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Proud to be a Lutheran
Monday, September 14, 2009 6:08 AM PDT
I would like to clarify my statement quoted in the Aug. 31 Lodi News-Sentinel.
At a time when there is so much conflict and anger over social issues in our nation, I am proud that the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, at its national convention, could prayerfully and thoughtfully come to a consensus on a controversial social issue.
It defined marriage between a man and a woman. And that, in light of the scientific evidence, it gave homosexuals the same rights, privileges and respect shown to heterosexuals.
It recognized the need for individual congregations to call a pastor who could best lead them in their faith walk.
It has equipped me to read and study the Bible so that I can come to my own spiritual and moral decision, without having the church attempt to tell me what to believe.
St. Paul Lutheran Church has offered a forum where issues can be discussed and debated within the bounds of mutual respect.
And that Christ fulfilled the Old Testament constraints and gave us the most important commandment of all, "To love one another as I have loved you" — unconditionally.
Yes, I have never been more proud to be a Lutheran.
D'Arlene Rosenau
Lodi
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Leonard wrote on Sep 21, 2009 5:14 PM:
A man in that position could become unhinged and might well come to pose a real threat, instead of a guilty amusement. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 21, 2009 3:45 PM:
Sincere Regards,
Lodian "
Brian wrote on Sep 21, 2009 3:42 PM:
Brian: You apologize a lot, except to me. I bet your loved ones get a bit weary of always feeling they have to accept your apologies for all the wrong you have done. It looks like you are making daily apologies now (empty ones at that). Your faux apologies aren't fooling anyone. These constant outbursts and then apologies are classic with abusers and addicts. AA and counseling may be your best bet at this point. Your family is worth it, Brian. I'm sure many of us here will pray for you as you attempt to achieve sobriety. Good luck.
-Lodian claims to not be slanderous. Yet a good portion of her post above is
things she can only assume to be true.
Based on what little she knows about me she sure can come to a lot of nasty conclusions about me. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that she doesn't know what slanderous is as to explain away her comments. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 21, 2009 3:32 PM:
Sincere Regards,
Lodian "
Robb wrote on Sep 21, 2009 3:02 PM:
Do as you wish, follow your heart.
In the end, it doesn't matter.. "
rantraves wrote on Sep 21, 2009 1:03 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 21, 2009 11:43 AM:
Who is "we" and why does anyone have to leave if they disagree with you? Your claim to support free speech is a quickly looking like a farce, Jerome. YOU want free speech while we all just listen and stifle our views and opinions. Are you aware that we live in America? Maybe you are from another country? "
Lodian wrote on Sep 21, 2009 11:23 AM:
Brian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 8:22 PM
"Get off my back BITCH! You're really becoming an irritant. Your pathetic little rants are becoming old and tiresome. Why don't you just leave these bloggs and maybe your ilk will go too. You must be quite miserable to have to disrupt every blog with your
childish antics. Go away BITCH!!!!!!!"
Interesting that one would complain about a so-called "pathetic little rants" when posting a "pathetic little rant". lol. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 21, 2009 11:18 AM:
What slanderous remarks, Brian? You're always threatening people here. I see you are claiming to be the victim, again, and doing the same for your buddy. Your constant attacks and then whining about being a victim here are pathetic. No one has to report you to the LNS as your most nasty remarks are quickly removed as soon as the LNS sees them. But there are still some real character revealed through some of your most classic comments......
Brian wrote..."Lodian, one last thing. GO F%$# YOURSELF!"
Brian wrote..."And I stand by those words. No one deserves a good Bitch slap as much as you, Lodian."
Brian wrote..."YOU PIECE OF S%&t!!!!!!!!!!!"
Brian wrote..."voter, It's a good thing you live in Lodi and I live in Phoenix. I may be inclined to track you down, If I lived in Lodi, and have a little chat with you to claify to you that I'm not a loser as you depict me as. So, that being said, keep your snide remarks about me to yourself if you know what's good for you."
And so many more..... "
Brian wrote on Sep 21, 2009 9:03 AM:
" Brian wrote "She oftens makes it a point to oppress anyone who might want to spread some good cheer."
Brian: Weird comment. It must be painful to deal with those thoughts that run through your head. Again... AA and counseling could do wonders for you, Brian. Please consider it. Your family deserves it. "
-This gets to the heart of the contempt lodian and her ilk have for JRK. I will
pray for them. Never before have I met anyone that thinks the way they do. Every post they make sends them deeper into their insanity. I could report them to the LNS for therir slanderous remarks. But it does better just to leave them up so everyone can see what type of people we are dealing with here.
The majority of the people here enjoy and find JRK's posts and letters informative and refreshing. Only a troublemaker with a vendetta on him would think otherwise. The proof is quite clear that these people stick together and their sole agenda here is to disrupt. And heaven forbid anyone retalliate or they will be reported to the LNS. "
stantaves wrote on Sep 20, 2009 7:50 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 3:11 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 2:54 PM:
Leonard wrote on Sep 20, 2009 2:49 PM:
Even you should know that. "
rantraves wrote on Sep 20, 2009 2:27 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 1:21 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 1:20 PM:
to use as a tool to strong arm the government to reward them for their mistakes."
The anti-gay people strong-armed the government to oppress their fellow Americans and ban gay marriage. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 1:15 PM:
Brian: Weird comment. It must be painful to deal with those thoughts that run through your head. Again... AA and counseling could do wonders for you, Brian. Please consider it. Your family deserves it. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 1:08 PM:
"Lodian, one last thing. GO F%$# YOURSELF!"
Brian wrote "And I stand by those words. No one deserves a good Bitch slap as much as you, Lodian."
----------------
Yep, you let us know all about you on a daily basis, Brian. Your lack of character, and class, shows through in every post. And your faux apologies to other bloggers here (not me! lol) for your outbursts are now falling on deaf ears. We've all learned who you are and what you are by YOUR own actions here, Bryan. Good job. "
voter wrote on Sep 20, 2009 1:07 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 1:01 PM:
Yes, it's easy, all one has to do is read the words you write here. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 12:59 PM:
Think again. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 12:57 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 12:49 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 12:48 PM:
"Lodian, one last thing. GO F%$# YOURSELF!"
--------------
Yep, that's a classic. "
-And I stand by those words. No one deserves a good Bitch slap as much as you, Lodian. "
---------------
Brian wrote "No one deserves a good Bitch slap as much as you..."
Wow, Brian, is that what you tell your wife, umm... significant other? Have you looked into getting help through AA and counseling yet? Don't make your family suffer, Brian. "
voter wrote on Sep 20, 2009 10:22 AM:
rantraves wrote on Sep 20, 2009 9:39 AM:
rantraves wrote on Sep 20, 2009 9:29 AM:
rantraves wrote on Sep 20, 2009 9:23 AM:
Brian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 5:52 AM:
We must accept the consequences of our sinful nature. God doesn't discard us as a result of our mistakes; but he doesn't reward us for them either.
-But that won't keep gays from misinterpreting what the Bible says
to use as a tool to strong arm the government to reward them for their mistakes. "
Brian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 5:25 AM:
These constant outbursts and then apologies are classic with abusers and addicts.
-I'm not too worried about what Lodian says about me. There's enough people in Lodi that know me to be nothing of the sort. Of course she thinks she has the upper hand because she knows who I am
and she somehow knows things about me that are contrary to what my friends know about me.
HER OPINIONS are always written with insults, jabs and a monster tone of superiority....and then she acts as if she's never said a foul, hateful or contradictory thing in her life. She does not exude the characteristics of the fair minded, intelligent, humble woman she would like. Her writings here, in my opinion, have become a joke amongst many bloggers. It's only getting worse. Bottom line...she's full of herself. " "
Brian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 5:15 AM:
Actually, with JRK, it's usually all about himself, hate, exclusion and oppressing his fellow Americans. And all the while he speaks of free speech and the right to disagree? Hypocrisy at it's best.
- I never thought of spreading good cheer analogous to anything that lodian
describes JRK as being. I've often thought of lodian as being the oppressor. She oftens makes it a point to oppress anyone who might want to spread some good cheer. Oh, but heaven forbid we oppress her constitutional right to free speech. "
Brian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 5:06 AM:
He does not exude the characteristics of the fair minded, intelligent, humble man he would like. His writings here, in my opinion, have become a joke amongst many bloggers. It's only getting worse. Bottom line...he's full of himself. "
-Then I really don't know why you don't get along with him, Lodian, if this is the case. "
Brian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 4:18 AM:
Why is it everyone that Lodian disagrees with is a hatemonger to her?
Her last post is about as intellectually dishonest as it gets.
She spews out her vitriol like she has some personal vendetta with JRK.
Lodian wrote on Sep 19, 2009 5:38 PM:
" Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 19, 2009 10:11 AM:
"Brian wrote on Feb 16, 2009 5:56 PM:
"Lodian, one last thing. GO F%$# YOURSELF!"
--------------
Yep, that's a classic. "
-And I stand by those words. No one deserves a good Bitch slap as much as you, Lodian. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 19, 2009 6:16 PM:
Brian: Ahh...how sweet. Well, it's pretty easy because it's the truth. Actually, in my honest opinion, Jerome R Kinderman is just not a very good communicator or writer, let alone...NO SENSE OF HUMOR!!! IMO, he is ignorant of most of what he speaks, spewing much hate along the way. Actually, with JRK, it's usually all about himself, hate, exclusion and oppressing his fellow Americans. And all the while he speaks of free speech and the right to disagree? Hypocrisy at it's best! Isn't this what they call "Speaking out of both sides of your mouth"? (rhetorical) Jerome's opinions are always written with insults, jabs and a monster tone of superiority....and then he acts as if he's never said a foul, hateful or contradictory thing in his life. He does not exude the characteristics of the fair minded, intelligent, humble man he would like. His writings here, in my opinion, have become a joke amongst many bloggers. It's only getting worse. Bottom line...he's full of himself. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 19, 2009 5:41 PM:
dyan: When hell freezes over I will take you seriously. ;-) "
Lodian wrote on Sep 19, 2009 5:38 PM:
"Brian wrote on Feb 16, 2009 5:56 PM:
"Lodian, one last thing. GO F%$# YOURSELF!"
--------------
Yep, that's a classic. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 19, 2009 5:37 PM:
Brian: You apologize a lot, except to me. I bet your loved ones get a bit weary of always feeling they have to accept your apologies for all the wrong you have done. It looks like you are making daily apologies now (empty ones at that). Your faux apologies aren't fooling anyone. These constant outbursts and then apologies are classic with abusers and addicts. AA and counseling may be your best bet at this point. Your family is worth it, Brian. I'm sure many of us here will pray for you as you attempt to achieve sobriety. Good luck. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 19, 2009 5:21 PM:
" Lodian wrote;
stooge: I read Bible and pray everyday. Your version (interpretation) of the Bible preaches hate and exclusion, mine does not. I will pray for you. May God bless you and open your heart and mind to the truth. "
-Lodian,
I still haven't found that verse in the Bible where you say it says homosexuality is not a sin. "
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Brian: So, you want me to prove a negative? "
Lodian wrote on Sep 19, 2009 5:12 PM:
Vance Buckler wrote on Sep 19, 2009 4:19 PM:
Vance Buckler wrote on Sep 19, 2009 4:18 PM:
Brian wrote on Sep 19, 2009 4:08 PM:
stooge: I read Bible and pray everyday. Your version (interpretation) of the Bible preaches hate and exclusion, mine does not. I will pray for you. May God bless you and open your heart and mind to the truth. "
-Lodian,
I still haven't found that verse in the Bible where you say it says homosexuality is not a sin. "
Brian wrote on Sep 19, 2009 12:40 PM:
I like for you and Lodian to point out where I have
made it almost impossible for anyone to express their moral obligations. "
Brian wrote on Sep 19, 2009 12:14 PM:
I will again acknowledge I have digressed and I apologize if I have offended anyone.
Unlike Lodian and her ilk, I feel obligated to hold myself accountable.
It's sad how the progressives have made it almost impossible for anyone to express their moral obligations without any attacks from them as a result of what they express. " "
Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 19, 2009 10:11 AM:
"Lodian, one last thing. GO F%$# YOURSELF!" "
Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 19, 2009 10:09 AM:
Brian wrote Sep19,2009 8:13AM:"...many...would much rather see them contribute to the discussion rather than their usual vitriol...people are...almost silent because anyone that may choose to agree with...face an onslaught of criticism from Lodian...It's really sad that such a talented person like you is their punching bag.But your words and assessments don't go unnoticed by us...Thanks for your contributons."
[OK, get ready for comedy gold]
I would never deny Lodian and her ilk their free speech. However, their childish rants...
[snicker]
...are becoming...a bad reflection on the LNS...It's sad how the progressives have made it almost impossible for anyone to express their moral obligations without any attacks...as a result of what they express."
Soooooo...
Brian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 8:22 PM:
-Get off my back BITCH! You're really becoming an irritant. Your pathetic little rants are becoming old and tiresome. Why don't you just leave these bloggs and maybe your ilk will go too. You must be quite miserable to have to disrupt every blog with your
childish antics. Go away BITCH!!!!!!!!" "
Brian wrote on Sep 19, 2009 8:13 AM:
Thanks for your contributons. I would never deny Lodian and her ilk their free speech. However, their childish
rants are becoming more and more of a bad reflection on the LNS. I will again acknowledge I have digressed and I apologize if I have offended anyone.
Unlike Lodian and her ilk, I feel obligated to hold myself accountable.
It's sad how the progressives have made it almost impossible for anyone to express their moral obligations without any attacks from them as a result of what they express. "
dyan wrote on Sep 18, 2009 7:38 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 1:13 PM:
Jerome: In believing God's word, and considering what Jesus would do, I am confident that I am doing what God asks of me. What you call "aberrant behavior" I call following the Bible and our Lord's example. It's sinful that you think an angry, hateful exclusionary stand on gay marriage is what you think God would ask of you. Very very sad. I'll pray for you. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 1:04 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:53 PM:
" Jerome, you probably don't realize how much you sound like RF lately. I remember that you were often at battle with him and were the voice of reason. What happened to you in the past year? Your beliefs have become irrational and cultish. "
I know what you mean. It's a complete turn around. Jerome is not even the same guy he was in the Real Facts days when he posted as girard74. Makes one wonder. It looks like Real Facts got Jerome/girard caught in his web. How unfortunate. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:50 PM:
voter wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:45 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:45 PM:
Ah, the master of belittlement. Are you proud? Is this "Christ-like", Jerome? "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:40 PM:
" Good! Lodian is telling us how she "feels." Sounds like an angry liberal to me. "
I see that our resident right wingnut is so upset with the opposing views here that she is trying to change the blog direction, again. Sorry, it isn't going to happen, dy. I'm really not sure why any of this bothers you since you don't have any "feelings" anyway. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:36 PM:
Jerome: Indeed, no amount of taunting and accusations will ever cause me to abandon what I know to be true. And, no, girard74, I will NOT go away because you don't like an opposing view. Now that was really a pathetic comment from you. This is America, girard, and I can disagree with you all day long. Enjoy! :-) "
Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:32 PM:
dyan wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:05 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:04 PM:
" No Lodian, not angry and certainly never hateful."
I disagree 100%! Anyone that has been around to read your comments, even from your other handles (girard74 et al), can certainly testify to the fact that you can be extremely hateful and very angry. You don't see it, I know, and that is why it is a shame when people like you go on and on and never actually look in the mirror. Hit a nerve, girard? "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:00 PM:
Jerome R KInderman: Why should American citizens have to be oppressed by one segment of society when they say they are sinners and should not marry? There are plenty of heterosexual sinners getting married, and divorced, everyday! You will never address this question because you have no sincere reasonable answer as to why you advocate the oppression of one segment of society over another. You believe that it's your way or the highway and that is un-American. "
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:59 AM:
Your last two posts are precisely why I choose to ignore you and others who behave in the same fashion. You went on and on about divorce (simply to divert from the subject at hand), and then ignore when someone has the audacity to actually respond to you.
No, the hate and vitriol doesn't emanate from me; only from those who for whatever reason truly believe that we should be forced to change our stance on subjects that would have us deny our faith (in this particular case).
No amount of taunting and accusations will ever cause me to abandon what I know to be true. And as I've stated ad nauseum to you and others; if you disagree with what we believe, then simply go on your way. Referring to us as racist, homophobic or any other disparaging label that you can come up with does nothing to further your cause; it only makes you appear pathetic.
But like I stated before, I will continue to pray for you. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:51 AM:
So, you'd like to share your hateful opinions without anyone questioning you. Wow! Your issues run deeper than I thought, if that's the way you think things should work around here. I suggest that if that's what you enjoy then maybe you need to only post on blogs where everyone agrees with each other. That won't happen here. Thank God! Maybe try the Savage site or Rush or one of those gay basher type sites. That way you can all pat each other on the back without any decent. Your world is very small and sad, girard. I'll pray for you. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:40 AM:
Your rants are far grander than anything I have ever mustered up on these blogs, Jerome. lol! I know you may be shocked to hear this, but it's true. Just because I am honest and up front (aka frank!... no BS!) does not mean that I "rant". I consider your long whiny diatribes (ie; whining about being a victim) to be the ultimate in ranting. Most here would agree that you really take these blogs, and yourself, way too seriously, Jerome. And where in the world is your sense of humor? One would think that a man that has been through what you say you have, and is dealing with life as you live it now, would have an incredible sense of humor. But, some just become bitter and angry at the world. Try humor... you'll live longer and feel better. Let go of the hate and anger, Jerry. And stop blaming all of us here. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:18 AM:
" Actually Lodian, you along with a few others don't want to understand where Christians stand; you bait with questions and accusations that are designed to inflame the discourse."
The questions are just simple questions. You, and most of those that believe as you, are the ones that decide to either bail on the conversation/debate or get all fired up and angry when questions are asked of you. You give off the attitude of superiority, as if how dare we ask these questions of you. Why does it anger you, and those that believe as you, when direct sincere questions are asked of your belief system? You put your stance out there on the gay marriage issue (and others), with passion and many times with hateful angry words, but never seem to want to back up your position with how and why you believe these things to be true. It simply looks like you just want to have your hate, and spew it too, with no questions asked. Sorry, that just isn't going to happen here. "
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:03 AM:
I think they might serve well as a guest speaker to highlight the importance of marriage as it relates to the destructive nature of divorce, but they would hardly be qualified to counsel young couples on how to have and keep a happy and healthy marital household.
We must accept the consequences of our sinful nature. God doesn't discard us as a result of our mistakes; but he doesn't reward us for them either.
Living the Christian life (being "Christ-like") is extremely difficult. It takes obeying God and his commandments to a level that seems now obsolete and passe to an ultra-permissive society. It also opens us up to the scorn and ridicule of those who remain lost in their lives as they search for the next feel-good experience. As most of us realize, those man-made highs don't last very long. "
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 18, 2009 10:24 AM:
However, the subject here is not divorce, but the issue of homosexuality and its place in any Christian church. I would doubt that anyone would even begin to suggest that divorce is not sinful and that God is extremely displeased with those of us who have terminated our marriages in this fashion.
I would even go so far as to suggest that divorced people should not ascend to leadership roles in Christian churches; just as I believe that homosexuals should not be installed as pastors, priests or other leaders.
I've never celebrated the fact that I'm divorced; but I have tried to learn from my mistakes and have taken corrective action to ensure that it never happens again. This is precisely what God expects of us.
And I will always disagree with you that homosexuality IS an abomination to God. While you are free to believe as you wish, you will never convince me otherwise. Does this mean that gay people cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven? Of course not! As Christians, all their sins are forgiven. "
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 18, 2009 10:13 AM:
But history has proven that at least here on the blogs your mission is to demean, insult and otherwise create dissension in conversations that are not always easy to conduct.
Frankly, I would contend that your queries have already been answered and if you truly did want to find out more, you've got the entire Internet to refer to in order to find the answers without trying to flummox those here who are just trying to set forth their opinions.
But I will continue to pray for you and the rest of the little crowd that seems to find pleasure in such aberrant behavior.
As such, I will again resume ignoring your overwhelmingly useless comments. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 10:11 AM:
Jerome: If you believe this then why do we see you join in on the besiege against gay people wanting to marry and not a peep about divorce? Where is the outrage, Jerome? Divorce is THE worst thing for marriage and family. Divorce definitely destroys marriage and family (duh). Preserve marriage, Jerome, and ban divorce. I don't see you jumping on this one, Jerome. Why? The Bible speaks of the sin of divorce many many times, yet I don't see the outrage for this sin. The attack on gay people wanting to marry is Bible cherry picking at its worst, Jerome. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 10:04 AM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 10:02 AM:
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 18, 2009 9:57 AM:
God offers no distinction between sins; one carries no more weight than another, in spite of what man has assigned to lawless behavior. Christians freely and fully admit this innate flaw and are forever thankful that Jesus has taken on our sinfulness in order for us to enter into the Heavenly Kingdom once we die.
But as I've commented numerous times, I cannot understand the hatred from those who don't believe toward those who do. All we do is offer the knowledge of God and his gift of salvation. So why are we hated and feared so much? Just how do we threaten those who are free to believe otherwise? "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 9:54 AM:
dyan wrote on Sep 18, 2009 9:30 AM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 11:41 PM:
stooge: I read Bible and pray everyday. Your version (interpretation) of the Bible preaches hate and exclusion, mine does not. I will pray for you. May God bless you and open your heart and mind to the truth. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 11:35 PM:
You tell people what YOU think it says. There's a difference. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 11:33 PM:
How do you figure? Homosexuals are no more a sinner than you or I. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 11:32 PM:
dyan disagrees with this because she is probably divorced. What a shock! lol! "
onestooge wrote on Sep 17, 2009 11:29 PM:
dyan wrote on Sep 17, 2009 7:30 PM:
dyan wrote on Sep 17, 2009 7:29 PM:
Leonard wrote on Sep 17, 2009 6:27 PM:
" voter: Is Wickster yet another one of Brian's alters?
Maybe it is Ivan? "
dyan wrote on Sep 17, 2009 1:49 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 11:12 AM:
onestooge: The why don't the people that think like you (against gay marriage) do something about it? Divorce is a sin! How can you possibly think anyone would take you (the people that say being gay is a sin) seriously when you don't address divorce with even a sliver of the attention you besiege on gay people for simply wanting to marry? This just makes all the anti-gay marriage people look like prejudiced kooks. If you want to protect marriage then put all your efforts, time, money and resources into addressing the HUUUUGE divorce rate/problem in this country. Gay marriage requests are a drop in the bucket when compared to people filing for divorce in this country! And the impact divorce has on marriage (duh), families, children and society is much much greater than a gay couple wanting to marry! Gay bashers' priorities are so out of order it's simply scary....and wrong. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 10:56 AM:
Wow, that's EXACTLY (word for word) what Brian keeps saying. Hmmm.
You're slipping, Brian. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 10:55 AM:
Brian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 8:29 AM:
Brian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 8:26 AM:
Yes, I agree.
Can you share your thinking on this obsessive behavior, Brian? "
-On the rare occasion that I discuss how I feel about a man going at it doggy style with another man it's usually with disgust. How a man could find pleasure packing another man's peanut butter is beyond me. "
Brian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 8:19 AM:
" Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:54 PM:
" How does Brian "work" all those handles? What a talent. "
How many handles does he have? "
-This is a common tactic of Lodian and some others when they can't win the argument. Again, the LNS can verify that I only use Brian. "
Wickster wrote on Sep 17, 2009 8:17 AM:
Brian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 8:15 AM:
" Lodian: I'm glad you "feel" it is not a sin. Fact: All of the world's major religions disagree with you. But that doesn't matter. What's important is that it "Feels" good to those who engage in such practices. "
-Indeed.
Lodian is the epitomy of "moral relativism". Heaven forbid anyone else
cherry pick the Bible to suit their needs. "
Brian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 8:11 AM:
" How does Brian "work" all those handles? What a talent. "
-The LNS can verify that I am only using Brian by checking my isp. For a short time I used onelastthing.
And was quite some time ago. But I am flattered that lodian thinks I have such a wide a diversified ability to write.
And the names that she accuses me of being are obviously a thorn in her side
too. Lest we not forget that this thorn in her side is self-induced. But that won't keep her from blaming me and the others for her misery. No ones holding a gun to her head that she has to read or comment on these posts. "
onestooge wrote on Sep 17, 2009 1:26 AM:
dyan wrote on Sep 16, 2009 3:18 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 11:08 AM:
" It always amazes me how some people are completely obsessed with the sex lives of their friends and neighbors."
Yes, I agree.
Can you share your thinking on this obsessive behavior, Brian? "
Lodian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 11:05 AM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 11:04 AM:
dyan wrote on Sep 16, 2009 9:08 AM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 16, 2009 5:21 AM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 12:25 AM:
" No Lodian, compare what you believe to Gods word, The Bible. "
I know that it says time and time again in the Bible that divorce is a sin! Where is the outrage in this country about divorce? "
Lodian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 12:23 AM:
Being gay is not a sin. Are you just as adamant about divorce being a sin? How about making divorce against the law? There is where you could make a real difference in society. "
voter wrote on Sep 15, 2009 6:53 PM:
" The dialog we were attempting to convey is primarily what is wrong with gays becoming priest or pastors."
This sentence is hilarious. Basically you are saying that your dialog is the problem. LOL. I agree.
Who is "we"? "
voter wrote on Sep 15, 2009 4:41 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 15, 2009 5:43 AM:
"God's Word (the Bible!) says it's a SIN!" they screech.
We've all noticed these same sanctimonious church ladies ignoring every other capital punishement sin in the bible; they only rush to bark about the issues that align with their own personal hatreds.
Meanwhile, they all go home to dream about all the positions the pastor gets into. "
onestooge wrote on Sep 14, 2009 11:33 PM:
Wickster wrote on Sep 14, 2009 10:35 PM:
And isn't there a cardinal rule not to reveal who the true identity of the bloggers name is even if your guess is far off? "
Mainframe wrote on Sep 14, 2009 10:22 PM:
" How does Brian "work" all those handles? What a talent. "
How many handles does he have? "
sam wrote on Sep 14, 2009 7:08 PM:
voter wrote on Sep 14, 2009 6:33 PM:
Brian, we all know you're tosh and wickster and a half dozen other aliases. I guess it wouldn't do much for your image as a "straight" guy to make post after post describing gay sex acts, would it, so you have to keep switching characters to get in all those titillating details. And sad to say, it doesn't sound like you're getting much excitement or variety in your straight sex life either. What a pathetic situation. Come out, come out, where ever you are. "
sam wrote on Sep 14, 2009 5:02 PM:
Amen.
Nice letter. Thank you. "
sam wrote on Sep 14, 2009 5:00 PM:
You guys need to take care of yourself. Seriously. "
sam wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:58 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:54 PM:
tosh conn wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:32 PM:
How did such revulsion find its way into a synod ?? How pitiful. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:30 PM:
How is it any different from a heterosexual preacher that had the same sort of evening the night before?
(this is guessing that you meant preacher and not priest) "
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:24 PM:
onestooge: So, then who's decision should everyone go by when interpreting the Bible and God's word? Yours? " "
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:22 PM:
veritas: We have all seen some things that may not be flattering, or that are not what we consider appropriate, but to judge all gay people based on a parade is pure prejudice. Do I judge all preachers by America's experience with Ted Haggard? Of course not. Then why judge all gay people by the actions of "some" gay people? There have been plenty of weird old men that have done some nasty things, but do we judge you by their actions? Of course not. You need to stop judging all gay people due to a parade that offends you. "
veritas wrote on Sep 14, 2009 3:23 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 12:21 PM:
onestooge wrote on Sep 14, 2009 11:09 AM:
max stanfield wrote on Sep 14, 2009 10:36 AM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:51 AM:
Read the Bible for yourself indeed, Ms. Rosenau, indeed. Everyone should take this as advice and think for yourself! "
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