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Rep. Jerry McNerney: Health care bill will save money, not increase deficit

By Ross Farrow
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:09 AM PDT

Rep. Jerry McNerney told constituents during a telephone town hall meeting Wednesday that the health care reform bill before Congress would lower costs to consumers, reduce the federal deficit, make sure that everyone is covered and not require anyone to participate in a public option.

McNerney, D-Pleasanton, spoke to constituents from Lodi to Morgan Hill during a one-hour town hall meeting held strictly by telephone. Seventeen residents, two of them from Lodi, asked questions.

Those who weren't able to ask McNerney a question during the one-hour town hall meeting was over were allowed to submit their questions on the phone at either of his district offices.

McNerney began the evening at 6:33 p.m. by talking for several minutes about the health care plan before Congress. He said he read the entire bill — more than 1,000 pages — from cover to cover. Among his comments:

  • America's health care system is the most expensive in the world. The United States spends almost twice as much per capita as other countries.

  • Health care costs are increasing at a higher rate than the economy as a whole. The current proposal would reduce costs.

  • If you are a middle-class American, your cost would not go up.

  • Those with insurance coverage would be allowed to keep it.

  • No one with pre-existing conditions would be excluded, and no one would face bankruptcy due to health problems.

  • The San Joaquin Valley has 30 percent fewer primary care physicians and 50 percent fewer specialists than the rest of California. The health care reform bill provides financial incentives for doctors to practice in the San Joaquin Valley.

    Questions from residents within McNerney's congressional district ranged from the government's failure to administer other federal programs adequately to how America can finance health care when a reported 47 million new patients will be in the system.

    One Lodi resident, identified only as Susan, asked whether taxpayers will subsidize health care for illegal aliens under the proposal. McNerney responded that no one living in this country illegally would be entitled to any advantage or credits from the bill.

    A Lodi resident named Alice asked how senior citizens on Medicare with limited income would be affected. McNerney replied that the bill wouldn't have any effect on Medicare benefits, and make preventative treatment and tests free of co-payments.

    "It will lower your costs over time," McNerney added.

    Other responses to constituents' questions include:

    Public option: No one would be forced to accept the public option, which McNerney described as another insurance plan competing with existing insurance companies. He anticipates that the competition will bring costs down.

    Unemployed: Those who lose their job, are between jobs or self-employed would be covered under the plan.

    Lower drug prices: Drug companies have agreed to reduce brand-name drugs by 50 percent. Further negotiations with drug companies is being discussed.

    Assisted suicide: Responding to a Stockton resident named Skip, McNerney said that the controversial provision in the bill does not encourage ending life earlier. A doctor will be paid to talk to patients about issues like a living will, but only if the patient requests it. McNerney said he's not sure if the provision, known as "advanced directive," will be included in the final version of the bill.

    Federal deficit: Responding to a Stockton resident named Doug on how the federal government will avoid spending more money than it takes in, McNerney said the public option will be financed by premium payments. "It won't add anything to federal budget, one way or the other," he added.

    Tort reform: It's not in the plan, but it will be discussed.

    More doctors: Linda, a Stockton resident, asked how more medical schools could be opened so more doctors rather than lawyers could enter the field. McNerney said that the bill would increase student scholarships and increase reimbursement to doctors for Medicare services. Also, the University of California, Merced, has opened a medical school.

    Abortion: The bill doesn't change current law or require funding for abortions. No doctor would be required to perform an abortion.

    Mental health: Responding to a disabled Stockton woman with a bipolar daughter, McNerney said that Congress will work hard to make sure that mental health services are improved.

    Congress' health care: Members of Congress don't receive any special health care, McNerney said. They get the same health options that all federal employees have. McNerney is a Blue Cross member.

    Contact reporter Ross Farrow at rossf@lodinews.com.

    How did the meeting work?

    Rep. Jerry McNerney's office phoned people throughput the 11th Congressional District on Wednesday, asking them to participate in the phone-based meeting. Constituents were also allowed to call earlier in the week to make sure they were included.

    At 6:33 p.m., McNerney made some introductory comments about the health care reform plan that Congress is considering before taking 17 calls from Lodi, Stockton, Manteca, Ripon, Tracy, Pleasanton, San Ramon, Danville and Morgan Hill residents.

    Those who wanted to ask a question were instructed to press Star-3 on their phone. A McNerney staff member answered, taking down the resident's name, city of residence and the question. Residents were only announced on the phone by their first name.

    Meanwhile, Rep. Dan Lungren, R-Gold River, whose district includes Galt, conducted his third in-person town-hall meeting on health care Wednesday, this one in Rancho Cordova. He conducted meetings in Citrus Heights and Jackson during the past week.

    To submit questions or comments, call McNerney's Stockton office at 476-8552, or Lungren at (916) 859-9906. E-mails may be sent through McNerney's Web site, mcnerney.house.gov/contact.shtml, or Lungren's Web site, forms.house.gov/lungren/forms/email.shtml.

    News-Sentinel staff

    Reader Feedback

    Cogito wrote on Sep 2, 2009 4:20 PM:

    " Gio, and another reason it's cheaper, is that it's rationed. And another reason, is that if a certain therapy is available, like an expensive drug that could save your life, it's simply unavailable. and another reason is that they don't have government overregulation and malpractice attorneys driving up the costs. There are many reasons, and usually anything that's inferior just costs less. "

    Lodian wrote on Sep 2, 2009 10:38 AM:

    " dyan wrote on Aug 30, 2009 3:18 PM:

    " voter: Take me with you to fantasyland. "


    You've been there too long already. "

    Giovanina wrote on Sep 1, 2009 12:12 AM:

    " voter wrote on Aug 30, 2009 11:59 AM:

    " Gio, you are incorrect. The reason healthcare is cheaper in other countries is because there is no profit margin added on top, and everyone has access to preventative care, which lessens the use of expensive emergency room visits and simple problems do not escalate into acute illnesses which are costly to treat.

    Take your own advice. Do some research. There was an excellent documentary on PBS this past week. You can watch it online here:

    http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/08282009/watch.html "

    I have, I know people who live in those countries and I don't rely on liberal shows like you do. I actually talk to the people that live under the system. Their taxes are extremely high and subsidize the healthcare system. And there is also rationing when it comes to things that beyond preventative care, like Cancer. "

    rantraves wrote on Aug 31, 2009 4:44 PM:

    " "Cheaper" is a relative term, Voter -- so, don't be throwing it around like you know it means. Furthermore, who would want "cheap" anything? but cheap healthcare? -- You can have it Voter. "

    dyan wrote on Aug 30, 2009 3:18 PM:

    " voter: Take me with you to fantasyland. "

    voter wrote on Aug 30, 2009 11:59 AM:

    " Gio, you are incorrect. The reason healthcare is cheaper in other countries is because there is no profit margin added on top, and everyone has access to preventative care, which lessens the use of expensive emergency room visits and simple problems do not escalate into acute illnesses which are costly to treat.

    Take your own advice. Do some research. There was an excellent documentary on PBS this past week. You can watch it online here:

    http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/08282009/watch.html "

    Giovanina wrote on Aug 30, 2009 10:01 AM:

    " The reason that healthcare is cheaper in countries where they have a single payer program, try looking at their annual income tax rate. That's what subsidizes it.

    Trying doing some research instead of listening to the Democrats salespeople, including Obama. "

    Giovanina wrote on Aug 30, 2009 9:59 AM:

    " rwayne wrote on Aug 27, 2009 3:54 PM:

    " I am amazed at these posts. People are clearly angry about something. I do not understand it. Mixed into these comments are myths, misinformation and attacks on the Congressman. McNerney has been more available to this district than any other reprentative.

    I continue to be amazed at peoples willingness to crusade against their own self interest. McNerney pointed out the benefits of this reform to the whole country. A country that largely identifies itself as followers of Jesus who fed the hungry and healed the sick. "

    Since when is the preservation of our democratic republic a self interest?
    This is the dumbest statement I ever read. Must be a socialist as this whole bill was written by Socialists, and that is a fact. "

    rantraves wrote on Aug 29, 2009 12:30 PM:

    " Bob, I understand your difficulty. "

    dyan wrote on Aug 29, 2009 9:20 AM:

    " Let them show us the money. Then we can have a rational discussion. "

    Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Aug 29, 2009 8:32 AM:

    " Way to live up to your handle Stan the Rant Man, because your 6:32 post makes absolutely no sense. You are one odd duck... "

    rantraves wrote on Aug 29, 2009 8:09 AM:

    " dyan, it seems strange doesn't it. I think that left has convinced itself that collectivism must have everyone on board to make it work. The idea being that America is the one that stood in the path of success and kept us all from nirvana. It doesn't matter that the facts contradict such assertions; no, all that matters is that the hope must stay alive -- "If only America would see the light and come to the other side then we could all be happy". Sorry, there is no happiness on the "dark" side -- Snap out of it you haters! "

    dyan wrote on Aug 29, 2009 7:16 AM:

    " Here's the alternative. Give up your childhood fantasy the the world can be a perfect place. It never has been and never will be. Any country that has tried to make this fantasy a reality has failed miserably. The Soviet Union went broke and went back to capitalism.
    France and England are getting the message as well. Canada's health care is imploding. But somehow, our fantasyland junkies in America's finest universities think we can make it happen here. "

    rantraves wrote on Aug 28, 2009 6:32 PM:

    " It's all dated, Bob. The problem for you is that older and more rotten it gets, the more likely you are to gobble it all up. "

    lodidian wrote on Aug 28, 2009 3:51 PM:

    " sooziesdad
    I hope you don't force soozie to drink the kool-aid you drink. "

    sooziesdad wrote on Aug 28, 2009 3:38 PM:

    " Well, not one of you Obama bashing folks could even offer an alternative. Classic nonsense rhethoric from the right, but I expected nothing less. You may go home and listen to Rush and suck your thumbs now. "

    sooziesdad wrote on Aug 28, 2009 3:34 PM:

    " This site has some good info. Here ya go:

    http://www.aarp.org/issues/dividedwefail/

    Now I know there are some that say that this site will be horribly biased, but then there is inherent bias in most sites. Take a look at it before passing judgement. "

    Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Aug 28, 2009 2:53 PM:

    " stan the rant man -- your metaphors are as dated as your arguments. "

    rantraves wrote on Aug 28, 2009 1:55 PM:

    " It seems sad almost. The record keeps skipping, and the left keeps listening. It's Barak Obama! it doesn't matter that the damn thing is broken and unplayable; they just keeps watching as it goes round and round, forever and ever. Stop it! Get off your asses already and find another record already -- it ain't going to change itself now is it? "

    dyan wrote on Aug 28, 2009 1:50 PM:

    " My Point is obvious: "clueless." "

    Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Aug 28, 2009 12:09 PM:

    " Cogito -- your frustration with being a part of the minority party is palpable.

    So, following Cogito's logic, since my political philosophy is based on bad ideas, his must be based on even worse ideas.

    You are so wise Cogito.... "

    dyan wrote on Aug 28, 2009 10:13 AM:

    " They still don't get it. They think somehow the trillions to make this nonsense work just falls from the sky.
    They are destroying their kids' futures and are clueless about it. "

    Cogito wrote on Aug 28, 2009 9:43 AM:

    " Only a liberal mind could think that having a really bad idea is better than not having an idea. But I guess that's how you think when your entire political philosophy is based on bad ideas. "

    Cogito wrote on Aug 28, 2009 9:23 AM:

    " I meant "think" "

    Cogito wrote on Aug 28, 2009 9:22 AM:

    " Hey, if you morons go to the "Kaiser" blog, you can see my solution. And mine is much more realistic than the governments. Why would anyone with half a brain thinks that a system that's working for 4 out of 5 people, with a high satisfaction rating, needs dismantled? You people are severely lacking in cognitive ability! It's hilarious that you can't even see your ignorance! "

    ra wrote on Aug 28, 2009 8:06 AM:

    " Voter, you cement my case. Soooo...anyone who disagrees with you is racist? "

    rantraves wrote on Aug 28, 2009 7:04 AM:

    " Bob, It's a new day, maybe your head has cleared by now. If you want the uncovered covered then bring it in under medicade. What are we talking about? 10 to 15 million people? That can be done and at a lower cost than any of these other idiotic plans. "

    voter wrote on Aug 28, 2009 6:55 AM:

    " LOL

    ra thinks racism no longer exists because liberals talk about it too much???

    That's quite some logic. "

    ra wrote on Aug 28, 2009 1:41 AM:

    " Typical sign a liberal has lost the argument? They blast anyone who disagrees with them as racist. This card has been played so many times it is now meaningless. "

    Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Aug 27, 2009 9:26 PM:

    " I guess I should have been specific rantraves. How about specific, realistic solutions. Your insane manifesto talk does not qualify. "

    lodidian wrote on Aug 27, 2009 9:18 PM:

    " Jerry McNerney wasted a day with Lodi's mayor Larry Hansen, viewing a would be solar farm site and a levee at Pigs lake, but he won't take the time to meet with the voters. Ridiculous!
    Man up Jerry. Conduct a "real meeting". Stop treading water and do the job you are paid to do. You are embarsssing us. "

    stantaves wrote on Aug 27, 2009 9:11 PM:

    " You want solutions Bob? C'mon, how could it be any more obvious? Reduce the influence of govt and costs will come down. What you and your kind refuse to accept is that some people will remain in a state of perpeual misery regardless of what you might be trying to do to change that. You want to believe that if only the "strong" would lift the "weak' then we would all be stronger; and I agree but that should be a matter of personal choice and not some mandate that comes from on high. Get it together Bob. "

    stantaves wrote on Aug 27, 2009 8:55 PM:

    " Lord have mercy Jerry. We didn't like Pombo all that much, but then there is you. Yes, healthcare in America is expensive; but at least you should have the guts to admit that it's your ilk that's driving the cost. But no, that would require an honest accessment from those who have made a life out punishing the productive. It's over Jerry, so get yourself on the right side of this issue -- or you'll be over too. "

    gray cloud wrote on Aug 27, 2009 8:39 PM:

    " Lowblaw: Yes, I do complain. More importantly, it is not my job to reform health care. However, the first step would be to start with a complete listing of honest and accurate facts so we could see what really needs revising. This was never done, it would blow their efforts to nationalize all health care completely out of the water. "

    Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Aug 27, 2009 8:15 PM:

    " sooziesdad -- they never offer solutions, just lots of bitching and moaning. "

    dyan wrote on Aug 27, 2009 7:59 PM:

    " Some of these "true believers" on here just don't get the fact that Obama and his boys and girls are breaking the country. Right now the estimate is $10 trillion! For those of you who can't do math and simply say "tax the rich" let me explain. If I made $400 million per year and the government took every cent, it would take 25,000 years to pay the debt! Now do you "get it?" "

    Inquisitor wrote on Aug 27, 2009 6:10 PM:

    " I'm glad the congressman is concerned about the bill's impact on the budget. It would be nice if he was concerned about his people, though. "

    Mrs. S. wrote on Aug 27, 2009 5:43 PM:

    " Just peeking in before I cook dinner -

    My first solution is to remove restrictions that prevent insurance companies from competing across state lines. I'll be back with more. "

    sooziesdad wrote on Aug 27, 2009 5:29 PM:

    " So Cogito and others, what are your solutions? "

    Cogito wrote on Aug 27, 2009 5:06 PM:

    " That's "Wal Mart", not Wal Maer. "

    Cogito wrote on Aug 27, 2009 5:05 PM:

    " Wal Maer sells many perscriptions below my $5.00 co pay. Mrs.S., youand your husband are good, intelligent, self sufficient, Americans. "

    Cogito wrote on Aug 27, 2009 5:03 PM:

    " Excellent analogy Max. I know it will cost me more for worse coverage. I don't want any part of it. We are being LIED to. Did you hear about the Obama coctail? Nobody knows what's in it. "

    Mrs. S. wrote on Aug 27, 2009 4:45 PM:

    " Cogito,

    My husband just started a new job after his office was closed down last winter. We're waiting for coverage to kick in, and we're paying cash for prescriptions and doctor visits. If everyone did this, costs would actually decrease. There are also clinics at Walgreens and Wal Mart in other cities. There are ways the private sector is taking care of this. "

    Mrs. S. wrote on Aug 27, 2009 4:35 PM:

    " Oops, new keyboard. I have a few typos in my posts (whome is one).

    BTW, we don't have insurance right now at my house. We still don't want government care. Why? We've read the bill. Yes, to Jerry's dismay, some of his constituents can read. "

    max stanfield wrote on Aug 27, 2009 4:23 PM:

    " to rwayne. People are angry at Jerry McN not because he is Pelousy's water boy and bootlicker, but because everyone of his statements about this bill are false. People are tired of being lied to. Not just Jerry either, that is why Townhalls are erupting, because the people know they are being lied to on every issue in the proposed legislation. This is very simple to explain. You need a new car. I bring out a Yugo. You respond "I need a new car, but not that car, it is defective." "

    Cogito wrote on Aug 27, 2009 4:22 PM:

    " Sooziesdad, I'm sure there are ways of treating those without healthcare without letting the government take over. Quit parroting the MSNBC talking points. "

    sooziesdad wrote on Aug 27, 2009 4:13 PM:

    " Love it. More sound bites from Fox News. Gee boys and girls, do you have some alternatives? Here's one; try living without health insurance like 50 million others are. Oh wait a minute, these a probably people of color. Screw em and ship them back, right? "

    Mrs. S. wrote on Aug 27, 2009 4:13 PM:

    " My daughter will very likely need heart surgery some day. Because of her disability, it's possible she would be denied care. This already happens in Great Britain.

    If private insurance were made more affordable by deregulation, people would have more choices. We need choices, not what the government thinks we need. Choices were available to Sen. Kennedy, who chose aggressive chemo. and radiation for brain cancer even though he was seventy-seven years old. This should be available to all of us.

    The best way to ensure this is to let the free market work. "

    Mrs. S. wrote on Aug 27, 2009 4:07 PM:

    " Trouble is, no one in our house had called him about that, or anything, for that matter. It was weird. His staffers must not be very on-the-ball, either.

    However, the issue at hand is nationalized health care. That's really what it is; it's not just insurance, because the government will regulating the delivery of care. They'll be telling doctors what and whome they can treat. They'll base this on QALY tables (Quality of life scales like the British NHS). People like my daughter may very well be denied care. She's developmentally disabled. "

    Mrs. S. wrote on Aug 27, 2009 3:58 PM:

    " McNerney has been available more than any other congressman?

    In the words of a congressman I'm guessing you support, what planet are you living on?

    Last night, with no previous notice, I got a call on my answering machine inviting me to a town hall. I have to call his office and talk to his staffers if I want to attend another. Since I'm not a Democrat, I'm not holding my breath.

    Last year, my husband got a phone call from a McNerney staffer claiming my husband was concerned about a "farm bill". (continued) "

    rwayne wrote on Aug 27, 2009 3:54 PM:

    " I am amazed at these posts. People are clearly angry about something. I do not understand it. Mixed into these comments are myths, misinformation and attacks on the Congressman. McNerney has been more available to this district than any other reprentative.

    I continue to be amazed at peoples willingness to crusade against their own self interest. McNerney pointed out the benefits of this reform to the whole country. A country that largely identifies itself as followers of Jesus who fed the hungry and healed the sick. "

    dogs4you wrote on Aug 27, 2009 3:21 PM:

    " 21 posts and all agree, not so amazing when stopping to think what the subject is about. Gray Cloud, go to the front of the lodge, "you give weasels a bad name" is the best one liner I have read, although everyone else tied for second place. "

    jramagic wrote on Aug 27, 2009 3:20 PM:

    " We can criticize either side of this argument...but there is one irrefutable fact: Our health care costs are spiraling out into orbit and almost every one of us will be negatively affected if we do NOTHING. So think carefully and research carefully before you just blankly chant your side's mantra. You will indeed be bathing soon in the tub you are filling. "

    wtf wrote on Aug 27, 2009 1:19 PM:

    " Well, let's see...

    The government wants to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose leader says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a Country that's nearly broke.

    What could possibly go wrong? "

    dyan wrote on Aug 27, 2009 1:18 PM:

    " I don't know if he can tell truth from fiction after all that "bull" his campaign threw around about Pombo. "

    gray cloud wrote on Aug 27, 2009 12:21 PM:

    " Jerry McNeb. Your response to the question on benefits to illegals is a blatant LIE. Here is the actual Demoncrat vote opening the doors to them. http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33299 "

    max stanfield wrote on Aug 27, 2009 10:41 AM:

    " Jerry: Here is what YOUR HEALTH CARE CZAR says. Kinda different from what Nancy P told you while you were licking her boots.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574374463280098676.html?mod=rss_opinion_main "

    max stanfield wrote on Aug 27, 2009 10:25 AM:

    " Another reason to kill this healthcare mess: Section 431(a) of the bill says that the IRS must divulge taxpayer identity information, including the filing status, the modified adjusted gross income, the number of dependents, and "other information as is prescribed by" regulation. That information will be provided to the new Health Choices Commissioner and state health programs and used to determine who qualifies for "affordability credits." "

    tiger wrote on Aug 27, 2009 9:55 AM:

    " I'd like to see this bill pass.

    got no complaints about it. why complain? if we don't try, then do we wanna fall behind every other country in the future? our dollar is lowering, our jobs outsourced, companies failing.

    America used to be a super power, countries tried to keep up with us. now we are trying to keep up with the Jones.

    I think this is one move to regain the ball in our court. "

    Veritas wrote on Aug 27, 2009 9:54 AM:

    " Remember people, once the government convinces you to swallow this poison health care pill, the government will be the only ones holding the antidote...and you think they are going to care what happens to you ?? "

    gray cloud wrote on Aug 27, 2009 9:46 AM:

    " Jerry McN: Do I have your fact sheet correct ? Lower costs, reduces deficit, everyone covered, costs won't go up, pre-existing conditions covered, no illegials [this is false], no effect on medicare, no co-pays, lower drug costs, no additional cost to fed budget, increase in med student scholarship, more mental health [promise only]. Where can I buy what you are smoking ? It is sure more delusional than the indian mushrooms I am smoking. You definitely give weasels a bad name. "

    dyan wrote on Aug 27, 2009 9:19 AM:

    " A government program will "save money!"
    Jerry's got the laugh line of the year. "

    dyan wrote on Aug 27, 2009 9:18 AM:

    " Come out from under your desk, Jerry! "

    Whoa Nellie! wrote on Aug 27, 2009 8:41 AM:

    " I was one of the "fortunate" ones who received a call from McNerdy's office yesterday saying I could participate by calling in. I tried for over 40 minutes and got noth'n but a busy tone.

    I bet Obamacare will work just like last nights "Phone Hall Meeting."

    Nice points Max. Some people have selective memory. "

    steve wrote on Aug 27, 2009 8:24 AM:

    " $250.00 stimulus checks were mistakenly sent out nation wide to over 3,900 jailed prisoners, this is the same government that wants to run "Obamacare." No problem here, just move along. "

    max stanfield wrote on Aug 27, 2009 8:15 AM:

    " In closing, Hey Jerry, If it so great, how come you crooks voted yourselves out of any health care bill ? Why dont you just add all Americans into your health care system ? And while you are at it, how about that 100% pension program you have? You truly are a Nebbish. "

    max stanfield wrote on Aug 27, 2009 8:12 AM:

    " So with a perfect 100% failure rate and a record that proves that "services" you shove down our throats are failing faster and faster, you want Americans to believe you can be trusted with a government-run health care system? 15% of our economy? Are you crazy? McNebbish and cohorts aren't stupid, they just think we are for believing the tripe they throw on the ground in front of us believing we will suck it up again.
    With a failure record spanning over 200 years, I am not ready for the Demonrats Kool-Aid. "

    max stanfield wrote on Aug 27, 2009 8:09 AM:

    " The U.S. Postal Service 234 years to get it right; it is broke.

    Social Security established in 1935 - 74 years to get it right; it is broke.

    Fannie Mae was established in 1938 - 71 years to get it right; it is broke..

    War on Poverty started in 1964 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor"; it hasn't worked.

    Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965 - 44 years to get it right; they're broke

    Freddie Mac was established in 1970 - 39 years to get it right; it is broke

    Trillions of dollars in the massive political payoff called the TARP bill of 2009 shows NO sign of working.

    And finally to set a new record:

    "Cash for Clunkers" was established in 2009 and went broke in 2009! It took good dependable cars ( that were the best some people could afford ) replaced them with high priced ( people who couldn't afford to are now making payments ) mostly Japanese models. [more] "

    Cogito wrote on Aug 27, 2009 8:05 AM:

    " Hey McNerdney, now tell us the one about the three bears. "

    CraigC wrote on Aug 27, 2009 7:51 AM:

    " Liar, liar pants on fire! Come on McNerney, quit treating your constituents like children. Grow a back bone and meet with them face to face rather than hiding behind a telephone. If you are so confident in this socialist takeover, then show it! "

    ra wrote on Aug 27, 2009 7:28 AM:

    " Additionally, public employees should pay more for health care so they aware of the true costs. Set health care plan contributions as a percentage of average private-sector employee contributions. "

    ra wrote on Aug 27, 2009 7:23 AM:

    " When has government ANYTHING been cheaper or more effective? Remember the cable/tv reforms that were going to lower our rates? Well, my cable is now twice what it was then. Civil service by function protects too many employees who would be fired otherwise and incentivizes lack of innovation and very rarely if ever reduces its size bad economy or not. I'm not saying private sector is perfect, but there is an incentive to be more efficient. Would you want DMVesque employees making your healthcare decisions? What happened to CHOICE? Plus, the very people pushing this plan have exempted themselves from the plan. Healthcare costs can be better reigned in by making individuals more accountable for their health care costs letting us choose from any health care provider, ending billion-dollar subsidies to employers who employ illegals, and allowing U.S. citizens to shop world round for better medication/equipment prices. "

    steve wrote on Aug 27, 2009 7:13 AM:

    " Someone should have asked Jerry about Section 1801(A), "SSA can obtain tax return data" on anyone who may be eligible for "low-income prescription drug subsidies." Section 245(B)(2)(A)"IRS must divulge tax return details", and "other information as is prescribed by the regulations" to the "Health Choice Commission" and used to determine who qualifies for "affordability credits." Turn over your IRS info to the "Health Choice Commission?" Democrats never seem to mention these little hidden tidbits of the bill that they have written into it, wonder why??? "

    Pat Maple wrote on Aug 27, 2009 6:41 AM:

    " Two cars in every garage, a chicken in every pot and it won't cost THEM a dime...YOU on the other hand it will. I pay enough already for everyone else...enough is enough. "

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