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Lodi teacher accused of sexual relationship with 17-year-old
Student was in teacher's class; they now live together, have a child
A Lodi High School teacher accused of starting a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old student three years ago was arrested Thursday.
Andrew Gantner Krienke, 35, was booked into the Lodi jail on suspicion of statutory rape and contributing to the delinquency of a minor, police said.
Andrew Krienke
The female student was attending one of Krienke's history classes when the relationship started, Detective Steve Maynard said. The two now live together in Elk Grove and have a 5-month-old baby, he said.
Police learned of the allegations through rumors circulating around the Pacific Avenue campus, where classes resumed this week. Investigators interviewed Krienke and arrested him Thursday afternoon. He soon posted $15,000 bail and is scheduled to appear in court Aug. 20.
News of the teacher's arrest traveled quickly among the school's 2,166 students. Many were quite surprised, and knew only that they'd had a substitute teacher Friday.
"He's a cool teacher," said 17-year-old Luigi Torres, who has Krienke as a U.S. history teacher this year. The teen said Krienke had talked about his school-age daughter, but Torres and a fellow classmate hadn't heard anything about the girlfriend or the baby.
Students who had Krienke as a teacher last year were also surprised.
"I got no creepy vibes from him," said Hannah Bradford, 15. "He's the last guy teacher I would expect to be arrested for that."
Whitney Boschee, also 15 and a sophomore, had Krienke as a geography teacher last year, and said he was the only teacher she has really liked, partly because of his humor.
"He made you learn, but in a kid-friendly way," she said
When asked if they'd ever seen Krienke flirting with students, both girls, along with several other friends, adamantly said "no."
Krienke was 32 when he allegedly began the relationship with the 17-year-old girl. Both allegedly admitted to it Thursday, police said.
The teacher previously lived in an apartment a block away from the school, and the two had sex there, detectives said.
There was no indication that any sexual activity happened on campus, Maynard said.
School officials notified parents through an automated phone call on Friday. They didn't do it immediately after the arrest because the investigation was ongoing, said Principal Bill Atterberry. He added that there was no threat to students.
"This is still a new development and the investigation is still underway, so there's going to be no rush to judgment. We're obliged to take legal steps to protect our students and staff," Atterberry said.
His words were echoed in a written statement by Mike McKilligan, assistant superintendent of personnel for Lodi Unified School District.
McKilligan did not respond to messages left regarding Krienke's employment status.
Krienke has worked as a social science teacher at Lodi High School since July 2004, Atterberry said.
Investigators said they had no indication that Krienke has been involved with other students, but asked that anyone with information contact police.
Detectives arrested Krienke on suspicion of statutory rape, a felony, and misdemeanor contributing to the delinquency of a child.
Though most felonies have a three-year statute of limitations, sex crimes against children are under broader limits, Maynard said. Under California law, prosecutors may file charges at any time before the victim's 28th birthday.
Actual criminal charges will be determined by San Joaquin County prosecutors, who had not yet filed charges Friday.
Krienke is the second Lodi Unified teacher to be arrested on such charges this year. In February, McNair High School English teacher Christina Oliver, 24, was arrested for allegedly having a sexual relationship with a 16-year-old male student.
Oliver, who has pleaded not guilty to multiple felony charges, remains out of custody on $50,000 bail. She appeared in court Monday and will return to court Aug. 10.
Contact reporter Layla Bohm at layla@lodinews.com.
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Inquisitor wrote on Aug 14, 2009 1:48 PM:
Regardless of what's going on now in their lives, the courts have upheld that a minor needs to be protected irrespective of consent or maturity, and the perpetrator needs to be held accountable for the crime.
Their current status, however, could be taken into account. Perhaps sentence him to probation, register him as a sex offender, and strip him of his credentials, but allow him to keep his family together. "
Cogito wrote on Aug 13, 2009 11:27 AM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 13, 2009 7:33 AM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 12, 2009 5:32 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 12, 2009 10:09 AM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 11, 2009 10:11 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 11, 2009 4:12 PM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 11, 2009 12:42 PM:
Gator wrote on Aug 11, 2009 10:31 AM:
Gator wrote on Aug 11, 2009 10:18 AM:
Gator wrote on Aug 11, 2009 10:17 AM:
Lodi Unified is a Train wreck. The Idea is to get a well rounded education
not be taught to take and pass a test. Some how I thought the Democrats
were going to get rid of NCLB and get back to basics. Oh well just one more Campaign promise down the tubes…Some Teachers still teach the
old fashioned way, to learn and excel but have to keep a low profile so
as to stay inside the box!! "
Cogito wrote on Aug 11, 2009 9:44 AM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 11, 2009 12:47 AM:
"There is something definitely fishy about this story popping up three years later."
I agree. "
Lodian wrote on Aug 11, 2009 12:46 AM:
vegan21 wrote on Aug 10, 2009 11:00 PM:
bobcat wrote on Aug 10, 2009 10:24 PM:
mickeyluvr wrote on Aug 10, 2009 3:58 PM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 10, 2009 3:40 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 10, 2009 3:38 PM:
Cogito: Good reasons, but do you deny that these same problems can/are at private schools as well (talking about high schools here)? Maybe there are less gangster types (wearing colors and all), but there are still the students that are uniformed by day and drunks/druggies by night and at their big weekend parties. Check myspace and facebook friend. Come on now... this is reality. "
1143 wrote on Aug 10, 2009 3:35 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 10, 2009 3:35 PM:
Cogito: Zion School has not been in existence for several years now, so you're right, they have no waiting list. :-) "
Lodian wrote on Aug 10, 2009 3:33 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 10, 2009 3:31 PM:
" P.S. Voter, we also tried to keep them away from sexual predators, in their 30s, teaching their classes. "
Cogito: No no no... don't even go there. There have been plenty of these issues in private schools too. Do you know some of the history here in Lodi? Let's not play that game here. Agreed? "
Cogito wrote on Aug 10, 2009 12:45 PM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 10, 2009 12:40 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 10, 2009 12:41 AM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 10, 2009 12:36 AM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 9, 2009 11:25 PM:
dogbark wrote on Aug 9, 2009 8:35 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 9, 2009 2:21 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 9, 2009 2:19 PM:
Cogito: Why? "
Lodian wrote on Aug 9, 2009 2:17 PM:
And if you think that a high school kid is not being exposed to anything "R" rated in a private school then you are in la la land. :-) "
Lodian wrote on Aug 9, 2009 2:05 PM:
I saw this with several Zion kids myself, although they didn’t end up home schooled. I also saw kids come from Zion who were just horrible to other students, but that's another thread for another day. Your Zion friend is going to be challenged a lot if every time she turns around she is shocked and appalled. Well, that's the real world...shocking and appalling...as well as amazing and brilliant! Don't get me wrong, I completely understand the merits of a private school, but there is the real danger of no diversity, snobs and lack of reality. I'd like to take the qualities of both private and public school and create a new school. "
Lodian wrote on Aug 9, 2009 2:03 PM:
We've had great public school experiences, with great kids and parents, for many many years (for the most part). There are just as many disruptive kids and annoying, uninvolved, parents at private schools as there are anywhere else. It is a fallacy that people are THAT different just because they have been able to afford a private school education. I personally know this to be true. There is the danger of a private elementary, or middle, school kid being "too" sheltered to where they have a hard time existing in the real world outside their private bubble. Perhaps that is what happened to your Zion friend.
continued... "
Cogito wrote on Aug 9, 2009 12:13 PM:
CrispyBacon wrote on Aug 9, 2009 10:01 AM:
Getting back to the above news story, yes, what he did was bad, but at no point during my time at Lodi High did I ever hear of inappropriate conduct regarding him. Now he has two children that he won't be able to take care of if he is jailed for what he did. Yes, he should be fired. He had sex with a 17 year old girl during what was probably her junior year. Should anything worse happen to him? Let's ask his two daughters... "
Cogito wrote on Aug 9, 2009 8:10 AM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 9, 2009 8:08 AM:
vegan21 wrote on Aug 9, 2009 12:06 AM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 8, 2009 11:17 PM:
vegan21 wrote on Aug 8, 2009 10:26 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 8, 2009 6:51 PM:
And, Philip, you are right! There are some brilliant students in public schools. I have been amazed at some of these great kids.
Philip, you are who you are, not because of the name of your school, but for what you decide you want to be.
Good job, Philip! Keep being a good student. :-) "
Lodian wrote on Aug 8, 2009 6:39 PM:
Philip wrote on Aug 8, 2009 3:17 PM:
Giving you a reality check,
Philip "
Cogito wrote on Aug 7, 2009 7:04 PM:
Lou wrote on Aug 7, 2009 6:15 PM:
What these blogs show is there is no leadership, no followership, no guidelines, and no clear expectation of how and what students, teachers and administrators can do or say to one another.
Title IV requires a recipient of Federal funds to notify students and parents of elementary and secondary students of its policy against discrimination based on sex and have in place a prompt and equitable procedure for resolving sex discrimination complaints. Whoops! LUSD has done it again, they have no such policy.
OCR claims they believe that having such a policies and procedures specifically designed to address sexual harassment are a very effective way of making students and employees aware of what constitutes sexual harassment, the certain conduct is prohibited sex discrimination, and that it will not be tolerated by the school. Awareness alone, can be a useful element in preventing sexual harassment.
The kleptocrats at kleptocrat-central have done it again, they provided no leadership, no moral compuss, no rules, no regulations and no guidelines for anyone. We are all forced to just guess. Thanks. "
Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2009 4:15 PM:
Are you under the impression that only men have posted here? lol "
vegan21 wrote on Aug 7, 2009 3:58 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2009 2:40 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2009 2:39 PM:
Mrs. S. wrote on Aug 7, 2009 8:07 AM:
You've got very high self-esteem, and that's good. However, there are many things you could learn. One of them pertains to criticism: pull the plank from your own eye before complaining about the splinter in another's eye. That's a biblical concept, but it fits your situation. It transcends all religions, in other words.
I don't have to prove myself to you. I'm probably twice your age. You sound as though you have some proving to do, though; and thinking before you act or speak will prove your emotional maturity. That's something you need. "
Cogito wrote on Aug 7, 2009 8:01 AM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 7, 2009 7:41 AM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 7, 2009 7:33 AM:
07grad wrote on Aug 7, 2009 12:27 AM:
As much as it amuses me to read the back and forth insults among some of my fellow schoolmates and so-called “mature” adults, I think we are all losing sight of the main issue. So quit your pissing contests and focus on what’s important. "
Lodian wrote on Aug 6, 2009 11:53 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 6, 2009 11:51 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 6, 2009 11:46 PM:
What? "
vegan21 wrote on Aug 6, 2009 11:42 PM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 6, 2009 9:45 AM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 6, 2009 9:00 AM:
shockedinlodi wrote on Aug 6, 2009 8:56 AM:
Mrs. S. wrote on Aug 6, 2009 7:59 AM:
'.... so maybe your the one whose English teacher should have been fired.'
Your - possessive pronoun (belongs to you)
ex.: Do you have your book?
You're - contraction of *you* and *are*
ex.: You're quick to correct others' grammar; just make sure yours is correct as well.
At least you used *whose* correctly. "
Lou wrote on Aug 6, 2009 5:35 AM:
These things said, we should focus on what is happening right now at LHS. Is there more sexual harrassment happening "right now" as we speak? And, I am not necessarily talking about teachers...what about the administrators? Just because the board lets the administrators go unchecked doesn't mean we should. "
vegan21 wrote on Aug 5, 2009 10:58 PM:
CEB wrote on Aug 5, 2009 7:10 PM:
shockedinlodi wrote on Aug 5, 2009 4:43 PM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 5, 2009 4:19 PM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 5, 2009 11:30 AM:
vegan21 wrote on Aug 4, 2009 9:10 PM:
LodiClassOf2007 wrote on Aug 4, 2009 8:26 PM:
jeff wrote on Aug 4, 2009 8:12 PM:
shockedinlodi wrote on Aug 4, 2009 4:43 PM:
jeff wrote on Aug 4, 2009 3:27 PM:
Mrs. S. wrote on Aug 4, 2009 1:17 PM:
If the sexual activity between the student and the teacher began three years ago, there's no one to blame but the teacher himself. No one forced him to have sex with the student when she was a minor. That bad choice is his alone to own. "
educated reader wrote on Aug 4, 2009 9:36 AM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 4, 2009 12:12 AM:
CEB wrote on Aug 3, 2009 11:45 PM:
Lodian wrote on Aug 3, 2009 9:09 PM:
makes you think wrote on Aug 3, 2009 3:28 PM:
You stated your extreme (and valid)concern about the situation. This is beyond unacceptable! You posed a question 'would a liberal disagree?' Many would consider me a 'liberal' but to be perfectly honest, I am disappointed by so many responses which may suggest this is not a big deal since it was 3 years ago and they live together. If Lodi is deemed such a 'conservative' town how is it possible to justify such behavior? Personally, I really don't care if it was 3 years ago and that they live together. This is UNACCEPTABLE behavior for a teacher! What happened to family values? What message do we want to send to our kids... do whatever, regardless of legal/appropriate and if a reasonable period of time passes (and/or you are living with the person/victim) it is okay? T & C ~ even this 'liberal' finds this situation disgusting! This teacher clearly (allegedly) crossed a line. The fact that they live together does not erase history and poor choices. It only continues to indicate a poor decision of living together before marriage; assuming marriage actually follows. "
LodiReaderFromStockton wrote on Aug 3, 2009 3:16 PM:
I too believe someone has it out for this teacher or a member of his family for this to happen 3 years after the fact.
He's obviously not a predator so this is a waste of tax payers money and effort. "
Cogito wrote on Aug 3, 2009 2:55 PM:
goldn1 wrote on Aug 3, 2009 2:29 PM:
And by the way, I haven't seen a single report as to what date they started the intimate part of their relationship. Would opinions change if they DID wait until the day after she graduated? How do you know they didn't?
As with most things, the Sentinel and the school district slant these things the way they want them read, and they can always find plenty of people in town to jump on the bandwagon.
I for one think we have much bigger things to worry about than busting up a family three years after the fact. Isn't it telling that neither the girl nor her parents are the ones complaining? "
Socrates wrote on Aug 3, 2009 12:43 PM:
shockedinlodi wrote on Aug 3, 2009 9:07 AM:
"Police said both Krienke and the victim admitted the origins of their relationship. The couple now live together and are parents of a 5-month-old child.
He was 32. She was 17 at the time. He lived about a block away from campus, and she would come over from time to time," Piombo said. "Nothing happened on campus." "
shockedinlodi wrote on Aug 3, 2009 9:01 AM:
No, the one I have in mind is a women and likes to talk dirty to 14-year old boys. Evidently, its okay with Atterberry and the "Top-Administrators" as it has been brought to their attention...they barely yawned.
You need to make sure someone is taking care of this Administrator. I think all of us with children at Lodi High know who you are talking about. I have heard the rumours, but they are just that. I do not have any facts. I also have heard the rumour that she loves the boy's who play sports and are the stars on the teams. Once again only rumours, no facts to back it up.
Can you tell us if you have contacted the Superintendent or Assit. Superintendent and if so can you tell us when? Who have you told in the district office? I would like to know who is ignoring this information. "
kmg wrote on Aug 3, 2009 8:54 AM:
As for the current situation, do we really know what happened 3 years ago? Was someone on this board or from the police in the room with them? Just because she had a baby 5 months ago doesn't mean something was going on 3 years ago. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
And do we really want to ruin a family? Apparently she really wants to be with him and probably did 3 years ago. So now we are going to go back and wreck a family? Seems rather stupid to me. "
Mrs. S. wrote on Aug 3, 2009 8:16 AM:
There were a couple of ladies like that back when I was at LHS (in the dark ages). At first, I thought I knew who you were referring to, but I'm sure she's retired by now. "
Lou wrote on Aug 3, 2009 7:28 AM:
No, the one I have in mind is a women and likes to talk dirty to 14-year old boys. Evidently, its okay with Atterberry and the "Top-Administrators" as it has been brought to their attention...they barely yawned.
Are these the administrators we have "watching" the teachers? "
LHSstudent wrote on Aug 2, 2009 7:30 PM:
veritas wrote on Aug 2, 2009 6:35 PM:
Lou, i am sorry, i thought TD retired from a Lodi area high school several years ago. He must have a prodigy. How disgusting. Girls, button up your blouses if TD is gone and there is another to take his place. "
Lou wrote on Aug 2, 2009 6:12 PM:
But that was then, this is now. What do we do about the one's who "are currently sexually harrassing" our kids.
I have complained to the Board, and the so-called top-administrators and they refuse to do anything. What should we do? What do we do when bad men will do nothing about other bad men and women? "
warrenb1973 wrote on Aug 2, 2009 3:50 PM:
essayjay wrote on Aug 2, 2009 3:40 PM:
I agree a citizen's panel would be a good idea, but they aren't going to like, nor will they submit to it. They will have to be forced by some legal entity. Enough people could speak up and embarrass them though. There are kickbacks going on, closed door meetings, decisions being made not in the public's interrest, over paid administrators, union control that undermines good education, intrusive State control, let alone moral mishaps like this one. Let's call for a community watchdog community. Its time for local control, and time that outside bureaucrats don't run our schools. Washer is from Manteca, on her way to somewhere else, Odie Dougls carpet bagged from Elk Grove, they don't even live in town. "
Lou wrote on Aug 2, 2009 2:59 PM:
In fact, when I tried to push the issue "they" the kleptocrats made it clear that my own clients may be targeted if I continued. That's now, not 3-years ago. "
stantaves wrote on Aug 2, 2009 11:20 AM:
shockedinlodi wrote on Aug 2, 2009 10:00 AM:
wtf wrote on Aug 1, 2009 5:32 PM:
Got news for all you "outraged" citizens; the ***real*** freaks and weirdos will never be caught because they're the ones leading the witch hunt. "
T & C wrote on Aug 1, 2009 5:25 PM:
What type of message by NOT prosecuting this guy does it send to every teacher in California? If she is 17, it is OKAY to get her in your bed? I don't think that is the proper message. He should have kept his pants on and he would not be in the mess he is in now, or does a liberal disagree with me? "
wtf wrote on Aug 1, 2009 4:53 PM:
dogs4you wrote on Aug 1, 2009 4:16 PM:
A1sauce wrote on Aug 1, 2009 4:01 PM:
1. She was only 17 years old.
2. He was her teacher!
Enough Said "
Lodian wrote on Aug 1, 2009 2:21 PM:
I really don't think the age difference as an adult couple is the big deal here. "
dogs4you wrote on Aug 1, 2009 2:05 PM:
essayjay wrote on Aug 1, 2009 1:54 PM:
This better be good? Coincidently his father who works for the District happens to be working on a not too popular (with the district) alternative plan for health benefits that will actually help employees and counter the program that gives the District kickbacks.
Meanwhile, guarddog Bill is used to keep the troops in line at LHS and retribution is acheived on the Krienke family. didn't they already know about this situation for the last two years at least if rumors have been circulating? They don't just come up suddenly. What about unprofessional conduct at the ESC? Like certain heads of the Classified Personnel Dept. Sleeping around with 1/2 his staff. No one does anything about that but everyone knows?! Let alone Registrar Killin' Bill. So much for professional conduct. Yet we can go after a man whose family is working to improve the livelihood of the district personnel? Well there you have it in LUSD Land. "
Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Aug 1, 2009 11:25 AM:
Mrs. S. wrote on Aug 1, 2009 11:02 AM:
Mrs. S. wrote on Aug 1, 2009 10:58 AM:
However, he's fifteen years older than the young woman, and he didn't begin the relationship after she was of legal age; he began it when she was his teenage student. He's not married to her, either, which doesn't necessarily mean anything today, but it might sometimes indicate a hesitancy to commit.
A concern some might have is that he might be open to another relationship with a teen. "
carlos wrote on Aug 1, 2009 10:54 AM:
ordinarycitizen wrote on Aug 1, 2009 10:17 AM:
Acampo wrote on Aug 1, 2009 10:13 AM:
ordinarycitizen wrote on Aug 1, 2009 10:11 AM:
Shanersgirl wrote on Aug 1, 2009 9:45 AM:
WCPatty wrote on Aug 1, 2009 9:44 AM:
T & C wrote on Aug 1, 2009 9:21 AM:
They may be together now and go their separate ways tomorrow. Does it make the crime less serious that they have a child? No it makes it more serious because he didn't even want to use protection.
They have not married, even after 3 years, not even marrying in a different state. A Teacher/student relationship (IN THE CLASSROOM is one of TRUST, not being in your 30's and "Preying on a very deisreable young teen".
Sorry, no sympathy here. You should be prosecuted! "
jimp wrote on Aug 1, 2009 9:12 AM:
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