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Prayer rallies to be held tonight before the Lodi council meeting
By News-Sentinel Staff
Wednesday, August 5, 2009 6:05 AM PDT
Tonight, two rallies about prayers before the Lodi City Council meetings will take place near Carnegie Forum, where the council meets.
Lodi United will advocate for the elimination of prayers before council meetings. On the other side, The Pray In Jesus Name Project will be asking the council to allow religious leaders to pray in Jesus' name during the council prayers.
David Diskin
The council will not be discussing its invocation policy during the meeting, but both groups hope to speak briefly during the public comment time.
Gordon James Klingenschmitt, the founder of The Pray in Jesus Name Project has applied for an encroachment permit for the Lodi Area All Veterans Plaza, city spokesman Jeff Hood said. The group requested the ability to plug in a microphone, speakers and a podium.
Even though the group has requested the permit, it allows them to put the sound system in the public right-of-way, but does not mean the organization has rented All Veterans Plaza, Hood said. The other group, Lodi United, or members of the public will also be allowed to use any part of the plaza.
Gordon Klingenschmitt
Lodi United formed last week to host a counter-rally, said the group's spokesman David Diskin.
Rallies at a glance
Prayer meeting:Main group involved: The Pray In Jesus Name Project
Spokesman: Gordon James Klingenschmitt
When: 6 to 7 p.m. in Lodi Area All Veterans Plaza.
Counter-rally opposing prayers before council meetings:
Main group: Lodi United
Spokesman: David Diskin
When: 5:15 to 7:15 p.m. in front of Carnegie Forum
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Lodian wrote on Aug 8, 2009 7:01 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2009 12:14 AM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2009 12:02 AM:
Just like you, Mazie discredits herself without any help from others. "
Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2009 12:00 AM:
Pot Kettle Black. "
Brian wrote on Aug 6, 2009 8:03 PM:
Mazie" is an upstanding member of the community.
-Lodian will do everything she can to discredit Mazie. This is her style, of course. "
Brian wrote on Aug 6, 2009 7:59 PM:
" Mazie wrote "jbhiker: not an ex junkie, FOOL!, i used drugs 17 years ago. so what?"
Well, there ya go... in a nutshell. "
Well Lodian,
The last sentence in your post is implying that Mazie may be a junkie after all even though she only said she used drugs. I don't blame MaziesDaughter for being so quick to come to her mom's defense. Perhaps a
little bit more scrutinizing of what you are going to write down is due. "
Lodian wrote on Aug 6, 2009 3:22 PM:
Maziesdaughter: You seem to have a hard time with comprehension and following along. I did not say the word "junkie". Your mom is the one that said it and I was quoting her. I'd say you should check with your mom on that one, but she has a hard time keeping up too. It must be a real challenge in the mazie household. lol "
davidd wrote on Aug 5, 2009 11:18 PM:
The entire event was peaceful, fun, and the weather was wonderful!
The best part, for me, was meeting so many incredible people who came out for the rallies. "
4AStrongLodi wrote on Aug 5, 2009 9:37 PM:
MaziesDaughter wrote on Aug 5, 2009 9:37 PM:
Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Aug 5, 2009 9:19 PM:
ummmmm.......you. "
uncle stinky wrote on Aug 5, 2009 9:01 PM:
uncle stinky wrote on Aug 5, 2009 9:00 PM:
stantaves wrote on Aug 5, 2009 8:55 PM:
shockedinlodi wrote on Aug 5, 2009 7:53 PM:
shockedinlodi wrote on Aug 5, 2009 7:50 PM:
MaziesDaughter wrote on Aug 5, 2009 7:37 PM:
Do you even know what your talking about? Don't EVER call her a junkie! You are a ignorant fool if you call her that. Get a grip, and get over it. "
MaziesDaughter wrote on Aug 5, 2009 7:28 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 5, 2009 6:19 PM:
Well, there ya go... in a nutshell. "
dogs4you wrote on Aug 5, 2009 5:42 PM:
Daughter, I could say more and worst, but Rich and Marty won`t print it.
It must coming close to a marathon session for you Mazie, you have been ranting now for almost 12 hours and I would think you still have a few more souls to save. See you tonight, will you be the one in the pink pants suit with a flower in your hair? "
Mazie wrote on Aug 5, 2009 4:15 PM:
The only reason i stopped doing drugs, is because of God. If no one else believes me, it is fine because in my heart, I know. "
MaziesDaughter wrote on Aug 5, 2009 4:12 PM:
dogs4you wrote on Aug 5, 2009 3:26 PM:
Mazies Daughter, I would go so far as to say you didn`t know your mother was a junkie untill she came home sober one night. A sad family indeed. From all the sense mom is making, perhaps she should roll one. As a human being, Mazie you make a better football bat.
And to everyone, including myself, we are in front of a key board wasting time while we pour out our souls to people we don`t know. What a sad case we all are. It is obvious that most people that post have nothing better to do, to start early and finish late proves the point. Glad I have my Labs and chores to do around the house to keep me away from this stupid blogging. "
jnnym wrote on Aug 5, 2009 3:25 PM:
flowerchild wrote on Aug 5, 2009 3:10 PM:
peek wrote on Aug 5, 2009 1:59 PM:
realist wrote on Aug 5, 2009 1:37 PM:
And jnnym, won't you be surprised when god isn't what you think. How christian of you to think about David dying. Do you only believe in god because you are scared? "
jnnym wrote on Aug 5, 2009 12:44 PM:
MaziesDaughter wrote on Aug 5, 2009 11:31 AM:
Mazie wrote on Aug 5, 2009 11:12 AM:
wtf wrote on Aug 5, 2009 10:49 AM:
dogbark wrote on Aug 5, 2009 10:29 AM:
It is an insult when a Preacher asked as a guest to lead a prayer says Let US pray..." Let him or her pray, if they began their prayer "I will now pray..." and concluded "and I ask in Jesus' (or Allah's, Buddah's, Isinagi's, etc. name..." then no one would be insulted.
In fact now that it has come to a head, a survey of local ministers indicates all but one would find such a prayer appropriate and they'd be willing to do that.
Isn't it Corinthians where it is written to show your religion by example, not by words? "
dogbark wrote on Aug 5, 2009 10:21 AM:
wtf wrote on Aug 5, 2009 10:17 AM:
I think, Mazie, the question should be:
What are ***you*** so afraid of? Why is it so hard for you to let those who don't believe as you speak; why is it so hard for you to see the workable compromise that has been offered so ALL beliefs are accommodated? I am serious, too. "
jbhiker wrote on Aug 5, 2009 10:13 AM:
leah wrote on Aug 5, 2009 10:08 AM:
DCB wrote on Aug 5, 2009 9:53 AM:
smokeater8 wrote on Aug 5, 2009 9:49 AM:
Jeff wrote on Aug 5, 2009 9:35 AM:
Crass? maybe. Over the line? possibly. Laugh on the floor funny? definitely!
nice job, leah. "
weezer wrote on Aug 5, 2009 9:01 AM:
But, more than reading, meditate on it. (Psalm 1)
Then, you'll realize that you don't need to be there tonight. "
Mazie wrote on Aug 5, 2009 8:58 AM:
leah wrote on Aug 5, 2009 8:50 AM:
Mazie wrote on Aug 5, 2009 8:44 AM:
Mazie wrote on Aug 5, 2009 8:41 AM:
anthropis wrote on Aug 5, 2009 8:39 AM:
davidd wrote on Aug 5, 2009 8:30 AM:
City council meetings that reference a specific religion make those of a different religion feel uncomfortable. You would likely feel unwanted if 90% of the prayers were for Mohammad or Odin or Buddah.
This is not an atheist issue.
I beg you to learn more about our cause at www.LodiUnited.org. "
Mazie wrote on Aug 5, 2009 8:26 AM:
anthropis wrote on Aug 5, 2009 8:16 AM:
Our founding fathers had absolutely no idea that the courts would violate the separation of powers and immerse themselves into the role of law makers. "
weezer wrote on Aug 5, 2009 8:16 AM:
Matt 6:5-6
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray,***go into your room, close the door and pray***to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is***done in secret***, will reward you." "
sooziesdad wrote on Aug 5, 2009 8:01 AM:
davidd wrote on Aug 5, 2009 7:54 AM:
Learn more about Lodi United and our cause by visiting www.LodiUnited.org. "
wtf wrote on Aug 5, 2009 7:36 AM:
Stella wrote on Aug 5, 2009 7:30 AM:
pooreastside wrote on Aug 5, 2009 7:22 AM:
Mazie wrote on Aug 5, 2009 6:36 AM:
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