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Lodi looking for path toward agriculture belt

By Maggie Creamer
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:15 AM PDT

The city of Lodi has hit some roadblocks in its effort to rezone an area south of the city to create an ag belt or community separator between Lodi and Stockton.

The Lodi City Council will decide at its meeting Wednesday the best way to continue with the ag belt plan.

The council voted in November to pay up to $500,000 to get an area around Armstrong Road, between Highway 99 and Interstate 5, rezoned by the county.

San Joaquin County then decided in April that Lodi must pay additional fees for the county's staff time, which is a 26.5 percent charge for the Environmental Impact Report and a 35 percent charge for the specific rezoning plan. The city had expected the county to split the administrative costs, City Manager Blair King said at the April meeting.

The county will most likely hire Augustine Planning Consultants as the consultants at $366,000 to complete the EIR and the plan. With the additional county charges, the total will be $488,108.

The county is also requiring the city to obtain written permission from all of the property owners to act as their "authorized agent." City staff is concerned that not all of the land owners will agree to allowing the city to represent them, said Jeff Hood, city spokesman.

A couple weeks ago, property owners in the area met to discuss the proposals, but they had not come to a conclusion on the best way to proceed, said Bruce Fry of Mohr-Fry Ranch.

City staff has outlined four options for the council to consider, but did not make a recommendation on which one the staff favors:

  • The city could have the property owners ask the Board of Supervisors to consider the proposal as part of the county's General Plan update.
  • The city could do a study of the area without the environmental reports to answer many of the questions the county has about the proposal.
  • The city could restrict the ag belt to a smaller area, which will make it easier because there would be fewer property owners who would have to sign-off on letting the city act as a their agent.
  • The city could drop the plan entirely and take the Stockton City Council's word that they do not plan to continue development to the north.

    Contact reporter Maggie Creamer at maggiec@lodinews.com or read her blog at www.lodinews.com/blog/citybuzz.

    Reader Feedback

    sam wrote on Jul 17, 2009 2:11 PM:

    " Thanks Cog...

    And madman... I second that. "

    Madman wrote on Jul 16, 2009 5:50 PM:

    " Lodi, remove our Armstrong Road properties from your General Plan. We are not you Ag/ greenbelt separator. "

    Cogito wrote on Jul 15, 2009 9:37 PM:

    " Sam, thanks for always injecting a sense of reality into this bizarre pipe dream for the city. It's just a financial impossibility, for a small town the size of Lodi, to come up with the funding necessary to pull off such a thing. The sad thing is, they keep blowing the citizens money searching for a ray of hope. It ain't gonna happen people, unless someone like the Bolsheviks take over and confiscate all the private property necessary. "

    OTH wrote on Jul 15, 2009 7:23 PM:

    " Susies been in the shrooms again. More pipedreams that have no chance of coming true.

    Lodi you have no money. None,zero,nada, jilch. Maybe Ms Hitchcock and her husband would like to dig into there personal fortune. The land is not yours. Leave the farmers alone. I'm not sure you care but you are one of the most hated people in this county. "

    TiredTaxpayer wrote on Jul 15, 2009 5:06 PM:

    " I think most of us in Lodi believe this $500k buys us something. I had no idea that by spending this money we are no closer to a Greenbelt than we were ten years ago. "

    sam wrote on Jul 15, 2009 3:57 PM:

    " Hey Madman, there is 3700 acres in Lodi's " GIMME A GREENBELT" area.

    I would not sell my land for less than $100,00 an acre. 10 acres just went for $1 million and 6 acres just went for $1.4 million.

    That is $370 million. Think Lodi will pay?

    Let's be ridiculous and pretend we will let them have it for $20,000 an acre... That is $74 million.

    So if Lodi can find 50,000 Lodians willing to pay $1.5 million a piece by golly I think Lodi can buy their greenbelt. "

    wtf wrote on Jul 15, 2009 1:19 PM:

    " sam wrote: "...when I say "leave us alone" I am not referring to you."

    Kind of figured that. ;) But, I did ask what you would want done and you gave me your answer. LOL! "

    sam wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:36 AM:

    " wtf, when I say "leave us alone" I am not referring to you. You have always been extremely supportive of our property rights .... and I thank you. "

    sam wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:25 AM:

    " Observer, I agree. "

    sam wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:24 AM:

    " wtf, look a Wine and Roses. I remember when it was a gorgeous B&B surrounded by vineyards. It is still gorgeous, but isn't it funny how cities love to grow around great hotels and restaurants.


    If Lodi has this NEED to control the farmland out here, it is simple. Raise your city taxes and start buying up the farmland and do what you want with it.

    In the meantime, Lodi CC has no say.

    Why do you think the county is putting it all on Lodi? They are making sure all future litigations that result from this plan go to Lodi only. "

    Observer wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:22 AM:

    " This "Greenbelt" has been talked about for years. It's time to poop or get off the pot. How much is it going to cost, and are Lodian's willing to pay for it. My guess is when you ask for payment it might not be quite as important. "

    sam wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:21 AM:

    " You cannot force farming on people.

    When the farmland is ruined by the 2 cities encroachment, then add the hotels, strip malls, B&Bs, etc. Why cut up great farmland now.
    With the both Stockton and Lodi publishing a 30 general plan, I feel safe. As a farmer I actually am more worried about Lodi's growth south
    than Stockton's growth north. "

    sam wrote on Jul 15, 2009 11:20 AM:

    " wtf, leave us alone and let us farm. We are AG40 now. Leave us alone.

    A while back we, the landowners, were told to come up with a greenbelt plan "or else". After many years and dollars spent on great attorneys, we learned Lodi has no right to threaten us with an "or else."

    You want this area to remain viable ag land quit paving up to our back doors.... quit growing south. "

    wtf wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:58 AM:

    " sam, that's why I agree with Observer regarding, basically, whether the Lodi CC should even be involved. As part of giving people the entire pic, what would you, as a land owner in the affected area, want done? "

    sam wrote on Jul 15, 2009 9:31 AM:

    " Madman, I agree. If Lodi wants to control the farmland, buy it. "

    sam wrote on Jul 15, 2009 9:30 AM:

    " wtf, what we have NOW is a beautiful green farm area BETWEEN Lodi and Stockton.

    If Lodi would quit growing south it could remain green. Lodi CC loves to blame Stockton, but still insists on growing south.

    The 5 acre plan would add more houses, B&Bs, and hotels.. etc. Lodi CC wants a divider... they do NOT want to preserve the farms.

    Listen to Suzy... "more wineries, B&B's, hotels, Tourist destinations, etc." "

    wtf wrote on Jul 15, 2009 9:17 AM:

    " From the other article in today's paper:

    "Nickolas and Dolores Spanos of Lodi received the San Joaquin County Board of Supervisors' blessing on Tuesday afternoon to rezone the land at the northeast corner of Victor Road and Highway 88 from general agriculture to freeway service commercial."

    However, I am concerned that this is the future of our ag land. "

    wtf wrote on Jul 15, 2009 9:14 AM:

    " I agree with Observer that this needs to be voted on AFTER ***all*** the information is presented so voters can make an informed decision; however, ultimately, it will be the land owners who decide because, frankly, I just don't trust the CC to do what's in the best interests of the land owners. If they were allowed to act as agents, to me, that's just getting their foot in the door and the next thing you know, they'll be wanting to invoke Eminent Domain. "

    wtf wrote on Jul 15, 2009 9:14 AM:

    " While a "greenbelt" is definitely appealing, the way our CC is going about things is not! As sam pointed out, they've already wasted half a million dollars....guess they like round figures and want to waste another half million dollars for a nice round MILLION dollars...for what?

    CC the people of Lodi do NOT have that kind of money to throw around to "consultants"....especially when you're trying to act as an agent for people who do not want you. "

    lodidian wrote on Jul 15, 2009 8:55 AM:

    " It would be nice to keep Stockton and Lodi from growing together---it would also be nice to have all the money the city has wasted and continues to waste on ill concieved ideas of a few cc members.
    I like option four. Who knows maybe the city of Stockton would be willing to write a letter of agreement stating their intent not to build North.
    PLEASE---cc do your homework---represent the people---stop the pet projects of a few members. "

    Madman wrote on Jul 15, 2009 8:27 AM:

    " If Lodi wants to control farmland on Armstrong, buy it.
    Otherwise leave us alone.

    You guys cannot even manage your own affairs. What makes you think we want you to control our land and our businesses? "

    sam wrote on Jul 15, 2009 8:05 AM:

    " jrmagic, what did the last $500,000 the CC paid towards the greenbelt 4 years ago buy you... a worthless plan.

    This next $500,000 again buys Lodi nothing. Ever wonder why the county is making it so hard for Lodi? They know the landowners do NOT want it.

    Splitting the land up and adding HUNDREDS of houses out here is going to preserve agriculture how?

    Hitchcock made it very clear to us. She does NOT care about preserving our farm businesses... she just wants a divider.

    Yeah, I will be first in line to sign giving Lodi the right to represent my land... NOT. "

    Observer wrote on Jul 15, 2009 7:54 AM:

    " I believe this is an issue that needs to be decided by the electorate. There will be a tremendous cost to an "agri-belt" and I wonder if the good people of Lodi are willing to pay for it? It's easy to set back and say you want to want to control someone else's property but are you willing to pay for it? I really think it's that simple. "

    al da long wrote on Jul 15, 2009 7:52 AM:

    " come up with $500K for it, maybe the city will pay for it out of the city waste water 2X rate hike.
    The city doesn'have $500k to waste! "

    jramagic wrote on Jul 15, 2009 7:37 AM:

    " Please, PLEASE dear Lodi...push for and implement the agri-belt! Don't just let the highway 5 corridor morf into one big Los Angeles-like unending plain of tract homes and strip malls. It will RIN the rural character of Lodi. PLUS- we are foolishly paving over the RICHEST farmland in the WORLD!!! And where will the water for those homes and businesses come from?
    Not to mention the Pollution, Congestion and likely social decay that will accompany it! Enoough is enough!!! "

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