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Why is Wade Heath a columnist?
Monday, September 14, 2009 4:00 PM PDT
I've been looking at your paper for more than 30 years and I've seen some pretty interesting articles, writers, publications, etc. I've been wanting to write for quite some time but just thought it would be considered either petty or trivial.
Why you started publishing Wade Heath's articles is beyond anyone with a sixth-grade education. I know you don't publish letters that are mean, demoralizing, slanderous, lies, etc. While reading Wade's articles, I find most of what he writes to fall in all of these categories.
There is a list of things that bother me about you publishing his articles:
I am not sure what Wade's major is at Cal State Fullerton, but if it is political science, he is not cracking the books.
He referred to himself as a kid in today's article. When you are over the age of 23 you are no longer a kid. You are an adult.
While it is commendable that you are on the slow path to graduation, most students can graduate in five years. Again, crack the books, take a full load, do not take semesters off and attend classes. It helps.
Do not write an article using "Good Ol' Boy" and bandwagon politics.
He refers to a pundit. Wade is a pundit. You are what you eat!
Truly investigate the Independent Party! Jesse Ventura (Independent Party), the former governor of Minnesota, was on "Larry King Live" last month. He had nothing nice to say about the Republican Party, and in fact leaned more toward the left.
Everyone has their 15 minutes of fame. Wade should have let it go when he was on Dr. Phil's show that "one" time.
Don't put your foot in your mouth, especially when you are not well-versed in what you write about. Most of what Wade uses as his basis is the same information he probably heard at the dining room table conversation, especially at election time.
While Wade's heart might be in the right spot, sometimes it is not OK to write, speak or think out loud. It can haunt you.
Notice that I tried to stay away from politics, because that is not my fortè. I made reference to the Larry King interview only as an observation, not as a fact or viewpoint.
Tom Nardinelli
Lodi
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Brian wrote on Sep 21, 2009 7:29 PM:
" My apologies to you, Brian, if I have offended you. I will try to never address you again, as we just don't get along. Have a good day. God bless you and your family.
Sincere Regards,
Lodian "
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Lodian wrote on Sep 21, 2009 3:33 PM:
" My apologies to you, Jerome R. Kinderman, if I have offended you. I will try to never address you again, as we just don't get along. Have a good day. God bless.
Sincere Regards,
Lodian "
-We'll see how long this lasts. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 21, 2009 3:47 PM:
Sincere Regards,
Lodian "
Lodian wrote on Sep 21, 2009 3:33 PM:
Sincere Regards,
Lodian "
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 5:51 PM:
lol! "
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 1:43 PM:
Brian wrote "And I stand by those words. No one deserves a good Bitch slap as much as you, Lodian."
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Lodian wrote "Really...what kind of person posts such a thing?"
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Brian wrote "I am under no obligation to answer that question. Just like you are under no obligation to refute anything that is so true about your style of writing."
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Tells us a lot about you, Brian. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 1:24 PM:
Brian wrote on Sep 20, 2009 5:45 AM:
" It's so pathetic how you whine (like you're a forum victim) about the rants of others while posting the ultimate attacking rant ever. Goes to character, Brian, your character... or lack thereof.
Really... what kind of person posts such a thing?
-I am under no obligation to answer that question. Just like you are under no obligation to refute anything that is so true about your style of writing.
I have to give you credit that you consistently hold others to a higher standard all the while you have nothing to do with anyone that might want to
expect better from you than your typical
rants. "
CaptainGort wrote on Sep 19, 2009 9:19 AM:
After all, it is THEY that will be impacted by the decisions the gray-hairs are making now...and it is THEY who will pay the toll. Just like in War. "
mojo_mcjones wrote on Sep 18, 2009 10:39 PM:
" You seem to have a very harsh opinion about someone who is asked to write opinionated articles. "
I agree fully. And you know what, if he takes a semester off that's not a bad thing. Not everyone can work and take on a full school load. It's just plain mean to, in my opinion, attack him for it.
I felt your article attacked him as a person. You should have just stuck to writing things that contradicted the things he was writing and been a good "journalist" yourself,you know, hold yourself to your own standard? But instead you wanted to make us all aware of how lazy he is for not looking up ALL the facts before stating his OPINION. And that he hasn't even graduated college because clearly he must be slow or some sort of slacker.
From the outside looking in I felt this was a mean personal attack. And say whatever you want about what I wrote weather or not it made any sense to anyone but this was just in poor taste. No matter what point you were trying to make. "
Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Sep 18, 2009 9:23 PM:
rantraves wrote on Sep 18, 2009 8:41 PM:
Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Sep 18, 2009 3:14 PM:
Ummmmmmm.......because he's not a rower?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 1:40 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 1:37 PM:
Absolutely, but the blog conversation you mentioned was about writings away from these blogs. An anonymous blogger is not obligated, even when pushed and belittled, to offer their real name and their list of writings/offerings to the public here. Wouldn't you agree, Jerome? "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 1:33 PM:
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 18, 2009 1:07 PM:
While I understood your point regarding anonymous comments, I would think that especially you would get behind the notion of questioning what others write here without just taking their word for it. After all, isn't that what you have been demanding of others with whom you disagree? Or is it unfair to question those who believe as you do? Your hypocrisy is showing! "
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:52 PM:
As for my decision to ascribe my real name to each post I submit, the idea that I waited until my youngest child was out of the Lodi school district is preposterous. I've been writing letters to the editor of the Lodi News Sentinel since 1991, shortly after I moved here. At that time five of my children were safely enrolled in Lodi schools.
My reason for foregoing any semblance of anonymity was because of the disruption from a small faction of posters who became obsessed with guessing who I might be "posing" as. Rather than embolden them in their silly quest, I decided to just sign my name. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 9:48 AM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 9:45 AM:
Really... what kind of person posts such a thing? "
Lodian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 9:41 AM:
Brian wrote (Sep 15, 2009 8:22 PM), "Get off my back BITCH! You're really becoming an irritant. Your pathetic little rants are becoming old and tiresome. Why don't you just leave these bloggs and maybe your ilk will go too. You must be quite miserable to have to disrupt every blog with your childish antics. Go away BITCH!!!!!!!!"
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Brian: Are these the writing skills you're boasting about? "
Brian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 8:54 AM:
Brian wrote on Sep 18, 2009 8:51 AM:
" Brian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 8:15 AM:
" Lodian's deluding again.
Besides, we've all seen her offerings and what she may call her writing skills are not "all that". "
Hmmm... let's take a look at your "offerings", Brian.
continued... "
-Well folks, there you have it. Lodian is now deluding that my posts are delusional. "
edumacation wrote on Sep 18, 2009 8:26 AM:
Perhaps I should apply to California State University at Fullerton (an Oxymoron?) to pursue a degree in Chicana/o studies?
I could have ACORN help me with the paperwork even though I am NOT a pimpette.
Wade and I could take these Chicana/o courses and report back to everyone.
I like the class Chicana/o -340 "Mexican/Chicana/o intellectual thought." Notice they had to sneak in the word "Mexican". There are many talented and productive MEXICAN intellectuals. Sadly , I know of no Chicana/o equals.
The weird spelling with the gender specific noun using suffix "a" or "o" is the way it is in the college catalogue. Very cumbersome.
I wonder how they solve the issue of G/L/B/T/ Transgendered Chicanas/o's?
http://www.fullerton.edu/catalog/academic_departments/chic.asp#courses
Thank you "political correctness".
Wade---think about it. We can both be Chicanistas? Or Chicanistos?
At least we can have some home grown Lodi style "Chicanismo"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicanismo
I'll have mine with arroz con gandules!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNKhAdQaeSs "
edumacation wrote on Sep 18, 2009 7:26 AM:
You are using another liberal debate trick. You label anyone who disagrees with you with a label that is hated.
First of all, I am a card carrying California Democrat (NOT an ACORN Socialist -Progressive)
I am NOT a Klanswoman---that is a hate group.
It is NOT yet illegal (Obamanation is trying) to think for yourself. I know the concept of free speech alludes liberals, but any attitude I want to have is LEGAL. I do NOT have to meet your narrow standards of political correctness.
The answer is "Not AKIA". "
voter wrote on Sep 18, 2009 6:19 AM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 11:22 PM:
You already have. ;-) "
edumacation wrote on Sep 17, 2009 11:04 PM:
edumacation wrote on Sep 17, 2009 11:03 PM:
These are real classes. LOL "
Cogito wrote on Sep 17, 2009 9:37 PM:
dyan wrote on Sep 17, 2009 3:26 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 10:46 AM:
jeff wrote on Sep 16, 2009 12:39 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 10:45 AM:
Well said. I agree. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 10:44 AM:
" Those who do not enjoy Mr. Heath's work should quietly read something else. "
"Hell, no, we won't go!"
lol
Seriously, these forums are for OPINIONS! Get it? These boards are not for all that are in agreement only. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 10:40 AM:
" Lodian's deluding again.
Besides, we've all seen her offerings and what she may call her writing skills are not "all that". "
Hmmm... let's take a look at your "offerings", Brian.
continued... "
1 voice wrote on Sep 16, 2009 9:11 AM:
Wade's a young guy, but the merit of his arguments has nothing to do with age...I've seen younger do better. I've read Wade's stuff on and off for years, and I believe many of his arguments are unfounded or built off of incomplete statements and opinions based on inaccurate facts. He can express the SAME beliefs with much more success by doing a little more research, documented interviews with CONFIRMED sources (as opposed to "an unnamed teenager, Australian visitor or LHS parent") and more truly thought-provoking columns. I know he's a columnist and not a journalist, but he seems to want to have serious discussions on serious matters...so he needs to do the serious thinking and working that is required for success. It's not about his politics-he's performing surgery with a machete. If he focused on provoking thought and conversation instead of just passion/anger (admittedly lower hanging fruit), I think he'd be amazed at the results. I know I would be. "
Brian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 8:23 AM:
" It's not so much what he's writing, but the broad, inaccurate brushstrokes he makes. If the points were lucid, thought-provoking or backed up with actual facts, this column could be a great forum for intelligent discussion. As is, it comes across as rabblerousing. For everyone who chews gristle and calls it a meal, it suffices.
So stop talking about the First Amendment...critics aren't telling him he can't express views. They just wish he'd do so intelligently or with the full gravity these issues deserve. "
-It couldn't possibly be that he's such a young person and he could never have such a broad view of life and issues?
Huh 1voice? "
Brian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 8:20 AM:
Brian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 8:16 AM:
" Jerome R. Kinderman: It's not fair of you to ask someone to post the writings/offerings they've published, or written to the editor, because they may be in the same shoes you were in here.
-The Word of Lodian "
Brian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 8:15 AM:
Besides, we've all seen her offerings and what she may call her writing skills are not "all that". "
sparky595 wrote on Sep 16, 2009 6:17 AM:
Great American Trucker wrote on Sep 16, 2009 6:03 AM:
ttian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 12:26 AM:
". . .but the idea that virtually anyone who disagrees with him or his policies is innately racist is just plain silly."
That is silly,"anyone" but fact is that many in number may and do lean to disagree with Obama just to disagree with Obama, because they are not comfortable with a Black President. Like teenagers when decide they don't like someone for silly reasons, then everything that person says is no good in any way, even if it is, just to be in opposition and fault find to justify themselves. But, it's going to continue, people don't change their "issues" easily. Wish they would, such constant negativity is such a hard life and karma. "
ttian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 12:08 AM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 9:39 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 9:32 PM:
Whoa Nellie! wrote on Sep 15, 2009 8:40 PM:
" Oh, by the way Veritas - I happen to be a writer with contributions to national publications. I think I have the qualifications to assess Mr. Heath's writing.
Mr. Year, your fantasy writings to Penthouse and Playboy do not count.
As for Wade's time at CSUF, this young man is working full time, supporting himself almost entirely from what I understand, and taking classes. And he's moved up the corporate ladder fairly quickly I hear too. "
napa valley chef wrote on Sep 15, 2009 7:18 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 15, 2009 3:21 PM:
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 15, 2009 1:31 PM:
President Obama's ascendancy was supposed to put an end to racism in the United States. Now, I was never naive enough to believe that he could pull this off; but the idea that virtually anyone who disagrees with him or his policies is innately racist is just plain silly. And the comments posted on September 14, 2009 at 8:57 PM fall precisely within that category. "
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 15, 2009 1:19 PM:
Nevertheless, this is what I've come to expect from the LNS's open forum. "
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 15, 2009 12:54 PM:
dyan wrote on Sep 15, 2009 11:08 AM:
1voice wrote on Sep 15, 2009 10:47 AM:
So stop talking about the First Amendment...critics aren't telling him he can't express views. They just wish he'd do so intelligently or with the full gravity these issues deserve. "
election year wrote on Sep 15, 2009 10:15 AM:
election year wrote on Sep 15, 2009 10:10 AM:
dyan wrote on Sep 15, 2009 7:10 AM:
Mainframe wrote on Sep 14, 2009 10:21 PM:
veritas wrote on Sep 14, 2009 9:03 PM:
election year wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:57 PM:
Unfortunately, Wade's writings have not matured with age. Aside from the fact that his ramblings are consistently racist (certainly his right to whatever opinion he cares to espouse), he is simply unskilled at writing a coherent op-ed piece backed by facts, substantiated by real information. I personally don't care what opinions he chooses to expound upon - but please, write something that is well researched, not something pulled out of thin air or a regurgitation of what Wade's heroes have spewed. "
Whoa Nellie wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:42 PM:
dyan wrote on Sep 14, 2009 7:58 PM:
freespeech4 wrote on Sep 14, 2009 7:26 PM:
Gator wrote on Sep 14, 2009 7:03 PM:
At the school of hard knocks he may or may not get it…Till then give
The “KID” a break he’s trying… Don’t like what he writes don’t read it. "
veritas wrote on Sep 14, 2009 6:30 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:51 PM:
" veritas wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:16 PM:
" Attn, Lodian: Huh? Are you all there ? What a pointless answer. Good journalism IS a thing of the past. OK. Give me three current examples; today, yesterday etc---of good journalism in a newspaper. "
My point, Jerome, was that you do not seem to require much of the writer/journalist or yourself and your offerings. " "
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:52 PM:
" I'm going to guess that Lodian's idea of good journalism is MSNBC and the New York Times. "
I like to keep you guessing. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:51 PM:
" Attn, Lodian: Huh? Are you all there ? What a pointless answer. Good journalism IS a thing of the past. OK. Give me three current examples; today, yesterday etc---of good journalism in a newspaper. "
My point, Jerome, was that you do not seem to require much of the writer/journalist or yourself and your offerings. "
sparky595 wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:38 PM:
veritas wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:16 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 4:01 PM:
"Welcome to the world of journalism. Love you or hate you, people are obviously reading your articles."
Is that all that's important? I guess good journalism/writing is a thing of the past for you. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 3:48 PM:
" T & C - your 7:40 AM post makes good sense. And that's precisely why very few will follow your advice. Rather than attempt to join a debate using logic and facts, they (including Mr. Nardinelli in his letter here) resort to sophomoric snipes and personal attacks as they try to bring down those with whom they disagree. Such tactics rarely result in anything of substance, but it is often fun to watch them trip all over themselves. "
Jerome: This is exactly what you do all too often. And we watch you "trip" a lot. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 3:46 PM:
" I hope Tom isn't going to begin complaining about EVERY other writer at LNS for one thing or another? If ya don't like what someone writes, here is a clue: "Don't read their articles! End of story! "
Time for you and Jerome to take your own advice. "
Whoa Nellie! wrote on Sep 14, 2009 3:32 PM:
Tom takes a pot-shot at Wade's apperance on the Dr. Phil Show. Tom, get a life- what was that, 7yrs ago? Wade was about 14-15 I believe. "
veritas wrote on Sep 14, 2009 3:14 PM:
reader09 wrote on Sep 14, 2009 2:43 PM:
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 14, 2009 1:40 PM:
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 14, 2009 1:38 PM:
realist wrote on Sep 14, 2009 1:31 PM:
T&C: I try not to read Wade's articles, but I just have to see what nonsense he is pontificating about now. The same thing could be said about you: You have too much time on your hands. You have a blog posted on just about every story everyday. Give it a rest.
Ha! Ha! Ha! Stella, I would think he would have to be related to the owner too, to have his "articles" published. "
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 14, 2009 1:26 PM:
Is it possible that others might have their own independent set of ideas; or must there be some sort of familial conspiracy afoot? "
LeonaM wrote on Sep 14, 2009 12:13 PM:
sparky595 wrote on Sep 14, 2009 9:12 AM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:47 AM:
Stella wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:01 AM:
gray cloud wrote on Sep 14, 2009 7:44 AM:
T & C wrote on Sep 14, 2009 7:40 AM:
T & C wrote on Sep 14, 2009 7:38 AM:
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