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Has President trumped parental rights?


Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:34 AM PDT

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In response to President Obama's plan to address America's school kids today, Tempe, Ariz., Superintendent of schools Dr. Arthur Tate Jr. stated, "I have directed principals to have students and teachers view the president's message. ... I am not permitting parents to opt out students from viewing the president's message, since this is a purely educational event."

(http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/03/parents-object-obamas-national-address-students)

The superintendent of schools is "not permitting parents to opt out students"? Just what country do we now find ourselves living in, where parents are prohibited from deciding what their children will or will not be exposed to? Are we to believe that the President of the United States has now trumped parental rights?

This is beyond disturbing; it's simply outrageous! I am thankful that I no longer have children enrolled in our public school system, although if I did, I would not hesitate to keep them home out of principle.

Yet from what was recently released to accompany this intrusion into America's classrooms, I would suggest that parents seriously consider keeping their children away from school on that date based solely on the substance of the subject matter to be presented. Is it any surprise then that the White House was forced to backtrack on their original plan; that once again hardly an intelligent thought was considered prior to moving forward with this politically motivated idea?

Since January of this year, we have witnessed the kind of change that most of us had believed could never occur in the United States of America: astronomical spending; corporate bailouts and takeovers resulting in the firing of CEOs at the behest of the President of the United States; an incredibly overreaching health care bill that will certainly nearly bankrupt our country — and that's just for starters!

Now President Obama's czars are being exposed as the clearly radical and anti-American thugs that they are yet given carte blanche in furtherance of this president's obvious socialist agenda.

We've progressed well beyond the point where we should all begin to wake up. We're getting into some very dangerous territory now, folks — it's time to take action!

Jerome R. Kinderman
Lodi

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Lodian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 10:13 PM:

" Is this you digressing, Brian?

Brian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 8:22 PM:
-Get off my back BITCH! You're really becoming an irritant. Your pathetic little rants are becoming old and tiresome. Why don't you just leave these bloggs and maybe your ilk will go too. You must be quite miserable to have to disrupt every blog with your
childish antics. Go away BITCH!!!!!!!!" "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 11:29 AM:

" Poor, Brian. No one wants to play with him. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 15, 2009 8:30 AM:

" Lodian,

I don't demand you answer any personal questions. you seem to be making things up as you go along.

What YOU have tried to sleeze your way out of is the fact that you won't even ackowledge the least bit,let Alone apologize, for your digressions and personal attacks. Yet you're on these bloggs demanding we hold ourselves accountable. YOU'RE WEIRD!!! "

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uncle stinky wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:08 PM:

" JRK have you boned a fat chick behind the dumpster at circle K? "

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edumacation wrote on Sep 14, 2009 6:46 PM:

" This is not a problem when you home school your kids. You have kinds of rights when you home school:

1) You have the right to take an IQ test. Some ethnic groups can NEVER be forced to take an intelligence test? Is these because of their high scores? LOL

2) Your kids do not have to be subjected to TNB whether its from admistrators, educrats or students.

Some people are now calling TNB, KWB. Ahh the HIGH standards. NOT!

Public school academic and behavior standards are under carpet. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 12:45 PM:

" sparky595 wrote "As I respectfully walk away from this topic..."

spakler: What are you talking about? LOL! You have never respectfully done anything here. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 12:43 PM:

" Every school should have played President Obama’s address to schoolchildren. If they were unable to show it live at school then it should have definitely been shown later. If your child did not see the address at school then I suggest playing it at home. It is available at, www.whitehouse.gov, and well worth the time to watch with your children. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 12:28 PM:

" sparkle: If you can't take the heat then get out of the room. And if you can't even take a fraction of what you dish out then that's your problem. I thought I said, "Off with your head!" "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 14, 2009 9:18 AM:

" As I respectfully walk away from this topic, I knew I could count on Lodian to launch one last personal attack towards me. Thanks for showing your colors once again. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 9:02 AM:

" Gotta run for now... CIAO! "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 9:01 AM:

" sparky595 wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:58 AM:

" Over 200 posts on this page and I see that we have definitely gotten off track"

Yes, so stop trying to derail this blog because no one else agrees with you (except your other handles). Either hold your own on this issue or slink away and lick your wounds.

I thought I said, "Off with your heads!"

Now where are my people?

lol! "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:58 AM:

" Your comment was inappropriate, Brian. I recently attended a funeral. You make a fool of yourself every time you make a comment. And, no, I am under no obligation to address any of your personal questions. It is beyond creepy how you dig into the personal lives of others here on these boards and demand the answers to personal questions. Maybe it's to make yourself feel better, so you don't feel alone in your insanity, or you're just a creepy guy... maybe all of the above. You can ask all you like, but only people I respect may get an answer to personal questions and it won't happen on an anonymous public forum. You're weird. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:58 AM:

" Over 200 posts on this page and I see that we have definitely gotten off track of the subject and have run out of things to say. Lodian, I look forward to debating the next topic with you, however, I am done with this one which has become nothing more than personal mudslinging. I need a shower. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:53 AM:

" Sorry Lodian,

I digressed. Boy it feels good to hold myself accountable. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:51 AM:

" Lodian wrote:

stop digging for compliments and sympathy.

-You're the last person ANYONE should expect to get any compliments or sympathy from. What was that I heard
you throw rocks at ANY hearse you see in a funeral procession? "

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Brian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:47 AM:

" It would help Lodian immensely here if she were to admit that she digresses. It only makes it that much more difficult on her to continue to deny she has done anything wrong.

I wholly acknowledge that at times I may say things that are inappropriate and will strive to keep them out of these bloggs. Boy it feels good to hold my self accountable. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:41 AM:

" The only ones digressing here are Brian and sparky and you want to take others here down that road too, then enjoy the "AHA!" when pointing the finger as if you've been on point. Bologna! Get a grip, dudes. Brian... stop digging for compliments and sympathy. It's pathetic and way off topic. No one cares that you seek someone in the same boat as you and your way of thinking here. You're alone, deal with it, and stop these pathetic requests for companionship. Go seek your "strokes" somewhere else. This is a message board for news of the day, not your personal stop for constant warm fuzzies. And sparkler, if you don't see my on topic comments below then you're blind, as well as ignorant. Now, off with your heads! lol! "

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Brian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:31 AM:

" Two good examples of lodian's pomposity.




Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 9:26 AM:

" Brian is a lost cause. I think we care more about his children than he does. Sad. "


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Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 9:26 AM:

" Jerome Kinderman wrote "I am thankful that I no longer have children enrolled in our public school system, although if I did, I would not hesitate to keep them home out of principle."

The president addressed schoolchildren yesterday with encouraging words as school gets started this year. Now, on what principle would you possibly see fit to keep a child home from school yesterday? JRK, you sound more like a nut every time you write another letter. This doesn't make any sense. You are falling into the trap of all those that run around saying, "The sky is falling!" Start thinking for yourself an maybe you'll have a chance to remain sane. Hopefully there's still time to save yourself, but it's questionable. " "

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Brian wrote on Sep 14, 2009 8:26 AM:

" Lodian makes it a habit of overlooking her personal attacks. She could at least admit that she digresses at times.
I have admitted my digressions. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 14, 2009 5:57 AM:

" Lodian, you can put another rambling statement out there if you want. I still look back on all of your posts and you rarely have any opinion about the topic. You only post to attack what someone else says. You had 13 straight posts that did just that.

You say that I like to put personal attack posts up. Can you point those out for me? Remember, I just pointed out 13 in a row from you (and I stopped looking at that point. I could of kept looking.). "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 13, 2009 9:37 PM:

" sparky wrote "I looked back on YOUR last 13 posts and all YOU did was comment on what someone else said, or attack someone's view. Not 1 thing pertinent about the topic at hand."

sparky: Obviously you are lacking in your reading and comprehension skills. My posts were all on topic. When one addresses another here it can be called debate or discussion. I know you like to post your "statements" and personal attacks here, but some of us actually discuss, debate and/or add personal views to the blogs. Sometimes we even have fun and interject humor along the way. This may all be foreign to you, but try it sometime... if you are able. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 13, 2009 7:57 PM:

" Lodian makes it a habit of overlooking my pertinent posts, Sparky. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 13, 2009 7:53 PM:

" Sparky,

My last post was sarcasm. Obviously you didn't pick up on that.

Brian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 7:54 AM:

-This post will explain the sarcasm. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 13, 2009 5:43 PM:

" In my 4:24 post, my "last 13 post" comment was directed toward Lodian, not you, Brian. I hope you didn't take offense. Lodian doesn't comment on the issues. She just attacks people's comments. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 13, 2009 5:35 PM:

" No,

I suppose making it possible to purchase health ins, across state lines
isn't pertinent to Lodian. Even if it means a 30% savings. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 13, 2009 4:24 PM:

" Lodian wrote "A rhetorical question... Does Brian ever have anything pertinent to say about the topic at hand?"

I looked back on YOUR last 13 posts and all YOU did was comment on what someone else said, or attack someone's view. Not 1 thing pertinent about the topic at hand. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 13, 2009 3:55 PM:

" A rhetorical question... Does Brian ever have anything pertinent to say about the topic at hand? "

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Brian wrote on Sep 13, 2009 8:19 AM:

" A rhetorical question:

Why do liberals always make a mockery
of things they come in contact with. "

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DOGBARK wrote on Sep 12, 2009 5:00 PM:

" Well, neither Bryan nor Wickster answered about the employees COBRA cost once terminated. Guess there is a big gaping hole in the 'success' story after all. "

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Gator wrote on Sep 12, 2009 11:22 AM:

" Hate mongering by anyone or trying to install fear is despicable but nothing
New.. Jefferson and Adams had a brouhaha that would equal most anything
going on to day and that was with out media like we have now. Jefferson and Adams stopped speaking to one another till just before Jefferson’s Death.. The thing is for people to sort the good from bad, the Truth from
Fiction.. Times have been far worse. We helped make the mess. We need to
Fixit and with out governments help… "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 12, 2009 8:49 AM:

" Gator wrote "What I have been saying is I don’t believe either far right or left have ever done anything for this country “nothing”. It’s just plain every
day Americans that make America great." Well said, Gator. I would not be surprised if an independent or other party rises to seriously challenge the democrats and republicans who have failed us for so long. "

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Gator wrote on Sep 12, 2009 8:32 AM:

" Rhodie ,What I have been saying is I don’t believe either far right or left have ever done anything for this country “nothing”. It’s just plain every
day Americans that make America great. When you get out of California
You will find as many Democrats against Gun Control as Republicans.
at least in Montana, Wyoming , Colorado Utah and Idaho. "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 11, 2009 10:20 PM:

" Bob, you can't be done thanking me already. "

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Robb wrote on Sep 11, 2009 8:21 PM:

" Well, then that explains it jeff.... "

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Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Sep 11, 2009 7:04 PM:

" Can't refute kook talk...

Stan, I do thank you for the daily belly laughs. You remind me of some of the crazies that Bob Wilkins used to interview. He tolerated them because they made his audience laugh. They laughed AT the crazies Stan, just like most here laugh at you. "

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Rhodie wrote on Sep 11, 2009 5:43 PM:

" Gator wrote on Sep 11, 2009 11:41 AM:

" Still not one of the so called Neo-cons has the knowledge to answer what has a Conservative done for America"

I believe several thousand of them have died to preserve our freedoms through their military service since the beginning of the US through today. The thousands of Conservatives in the top 2% of the nations wealthiest pay many millions to charities to help the less fortunate/schools and local programs. Many fortune 500 conservative business owners employee millions of American workers. Conservatives fought for our right to own a gun when the Demo's wanted to take them away (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_position_of_the_Democratic_Party_on_gun_control.)

Of course Liberals have made many of the same contributions (minus the gun control). Rather than bickering over how useless one is over the other useless one, maybe we should be working together to be the United states with common goals rather than the Untied States with everyone bickering over who is the ideaologically master party. "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 11, 2009 3:57 PM:

" Gator may need your help Bob; but even if you threw in Billy, Jeff, voter, and Lodian it wouldn't be enough. I make principled arguments that have yet to be refuted; I make philosophical assertions that you can't begin to understand; and still I have the compassion to put up with the likes of you -- you want to thank me, now don't you? "

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Gator wrote on Sep 11, 2009 3:45 PM:

" Sonny boy is your mind slipped further down the drain?? There was no last
time.. That is unless it’s your alter ego Brian.. Sonny boy your just a light
weight relying on your talk radio hacks to feed you their babble so you
Can parrot it out to your buddies. No one else gives a Rats A++.. Sonny Boy
you about five foot one and 115 ringing wet?? That’s how you come across. "

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Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Sep 11, 2009 1:06 PM:

" I am cracking up a Stan Stan the Rant Man's bravado.

How can anyone mix it up with you if nobody can understand what the hell you're saying? Quit speaking Martian in your rants Stan Stan the Rant Man! "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 11, 2009 12:23 PM:

" Gator, you don't really want mix it up with me do you? I mean after the last time, there's only enough of you left to make a wallet -- a very empty wallet. "

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Gator wrote on Sep 11, 2009 11:41 AM:

" Still not one of the so called Neo-cons has the knowledge to answer what has a Conservative done for America.. I see rantraves using Brian’s Buzz
words also could it be we have a 3rd alter ego … "

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Gator wrote on Sep 11, 2009 11:35 AM:

" rantraves, Ah the intellectually challenged raises it’s pathetic little head.. Sonny you shouldn’t let your Crocodile mouth overload your Canary A+*… "

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1143 wrote on Sep 11, 2009 8:41 AM:

" Emperor O'Bama wishes to control everything from your thoughts to your pocket-book.
In 8 short months we have seen the beginning of a socialistic country that will be run by O'Bama,Axelrod,Emanuel,Holder and (Tax-Cheat) Geithner. Of course, the ACORN organization will be huge and paying out taxpayers money to the "dis-advantage".
It is already time to begin campaigning to "CHANGE" the political climate in Washington to one "WE CAN BELIEVE IN". I am not suggesting either Democratic or Republican........I am suggesting we get back to Democracy/Patriotism and away from Socialist/Communist standards.
Tell a friend: Time to get rid of O'Bama/Pelosi and the rest of the heart-bleeders. "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 11, 2009 7:25 AM:

" Yes Gator, and quite often your posts are a reflection of how you are "loaded". "

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Gator wrote on Sep 11, 2009 7:20 AM:

" Well Brian there is no doubt in my mind he would have been ousted sooner
than Later. As for Rasmussen, Poles are dependent on how the questions are
Loaded. They are like statistics they can be adjusted to prove or disprove any given point of view.. That is why The Pew Research center is more
thorough than a simple question and answer Pole…The country is Centrist
And Obama knows he must move that way to survive.. I have asked the
question time and time again and have never gotten an answer. What has a
conservative ever done for this Country??? The last eight years have been
a bloody disaster Close to 5000 troops dead and for what? Nothing has changed. The truth be known it really was for their Oil…Now Afghanistan!
I see cut and run,,, Since WWII we have a habit of never finishing what we start… "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 11, 2009 6:53 AM:

" Gator, if it were not for Glenn Beck exposing Van Jones last week, he would still be our green jobs czar. As an American, you should be glad that Jones is gone. Unless of course you you condone self proclaimed communist and black nationalist being a top advisor to the president of the United States of America. Jones also made statements accusing white environmentalist of poisoning people of color. I for one am glad we have someone like Beck looking out for our country. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 11, 2009 6:47 AM:

" Jeff wrote " YOU are conservative and many that you know are conservatives, but you do not make up the entire population or political idealogy of these united states."

Let me start by saying I voted for Clinton twice, and did not vote for Bush either time he won. Also, according to a Rasmussan Reports Poll, 40% of Americans consider themselves conservative while only 21% consider themselves liberal. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 11, 2009 12:42 AM:

" Giovanina wrote "There was no lesson plan when Bush addressed the students."


Oh.... there's just so much material here. Where to start? lol! "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 10, 2009 8:46 PM:

" Jeff, I guess you missed my lesson on how liberal subordination to the conservative rule is how proper balance is maintained. You libs would love to believe that you are empowered by a higher -- more moral -- ideology; sorry but your power -- what little you have -- comes from those with the guts to go and fight for it. You libs live in a dream world that tells you everyone would be happier if only those competitive conservatives would just go away. Well Jeff, you better pray that we never "go away", because we're all you've got -- believe it! "

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Brian wrote on Sep 10, 2009 8:13 PM:

" Lodian wrote:

sparkler: Pay attention! FYI, this blog is about children, education and the president's address.

-And it's especially difficult to have a discussion on it when we are constantly bombarded with the image of Lodian deluding again. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 10, 2009 8:05 PM:

" Giovanina wrote:

Sorry that you just don't get it.

-The numerous times I see Lodian trying to comment on a given issue only to fail miserably, she picks herself up again to fail. Delusions of grandeur is a mental disorder. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 10, 2009 8:00 PM:

" Sparky595 wrote:
Why is he telling the students to read the books that he wrote about himself?

Not that we should deny Obama the opportunity to plug his books. But in a school speech? "

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Giovanina wrote on Sep 10, 2009 7:29 PM:

" Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:40 PM:

" Giovanina: What part of "optional" don't you understand? No one was told to do anything. It was/is all "optional". "

What part of "education as a state jurisdiction" do you not understand?

There never should have been anything to make an "option".

Feds, with the help of the NEA policy makers, have taken over our schools pushing "multiculturalism over academics". Sorry that you just don't get it. "

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Giovanina wrote on Sep 10, 2009 7:23 PM:

" Gator wrote on Sep 10, 2009 7:00 PM:

" Gave Sparky the lowdown on his Idol Glen Beck telling a less than truthful
Story. Verified by Snopes.com… I guess Silence is golden

It has already been proven that Snopes.com verification doesn't mean much just like the Southern Poverty Law Center. "

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Giovanina wrote on Sep 10, 2009 7:20 PM:

" The idea that the White House even created a lesson plan shows the underlying agenda. The Federal Education department is another overstepping of state power.

There was no lesson plan when Bush addressed the students.

Once again, factless mouths shooting off. "

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jeff wrote on Sep 10, 2009 7:18 PM:

" And in a set of comments centered around education, not knowing who sets policy is a pretty big mistake, especially when you are trying to lecture someone that you know more than they. I'm a member of the NEA, and a teacher in lusd. I probably have a better idea of what's going on than you think. "

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jeff wrote on Sep 10, 2009 7:16 PM:

" liberalism is not communism and our country is not and has never been wholly conservative. YOU are conservative and many that you know are conservatives, but you do not make up the entire population or political idealogy of these united states. nor has your political sect ever made up the entire US. Do not believe that speak for every citizen when you discount liberal ideas. Liberal is not a bad word, just as conservative is not. The two keep us balanced. Over the last 8 yrs (or even 28, it could be argued) our political pendulum has swung so far to the right, that people like you believe that's where it is supposed to be, but it is swinging back to the left, but it still hasn't hit center. "

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Gator wrote on Sep 10, 2009 7:00 PM:

" Gave Sparky the lowdown on his Idol Glen Beck telling a less than truthful
Story. Verified by Snopes.com… I guess Silence is golden…. "

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voter wrote on Sep 10, 2009 6:52 PM:

" Good call, Billy! Earlier in the week, he was Wickster. Why are you hiding, Bryan? "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 10, 2009 6:33 PM:

" LOL

Watch the writing style and the use of favorite buzz words, Lodian. "sparky595" is Brian's newest imaginary playmate. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 10, 2009 5:26 PM:

" sparky595 wrote "DO NOT bring our children into the conversation."

sparkler: Pay attention! FYI, this blog is about children, education and the president's address. "

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Gator wrote on Sep 10, 2009 5:07 PM:

" Question, what has any far right of center politician ever done for this Country ?? Gee Batman Nothing right?? Your right Robin not one tiny
little thing.. The Independent think tank Pew Research is reporting Obama
is swinging to the Center and at this point in time the whole country is
the most Centrist in it’s History… That leaves out Leftwing Loons and
Rightwingnuts…. I can think of 2 really good presidents with Cajones
Harry Truman and Teddy Roosevelt …. "

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IMO wrote on Sep 10, 2009 4:59 PM:

" some would prefer name calling than fact stating. potus and the first lady, as well as the entire administration are a shame to our country. i enjoy watching a little msnbc. it amuses me how they can keep a straight face while doing their so called reporting. how about the civilian army potus is proposing. how bout acorn, or apollo. please line up for your dose of kool-aid. it's for your safety and the good of the nation, PLEASE! oink oink H1N1 duck duck GOOSE your it. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 10, 2009 4:45 PM:

" Jeff, I made a honest mistake about the NEA and was a man and admitted it. Have you never mis-spoke before? You should get off of your attack mode and try Obama fact mode. He is a practicing marxist set on destroying the conservative values which America stands for. "

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Rhodie wrote on Sep 10, 2009 4:38 PM:

" jeff: It could be said that you know a man by the associations he keeps. I know noone is perfect but look at some of the people that Obama has decided to bring in as advisors. Aside from the crooks and deviants that every administration has had Obama has brought in an admitted Communist (who resigned when discovered) and two others who one has lobbied to get animals legal status to sue in courts http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/may/05/wayne-lapierre/sunstein-has-said-people-ought-be-able-sue-behalf-/ while the other is linked to a text book endorsing of forced population control (manditory abortions) http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/21/obamas-science-czar-considered-forced-abortions-sterilization-population-growth/ "

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Rhodie wrote on Sep 10, 2009 4:21 PM:

" In our morning routine as the kids eat breakfast I have the morning news going (bouncing between Fox and CNN). My oldest has started realizing that those in power, when faced with a question they don't like will talk without saying anything. Many times just over the past month we've had a good laugh over our trusted leaders evading questions by saying nothing. I think there needs to be a Current Politics section starting in the 9th grade (like every Friday in Social studies) where our kids can see the issues as they are happening and learn to recognize political double speak and the "games" politicians on both sides play with OUR trust. At least this way the next generation MIGHT have a better grasp of political deceit that goes on in todays world.

As for the Presidents speech to the students, I think what he delivered to the students wasn't what he was planning to say, but rather a watered down version to avoid more controversy. "

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jeff wrote on Sep 10, 2009 4:18 PM:

" so, you don't know what you're talking about, but we should listen to you. I think I'll wait until you educate yourself a little more. Need any help? "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 10, 2009 4:13 PM:

" Jeff, I stand corrected on the NEA. However, I have been educating myself on Obama's past and his philosophies about how he wants to "fundamentally change America" (his words). With his past and current radical associations, I would be concerned with anything he says to me, let alone my children. "

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jeff wrote on Sep 10, 2009 4:07 PM:

" radical. hehe "

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IMO wrote on Sep 10, 2009 4:01 PM:

" tin foil hat, i need one of those myself. hopefully it'll help keep the potus jedi mind tricks from working on me. the previous potus speakers weren't nearly as radical as bho. he and his wifes' opinions of what America wants and needs is far different than what i'd believe. don't drink the kool-aid! "

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jeff wrote on Sep 10, 2009 3:49 PM:

" the NEA is the government? they're a labor union. they do not make policy at any level. at most they're lobbyists.

passing over school boards to try and set agendas? you're kidding, right?

As far as worksheets, there is no way, NO WAY, for anyone, POTUS included, that set a goal of, let alone accomplish, mandatory "worksheets". Or even mandatory lesson plans. Neither can be accomplished in a single school, so forget about an entire distict, county, state, or nation.

And don't give me the "he changed it, he changed it" routine. It tends to echo off your tin foil hat. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 10, 2009 3:28 PM:

" You are correct. The government is in our schools. They are called the NEA. Through committees, they establish what is said and taught in our schools.

Now, the president (executive branch of our government) is trying to set agenda, by passing the committees and school boards that are in place to do so. You can call it just a speech like Bush gave in the 90's, however, obama at the last moment, (due to mounting concerns) pulled his worksheets that would have instructed children to write essays about "what they could do to help obama". What was that all about? "

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jeff wrote on Sep 10, 2009 3:08 PM:

" sparky, i think since about 1870 when public schools were created. Don't like it? Take your kids out of public, i.e. government run, schools. "

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IMO wrote on Sep 10, 2009 3:07 PM:

" this administration isn't doing anything good for our children, our parents, or our country. whether it's van jones, pelosi, or any of the other nuckle heads in dc, they don't live in the real world. let alone understand what the people of America need and or want. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 10, 2009 2:51 PM:

" I agree Robb. Since when in America did we start letting the government control what we expose our children to? Whether it be good or bad content is an opinion that will never be shared by 100% of the country. With that said, let's let the parents decide what their children will watch and listen to. "

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Robb wrote on Sep 10, 2009 2:44 PM:

" I am not arguing content, just that no administrator will tell me what I can and can not do with my children. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 10, 2009 2:35 PM:

" Jeff, how come you libs like to spin everything around? Rantraves didn't say obama broke medicare. He said obama should work on fixing it before he starts another govt. program destine for failure.

Hey Rantraves, you are really mean by trying to talk about facts with a liberal. You know that just confuses them and spins their head around, causing them to fall back into "incoherent mudslinging mode". When they don't have any factual knowledge (not biased opinion) they always resort to demonizing their opponent. They learned that by watching Obama and Pelosi. If your opponent does not agree with your view, call them names, vilify and demonize them. "

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jeff wrote on Sep 10, 2009 2:21 PM:

" so the problem isn't the program, it's the constant borrowing/printing of money.

and outsourced jobs is caused by gov't interference? "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 10, 2009 2:19 PM:

" So, sparky, what do ya think of your boy, Bryan, now? lol! I bet we really don't need to ask. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 10, 2009 2:18 PM:

" Brian wrote on Sep 10, 2009 8:13 AM:

" Bitch is the name for a female dog. It is used extensively in the dog breeding community. So, Lodian can't run to the LNS and complain I'm using profanity. "


What the heck? You're starting on the booze early today, Bryan. ;-) "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 10, 2009 2:16 PM:

" sparky: Brian often gets very personal here or trashes me and my family. Should he be exempt from the same treatment? "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 10, 2009 1:51 PM:

" Ok let's have that argument. Medicare is broken; and has been for years. In other words, "un-funded mandates" are essentially promises that can not be kept. Now that might look like success to some, but to the rest of us -- people who can actually add -- medicare is a horrible failure, and it's only getting worse. You see, the problem with these programs is that the geniuses who design them are never able to accurately calculate the rate of inflation. In other words, the cost has risen faster than they thought it would, and now the damn thing is broken. And it's always govt fault; because as govt borrows ( or creates money ) it drives the cost of services up. It is important to note that the cost of goods (or products) are lagging behind the cost of services only because govt interference in the marketplace has forced jobs off-shore thus bringing down the cost of production. I hate to break this to you, Jeff, but the gravy-train has run off the track; and no amount of flowery rhetoric, coming from the mouth of the great Obama, is ever going to change that. Okay? "

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jeff wrote on Sep 10, 2009 12:45 PM:

" so, how again did Obama destroy the 40 year old program, Medicare, in 6+ months? Is it a failed program? I believe you may get an argument on those points. "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 10, 2009 11:51 AM:

" Obama believes that if we will all just "pay in" then he and his czars can make healthcare work for us. That's code for, "if you're young and/or healthy, and are not paying in, then we will make you "pay in" because that's what's fair". Fair for whom? What is the matter with this man? doesn't he understand that every time "medicare withholding" comes from a pay-check a young and/or healthy employee is "paying in"? Doesn't this man know what the govt has done to destroy medicare? Of course he does; and that's why he must bring in a new program to layer over the top of medicare ( the failed program ). But why would anyone in their 20's -- who understands the failure of medicare -- trust our govt to satisfy those healthcare needs that will surely come for them later in life? They wouldn't, and they won't. Hey, Obama says that understands why some people are skeptical, but this time it will be different. OK Mr. President, prove it! Fix medicare, and then come talk to us about your big plans for America. "

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jeff wrote on Sep 10, 2009 11:42 AM:

" robb that is absolutely true. but why would you feel compelled to remove them from a presidential speech on student responsibility? "

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Robb wrote on Sep 10, 2009 11:28 AM:

" I have the right to opt out my children out of ANYTHING that I feel compelled to.. "

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jeff wrote on Sep 10, 2009 9:07 AM:

" wow, i think i just saw Joe McCarthy walk by. "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 10, 2009 9:02 AM:

" There are 3 categories accessing healthcare today. People who can't afford insurance -- they pay for doctor visits, or access clinics and er's. People who pay for insurance, but use more than they pay for. And finally, those who pay for insurance, but use less. The people who can't afford insurance are dissatisfied with the quality of care. The people who use more insurance, could be using less but have no incentive to do so. And finally, those who pay more but use less, are feeling compromised by the system. It's broken alright, and from where I sit there is only one fix: People need to pay for service after it has been provided. Do we need a mechanism that allows people access to high cost procedures? Of course we do, but along with that access comes the opportunity and obligation to pay for it. Will some people default on their obligations? Yes, and that is where the govt could provide some level of security. But no! that isn't good enough for a bunch of "commies"; because at the end of the day this "reform" is all about income redistribution and not healthcare per se. Please! stop already. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 10, 2009 8:57 AM:

" Brian, I agree with you about Lodian. We all may have strong opinions about the issues, which is fine. DO NOT bring our children into the conversation. That's just another of many examples of how liberals cannot stay on point with facts and opinions of an issue. With them, it ALWAYS turns into a smear campaign of hate and name calling. They get their training from obama and his puppets in congress. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 10, 2009 8:15 AM:

" And lodian is a lost cause because she believes Obamacare won't add to the deficit. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 10, 2009 8:13 AM:

" Bitch is the name for a female dog. It is used extensively in the dog breeding community. So, Lodian can't run to the LNS and complain I'm using profanity. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 10, 2009 6:50 AM:

" dogbark, I agree that tele-prompters have been used for a long time. What is different is that previous presidents used them rarely, while obama rarely speaks without one. Have you seen the great speaker when he doesn't have them? He bumbles and stumbles just like Bush did with his words. If people are intelligent and listen closely, you can see through all of the fancy, long, drawn out rhetoric in his speeches that leave you wondering "what the heck did he just say?". If he could just stand up there and give a speech from his heart (of course with some notes to help stay on point), he would be more credible. Instead, he gives these rambling speeches that always seem to circumvent the issue and don't seem to detail anything that he plans do do. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 10, 2009 6:39 AM:

" Mustrdred, can you describe for me in your own words what "exposure to a different way of thinking" means. I can tell you that is a very accurate, yet scary statement, considering obama is a marxist who is pushing his socialist thoughts onto a country born and still living with conservative ideals. Honestly, can you give me an example of what you think his "different way of thinking" means to you? "

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mustrdsed wrote on Sep 10, 2009 3:46 AM:

" Dangerous territory indeed! We should not be subjecting our children to engage in critical thought in school. Rather we should teach them to plug their ears and hide indoors whenever there's potential exposure to a different way of thinking. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 11:38 PM:

" dogbark wrote "I think the problem with 'W' was he is probably a bit dyslexic, and so muddled up the words."

Uh, sure... that's it. lol! "

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ttian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 11:24 PM:

" Quoting, "Sent my kid home from school yesterday cuz' I didn't want him hearin' no Obama Socialist speech, or pledgin allegiance to no specific country, or praying to no God, or hearing any Liberal garbage from those liberal teachers. He watched... Sponge Bob, instead. I want him to grow to be a good little sponge head." "

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dogbark wrote on Sep 9, 2009 10:52 PM:

" Sparky, a lot of have much more gray hair than you. I think it was under LBJ that the teleprompter came into use. In those days the cameras were big and bulky and on carts so they didn't whip around on someones shoulder like today so you catch the teleprompter in action. But LBJ used to look over the top of his granny cheaters to address the camera, then tilt his head to peer thru them at the teleprompter.
Every President since then has had the teleprompter there.
I think the problem with 'W' was he is probably a bit dyslexic, and so muddled up the words. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 10:47 PM:

" dyan wrote on Sep 9, 2009 7:45 PM:

" I'm 100% for it too. Now how do we pay for it?"


Didn't you listen to President Obama speak tonight? "

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dogbark wrote on Sep 9, 2009 10:44 PM:

" I asm going to ignore trying to point out to Wickster that the recession began under "W" and his disastrous foreign war, and instead try to get a simple honest answer from Wickster, as a businessman.
When you lay off an employee what does his or her COBRA payment jump to in order to save their health insurance and coverage for any existing medical conditions within the employees family?
Ball-park the answer if you like. "

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dyan wrote on Sep 9, 2009 7:45 PM:

" I'm 100% for it too. Now how do we pay for it? (sound of crickets) "

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sam wrote on Sep 9, 2009 7:36 PM:

" Good to know, Lodian ! "

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sam wrote on Sep 9, 2009 7:28 PM:

" Gator, good to know.

Have a great night. "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 9, 2009 7:26 PM:

" Thank you President Obama? For what? For showing America how much we don't want socialism. Good Lord! The man had 45 min to advance the dialogue; what we got was a sad display that basically accepted defeat -- Yeah, thank you President Obama. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 7:07 PM:

" sam wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:15 PM:
"I am a Republican and I am 100% behind our President on healthcare reform. Thank you President Obama."

I agree. Thank you President Obama. "

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Gator wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:56 PM:

" sam wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:15 PM:
" I am a Republican and I am 100% behind our President on healthcare reform. Thank you President Obama. "
Sam I’m a Bluedog Democrat and I go along with you.. Back home
Tired a H*** and still no wolf…. "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:42 PM:

" Giovanina wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:04 PM:"[blah blah blah...]"

Gio, that ship sailed long, long ago.
Strange you were so mute on the topuc during the Bush years. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:42 PM:

" jeff wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:25 PM:

" the idea of a federal lesson plan as a mandatory vehicle is assinine. "


Duh! That's why nothing was MANDATORY! Geez, do you people need help getting dressed in the morning too? lol! "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:40 PM:

" Giovanina: What part of "optional" don't you understand? No one was told to do anything. It was/is all "optional". "

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jeff wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:25 PM:

" the idea of a federal lesson plan as a mandatory vehicle is assinine. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:18 PM:

" It seems like some here do NOT support education or believe that personal responsibility is important in this country. "

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sam wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:15 PM:

" I am a Republican and I am 100% behind our President on healthcare reform. Thank you President Obama. "

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Giovanina wrote on Sep 9, 2009 6:04 PM:

" Amazing how the "original" problem has been overlooked. There was to be a Federal lesson plan. The Federal gov't does not have jurisdiction over Education, that is a state juridiction, and when the Feds try to shove a lesson plan in a classroom, they really have overstepped their bounds. This could have been a test to see how it would pan out for future Federal lesson plans. "

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lodi boy wrote on Sep 9, 2009 3:20 PM:

" At this rate, he'll force our children to rap the Pledge of Allegiance.

God have mercy on our souls. "

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lodi boy wrote on Sep 9, 2009 3:19 PM:

" How dare he brainwash my children, implying that education is important!

How is this man even President?! He wasn't even born here. At least, that's what Rush Limbaugh claims. And the news is right, isn't it? Aren't we SUPPOSED to believe the bad stuff only? "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 9, 2009 1:55 PM:

" You were right the 1st time Jeff, Obama is "wasy" -- just like the point you made about "context". Look, I make assessments about the man based on the things he has said about income redistribution in the past; his move to the right to get elected last year; and finally, his move back to the left as he pushes his imaginary mandate. Hey, I get it, you like him. But doesn't it matter to you that the numbers add up to total disaster for the dollar? Don't you understand that this take over will have serious ramifications that go well beyond any "heathcare" that you might be receiving from the deal? Of course not, because if you did you wouldn't be making ridiculous statements that can't possibly be supported by the facts -- C'mon, you can do better than that can't you? "

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sam wrote on Sep 9, 2009 1:20 PM:

" Dogs, you out there???

I have been thinking about this for since last night. What would be wrong with fining those who refuse to buy Health insurance ? If we go through the effort to create affordable healthcare why not require all to participate?

Instead of people buying homes they cannot afford, they should be responsible and make sure their family's health needs are met. Why should we pay for people who want to skate by on their responsibilities?

It would free up our emergency rooms and many hospitals could out of the RED.

One of my kids is a hospital Adm for UCSF. The horror stories about people abusing their emergency rooms and urgent care clinics are endless.

Requiring every US citizen to have health insurance would also drastically bring down the price for all. "

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sam wrote on Sep 9, 2009 1:12 PM:

" Thanks Aimee. "

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Jeff wrote on Sep 9, 2009 12:26 PM:

" how about "was easy". must got home... "

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Jeff wrote on Sep 9, 2009 12:25 PM:

" I agree, rantraves, it wasy. It is easy to fabricate, lie, and take things out of context for any person, least of all the POTUS. "

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Jeff wrote on Sep 9, 2009 12:23 PM:

" no, Aimee, no... don't open that can! "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 9, 2009 12:18 PM:

" Lodian, What makes you think that I hate Obama? I love him. I like to watch him and listen to him. And, most of all, I like to criticize him -- I just never figured that he'd make it so easy. "

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Aimee wrote on Sep 9, 2009 10:26 AM:

" danielh wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:14 PM:

" Jerome R. Kinderman: don't you know that the US owns all babies at the moment that their birth is registered? "

Daniel, how so? "

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Aimee wrote on Sep 9, 2009 10:25 AM:

" Gator wrote on Sep 8, 2009 6:48 PM:

" Damn it’s nice to see a little civility here…going to be gone tomorrow
still haven’t filled my wolf tag yet… 500.00 says I won’t.. "

Sam is always a class act. :) "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 9:28 AM:

" Brian wrote "...hire her to be part of a committee..."

No thanks. I love my job! "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 9:26 AM:

" Brian is a lost cause. I think we care more about his children than he does. Sad. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 9:26 AM:

" Jerome Kinderman wrote "I am thankful that I no longer have children enrolled in our public school system, although if I did, I would not hesitate to keep them home out of principle."

The president addressed schoolchildren yesterday with encouraging words as school gets started this year. Now, on what principle would you possibly see fit to keep a child home from school yesterday? JRK, you sound more like a nut every time you write another letter. This doesn't make any sense. You are falling into the trap of all those that run around saying, "The sky is falling!" Start thinking for yourself an maybe you'll have a chance to remain sane. Hopefully there's still time to save yourself, but it's questionable. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 8:51 AM:

" Perhaps Lodian is hoping some political hack from the DNC will stumble upon these bloggs and hire her to be part of a committee of fillibusterers. I hear politics can be very lucrative.

Oh gosh,
I'm contributing to Lodian's delusions of grandeur. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 8:15 AM:

" Lodian,

Your latest round of fillibustering
reveals two things:

1 You know very little about Obama and his policies.

2 You're quite proficient at fillibustering. But not necessarily convincing. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 7:54 AM:

" Perhaps you should read into Obamacare a little more and then you might not be so quick to support it. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 7:54 AM:

" Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 10:41 PM:

" Brian wrote "It's almost useless for you or any of us wise to Obama to convince Lodian and the rest of the Obamaites that there is anything wrong."

What's wrong with his speech, Brian? You keep shootin' off at the mouth, but nothing of substance is coming out. Well, I'm waiting... what didn't you like about Obama's speech? Be specific. "

-I didn't say there was anything wrong with his speech. The teleprompter thing
is because of past speeches. I think it was a good speech. That doesn't mean I'm going to fall head over heals for any of his policies.

Why are YOU so anxious to have your taxes raised to pay for this trillion dollar pricetag attached to Obamacare?
I thought you were a capitalist, Lodian.
The free markets can solve this problem
with health insurance without government intervention. Being able to purchase health insurance from other states will lower the costs at least 30%. This is only one thing that will lower costs that Obama wants to keep off the table. Cont. "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 9, 2009 7:42 AM:

" Tonight's the night. The "speaker in chief" has readied himself to deliver the speech of a lifetime. Who isn't exited? I mean, we are either going to get the socialist manifesto to beat all manifestos; leading us all to quietly fall in line -- yeah right. Or, we are going to get some kind compromise that leaves everyone dissatisfied. Either way it should be a fascinating display of likes we have ever seen before. Ready your keyboards boys and girls; it's going to get hot tonight. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2009 12:01 AM:

" Here is the speech that Reagan gave to schoolchildren in 1988. It was way more political than anything Obama has been accused of today. Read it and then tell me you still have a problem with Obama's speech. And then please be specific about what bothers you about Obama's speech to the schoolchildren. I doubt I will hear from any of you that were falling all over yourselves to blast our president for speaking and supporting our children.

November 14, 1988

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1988/111488c.htm

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 11:06 PM:

" Billy: It sure says a lot about the people that blasted Obama's speech today, especially before they even heard or read it. "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 8, 2009 10:46 PM:

" I finally made time to listen to Obama's speech and I can honestly say I now fully understand why Jerome R. Kinderman hated every word of it before he heard it.

Everything Obama had to say was against every principle and value within Kinderman's being. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 10:41 PM:

" Brian wrote "It's almost useless for you or any of us wise to Obama to convince Lodian and the rest of the Obamaites that there is anything wrong."

What's wrong with his speech, Brian? You keep shootin' off at the mouth, but nothing of substance is coming out. Well, I'm waiting... what didn't you like about Obama's speech? Be specific. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 8, 2009 10:18 PM:

" Rasmussan Reports has a poll out:

Americans that consider themselves to be:

conservative: 40%
liberal: 21%

Obama was the most liberal senator in congress before being elected president, although he ran on being a moderate. LOL. Check his voting record in congress. He voted yes 95% of the time that a bill had tax hikes in it. He likes taking our money. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 8, 2009 10:14 PM:

" How did the other 43 presidents give their speeches? If Obama is such a great speaker, why doesn't he give them without a tele-prompter like the others?

Brian, it is true. You can not convince the liberals as to what obama is doing to our country. They are so drunk from the obama kool-aid that we can only hope they sober up to this marxist, far left radical before it's to late. Unless of course you do like watching obama take over the banks, auto industry, energy, healthcare, and who knows what will be next. If you like the govt. controlling every aspect of your life, then no one will ever convince you that obama is destroying our country. It is simply a waste of time to debate them on real issues that concern a great deal of Americans. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:29 PM:

" Brian wrote "Obama has uses the teleprompter because he doesn't have any thoughts of his own. He would be stumbling all over himself without the teleprompter."

Brian: This is rich coming from someone that is the "copy and paste" king here on the boards because he can't muster up an intelligent paragraph on his own. lol!

One does not use a teleprompter because he or she does not have any thoughts. *sigh*

One uses a teleprompter to stay on track with the thoughts he or she wants to share in the speech.

I'm sure you think you could give a 15 minute speech to the American people without notes, but you would be sorely mistaken.

Brian, you are in la la land. lol! "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:14 PM:

" Brian: Obama didn't ask us to obey him or serve him. Try to follow along. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:07 PM:

" Jerome wrote:

Now President Obama's czars are being exposed as the clearly radical and anti-American thugs that they are yet given carte blanche in furtherance of this president's obvious socialist agenda.

-Jerome,

It's almost useless for you or any of us wise to Obama to convince Lodian and the rest of the Obamaites that there is anything wrong. But therer's always hope. That's why we'll always keep the candle burning for those ran astray.

I shuddder to think what it will take those so loyal to Obama to wake up. Let's hope it happens more sooner than later. They are still stuck on "contempt for Bush overdrive". "

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Brian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:57 PM:

" Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:31 PM:

" Aimee wrote "These worksheets not only give ideas for discussion topics and activities, at one point, it also "tells" the teachers "how" to talk to the kids, providing a prepared speech for the teachers to use."


These were guidelines and you know it. And Bush didn't have any supplementals because well, he's Bush! lol! Seriously, Bush couldn't even deliver a speech like we heard from Obama today. Bush would have been stumbling all over his words... uh... "nuclar"! lol! Thank God we have an intelligent president that our children can look up to. "

-Obama has uses the teleprompter because he doesn't have any thoughts of his own. He would be stumbling all over himself without the teleprompter. "

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Brian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:52 PM:

" Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:30 PM:

" T & C wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:17 PM:

" Every parent who Voted for Obama, "Must Obey Him"! "


Did you obey Bush? "

-Bush didn't ask us to obey him or serve
him. Try to follow along. "

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dogs4you wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:14 PM:

" Obama talks like a President, I wouldn`t mind him looking like one. That open collar and rolled up sleves reminds me of Howard Dean, and I couldn`t stand Howard Dean. Look the part of a President, a suit and tie for starters. Ronald Reagan never went into the oval office without putting on a coat out of respect for the office. Obama has some catching up to do, and if he were a big league batter, his average continues to drop.

Sam, CNN same tune, different lyrics. "

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sam wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:11 PM:

" T & C wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:17 PM:
" Every parent who Voted for Obama, "Must Obey Him"! "

T&C, I voted for Bush and never once felt like I had to "OBEY HIM"?

FYI, you can vote for a president and not agree with everything he does. "

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sam wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:00 PM:

" Raymond, you seem to have an issue with President Obama being a successful author.

You have said that you too are an author and have posted web links to your works.

IMHO, instead of attacking President Obama for being a successful writer, maybe you should take a few classes on writing to hone your own skills. With a little effort, you too may be a great writer.

I wish you the best. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:30 PM:

" T & C wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:17 PM:

" Every parent who Voted for Obama, "Must Obey Him"! "


Did you obey Bush? "

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T & C wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:17 PM:

" Every parent who Voted for Obama, "Must Obey Him"! "

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danielh wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:14 PM:

" Jerome R. Kinderman: don't you know that the US owns all babies at the moment that their birth is registered? "

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sam wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:05 PM:

" dogs, what is your take on CNN ? "

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dogs4you wrote on Sep 8, 2009 6:53 PM:

" Gator, if you go, good hunting and no Maggie`s draws. "

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dogs4you wrote on Sep 8, 2009 6:50 PM:

" Sam, Excite has the best version, makes the waters a little less muddy. News at 10:00 or 11:00 will clear everything up. LOL "

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Gator wrote on Sep 8, 2009 6:48 PM:

" Damn it’s nice to see a little civility here…going to be gone tomorrow
still haven’t filled my wolf tag yet… 500.00 says I won’t.. "

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sam wrote on Sep 8, 2009 6:41 PM:

" Dogs, I did not mean to "bark at the messenger." Thanks for pointing out the the article. "

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sam wrote on Sep 8, 2009 6:38 PM:

" Dogs, there are so many "ideas" out there. I have read 4 different plans and heard a 5th was submitted yesterday.

If you read the entire article it said " but there's no indication that Obama would support fines."

I am waiting for the "FINAL" plan before I react. "

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sam wrote on Sep 8, 2009 6:32 PM:

" I will. Thanks. "

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dogs4you wrote on Sep 8, 2009 6:28 PM:

" Sam, I have MSNBC and Excite on my desk top, just checked again, it`s on the front page. Hey don`t shoot the messenger, check for yourself. "

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sam wrote on Sep 8, 2009 6:22 PM:

" dogs, where are you getting this crap? "

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dogs4you wrote on Sep 8, 2009 6:17 PM:

" I`ll through my 2 cents in Gator, well said and how sad.

Those pin heads in Congress will impose a fine of $3,800 dollars for anyone that doesn`t have health insurance. You can`t get blood out of a turnip, but damned if they won`t try. For a man or woman out of work, or a homless guy to come up with that kind of money makes me wonder, has Congress has been hitting the Kool-Aid, again. "

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sam wrote on Sep 8, 2009 6:11 PM:

" Gator, nice !!!!!! Thank you ! "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:35 PM:

" Gator @ 5:24pm: Bravo! Well said! "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:31 PM:

" Aimee wrote "These worksheets not only give ideas for discussion topics and activities, at one point, it also "tells" the teachers "how" to talk to the kids, providing a prepared speech for the teachers to use."


These were guidelines and you know it. And Bush didn't have any supplementals because well, he's Bush! lol! Seriously, Bush couldn't even deliver a speech like we heard from Obama today. Bush would have been stumbling all over his words... uh... "nuclar"! lol! Thank God we have an intelligent president that our children can look up to. "

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Gator wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:24 PM:

" Well I guess Obama must have disappointed a great number of people to day.. How subversive, stay in school, don’t do drugs, a good education
Is key to a good future. Look at the drop out rate it’s unbelievable in
this day and Age… I worked for a major Cellular company my last
ten years of employment. The Engineers were from India, Pakistan
Japan and England and Ireland.. I asked the Northern California manager
Why?? He said simple they are just better educated and have better work
Ethics. Our education ranking in the Industrial world is pathetic and it
Shouldn’t be so.. The President says the key to a good life and a strong
Country is Education, Duh.. So the wing nut cheerleader Oxycotinrush
goes nuts and says he will put bad thing in those little minds!!! Well
It does prove Ron White right. You Just Can’t fix stupid!!! "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:24 PM:

" Wickster wrote
"As a Lodi businessman I am saddened by all the businesses that have been closed around me."

This didn’t happen overnight (or in this administration) and this has nothing to do with an education address to schoolchildren.

Wickster wrote
"BO is a wrecking machine hell bent on destroying America."

That wrecking ball already came through America and his name is Bush. Time to clean up his mess.

Wickster wrote
"Jerome Kinderman's letter was a warning to all parents not take BO seriously."

JRK is clueless and thinks way too highly of himself and what he has to offer here. If you take him seriously then you are in real trouble. He now looks the fool and looks to be in hiding. lol!

Wickster wrote
"BO's idea is for no other reason than to manipulate young minds."

Simply, President Obama values education. Unfortunately for your children, you do not seem to care.

Wickster wrote
"Parents….beware"

Yes, beware the ignorant parents among us because we will surely be pulling their load in the future. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:09 PM:

" jramagic wrote on Sep 8, 2009 12:21 PM:

" I just watched the President's speech. We are so blessed to have a man like this as President of our country. At last- a person of intelligence and character and accomplishment that we can all have as a role model. I will pray for President Obama. I will pray for him to guide us along the correct path. I will pray for his safety, health and success. And I will pray for his reelection by an overwhelming majority of American citizens. "

Wow! I could not have said it better, jramagic. I agree 100%! Well said! "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:08 PM:

" gray cloud wrote "It is obvious that we don't all see the Huckster-in-chief in the same way. It doesnt mean that either side is ignorant, stupid, nutjobs, hatemongers, racists, fools or uninformed. What it means is that we all dont agree on the actions he has taken, the people he associates with, the czars he finds and what he is doing with our money. There is no common ground on these issues."

Ignorant, stupid, nutjob, hatemonger, racist, fool and uninformed? Well, that sounds just about right. You described yourself perfectly. LOL! "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:03 PM:

" veritas wrote "I have given great speaches..... "


LMAO! Ya sure, Jerome. "

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max stanfield wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:02 PM:

" To: Blob Lowblow: [1] Of course it is not your name. [2] You did care and made a big fuss. [3] Now pick up your crayons and keep writing. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:02 PM:

" Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 8, 2009 3:24 PM:

" I'm shocked - SHOCKED - that Jerome R. Kinderman hasn't returned to his vomit to comment on the president's speech."

He is ashamed and has nothing to whine about.... and he knows it. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:00 PM:

" sparky595 @ 3:56 PM: Oh, so I see... this is payback. You're not thinking for yourself. You are just letting others make your decisions for you. You are a follower of the worse whiners in America. Turn off the radio a few minutes a day and breathe.

You can't find one thing wrong with the President's speech today and it's killing you. Now that's pathetic. "

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dogs4you wrote on Sep 8, 2009 3:58 PM:

" It`s OK to fail, fail to what extent. Also, you will learn from your mistakes, but not from behind bars. As far as problem and solution are concerned, the Rev.s Jackson and Sharpton have always been and will continue to be the problem and not the soulution.

Concerning Mrs. Bush, a class act, perhaps the new first lady could learn from her. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 8, 2009 3:56 PM:

" All of you liberals want to say that the American public should not be concerned what Obama says to our children. You make it look as though we are crazy to think he would say anything bad. And, you want to point out that Bush gave a speech in the 90's to students. Well, let me educate you on how the liberal democrats treated that situation. The democrats not only denounced his speech but also launched congressional hearings into the matter. They also asked the govt. accountability office to investigate federal funds used for the speech. They found nothing wrong. The cost -- $26,000. How much did Obama spend today?

The National Education Association said at the time quote "We cannot endorse a president who spends $26,000 of taxpayers' money on a staged media event". Wasn't today's speech a staged media event? The NEA said today of Obama's speech, quote "We applaud president Obama for delivering this message to students". Just a little hypocrisy for you liberals to chew on.... "

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max stanfield wrote on Sep 8, 2009 3:53 PM:

" Billy Rube. Thank goodness after you were sated, there was a still a little bit left. "

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veritas wrote on Sep 8, 2009 3:25 PM:

" There is an unbreacheable chasm between what Obama says and what he does. I have given great speaches..... "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 8, 2009 3:24 PM:

" I'm shocked - SHOCKED - that Jerome R. Kinderman hasn't returned to his vomit to comment on the president's speech.

Or, perhaps Kinderman speaks only without merit and avoids directly addressing facts. "

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sam wrote on Sep 8, 2009 3:20 PM:

" Aimee, thanks for all that info.

I personally liked his speech. I love the fact that he told the kids it is ok to fail and to learn from their failures. My favorite part was when he encouraged them to be part of the solution, and not part of the problem.

"What will we be saying about you 20 years from now." "

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Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Sep 8, 2009 3:17 PM:

" It is also all OPTIONAL curricula. "

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Aimee wrote on Sep 8, 2009 3:05 PM:

" These worksheets not only give ideas for discussion topics and activities, at one point, it also "tells" the teachers "how" to talk to the kids, providing a prepared speech for the teachers to use.

This is much more than just a simple address to the children of America, entreating them to stay in school and do their best, it is more detailed in size and in scope as compared to Bush's speech. "

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Aimee wrote on Sep 8, 2009 3:01 PM:

" Transcript of Bush's 1991 speech:

http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id=3450&year=1991&month=10

Transcript of Obama's speech:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/

In reviewing the two speeches, the glaring difference (from my perspective) appears to be that Obama emphasized that others (teachers, parents, government) first bear the responsibility for the education of children, then emphasizing that the child needs to take responsibility to be an active participant in the process.

Bush emphasized that children need to take responsibility for their education - there was no mention of specific government responsibility. The kids are encouraged to "make" their teachers work hard to teach them. Bush mentioned saying "no" to drugs, Obama was silent on that issue. Obama referenced his childhood challenges in relation to education; Bush did not mention his upbringing in relation to education.

Bush did not order that any supplemental worksheets and activities be created for teacher use; Obama has two sets of activity sheets to be used in conjunction with his speech - one each for two groupings of grade levels. "

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Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Sep 8, 2009 2:05 PM:

" Stan the Rant Man: I pity you. "

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Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2009 1:53 PM:

" Lodian, was that Bush 41 or 43? "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 8, 2009 1:41 PM:

" You just don't get it. Obama is a paid "talker"; and we all know about his speaking ability. The problem for him now is not his choice of words -- sometimes found after public outcry -- but instead what is it that is skulking behind his "words". Moderates are now looking at him with a skeptical eye -- the eye they should have been using before the election -- and now it is very difficult for Obama to say anything that does not appear disingenuous -- I guess that's what happens when the "hope" doesn't match the "change". The problem for most of you libs is that you don't have the slightest clue about what socialism means; you just figure that it must be better than what you've going right now -- once again, you've figured wrong. "

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Wickster wrote on Sep 8, 2009 1:18 PM:

" To jramagic; As a Lodi businessman I am saddened by all the businesses that have been closed around me. Look up and down HWY 99. Have you've seen the parking lots at the car dealerships? Have you seen all the vacant buildings up for lease? Wake up!!! BO is a wrecking machine hell bent on destroying America. He and his ilk do not want to see business people like mine succeed. Jerome Kinderman's letter was a warning to all parents not take BO seriously. BO's idea is for no other reason than to manipulate young minds. This is what Hitler did. Unfortunately it was too late for the German people to realize what a nut job he was. The BO machine has running out of steam. You saw what happened at all the TownHall meetings. Do you think these people are stupid? BO and his machine knows that they are up against the wall. Now he is trying his tactics on children. Parents….beware. Don’t allow this man fool your children. "

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funyon wrote on Sep 8, 2009 1:09 PM:

" Watched the speech today. It was wonderful--and very good for kids to hear. Too bad the writer didn't listen to it first before he spewed his guts. Talk about egg on your face. How anyone could find fault in Obama's message today is astounding. We have some real nuts coming out of the woodwork don't we? Beware the reactionaries!! "

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Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Sep 8, 2009 12:50 PM:

" I played the president's speech backward, and it clearly says, "Rush is dead! Rush is dead!" Try it yourself maxie. "

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Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Sep 8, 2009 12:49 PM:

" max, you're a buffoon. Make fun of my name all you want. I don't care cuz - newsflash - it ain't my name! "

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jramagic wrote on Sep 8, 2009 12:21 PM:

" I just watched the President's speech. We are so blessed to have a man like this as President of our country. At last- a person of intelligence and character and accomplishment that we can all have as a role model. I will pray for President Obama. I will pray for him to guide us along the correct path. I will pray for his safety, health and success. And I will pray for his reelection by an overwhelming majority of American citizens. "

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gray cloud wrote on Sep 8, 2009 11:48 AM:

" It is obvious that we don't all see the Huckster-in-chief in the same way. It doesnt mean that either side is ignorant, stupid, nutjobs, hatemongers, racists, fools or uninformed. What it means is that we all dont agree on the actions he has taken, the people he associates with, the czars he finds and what he is doing with our money. There is no common ground on these issues. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 11:23 AM:

" Jerome Kinderman wrote "I am thankful that I no longer have children enrolled in our public school system, although if I did, I would not hesitate to keep them home out of principle."

Unfortunately there are too many ignorant parents that would consider keeping their children home from school because the President will air an address to schoolchildren. And exactly what "principle" is JRK talking about here? "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 11:20 AM:

" Jerome Kinderman: You do know that President Bush gave a very similar speech to schoolchildren during his presidency, don't you? Did you respond to President Bush's speech with this much hate and ignorance? "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 11:16 AM:

" sparky 595 wrote "It was a good inspirational speech that all students should try to follow."

I agree! "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 11:16 AM:

" rantraves wrote "we're shuttin' the door"

Choosing ignorance equals failure, not only for your children, but for mine as well. I encourage you to open your eyes and make up your own mind. Too many of you are allowing radio talk show entertainers guide you into your hate filled ignorance. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 11:10 AM:

" Many of you, that were all up in arms about the presidents speech to school children, now have egg all over your face. Now, I hope you've learned a valuable lesson from this and stop your ridiculous right wingnut ways. And maybe you will turn that radio dial to a new station now and then, avoiding Rush and Savage sometimes. Can you hear me, Jerome Kinderman? "

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rantraves wrote on Sep 8, 2009 10:58 AM:

" Barak Obama went to school; to show the kids that he's still cool. But before he could, the door got slammed; then "ouch", he cried, "my left foot is jammed". "C'mon, what's the problem? It's me, I'm here"; "I just came to help, there's no need to fear?" Sorry Barak but we trust you no more; so pull your foot, we're shuttin' the door. "

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max stanfield wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:52 AM:

" Bob Loblaw. You didn't like it when people made fun of your name, why do you persist in making fun of Jerry K's name ? Double standard ? "Its ok if I do it but not ok for someone else to make fun of me". Better man up and set the standard you want others to follow. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:51 AM:

" I have had concerns about what this marxist was going to say to our children in his speech. After viewing the speech, I will say that it was probably the only one he has given in the past year that I agree with. It was a good inspirational speech that all students should try to follow. I am still a little concerned about the fact that they DID change the agenda, such as worksheets with non-educational based questions and suggestions to the children to "help Obama". Otherwise, I will say that the 20 minutes he spoke were worth having the children view. "

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Godfather wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:50 AM:

" Don't tell me your innocent, Mr. Obama, because it insults my intelligence. Now who approached you - was it Bill Aires or Van Jones? "

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max stanfield wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:49 AM:

" PS: What is not correct in Jerry's letter ?? The superintendent does not have the power to make such a proclamation. If he does, parents absolutely should pull their kids out of school and not just for the day, for good. "

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max stanfield wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:46 AM:

" I dont think its the message so much as the messenger. If Hugo Chavez or Kim Jong Il gave a speech on public television exhorting our students to stay in school, study hard, Hope, Change, etc, I would be equally against it. They all share the same goals: Bring America to its knees. "

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jeff wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:38 AM:

" wickster, perhaps they are teaching the correct conjugation of the verb "be". As in what ARE he and his wife teaching their children.

thanks for added entertainment, wickster. "

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Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:30 AM:

" Lodian, I have noticed that when it comes to "personal responsibility", many of Barry's supporters are against it. "

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Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:28 AM:

" The president just finished his address, and now Jerry Kimono's letter sounds even sillier. "

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jramagic wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:26 AM:

" God Bless the President (indeed- ANY President) who would encourage young people to become educated and more capable of both gainful employment and critical analysis and thinking. Those that would criticize such are simply ignorant themselves or possibly are pushing a different and darker agenda: Simple-minded uneducated people are often the easiest to inflame and misguide. keep 'em dumb and angry to do their bidding. "

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Wickster wrote on Sep 8, 2009 9:00 AM:

" I agree with you sparky595 however, advising kids to read books about our founding fathers and our constitution or American history in general is just beyond a person that hates America. If he and his ilk can't follow the constitution then how can he possibly expect the kids to do so themselves? The president's record speak for itself--he has done more harm to this nation than any one before him. He embraces radical leaders with ease just as he has with type like William Ayers, Jerimiah Wright, Van Jones etc. How could people be so blind in electing a man like Obama? What scares me even more is, what is he and his wife teaching their children? "

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Observer wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:49 AM:

" I must be getting tired....I'm a Republican, didn't vote for Obama and won't vote for Obama. I have absolutely no problem with the President addressing students about the importance of education. Quite frankly I think students need to pay more attention to American politics anyway. "

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Warrior4Life wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:48 AM:

" Warrior says "Thank you Sam" and gets the heck outta' dodge. Some people have 'issues' others 'isha's'. There is a difference and boy does it show. Good day all; now on the count of 3: Everybody check blood pressure and for those who can't . . . a pulse will do. Peaceful day. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:42 AM:

" Gray Cloud, you hit the nail right on the head. Obama has been studying marxism and socialism since he was a teenager. The radical left wing associations he has in the past and present are a clear indication of the direction he wants to take our country. I would like to hear from anyone who wants to defend these radical friends of Obama that you posted at 8:27. Trust me, that list of radicals is a lot larger than that, too. People need to stop getting their "news" from Chris Mathews, Keith Obermann, and the rest of the hacks on the MSNBC, the lowest rated cable news shows on TV. "

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gray cloud wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:28 AM:

" PS: I thought this smiling huckster was suppose to bring us together. Since his close election, he has done nothing but introduce changes that polarize people ? Hardly the actions of a "uniter" "

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gray cloud wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:27 AM:

" One only has to look at obama's friends, mentors and those he studied; Saul Alinsky, Jerry Wright, Bernadette Dohrn, Wm Ayers and dozens more to realize that there is nothing obama does that isn't based on hard left indoctrination. I didn't like bush doing it either, but he wasn't a "death to america" practitioner. "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:24 AM:

" Lodian, I am not opposed to personal responsibility. I am also not opposed to the president speaking to students about staying in school, setting goals, having dreams, etc. However, what I am worried about is him telling children to write an essay about what they can do to help Obama. Why not an essay about what they can do to help America or their community? Why is he telling the students to read the books that he wrote about himself? Instead, he should suggest books about our founding fathers and our constitution. Why is he so full of himself? "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:20 AM:

" basp wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:21 AM:

" Mr. Kinderman,
I would be interested to know if you were equally outraged when the former president Bush addressed school children in a similar speech during his presidency. "

I was wondering the same thing. "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:20 AM:

" Of course parents can choose NOT to allow their child to view the presidents comments this morning, but why would they make such a foolish choice? No, I don't think a student should be allowed to opt out of viewing these comments today with an excused absence. That's just ridiculous. If the parents want to hold their child back then it's their choice, but they can do it with an unexcused absence for their child. Poor kid. "

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T & C wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:17 AM:

" Is it just me, or is Obama making MILLIONS of dollars in royalties off of all his "Books" as he fights to Change America towards a "Socialist State"? The only one "Profiting from all Obama is doing is "Himself", "Not the common citizen"! "

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Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:14 AM:

" sparky595 wrote "...he has already scaled back on some questions and worksheets that he is going to require millions of children to participate in."

sparky: The president is not "requiring" the children to do anything except take personal responsibility. Are you opposed to personal responsibility? "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:13 AM:

" Basp, you are a typical liberal. You are great at pointing out grammatical errors in an attempt to avoid the actual discussion in someone's post. As far as the actual content of discussion, you are correct to say they are going to post the speech the day before he says it. However, did they plan on showing it BEFORE the American public took issue with it? I doubt it. Let's not forget that they have also revised worksheets over the last couple days that they are going to require our children to participate in. Why did they do that?

P.S. How was my grammar this time? "

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sam wrote on Sep 8, 2009 8:10 AM:

" Warrior, great 3 am blog.

I love this line
" Time to get over personal wounds that run so deep that allow one to spread and teach hatred."

Thank you ! "

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Warrior4Life wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:52 AM:

" http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/07/laura.bush/index.html

sorry, try this one. darn technology "

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basp wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:50 AM:

" Sparky
It is not unusual for an elected official to work on a speech right up to the time it is released. That Obama has made revisions is no different than any other politician. Also, parents have the opportunity to see the contents of the speech prior to it being released to school children.
By the way, maybe if you had paid more attention in school you would know the difference between 'there' and 'their'. "

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Gator wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:48 AM:

" Do I here the mournful cry, the sky is falling, the sky is falling…I don’t know who is worse Limbaugh, Beck, Savage or the Huffington post,
Salon or Move on .org…I think a cage of trained Monkeys would
make more sense. By the way Sparky I left you a verified falsehood
of your Idle Beck. Took all of two minutes to find one,, Pot, Kettle Black. "

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Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:44 AM:

" A school nurse can take a child out of class, without a parents permission, to have a medical procedure. That's much worse than listening to anything this fool has to say. "

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Warrior4Life wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:15 AM:

" Now look what you've done Jerome:

Read it folks; For goodness sake read:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/07/laura.bush/index.html?iref=mpstoryview "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 8, 2009 7:05 AM:

" Basp, I am curious to know if President Bush handed out worksheets with a white house lesson plan that required children to quote "write an essay describing how you can help President Obama". Did Bush urge the children to read books that he wrote about himself as Obama is going to (unless he has now backed away from that due to the outrage from many parents). Remember, Obama only received 52.7 % of the American votes in the election. That means 47.3 % of Americans did not want him as President (8 months later, that percentage is growing). So why is everyone so surprised that so many parents have concerns about him having their childs ear without them around. Obama doesn't have a problem getting on nightly tv and giving speech after speech. What would be wrong with a night time speech that the parents could listen to along with there children? "

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sparky595 wrote on Sep 8, 2009 6:49 AM:

" Alot of people will watch this speech and say "oh that wasn't bad, what was everyone so worried about"? But do you think that the speech that was available for viewing the day before he gives it is the same speech he planned on giving before the concerns were voiced the past few days? In the past few days, he has already scaled back on some questions and worksheets that he is going to require millions of children to participate in. Are those worksheets going to be shown to the parents before their children fill them out and submits them to the government, ooppps, I mean to their teachers? "

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Billy Rubin wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:29 AM:

" All Kinderman has is his spitting, impotent rage and hatred. If it was a Republican speaking, he would praise the administration for their involvement.

The text of Obama's speech has been available, yet there is nothing - not one issue, not a single quote - addressed in this latest crazy bleat.

How did you feel about, "...astronomical spending; corporate bailouts and takeovers..." that occurred prior to Jan., 2009, Mr. Jerome? Were you fine with that? Nine trillion dollars was fine with you? The previous bailouts were just great? "

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basp wrote on Sep 8, 2009 5:21 AM:

" Mr. Kinderman,
I would be interested to know if you were equally outraged when the former president Bush addressed school children in a similar speech during his presidency. "

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Warrior4Life wrote on Sep 8, 2009 3:16 AM:

" A reference from CNN's interview with former first lady, Laura Bush, who supported the education of our children during her husband's reign in office and has a real common sense approaches concerning the Obama Administration and his family and this country:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/07/laura.bush/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Not surprised this letter reached the eye of LNS; What is so amazing is the obvious and blatant support of such radical opposition of the current administration. Yes, it's "Time to take action" alright; Time to provide solutions; Time to stop using ones personal rage and inability to enhance communities to come together on issues; Time to get over personal wounds that run so deep that allow one to spread and teach hatred. The United States of America's journey did not start and stop with the current administration. It is hopefully a part of a future journey of bringing us together so that we can reclaim some degree of dignity and respect for one another and yes, as Mrs. Bush said, including the President of the United States of America. "

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