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America doesn't need health insurance reform
Saturday, September 12, 2009 7:12 AM PDT
America will miss Ted Kennedy in the United States Senate. He worked all his life to get health care to every American.
Why should we have to have health insurance when what we really need is health care? These huge insurance firms only care about the profit. Any debate about health care reform needs to talk about the problems of these huge health insurance firms who lied to Presidents Johnson and Carter when they promised to keep costs under control.
Let's talk about insurance firms who drop people when they get sick. Let's talk about insurance firm bean counters denying claims because its not cost-effective.
I don't want to hear talks about health insurance reform. I want to hear about real health care reform and getting health care to all Americans. Why can't we buy into a public option for all Americans?
If would be fitting to pass health care reform as a tribute to Ted Kennedy and name it the Ted Kennedy Health Care Reform Bill.
It's not the people who come first with these huge insurance firms, it's the profit they can make.
America doesn't need health insurance; America needs health care. Reform health care now and honor Ted Kennedy. Since 2007, the cost of health insurance has gone up 400 percent. In five to 10 years, workers will be told that they either no longer have their health insurance at their work place, or they have less insurance and will pay more. In five or 10 more years, those who like the insurance they have today will not be able to afford it.
What do these insurance firms provide us but increases in our insurance every year? We don't need heath insurance; we need health care.
Arne Aasen
Lodi
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Lodian wrote on Sep 17, 2009 10:48 AM:
" Lodian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 10:58 AM:
" "the fire dept wont cost you a dime."
Yes, they won't hand you a bill when they arrive to save you from alcohol poisoning. They will save your butt regardless. "
-Lodian stilll doesn't understand that the fire dept gets their funding from local, state, and government coffers that we pay taxes into. "
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I repeat... "They won't hand you a bill when they arrive to save you from alcohol poisoning, "Brian". They will save your butt regardless. Sorry you are having trouble with comprehension, again. "
Brian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 7:56 PM:
Brian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 7:56 PM:
" "the fire dept wont cost you a dime."
Yes, they won't hand you a bill when they arrive to save you from alcohol poisoning. They will save your butt regardless. "
-Lodian stilll doesn't understand that the fire dept gets their funding from local, state, and government coffers that we pay taxes into. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 11:01 AM:
That's what President Obama is talking about, Arne. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 10:58 AM:
Yes, they won't hand you a bill when they arrive to save you from alcohol poisoning. They will save your butt regardless. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 10:53 AM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 10:47 AM:
"One man's rants, exposes another with no pants"
Brian has embarrassed himself enough, please don't encourage the no pants thing with him now. EEEK! lol
(bad visual!) "
Brian wrote on Sep 16, 2009 8:56 AM:
" I see that Brian is having comprehension problems again. "
-It finally occured to me. Lodian was right. I did not see the sarcasm when voter said the fire dept wont cost you a dime. Just like I didn't see the sarcasm when Obama said his health care plan won't cost us a dime. "
rantraves wrote on Sep 16, 2009 8:02 AM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 10:01 PM:
Brian: I wouldn't touch that back with a 10 foot pole. lol "
Lodian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 9:51 PM:
Brian: Your true character shines through, again. "
Brian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 8:22 PM:
" I see that Brian is having comprehension problems again. "
-Get off my back BITCH! You're really becoming an irritant. Your pathetic little rants are becoming old and tiresome. Why don't you just leave these bloggs and maybe your ilk will go too. You must be quite miserable to have to disrupt every blog with your
childish antics. Go away BITCH!!!!!!!! "
Robb wrote on Sep 15, 2009 12:39 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 8:47 AM:
What "price", Jerome? "
Lodian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 8:47 AM:
Brian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 8:17 AM:
Brian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 8:12 AM:
Most local and state services such as police and fire are bankrupting their cities.
-And the stimulous money that may eventually bail them out couldn't possibly be something the taxpayer will be billed for according to Voter. "
Brian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 8:09 AM:
" vertias, I hope that you do not need to call the fire department, but if you do, they will arrive promptly and not charge you a dime.
-Another lie from a liberal. The Fire Dept is part of the city government and the city government gets money from the federal and state governments that the has in turn come from taxpayers. Nice try Voter. But your notion that we don't pay for the fire dept is flat wrong. "
Brian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 8:03 AM:
" Ha, Ha, Veritas! Splitting hairs between federal, state and local government services...Give us all a break. Government is government - it doesn't matter what level.
As for all of those who revel in disparaging the late Senator Kennedy, what are YOUR contributions to society? Have YOU made any real contributions to our society? Has your family sacrificed any of THEIR members? Probably not. And if both of your brothers were shot down, MURDERED, might not you indulge a little too generously in alcohol? Ask yourself, and if the answer is no, consider yourself a saint (and a hypocrite).
-And for those who never forgave Teddy
for being so irresponsible when he drove his car into the water and killed
his lady friend because he decided to indulge a little too generously in alcohol. Are they hypocrites too? "
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 3:39 PM:
" Ha, Ha, Veritas! Splitting hairs between federal, state and local government services...Give us all a break. Government is government - it doesn't matter what level."
veritas/Jerome seems to be looking for a way out of his earlier comments. "
Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Sep 14, 2009 2:04 PM:
Is this why you switched from "StanTaves" to "rantraves?" You wanted to be vile? Or, maybe it's because you realized how dumb it is to post under your real name.
It's probably because rantraves just fits you to a tee, thanks to Billy R. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 12:50 PM:
Wow! Great blog, election year! "
Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 12:48 PM:
Are you looking in the mirror? "
rantraves wrote on Sep 14, 2009 7:09 AM:
voter wrote on Sep 14, 2009 6:39 AM:
election year wrote on Sep 13, 2009 10:21 PM:
As for all of those who revel in disparaging the late Senator Kennedy, what are YOUR contributions to society? Have YOU made any real contributions to our society? Has your family sacrificed any of THEIR members? Probably not. And if both of your brothers were shot down, MURDERED, might not you indulge a little too generously in alcohol? Ask yourself, and if the answer is no, consider yourself a saint (and a hypocrite). "
veritas wrote on Sep 13, 2009 9:58 PM:
voter wrote on Sep 13, 2009 7:12 PM:
veritas wrote on Sep 13, 2009 5:41 PM:
rantraves wrote on Sep 13, 2009 4:45 PM:
Gator wrote on Sep 13, 2009 4:22 PM:
Who greesed the skids and gave them no bid contracts…Halliburtons latest
contract (2007) 722 million which by the way will include KBR payed
for by you and me…The Iraqis money still pilling up in their banks..My
Point we know who ran the show in 2007, so there is graft and corruption
In both partys… "
Gator wrote on Sep 13, 2009 4:02 PM:
some in Afghanistan.. Lots of the drivers have been killed and wounded
In ambushes. Some have and continue to suffer with terrible wounds
and amputations. My point, simple AIG continues to give poor or no
payment for these people like they are so much trash. They don’t give
a damn when it screws with the profit margin.. Look at the three. Look
familiar ?? It should they have been shafting the Government and the
American tax payer for about 9 years now… "
dogs4you wrote on Sep 13, 2009 2:05 PM:
ttian, yes the Permanente Medical Group is run for profit, Kaiser is not. The doctor`s make up the Medical Group and are seperate from Kaiser. The doctors work out of a pot of money and know their salary before hand, unlike private doctors that see as many patients as possible on a daily basis in order to cover the enormass over head of being in private practice, their malpractice insurance is overwellming.
Kaiser was started by H. J. Kaiser for his workers in SF that worked building liberty ships in WW11. His forcite started the Kaiser orgination, also had a good car named after him, the Henry J. "
gray cloud wrote on Sep 13, 2009 12:47 PM:
ttian wrote on Sep 13, 2009 11:45 AM:
people with health insurance.
Administrative costs account for 31 percent of all health care expenditures in the United
States. The average overhead for U.S. private health insurers is 11.7 percent; for
Medicare, it is 3.6 percent; for Canada’s national health insurance program, it is 1.3
percent.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/_media/SiCKO_sickofactoids.pdf "
ttian wrote on Sep 13, 2009 11:44 AM:
LARGEST HEALTH CARE FRAUD CASE IN U.S. HISTORY SETTLED
HCA INVESTIGATION NETS RECORD TOTAL OF $1.7 BILLION
WASHINGTON, D.C. - HCA Inc. (formerly known as Columbia/HCA and HCA - The Healthcare Company) has agreed to pay the United States $631 million in civil penalties and damages arising from false claims the government alleged it submitted to Medicare and other federal health programs, the Justice Department announced . . . "
ttian wrote on Sep 13, 2009 11:41 AM:
Ehrlichman: “… private enterprise one.”
President Nixon: “Well, that appeals to me.”
Ehrlichman: “Edgar Kaiser is running his Permanente deal for profit. And the reason that he can … the reason he can do it … I had Edgar Kaiser come in … talk to me about this and I went into it in some depth. All the incentives are toward less medical care, because …”
President Nixon: [Unclear.]
Ehrlichman: “… the less care they give them, the more money they make.”
President Nixon: “Fine.” [Unclear.]
Ehrlichman: [Unclear] “… and the incentives run the right way.”
President Nixon: “Not bad.”
[Source: University of Virginia Check - February 17, 1971, 5:26 pm - 5:53 pm, Oval Office Conversation 450-23. Look for: tape rmn_e450c.]
http://millercenter.virginia.edu/scripps/digitalarchive/presidentialrecordings
/nixon/oval?PHPSESSID=b813e56b3017d097cd176720bc10fc74
Retrieved from "http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Transcript_of_taped_conversation_between_President_Richard_Nixon_and_John_D._Ehrlichman_(1971)_that_led_to_the_HMO_act_of_1973:" "
jbhiker wrote on Sep 13, 2009 7:08 AM:
Now let's recap - what is AIG?
Answer: In the United States, AIG is the largest underwriter of commercial and industrial insurance. aka Health Insurance. "
alf wrote on Sep 12, 2009 5:18 PM:
dogs4you wrote on Sep 12, 2009 12:39 PM:
sparky595 wrote on Sep 12, 2009 11:18 AM:
http://www.onecitizenspeaking.com/2009/08/the-truth-about-ted-kennedy-soviet-collaborator-acting-against-fellow-american-politicians.html
In a nutshell, he was circumventing Reagan during the cold war with russia, and offering advise to the russians on how to deal with Reagan. "
sparky595 wrote on Sep 12, 2009 11:03 AM:
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/10/obama-speech-fact-check/ "
sparky595 wrote on Sep 12, 2009 10:33 AM:
sparky595 wrote on Sep 12, 2009 10:28 AM:
steve wrote on Sep 12, 2009 9:51 AM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 12, 2009 8:44 AM:
jramagic wrote on Sep 12, 2009 7:59 AM:
Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Sep 12, 2009 7:29 AM:
The so-called "lion" of the Senate was nothing more than a thug. All one need do is review the way he treated people from his chair as they were subjected to his anger and vitriolic language.
As for healthcare, is it any wonder that for all of the praise now being heaped upon Ted Kennedy in death, he did very little to further his passion while he was alive. And now we're supposed to push through President Obama's idea of reform simply to honor one of this nation's most repulsive and dishonorable men to occupy a Senate seat? How could we have sunk so far? "
sparky595 wrote on Sep 12, 2009 6:29 AM:
The problem is the 12 - 15 million people that are not covered but do want to be. Let's do what we can to cover them, and find ways to reform the current healthcare system to lower costs. I don't want to see the entire system thrown away just so the government can have control over our healthcare.
Obama is on record in past interviews stating that in his perfect world, a govt. run single payer system is what he favors. That is why they will start with a public option. Then it is just a matter of time before everyone will be forced into govt. controlled healthcare. I am tired of them taking over everything. "
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