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We are a republic, not a democracy


Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:51 AM PDT

Lodi, a Christian community? It would appear that watching Iran stumble through their democracy would make us in Lodi more fearful of Bob Johnson's and Fred Rhodes' comments that Lodi people are mostly Christians, and as such, we must all hear a Christian prayer before all city meetings.

Since our Constitution is not a democracy but a republic, even if 99 percent of our population were Christian, we cannot ignore that 1 percent non-Christian population.

The differences between a democracy and republic is (a) "The Majority Unlimited, in a Democracy, lacking any legal safeguard of the rights of The Individual and The Minority," and (b) "The Majority Limited, in a Republic under a written Constitution safeguarding the rights of The Individual and The Minority" (www.lexrex.com/enlightened/AmericanIdeal/.../demrep.html or Google "Democracy vs. Republic").

Certainly, I forgot that our nation was founded as a Christian nation, as I have always thought that many of our citizens came here to become free from religious governments. I never realized that we had a Christian "Supreme Leader" and/or a 12 member "Guardian Council" (such as Iran has) written into our Constitution.

What title do we introduce these Christian members (opening up our meetings with prayers) if not the Supreme Leaders or members of our Guardian Council? Where in our Constitution does it assign the responsibilities of these religious leaders and how do they get appointed?

I do not remember voting for a single religious position in our city government since I have been living in Lodi. But then, I would be surprised if the Iranians voted for their Supreme Leader or any of the 12 Guardian Council members either.

Which of our many different Christian faiths do we all agree to lead us?

Whether or not we are a Christian city, there may be many Christians in Lodi who would not support getting religion involved with our government. The writers of our Constitution made a special effort to keep religion out of governmental affairs so as to protect both our government and our various religious groups, Christians or not. Let's keep it that way.

Duane Heinz
Lodi

Reader Feedback

dyan wrote on Jul 19, 2009 10:36 AM:

" Hasn't anybody noticed? We're a benevolent dictatorship. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Jul 17, 2009 12:25 PM:

" Yes, Stamos, you are quite a victim aren't you. "

anthropis wrote on Jul 16, 2009 3:08 PM:

" The intolerance and bigotry against the first amendment and of christians is appalling in our society today! "

anthropis wrote on Jul 16, 2009 2:59 PM:

" We the people of this generation are failing to preserve our laws and our way of life to our prosperity. "

Cogito wrote on Jul 16, 2009 2:50 PM:

" Wtf, that may be the most accurate description. Sad but true! "

wtf wrote on Jul 16, 2009 2:21 PM:

" anthropis wrote: "While republic and democracy are indeed nice words to quote, our government in practice is rather an oligarcy."

You could think of it that way; however, I prefer to think of it more as a Kakistocracy - The government of a state by the worst citizens. LOL! "

anthropis wrote on Jul 16, 2009 1:47 PM:

" While republic and democracy are indeed nice words to quote, our government in practice is rather an oligarcy. It is true that supreme religious councils in Muslim nations dictate all manner of approved behavior in religious matters.
Where here in the United States we have in our courts supreme secular councils who have immersed themselves in religious matters and dictate the segregation of God from public life. Neither of the councils tolerates conflicting or diverse viewpoints for they and only they have the final word. and we like sheep follow! "

wtf wrote on Jul 16, 2009 9:45 AM:

" Cogito wrote: "....I do not agree that our Constitution was written to keep religion out of government. I believe it was written to keep government out of religion."

Nicely said, Cogito; this about sums things up. "

jrs wrote on Jul 16, 2009 8:59 AM:

" The U.S. is a nation founded by Rational Diests - quite a different permutation on a religious theme than our current understandings of Christianity. It wasn't a bunch of spirit-filled charismatics, or staunch Southern Baptists. We tend to project our own belief systems on the Founding Fathers. "

Cogito wrote on Jul 16, 2009 8:18 AM:

" Duane, while I agree with the majority of your letter, I do not agree that our Constitution was written to keep religion out of government. I believe it was written to keep government out of religion. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". It really is two different things. Just as I believe the US is a nation founded by Christians, not a Christian nation. Our founding fathers did not want government meddling in someones faith, so we are free to believe as we wish. With no prohibitions. "

yeah you wrote on Jul 16, 2009 8:14 AM:

" Great letter Duane. Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter in 1802 to a church group supporting "building a wall of separation between church and state." We have many Christians in the United States, but we are not a Christian Nation. "

Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Jul 16, 2009 8:04 AM:

" Just how does "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." constitute "...a special effort to keep religion out of governmental affairs...?"

This part of the U.S. Constitution couldn't be clearer on its face or as it is interpreted in context to one of the important reasons people left Europe to establish a home in the New World. Our government may not create any form of religion by law (requiring its citizens to become members) nor can the government prohibit any citizen from worshiping as they please. Simple.

This convoluted "separation of church and state" did not become part of the American lexicon until the 1950s. And since that time it appears to me that those who rail against religion rely upon that premise rather than what the Founders had intended. As an example, rarely do we hear anyone refer to the First Amendment when fighting to keep prayer out of a City Council meeting. Instead, the first words in support of their argument contain the verbiage that has only been used for less than 60 years.

Frankly, I'd rather we stick to the Constitution. "

stantaves wrote on Jul 16, 2009 7:52 AM:

" All in a flutter, over a prayer it seems; no one knows why, but it gives 'em bad dreams. So they stomp their way down, shouting, "Stop with the praying"; "you're killing me man, that's all that I'm saying". Then off to court, to work this thing out; "We'll bury their Jesus, of that there's no doubt". "And when we're all done, oh! we'll never be done; 'cuz trampling their God is what we call fun". Shouldn't you haters be doing something constructive? like paying for your carbon emisions or something? "

CaPatriot wrote on Jul 16, 2009 7:50 AM:

" Amen, Mazie "

Mazie wrote on Jul 16, 2009 6:00 AM:

" May God have mercy on your soul, Duane. "

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