21 PM:

" Conservatives are convinced the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution actually set up the Christian theocracy they pine for.

Why didn't the framers of those important documents choose to use the actual name "Jesus Christ" when referring to the Deity?

They didn’t, you know (it’s best if you know this fact straight up and admit it).

So why, then, didn't they say, "God the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost"?

Why, then, are all of those names conspicuously ABSENT? And how come it doesn’t actually SAY “Christ” or “Christian” anywhere?

Why?

Do the modern conservative theocrats think the founders didn't know of the name "Jesus Christ"?

No, instead the framers carefully chose the name "Creator".

If you believe YOUR "Creator" to be Jesus, fine.
You think he’s "God"? Great.
Is another's "Creator" Allah? Yes, fine.
Earth Mother? It's covered.
Mithra? Ra? Zeus? Caesar? Yeah, sure, no problem. Whoever.

No matter how many times the liars keep bawling and bleating that this is a "Christian nation!" founded on "Judeo-Christian values!" it is still a lie. Freedom of religion, NOT “Christianity like it or not. "

Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 19, 2009 8:53 AM:

" danielh - you seem so overly obsessed with borrowing. Just what do the finances of the passengers on the Mayflower have to do with the point of the letter? Perhaps you could perform a Google to determine if the debt is still outstanding? After all these years (centuries) I would imagine a tidy sum will have accrued if even a small portion wasn't repaid to the creditor(s). Ahh, I know - from the eventual payment President Obama may very well find a source to pay for public healthcare. But then again, I doubt that the United States would have a valid claim. "

Mazie wrote on Sep 19, 2009 8:29 AM:

" Amen!!! Wonderful article. "

danielh wrote on Sep 19, 2009 8:08 AM:

" Mayflower compact. Very interesting. I would like to add that for just one single delapidated cargo ship, Mayflower, these pioneers had a loan, and I don't know if it was paid either. "

danielh wrote on Sep 19, 2009 8:07 AM:

" William Van Amber Fields: Thank you again.

I am glad to see that you have the Declaration of Independence.

To the best of my understanding, the Declaration of Independence is a document for the people, whereas the constitution is a corporate document which assures corporate responsibility of the United States to pay the debt, which by the way, I don't believe has been paid.

Also: those capital letters did not exist when the word of god was first expressed in writing, so in language, I don't see any reason to put a capital G. Capitalization was used by the Romans to capitalize living people into human machinery for the purposes of production; hence the meaning of the word. Today, capitals are used to denote corporate fiction. Doesn't sound like our father to me. "

danielh wrote on Sep 19, 2009 8:01 AM:

" William Van Amber Fields: Thank you very much.

I would like to further advise the reputable Arne Aasen that the constitution is a list of items that the federal government cannot do. "

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