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Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:31 AM PDT

Now is the time of the summer solstice, the longest day of the year.

The six months that have elapsed since the shortest day of the year have flown by, full of turmoil and uncertainty for too many people in too many places — in general.

For each of us there have been some personal havens of quiet and comfort, and maybe even of hope. These are the times that keep us going, like lanterns on a stormy night. We need to seek or create these places and share them with others whose lanterns may have gone out.

Some of us have been lighting communal bonfires here and there on certain remarkable days, like April 15 (tax day) and June 14 (Flag Day), in hopes that more people will take heed and prepare their own lanterns against stormier days to come. We have called these particular bonfires TEA (Taxed Enough Already) parties, but they have dealt with far more issues than that one. What has been disappointing is that more Lodians have not shown up for these events at the Veterans Plaza, and those who have shown up have been mostly those 55 and older.

We need the younger people to get involved. They are the ones who will inherit the problems being developed today by people who declare, "We (or I) won," and turn what should be a stand for responsibility into that old playground chant: "We (I) won, and you didn't! Nyanh, nyanh, nyanh!" and then play a power game that pays no attention to the Constitutional rules under which this country was established.

There are a lot of very good minds in this country who are deeply concerned and who are speaking out. We need to pay attention and learn what's going on. Unfortunately, most media outlets are biased — and silent. If you really want to know what's going on, watch Fox News. Neil Cavuto at 1 p.m. our time, Glenn Beck at 2, and the "Special Report" at 3 are the best. (For most people, they will have to be taped for watching at more convenient times.) Various programs at 4, 5, 6 and 7 p.m. will also tell you what's what. Also useful is Fox News at 3 p.m. Sundays.

This country was begun by some brave, independent and far-seeing individuals who left family members, comfortable homes, friends and livelihoods for a totally unknown land and hardships. They held their ground and set up a new country with a new kind of government that has come down these 200 years or more. Word has it that when Benjamin Franklin emerged from the hot, muggy room where the Constitution was being hammered out, he was asked, "Well, what kind of a government did you give us?" He answered, "We have given you a Republic — if you can keep it." Right now, we are in danger of losing it, and partly because people say we are a democracy. We're not; we are a REPUBLIC, where the minority can have some input as well as the majority.

It was some more brave, independent and far-seeing individuals who left all their established communities and ways of life and took off for the western reaches of this country, facing unknown hardships. Well, they stuck it out, and here we are living in one of a lot of new states. These states fit right in, because the Constitution had already provided them with their own rights that the federal government can't infringe on, something that needs paying attention to.

We can't control all that's coming down the pike, but we can act like our courageous forebears and do what we can as individuals to make a difference for the better. We can do our best to keep our own finances in order. We can help those who are worse off. We can see to it that our children do their best in school, and help them study at home. We can bring up our children to become respectful, responsible people who learn about their country's history, geography and government. We can honor our flag. We can keep copies of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution around for ready reference — and the Ten Commandments, too.

We can treat other people with courtesy, kindness and compassion. We can keep our homes and yards neat, and take care of the sidewalks and streets in our areas. We can stop littering, vandalizing, stealing, driving drunk and shooting each other. We can patronize our local businesses and restaurants. We can join local clubs and organizations to see that they can continue their good work. We can take care of the earth and all the wonderful trees, plants and flowers it grows, both in our own yards and in public places. We can volunteer to keep up a park or a public area, or grow vegetables and fruits in vacant lots. We can keep vacant homes in our neighborhoods from being eyesores or fire hazards. We can be honest, honorable and dependable, and keep our lanterns lighted.

Gwin Mitchell Paden has been a Sentinel columnist since 1999 after being busy in a lot of community groups and moving through an n umber of careers, most of which involved writing or teaching. She has been in Lodi for 52 years and counting.

Reader Feedback

stantaves wrote on Jun 30, 2009 10:56 AM:

" "Cap'n'Trade", It might as well be called "Crap'n'Wade" -- the bureaucrats "crap" and the rest of us "wade". "

Cogito wrote on Jun 29, 2009 4:25 PM:

" Leonard, exactly what "problem' are you referring to. If your talking about global warming, and you think this legislation will do anything, I would like you to send me a baggie of whatever you're smoking down there in Texas. It's got to be reality altering. I dont mind a little vacation without leaving home every once in a while. "

wtf wrote on Jun 29, 2009 2:08 PM:

" Leonard wrote: "Thanks for the link WTF. Now I know where to send my contributions."

You're welcome, Leonard....though they'll probably just take the money and run. You and I both know that's pretty much what BOTH sides of the aisle do. LOL!

Here's another link; the video is pretty funny.

Going $$$Green$$$ with Cap and Trade!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si-htSSHxsE "

Leonard wrote on Jun 29, 2009 1:35 PM:

" If God had wanted us to take care of our own problems he wouldn't have created the Tooth Fairy. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 29, 2009 1:29 PM:

" wtf wrote on Jun 29, 2009 12:52 PM:

8 Republicans who voted for Cap and Trade


Thanks for the link WTF. Now I know where to send my contributions.

I suppose you were in favor for the magical cost free solution to the problem that also guaranteed every American an never ending supply of Lolly-Pops. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Jun 29, 2009 1:19 PM:

" wtf=wrinkled tired fogie. I forget how old and used up you are, but then you post some ridiculous babble that reminds us all. SBC is way out of your demographic so I understand why you don't get his brilliance. As far as your disregard for the health of our pplanet, that is just sad and short-sighted, although you are so ancient and tired you probably don't have much time left anyway. "

wtf wrote on Jun 29, 2009 12:52 PM:

" Cap and Tr8tors Can Change Vote by July 2 Deadline!

8 Republicans who voted for Cap and Trade

The following republicans voted FOR the largest tax bill ever passed by a session of Congress.

Any good work they have done has been for naught. Unless they change their votes by the deadline, Wed, July 2nd, they will forever be a member of the Cap and Tr8tors.

MOTION TO RECONSIDER

A motion to reconsider is a parliamentary practice that gives the House (or Senate) one opportunity to review its action on a motion, amendment, or measure.

Contact their local office as they are not in DC and home on vacation.

Mary Bono Mack R (CA)
Mike Castle R (DW)
Mark Steven Eirk R (IL)
Leonard Lance R (NJ)
Frank LoBiondo R (NJ)
John McHugh R (NY)
Dave Reichert R (WA)
Chris Smith R (NJ) "

wtf wrote on Jun 29, 2009 11:43 AM:

" THANK YOU stantaves and Cogito! "

Cogito wrote on Jun 29, 2009 10:16 AM:

" Cap and trade has a potential to become a huge boom for the economy. The problem is, that economy happens to be Mexico's or someone else. If the cost to American business becomes too high, they'll just move their manufacturing plants. American companies, due to this law, will not be able to compete on a level playing field with worldwide competitors. So they'll move to a country that has no such laws. The only net effect will be a loss of American jobs. Many of them union manufacturing jobs. The industries will still be emitting carbon, only within the borders of another country. So the Earth will see zero benefit. Obama was whining about companies off-shoring jobs, now he's necessitating it. "

stantaves wrote on Jun 29, 2009 9:17 AM:

" The dirty little secret of "cap'n'trade" is that it is just another form of income re-distribution. In other words we will continue to use just as much "dirty energy"; the only difference being that some will pay more, while others will get subsidized. "

wtf wrote on Jun 28, 2009 7:20 PM:

" You find that funny? O-O-OK....whatever trips your trigger. But I have to wonder why Sacha Baron Cohen didn't set up one of his famous "pranks" on AIPAC or some Zionist troll...now ***that*** would be funny! LOL! "

wtf wrote on Jun 28, 2009 7:19 PM:

" You probably wouldn't mind the spoilers then, Bob....

"The rest of the movie is a mix of interviews and stunts targeting celebrities and conservatives of various stripes.

"At one point, Bruno enrolls in a homosexual reprogramming course with evangelical Christians and spends the whole time hitting on the trainers.

He sits down with a leader of Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, who tells Bruno to leave after Bruno tells him "your King Osama" looks like a "dirty wizard."

"...And in the movie's much-hyped set piece, he stages a cage fight in Arkansas where, to the audience's surprise, he proceeds to make out passionately with another man." "

wtf wrote on Jun 28, 2009 7:03 PM:

" Oh, and Bob? Sacha Baron Cohen is no fool, he knows anything with Ron Paul is a money maker...and people like you are being sucked right in. LOL! "

wtf wrote on Jun 28, 2009 6:58 PM:

" A few months ago, I was able to view the entire clip. Unfortunately, YouTube has pulled it. "

wtf wrote on Jun 28, 2009 6:57 PM:

" Bob, I was waiting for the ad hominem attack from you....that's all you're good for. LOL!

You must need glasses, though; because I did answer your question sans links at 12:41 p.m.; but it seems you were too quick to post what you think is witty (it's not).

I was wondering when some...person would bring that up. Seeing as Mr. Cohen used deception to get his "piece" it figures; it also figures you'd be the type to watch that drivel. LOL!

But Ron Paul is a gentleman and good sport as always! The link below covers this very topic; so sorry you're link clicking, and cut 'n paste challenged, Bob. ;)

Ron Paul discusses his Bruno appearance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udDqu9IyCjM "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Jun 28, 2009 4:10 PM:

" wtf should stand for Want To Forget, as in you want to forget the original question and instead post a bunch of off-topic BS -- again! Oh well, I tried...

Can't wait to see what Sasha Baron Cohen does to Ron Paul in the Bruno movie. "

wtf wrote on Jun 28, 2009 1:11 PM:

" This picture pretty much sums up Obama AND Bush Jr. as well as ALL the politicos who are supposed to be representing Americans….can you say sponsors? I read somewhere, forget where, that politicians should be required to wear sponsors decals when campaigning so Americans know who to vote for. Personally, I think it’s a GREAT idea.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a-Su2SAnGYU/SkeLTN2EkAI/AAAAAAAAKbI/HCsiQlTewYs/s1600-h/obama%27s+new+clothes.jpg "

wtf wrote on Jun 28, 2009 1:11 PM:

" And, sadly, for the Obama lovers, he is, once again, echoing Bush Jr. with signing statements even though the embedded video in the link below shows Obama saying he would NOT use signing statements ala Bush.

http://fraudonomics.blogspot.com/2009/06/obama-signing-statements-liar.html

Make sure to watch the video in the preceding link, then look at this story: Obama issues signing statement on $106B war bill

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-issues-signing-statement-on-106b-war-bill-2009-06-26.html "

wtf wrote on Jun 28, 2009 1:10 PM:

" And last I heard, a lot of distressed homeowners are ***still*** losing their homes. For those who want to know what’s in the Cap and Trade bill itself, here’s a link to the bill in its entirety….read to your heart’s content….all 1,201 pages….300+ of which were added at the last minute.

http://www.rules.house.gov/111/LegText/111_hr2454_sub.pdf

The link below is to a short video on the hidden history of bank meddling in the U.S. government. A must see because it has a lot to do with everything else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USGSOViaulc "

wtf wrote on Jun 28, 2009 1:10 PM:

" Ah! But, turns out, we **do** know where some of the TARP funds ended up. Remember them? The funds that were supposed to help banks help distressed home owners?

“The hurried legislation adopted by a Congress voting under the threat of sudden global economic collapse led to hidden tax breaks for firms in dozens of industries. They included builders of Nascar auto-racing tracks, restaurant chains such as Burger King Holdings Inc., movie and television producers - and London’s Diageo….the world’s largest liquor distiller.”

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/british-rum-maker-got-27-billion-payo "

wtf wrote on Jun 28, 2009 1:09 PM:

" For those who don’t mind BS links as Bob put it, here is expanded info on this subject.

Before the Cap and Trade Bill was voted on, John Boenher proved the climate bill was trash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rPpSdCMGAA

With 300+ pages added at the last minute so that the congress critters didn’t get a chance to read the bill. Can you say shades of TARP? The PATRIOT Act? One American is quite distressed over this, mentioning that we still don’t know where all of the TARP money went.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt4R6TQJjg8&feature=channel_page "

wtf wrote on Jun 28, 2009 12:41 PM:

" What will do it? How about **less** government intrusion via regulation, etc. Free up some of the onerous restrictions placed on innovators. We have a lot of creative, smart, people in the U.S.; however, there are usually so many gov mandated hoops to jump through, that a lot of these inventors are priced out of competition.

In other words, relax certain gov stipulations so that the creators can create. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Jun 27, 2009 10:10 PM:

" wtf -- yes, yes, yes, you don't want to pay for anything. Not a very original opinion around here. My question, which you did not answer, was what is your alternative solution to this legislation? I already knew you didn't like it. "

wtf wrote on Jun 27, 2009 4:31 PM:

" Quite simple, Bob. This bill is only a charade so that polluting corporations can buy "carbon credits" in order for them to pollute. It "sounds" good; but there will be the usual funny business and it will end up that we, as citizens, will pay for it - all for the "greater good" of course; but the usual suspects will go on polluting.

We don't need a bill saying don't pollute in order to be good stewards of the earth. If corporations were sincere about alternative energies, they would have ALREADY budgeted for it in their R&D; but, NO, we allegedly "need" legislation which translates in my book to the gov's hand in my pocket...again.

I don't think so. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Jun 27, 2009 3:32 PM:

" ....and don't give me BS links. I want to hear it in your own words, not someone else's. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Jun 27, 2009 3:31 PM:

" Okay Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, I'll bite. You say you want a cleaner environment but this climate bill won't do it. What will do it then? "

wtf wrote on Jun 27, 2009 12:25 PM:

" Gore, self-proclaimed Patron Saint of the Environment, buys his carbon off-sets from himself–the Generation Investment Management LLP, “an independent, private, owner-managed partnership established in 2004 with offices in London and Washington, D.C., of which he is both chairman and founding partner. The Generation Investment Management business has considerable influence over the major carbon credit trading firms that currently exist, including the Chicago Climate Exchange."


And another excellent article here:

http://www.statejournal.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=61769 "

wtf wrote on Jun 27, 2009 12:25 PM:

" As reported in

http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/2009/03/30/obama-maurice-strong-al...

"The “privately-owned” Chicago Climate Exchange is heavily influenced by Obama cohorts Al Gore and Maurice Strong.

For years now Strong and Gore have been cashing in on that lucrative cottage industry known as man-made global warming.

Strong is on the board of directors of the Chicago Climate Exchange, Wikipedia-described as “the world’s first and North America’s only legally binding greenhouse gas emission registry reduction system for emission sources and offset projects in North America and Brazil.”

(cont) "

wtf wrote on Jun 27, 2009 12:24 PM:

" Just read this on WRH...excellent observations!

One of the last major pieces of legislation passed by a congress which never actually read the document was the US Patriot Act.

And we know just how much of a body blow to the Constitution and Bill of Rights that was.

This is a complete fraud, and will do nothing to actually help the environment.

It will, with what will be essentially a surcharge on energy you use, make certain individuals more filthy rich than they already are.

(cont) "

wtf wrote on Jun 27, 2009 12:18 PM:

" While I DO want a cleaner environment, this will not do it. Obama, Gore, and others have all been involved in these new trading exchanges for so-called carbon credits...just another way for them to rob us.

Think of the recent Wall Street scandals when you think of the "carbon trading exchanges"

Congress rolled over, just barely; sadly enough it was eight Republicans who flipped the vote; but it's not too late to get on the horn to the Senate. "

wtf wrote on Jun 27, 2009 12:18 PM:

" Once again, I have to credit FOX with this info:

Obama Years Ago Helped Fund Carbon Program He Is Now Pushing Through Congress

"In 2000 and 2001, while Barack Obama served as a board member for a Chicago-based charitable foundation, he helped to fund a pioneering carbon trading exchange that is likely to fill a critical role in the controversial cap-and-trade carbon reduction scheme that President Obama is now trying to push rapidly through Congress."

Rest of story:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/25/obama-helped-fund-carbon-scheme/ "

stantaves wrote on Jun 27, 2009 7:45 AM:

" Is that the best you can do? Nearly 100 posts and your contribution is: FOX bad, FOX Stupid. Have you even bothered to watch the "absolute best in the business" as they show the rest of the industry how the "hard news" should be delivered? Now eat your porridge, clean your room, and watch your FOX NEWS -- do it today and you'll start feeling better by tomorrow. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 26, 2009 11:15 PM:

" Jramagic, do you really believe half the crap that comes out of your brain? You spend too much time getting your relevant news off of the E channel, like most lefties. If you're going for the "lower IQ demographic", you wouldn't be seeking "lily-whites". I watch Fox, and I'd be willing to put up a Benjamin that I have a higher IQ than you. "

wtf wrote on Jun 26, 2009 2:01 PM:

" Congress set to vote on mystery bill

"...the House of Representatives is set to pass an energy bill which will be a complete mystery to most of the 435 representatives who will asked to vote on it. Even if your congressman or congresswoman wanted to read it before the vote he or she cannot.the bill was still in the process of being written on Thursday but it will be ready for a final vote sometime Friday."

http://www.examiner.com/x-12465-Washington-County-Independent-Examiner~y2009m6d25-Congress-set-to-vote-on-mystery-bill "

wtf wrote on Jun 26, 2009 2:00 PM:

" jramagic, I agree with you regarding FOX news; however, in the following link, they are right on the money. I say this because I fact checked what FOX is saying with other sources.

$700 - $1400 more per year per family in increased energy costs....yeah, this is something us folk in Lodi really need...NOT!

Obama Admits Cap & Trade Will Cause Electricity Rates to Skyrocket

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xOxwW4Toio "

jramagic wrote on Jun 26, 2009 7:55 AM:

" FOX "news" is targeted at the lower IQ demographic. Really- they are going after the lily-white, cookie-cutter, God-fearing, flag-waving, don't think- just follow, blind-faith crowd. Their platform is unquestioning "nationalizm" & "patriotizm". It is chock-full of right-wing garbage that anybody who's skull is more than 1/2 full of brain can see is pure junk. Hannity, for example. The Joseph Goebbels of this era, when the Bush Virus was scourging this land. "

Lodian wrote on Jun 25, 2009 2:41 PM:

" anthropis wrote "what doesn't make sense to me is people who apparently perceive words and meanings not contained in a blog and then commenting on such phantom words."

anthropis: I see that you have been reading Brian's blog comments. All he does is invent responses and then address said phantom responses. Weird. It's what he does when he can't debate the issues. He invents in an attempt to save face. He often falls on his face! LOL! "

wtf wrote on Jun 25, 2009 12:59 PM:

" As for my agreement with Leonard's posts...are you too lazy to look up the dates and times listed? :) "

wtf wrote on Jun 25, 2009 12:57 PM:

" anthropis wrote: "I think Brian makes sense, what doesn't make sense to me is people who apparently perceive words and meanings not contained in a blog and then commenting on such phantom words."

Glad he makes sense to you, anthropis. I also have to agree with your statement, "...people who apparently perceive words and meanings not contained in a blog and then commenting on such phantom words."

Kind of reminds me of Brian's post to me when he said, "wtf, Do I have to remind you that the last word in the title of the left wind radical group "The Nation of Islam" means SURRENDER?"

Brian, in this post was perceiving something I never wrote on this blog and commenting on it....so, yeah, he was talking out his *ss. LOL! "

stantaves wrote on Jun 25, 2009 12:31 PM:

" Sorry sam, Cogito is right. Barak was, in all likelyhood, swayed by comments from the right -- but only after his PR people told him how he should be reacting. When are you going to figure it out? this man is a hollow suit who believes he can borrow his way out of trouble. Be careful Sam, he's coming for you. "The spider came creeping while we slept; pigs watched in silence as he crept. Now you know not what to do; the "Octobama" is wrapped around you. And with his beak he sucks you dry; 'til all that's left is the question, why?" "

Giovanina wrote on Jun 25, 2009 12:18 PM:

" Leonard makes many, many, statements of "guilt by association" regardless of how distant that association is. Leonard thinks that because some white racist showed up at a tea party, that all tea partiers are racists.

The Tea parties were only organized by idea, location and time, and not really by membership. That's why all kinds of people, that live in America. showed up.

Leonard lives in Texas, and there are probably secessionists that Leonard deals with everyday. Guilt by association, right? Leonard, you secessionist.

Leonard also has mobaphobia, don't know the real name but you get the point, or fear mob rule. More than one person is a mob for Leonard. LOL Unfortunately, he thinks that a left wing mob is better than a right wing mob. He will say he doesn't like either, but it has already been pointed out by another, that his statements prove that this happens. "

Giovanina wrote on Jun 25, 2009 12:12 PM:

" anthropis wrote on Jun 25, 2009 10:51 AM:

" I think Brian makes sense, what doesn't make sense to me is people who apparently perceive words and meanings not contained in a blog and then commenting on such phantom words. "

LOL, yes, we have quite a few hippies in here. Hippies as in Hypocrites.

You have to call them on it quite a few times, then they start to fade away in the comment section.

Happens to me quite a bit. I post, then the hypocrite does an internet search on my name, and makes his hypocritical statements. I enlighten the hypocrite on their own hypocrisy, then they fade away til the next article. It has become SOP. lol "

anthropis wrote on Jun 25, 2009 10:51 AM:

" I think Brian makes sense, what doesn't make sense to me is people who apparently perceive words and meanings not contained in a blog and then commenting on such phantom words. "

wtf wrote on Jun 25, 2009 9:14 AM:

" Thanks for the beautiful definition, sam.

As usual, Brian, you're not making a lick of sense and talking out your posterior orifice. "

voter wrote on Jun 25, 2009 8:48 AM:

" Brian, I can't figure out whether you view the women's rights movement as a good or bad thing. It sounds like you support it for women in other countries where it won't threaten your manhood, but not here.

Also, why do you need to drag sexuality, particularly homosexuality, into every discussion? It's on your mind a lot. "

voter wrote on Jun 25, 2009 8:31 AM:

" I see. Now you're claiming that Susan B. Anthony and the rest of the suffragettes risking life and limb were fronting for their gay brethren? "

Brian wrote on Jun 25, 2009 8:23 AM:

" Voter,

Alot of the women's rights movement was just a front for the gay rights movement.
To this day, the women's rights movement could care less about the rights of women in the Middle East.
That being said, I'm not a lefty.

I'm anxiously awaiting how you distort my response. :) "

voter wrote on Jun 25, 2009 8:13 AM:

" Will wonders never cease. Brian, a champion of women's rights. You sound like a lefty. "

Brian wrote on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 AM:

" Nextel wrote on Jun 24, 2009 9:25 PM:

" With all this dissatisfaction in Obama and the Dem's, it's good to see that the RepubliCons are getting back to Family values. You got the Republican Luv Guv completely off the grid in another Country casting shadows on a spicy little side dish while his State, Family and Staffers wonder WTF is he? Then You have John Ensign (R-Nev) an outspoken family values Christian dipping his pen in Company ink while having a sordid financial relationship with the girls family. Scandal-fatigue is alive and well in this Grand Ol Party that's trying to polish the same old turd. "

-Well, we all have our crosses to bare.
I'm not too sure I can say the left doesn't have as many double standards as the right. "

Brian wrote on Jun 25, 2009 8:04 AM:

" Well Sam,
I can't think of another religon where people, especially women, have to surrender so many of their rights as Islam. "

sam wrote on Jun 25, 2009 7:24 AM:

" The literal meaning of the word "Islam" is:

peace; surrender of one’s will i.e. losing oneself for the sake of God and surrendering one’s own pleasure for the pleasure of God. "

Brian wrote on Jun 25, 2009 7:03 AM:

" wtf,
Do I have to remind you that the last word in the title of the left wind radical group
"The Nation of Islam" means SURRENDER? "

wtf wrote on Jun 25, 2009 6:58 AM:

" Leonard, I knew ***exactly*** what you were saying on Jun 24, 2009 at 8:05 PM and on Jun 23, 2009 at 6:44 AM. Thank you; you are right on the mark with your comments! "

Brian wrote on Jun 25, 2009 6:53 AM:

" Leonard wrote:
The agenda of any group is at least partly generated by its membership. Here in Texas, the membership of the Teabaggers seems to be heavily seeded with white supremacists, militia members and other right wing whack jobs.

-I am hard pressed to find any radical left wing groups that are as intent
on preserving our freedoms and defending the constitution. They're still on the Obama Train of Change. I'm reminded all too often that they were glad too see Czar Bush gone so they could roll out the red carpet for Dictator Obama. Oh, but they insist that the bumps in the road will soon smooth out. Yeah, when has a dictator
been good for the people? "

Brian wrote on Jun 25, 2009 6:37 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Jun 24, 2009 8:05 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 12:51 PM:
" So Leonard, your saying that tax protesters are all racists?

No, I am saying that the movement has been co-opted by the radical right. I thought that was evident from my post. "

-Yes, It is evident from many of your posts, from the most recent to the distant past, you are more likely to offer criticsm of the right. When the occasion comes up, we'd be hard pressed to find you criticisng any group co-opted by the ACLU, the Anti-defamation League, NAMBLA, ACORN. Ch the list is numerous. Can you at least acknowledge
that the radical left has far more groups that are just outright Un-American and Anti-American than the radical right? I know I may be asking too much. "

Nextel wrote on Jun 24, 2009 9:25 PM:

" With all this dissatisfaction in Obama and the Dem's, it's good to see that the RepubliCons are getting back to Family values. You got the Republican Luv Guv completely off the grid in another Country casting shadows on a spicy little side dish while his State, Family and Staffers wonder WTF is he? Then You have John Ensign (R-Nev) an outspoken family values Christian dipping his pen in Company ink while having a sordid financial relationship with the girls family. Scandal-fatigue is alive and well in this Grand Ol Party that's trying to polish the same old turd. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 24, 2009 8:05 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 12:51 PM:
" So Leonard, your saying that tax protesters are all racists?


No, I am saying that the movement has been co-opted by the radical right. I thought that was evident from my post. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 4:06 PM:

" Wish I was you Sam. I'll be here till 7ish. Then I have to give the government 47% of it. "

sam wrote on Jun 24, 2009 3:27 PM:

" Cog, thanks for the banter... and have a great afternoon.

I am closing shop and hitting the swimming pool. "

sam wrote on Jun 24, 2009 3:25 PM:

" well Cog, we agree on money. I LOVE making it.

I hate what we did with Car Bailout. I hate what Bush did with AIG. The fact we could "not let them fail"is a line anyone could use about Walmart...

I hate that for the last 8 years we had a budget that did NOT include the wars... nor did it include National disasters.. like Katrina.

I know things are turning around. My investments are recovering rapidly. My business was not hurt by this downfall yet in the past few months it has been growing rapidly... no complaints.

... and having a Masters in math, I actually DO understand the word trillion.

I am not "keeping my fingers crossed"... but I do pray for our President and for our country. WE ARE TOO GREAT TO FAIL. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 3:23 PM:

" Voter, Maybe they're confused because he acts like one;-) "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 3:20 PM:

" Well Voter, welcome back. It's amazing how traveling can wear a person out. Usually I need a few days off after a vacation to reestablish my circadian rhythms and hepatic function. But I usually have to go back to work the next day. Nothing will reestablish chronobiological normalcy like routine. Hope you had fun, and everything went well. I have 10 days off coming up soon, I can't wait! "

voter wrote on Jun 24, 2009 3:19 PM:

" On the Fox News issue: screen shots are going up all over the internet showing Fox NEWS reports labeling disgraced governor Mark Sanford as a DEMOCRAT. "

voter wrote on Jun 24, 2009 3:12 PM:

" Have to laugh, I posted once from a hotel and family members extracted me by force! "

voter wrote on Jun 24, 2009 3:10 PM:

" I was in town on Thursday and most of Friday--way jet lagged though. On Friday night, we left again for a couple of days in the city for a family obligation. I've had three separate vacations strung together with only about a day or so between. I'm ready to get back to work and the normal routine--that's enough traveling. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 3:05 PM:

" Sam, I agree about Bush's arrogance. And I don't hate the President, I just don't like his ideas. I'm a capitalist who likes a less intrusive government and more personal freedom. I don't believe that is what he stands for. And Voter, if you've been away from the internet until the last few days, how do you explain postings in your name last Thursday and Friday? Maybe your definition of "few" is different than most. "

sam wrote on Jun 24, 2009 2:55 PM:

" Hey, you have made it clear that you do not like him.

I am supporting him. He is my President.

take care ! "

sam wrote on Jun 24, 2009 2:53 PM:

" Cog, are you seriousl?

I saw that. They were implying that he spoke out ONLY because McCain said too. He has been speaking out since last Thursday. His words got stronger after the young girl was shot.

I did not think it was arrogant at all. He has a different style than President Bush (the cowboy, tough guy.. which I liked... until Iraq).

Watch the entire press conference... or not. "

sam wrote on Jun 24, 2009 2:48 PM:

" With all the access we have to information, it is quite easy to find out what is SPIN and what is the truth.

You have made it clear that you cannot stand our president. I understand that. I had the same feeling towards Clinton.

Peace Out "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 2:47 PM:

" Sam, Reagan was a lot better of a President than he was an actor. Plus, yesterday when Obama was asked if he was heeding the advice of McCain (someone you have to admit, has way more experience than Obama on these matters), he responded "what do YOU think!, Which was met with hilarity by his sycophantic press buddies. It was arrogant in my opinion. But he is at least talking tougher on Iran, which is what McCain said we need to do. "

voter wrote on Jun 24, 2009 2:40 PM:

" Thanks for the FACTS, Sam. I have been gone most of the month, out of contact with news and internet until the last few days, and it will take some time to sort out what's going on. Mostly too busy to catch up, so appreciate the straight scoop. "

sam wrote on Jun 24, 2009 2:40 PM:

" Cog, here is another "MISS QUOTE" from today.

President Obama was asked why he wasn't taking more of a stand against Iran, like McCain has. He said that McCain is not the president. That Obama was . He said that once this is over has to deal with the Iranian leaders. He then said his duty is to keep our country safe.

Afterwards I watched FOX (I try to watch or listen to a variety while I work). Their SPIN was that he was arrogant and said... "he( McCain) is not the president. I am."

They failed to play the entire sound bite. He actually said it twice, but his complete message was the same. "

sam wrote on Jun 24, 2009 2:26 PM:

" Cog said "As far as Obama's face, he's a good actor. "

Well one of my favorite presidents was President Reagan... oh yeah.. he was not an actor either ?

I think all good leaders have to be an actor to an extent, or a least great poker player. "

sam wrote on Jun 24, 2009 2:23 PM:

" As for Korea, I am watching. I do not for one minute think he is ignoring it.

I have not cancelled my trip to Hawaii yet. "

sam wrote on Jun 24, 2009 2:18 PM:

" So reiterating lies is ok?

Seriously, you are an intelligent person... do some research. I know you love to clown around and if that is the case, go for it. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 2:09 PM:

" Sam, North Korea is shaping up potentially to be Obama's Cuban Missile Crisis. He ignores it at his, and our peril. That little wingnut has more than the capacity to do something stupid. He knows China will back him. They don't want fallout wafting over their country. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 2:05 PM:

" Sam, I was just reiterating what was printed in today's Washington Post. As far as Obama's face, he's a good actor. He has a lot of people convinced that he has a clue about what he's doing, and that takes ACTING! ( think John Lovitz);-) "

sam wrote on Jun 24, 2009 1:41 PM:

" ... and seriously, Kim Il-sung should have his picture in the dictionary next to the phrase "Little Man Syndrome".
"A man, small in stature, who attempts to overcome the way he believes other people perceive him (as a diminuative character) by 1) attaching himself to authority figures, 2) trying to manipulate himself into positions of control, 3) migrating toward positions of leadership, and 4) having a fairly volatile temper." "

sam wrote on Jun 24, 2009 1:40 PM:

" I also appreciate President Obama IGNORING the idiot North Korean "little man" in the news.
I think the more the press puts Kim Il-sung in the news, the more that little man thinks he is bullying us.

I do not believe for one moment that President Obama is ignoring the situation. "

sam wrote on Jun 24, 2009 1:31 PM:

" ... and FYI, President Obama did not know in advance what that question was. It was obvious by his face. "

sam wrote on Jun 24, 2009 1:13 PM:

" I DID watch the entire press conference today instead of just reading someone's "spin".

The reporter from the Huffington Post has been in reading and reporting the twitter blogs non-stop. He was asked ahead of time if he would like to pose a question from an Iranian. THAT WAS THE QUESTION President Obama was referring to. It was NOT the reporters. As it was, he did not give a complete answer because the Iranian asked how can WE, the US, help them.

I appreciate our president staying out of Iran's election.

Watch a press conference before you attack it. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 12:51 PM:

" So Leonard, your saying that tax protesters are all racists? I'll let that logic stand by itself. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 12:50 PM:

" You got an example of a lie here Billy? Or are you just speaking out of your sphincter as usual. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Jun 24, 2009 12:33 PM:

" Leonard, regarding your 4:37am post: "Teabagger" and "tainted" in the same sentence. Heheheh. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 24, 2009 12:13 PM:

" **Supposed** plants?

I ask questions of you, Cog, in an on-going effort to reveal the depths of your willingness to lie (there is so far no limit in sight). "

Leonard wrote on Jun 24, 2009 12:11 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 9:19 PM:

If the Klan shows up at a bowling alley, are we henceforth to assume that bowling is a sport whose participants are racists?


No, but if White Supremacists help organize the league, participate in writing the rules and give speeches at the meetings, I'm going to guess that they have something to do with it.

Don't pour tea on my head and tell me its raining. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 24, 2009 12:09 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 8:27 AM:
" Billy, the reporter from Huffington was invited there by the White House, escorted into the press room by staff, and was GIVEN a question to ask.


Cog, Scott Mcllelan admitted that this was standard operating procedure in the Bush Whitehouse and, while I would not be entirely surprised to know that it happens in other Administrations, I am curious.

In this specific instance, how do you know? "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 10:36 AM:

" No, thank YOU Billy, now the room seems to be 95% filled with left wing prostitutes. Bush took a lot of flak from the msm over his supposed plants, Obama will get nary a discouraging word. Billy, why dont you get off of your intellectual laziness and check for yourself. Try Googling "Obama press conference huffington post reporter". Read the Washing Post article, it's goooooood. "

stantaves wrote on Jun 24, 2009 10:18 AM:

" The good news is that more and more people are waking-up to the insanity being perpetrated from the "left". Even the Europeans are starting to look sideways at Obama -- you got to know things are crumbling at that point. The question then might be, what will we find after the dust from his political failure settles? OIL! And Barak Obama will have no choice but to go and get it! -- That is if he wants 4 more, and we know he does. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 24, 2009 10:13 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 8:10 AM:"Billy, what do you think would have happened if Bush went to a reporter from The Drudge Report as the penultimate reporter in the room?"

Is that a gift question, Cog?
OK, you mean like when Bush went to Jeff Gannon, the right-wing male prostitute posing as a reporter, who could be counted on to ask puffball questions?

You still didn't answer my question - what did the reporter ask? Is it the question that pisses you off or that Huffington post was there? Did your favorite, FOX, get turned away? Who was blocked because Huffington got to ask a question? "

stantaves wrote on Jun 24, 2009 9:51 AM:

" Nicely done Gwen. They say that you can't go back, and maybe they're right. Are we headed for a constitutional crisis? Maybe, but unraveling something that perfect is going to take more than just "hope" coming from a leftist with a vision. Just look at the mess already! Barak says that "we" can transform the world. Yeah!!! but into what for Gods sake? Barak says that we can make it "smart","green", and "healthy". "Hurray!!!", they all say, "long live Barak". Okay, this is how stupid it all really is: Barak must go to the Chinese -- hat in hand -- and ask them to finance his big transformitive dream. They look at him with genuine curiosity and ask, "what are you going to put in the game, Barak"? And he answers, "America". You see, what we are looking at right now is the biggest gamble this nation has ever faced. If Obama is right, and he is able to make govt operate effectively and efficiently, then he will go down as Americas greatest leader. However, if he fails, the dollar will surely collapse which will likely lead to some kind of totalitarian re-orginization -- aka "constitutional crisis". "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 9:42 AM:

" Anthropis, some people fail to differentiate between news and commentary. "O'Reilly", "Meet the Press", "The Beltway Boys", and "Countdown with Keith Olberman" are all commentary shows. They only give us their opinions of the news, but some people think they're the news. "

anthropis wrote on Jun 24, 2009 9:28 AM:

" Cogito, I await a response as well from
jrs for it is my belief that Fox News reports news in the tradition of journalistic guidelines. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 9:20 AM:

" Jrs, could you provide us with an example of extremism on a Fox show that does just news reporting? By the way, O'Reilly and Hannity are not news, but commentary shows, like Larry King. "

jrs wrote on Jun 24, 2009 9:14 AM:

" Nextel: Excellent remarks. I echo your sentiments. I have always had so much respect for Ms. Paden and her columns, but the assertion that if one really wants to know what's going on, one should "watch Fox News" is beyond the pale. Yes, there is major bias in most mainstream media outlets, but Fox News is the same extremism on another end of the spectrum. But, Ms. Paden, good comments in your last few paragraphs. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 8:27 AM:

" Billy, the reporter from Huffington was invited there by the White House, escorted into the press room by staff, and was GIVEN a question to ask. Obama pointed to him and asked "do you have a question?" He should have said "hey, go ahead and ask that question we gave you to ask me". That question was about Iran submitted by an Iranian. The first question was asked by a reporter from the Associated Press. Do you really feel a promised "transparency" being delivered to the American people by this administration? "

wtf wrote on Jun 24, 2009 8:18 AM:

" Gwin, I have to agree with Nextel, your last four paragraphs are excellent! This is what America is about. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 8:17 AM:

" Billy, we find out today, that North Korea has threatened to "wipe US off the map". Plus they're commencing with multiple missile testing despite protests from us and our allies. Our Navy ships are tailing their ships as we suspect they're transporting illicit weapons to other countries. Yet Obama doesn't get asked a single question. Was the press negligent in their duties? Or was there a memo handed out with allowed questions, ones with teleprompted answers. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 8:10 AM:

" Billy, what do you think would have happened if Bush went to a reporter from The Drudge Report as the penultimate reporter in the room? The msm would have thrown fits over the person even being there, let alone allowed to ask questions. The only difference between Drudge and Huffington is that Drudge has a lot bigger audience. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 24, 2009 6:57 AM:

" I didn't get your point, Cog.

Who asked the FIRST question of Obama? Was no one allowed to ask a third? What was the question asked by the the person you despise from Huffington? And, most importantly, what was Obama's answer? Was it the question or the answer that so outrages you? "

Cogito wrote on Jun 24, 2009 1:11 AM:

" Nextel, did you see or hear the sham called a press conference today? It was so obviously orchestrated it was disgusting. The Obama loving press fawned and laughed with their leader. What was glaringly absent was a single question pertaining to a missile launch towards Hawaii threatened by North Korea. The President took his second question not from ABC, NBC, CBS, or even FOX, no not from the NY Times, The Washington Post, The Boston Globe, or the Los Angeles Times. No he took it from a reporter from that serious news source The Huffington Post. How embarrassing for our country that such a joke is getting to ask the second question at a press conference. this guy is in waaaaaay over his head. "

anthropis wrote on Jun 23, 2009 11:37 PM:

" Nextel, I find the subject of your post to be inverted to reality; the main stream media dispenses news as if it was controlled by the Democratic National Convention where journalistic investigative reporting appears to be dead. On the other hand Fox News generally reports both sides rather allowing it's audience to decide. "

dogbark wrote on Jun 23, 2009 11:00 PM:

" I use flag day to recall two important facts: first,
the founding patriots of our country had already fought for two years without a flag, because they knew what they were fighting for.
Second, that I learned the flag pledge before it, and our national motto, were hijacked by the red-baiters. "

Nextel wrote on Jun 23, 2009 9:53 PM:

" Gwin, Fox News has descended so far from objective journalism that it only provides small scraps of actual information. Like Ishmael in Herman Melville's Moby Dick or Nick in F. Scott Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby, Fox News is a modern day example of the "unreliable narrator." Fox places an acute spin in nearly every story and in some cases presents untruths as truth. Fox is a running commentary on the News rather than traditional objective reporting. That said, I enjoyed and agree with the last four paragraphs of Your letter. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 9:19 PM:

" Leonard, I did not expect you to defend NAMBLA. What they endorse is a crime. Being a bigot, and a white supremacist is not a crime. If the Klan shows up at a bowling alley, are we henceforth to assume that bowling is a sport whose participants are racists? Have you been taking logic classes from Janeane Garofalo? I saw a black man on television being interviewed at a local tea party, how would someone with your point of view explain THAT one? "

Leonard wrote on Jun 23, 2009 7:58 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 5:23 PM:
" Leonard, you started off this string insinuating that since some far right groups show up at the tea parties, that the tea party organizers therefore endorse the Klan and others.


The agenda of any group is at least partly generated by its membership. Here in Texas, the membership of the Teabaggers seems to be heavily seeded with white supremacists, militia members and other right wing whack jobs.

It may well be that things are different in Lodi and that Ms. Paden is representative of the group in your area but, unless the politics of Northern San Joaquin County have changed radically in the last three years, I sincerely doubt it. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 23, 2009 5:39 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 3:09 PM:
" Leonard, the thing is, the Klan isn't murdering people as an ongoing process. NAMBLA is surrently seeking to molest children


Cog, your defense of the Ku Klux Klan may be impassioned and eloquent but it will not move me to a similar defense of NAMBLA.

The members of NAMBLA disgust me and, if half of what I believe in is true, they will burn in a fiery Hell for all of eternity for their sins.

That said, while Jesus Christ taught us that to sin in your heart was just the same as sinning in fact, the American legal system requires that a man actually be convicted of a crime before he is stripped of his rights. Nice as it might be to disenfranchise people for merely being members of NAMBLA, how long would it be after that until we started imprisoning other people that the majority of Americans find repulsive, like Bush apologists and Limbuggers? "

Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 5:25 PM:

" By the way Ms. Paden, your column is the most well written and intellectually consistent offering in the LNS. I'm a big fan. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 5:23 PM:

" Leonard, you started off this string insinuating that since some far right groups show up at the tea parties, that the tea party organizers therefore endorse the Klan and others. If you use your line of thinking, that means because you defend, and endorse, the ACLU, that must mean you endorse everyone they defend, such as NAMBLA. And, in fact, Rush Limbaugh, because the ACLU defended his right to Doctor/ patient confidentially or something to that effect. People like me who endorse the idealism behind the tea parties, do not endorse the Klan or anything for which they stand. Although, I do endorse the Klans right to exist, just as I do MECHA. Guilt by association is not applicable in this case. Thanks for playing along and making my point. "

sourwine wrote on Jun 23, 2009 3:35 PM:

" Cavuto, Beck! What are you drinking young lady? You forgot O'Reilly,Barnes,
Morris, Miller, Hume, Barnes. How nuts
can you get? Take a rest Ms Paden! "

Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 3:09 PM:

" Leonard, the thing is, the Klan isn't murdering people as an ongoing process. NAMBLA is surrently seeking to molest children. The Klan is just a bunch of racists preaching hate. Much like Obama's buddy, and mentor, for 20 plus years, Jeremiah Wright. They both have a right to preach what they want, whether we like it or not. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 23, 2009 2:37 PM:

" For the record, I do not like NAMBLA, Operation Rescue or Hannerty. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 23, 2009 2:36 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 1:23 PM:
" Don't forget Leonard, they also defended the right for a group of child molesters named NAMBLA to hold their meetings in public libraries.


NAMBLA, Operation Rescue, Sean Hannerty... the list goes on.

Its easy to defend the rights of people you like. It takes real commitment and cajones to defend the rights of people you despise.

Still, if the Constitution was only for the people we like, it wouldn't be worth the hemp based paper its written on. "

anthropis wrote on Jun 23, 2009 2:08 PM:

" In my opinion the ACLU is a progressive organization that uses the Constitution of the United States to progress the America people away from their traditional values. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 1:26 PM:

" Leonard, do you have anything other than a guess to back up the "tens of thousands" statement regarding Democrat Senator Robert "Sheets" Byrds former organization? "

Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 1:23 PM:

" Don't forget Leonard, they also defended the right for a group of child molesters named NAMBLA to hold their meetings in public libraries. That may be someone you'd defend, but not me. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 23, 2009 12:40 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 9:28 AM:
" No Leonard, I see those groups as left wing equivalents to the Klan, not the tea party protesters. ELF would be another good example, as would the ACLU


What an absurd statement. To compare the ACLU, an organization which has consistently defended the free speech of BOTH conservative and liberal groups to the KKK, a group that has murdered thousands if not tens of thousands of innocent Americans is simply ridiculous.

You know Cog, when you go over the top like this I sometimes think that you have simply been Limbuggered until you are both senseless and sore. "

anthropis wrote on Jun 23, 2009 10:22 AM:

" I have noticed that those who vilify the Fox News Channel, including the President of the United States, never focus on the specific subject matter they disagree with. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 9:28 AM:

" No Leonard, I see those groups as left wing equivalents to the Klan, not the tea party protesters. ELF would be another good example, as would the ACLU. Just out of curiosity, was one of those Klansmen Democrat Senator Robert Byrd? Because rumor has it that he's no longer a Klan member and recruiter. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 23, 2009 8:48 AM:

" Jerome, no one is telling you that you can't teabag. Hell, if you wanted to link hands with the KKK, the Northern Texas Militia and the Sons of the New Confederacy and march down main street, the ACLU would probably defend your right to do so.

The question is one of propriety. Flag Day is a celebration of patriotism for all Americans. For one radical far right group to seize control of that day for its own twisted political ends is inappropriate (although completely legal).

No one is denying you the right to snivel, whine and pour forth your hateful bile in public. All we are saying is that you shouldn't be surprised if you are met with revulsion and disgust when you do so. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 23, 2009 8:37 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 8:28 AM:
" And if you want to find out about omission in the news, read one of Bernard Goldbergs books. The msm shelves stories that make either the left, or certain groups, look bad all the time.


If you somehow think that Fox News and Rupert Murdoch aren't just another part of the mainstream corporate media, then you just haven't been paying attention.

Fox News and CNBC are just different sides of the same corporate coin, serving the same purpose for the same masters. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 23, 2009 8:34 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 8:24 AM:
" Leonard, would you have been happier if some "Earth First" members shown up? How about some militant gay groups like "Qu**r Nation"?


I find this statement quite revealing. Are these really the groups that you see as left wing equivalents of the Teabaggers?

Frankly, if I had to think of a leftist corollary to the Klan, it would be something more like the E.L.F. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 8:28 AM:

" And if you want to find out about omission in the news, read one of Bernard Goldbergs books. The msm shelves stories that make either the left, or certain groups, look bad all the time. There's even a story about how a murder wasn't reported because the perp was a minority, and they'd already ran too many negative stories about minorities that week. "

Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 8:24 AM:

" Leonard, would you have been happier if some "Earth First" members shown up? How about some militant gay groups like "Qu**r Nation"? Maybe George Soros? The 1st Amendment guarantees freedom to assemble. These events are not based on invitation. Anyone can come, and anyone can stay home. Who shows up is not the fault of the organizer. "

Jerome R. Kinderman wrote on Jun 23, 2009 7:47 AM:

" Yeah, that "free speech" thingy in the Constitution sure does get in the way, doesn't it? Nothing was "hijacked" on Flag Day at the Veteran's Memorial. Anyone who had something to say had the right to grab the microphone and speak their mind.

Once again I'm reminded of the time during the previous administration where we were admonished about not standing in the way of critical discourse about not only our president, but the government in general. In spite of the vitriol and hateful language directed at our president then, I supported the notion, just as I had before Hillary Clinton made the exclamation and as I do now. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 23, 2009 6:44 AM:

" You know, its funny but somehow, stories about the groups that are really affiliated with the Teabaggers never seem to make it onto Fox News.

I wonder why.... "

yeah you wrote on Jun 23, 2009 6:28 AM:

" My mother went to the flag rally to support Flag Day and was appalled to see it hijacked by this crowd. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 23, 2009 4:37 AM:

" Here in Texas, the Teabagger Movement has been significantly tainted by the involvement of the Ku Klux Klan and other militia organizations, some of whom have shown up at rallies in full regalia. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 23, 2009 4:34 AM:

" What has been disappointing is that more Lodians have not shown up for these events at the Veterans Plaza, and those who have shown up have been mostly those 55 and older.

Your description of these tea bagger rallies sounds harmless enough but I suspect that most Americans are more than a little sickened by the sentiments being espoused online and in the media by some of the leaders of your movement. "

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