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California schools are failing to make the grade


Saturday, June 20, 2009 5:32 AM PDT

Although Lodi Unified School District passed a budget for next year by using $7.7 million in State Fiscal Stabilization Funding from the federal government, what will happen in future years as California's financial crisis grows is unclear — and frightening.

The deep and ongoing cuts in California's education funding are an assault on what was once the most progressive system in the country.

Exactly 160 years ago, Robert Semple, the president of the California Constitutional Convention, said: "If the people are to govern themselves, they should be qualified to do it. They must be educated, they must educate their children; they must provide means for the diffusion of knowledge and the progress of enlightened principles."

Where, oh where, have those "enlightened principles" gone?

While more than 370,000 California high school seniors graduated in 2008, the state ranks only 40th nationwide in its rate of high school graduates that enter college.

One in five students dropped out of a California high school last year — about the same as the year before, according to state Superintendent Jack O'Connell.

Think about all the millions of taxpayer dollars essentially wasted on those failed students during their primary school years.

Although California is the nation's wealthiest state and home to 20 percent of the world's billionaires, teachers live on the margin. The state's approach to mending education's never ending crisis — cutting jobs and mandating pay cuts — guarantees that teaching will be an ever less attractive career for those high school students who actually make it to college and might pursue education courses.

College-bound students are increasingly fewer. In 2008, the Public Policy Institute of California conducted a survey in which 84 percent of Californians responded that affording college is "somewhat of a problem" for today's students, while 53 percent called it a "big problem." Sixty-six percent of those surveyed believed that the cost of a college education prevents qualified students from enrolling.

One big reason: The California Postsecondary Education Commission found that 18 percent of public college graduates and 29 percent of private college graduates have debt that would exceed manageable levels by accepting a job with earnings equivalent to a teacher's starting salary.

As it is, California teachers have only the 32nd highest salaries in the country when adjusted for cost of living. And like most teachers nationwide, they frequently pay out of pocket for basic classroom tools like pencils and paper.

The continuing assaults on public education undermine the living standards of teachers and school administrators. But more critically, virtually every California resident is negatively impacted because all rely, directly or indirectly, on public schools, colleges and universities to secure a decent education for their children and, as a result, to contribute to society's common good.

California's budget shortfall in its present form stems from the housing and high-tech collapses. But when it comes to money for education, as the old saying goes, "it's always something."

At this late date, Californians can do little to reverse education's downhill trend.

However, I'll recommend the same solution I have put forward for more than 20 years: smaller families, stricter controls on immigration and tougher enforcement of existing immigration laws, all three of which would immediately ease the pressure on California's soaring population.

And, returning to another related theme that I have promoted for as long as I can remember, California's multiple social pressures would be alleviated if the state had fewer residents.

But does anyone out there listen?

Joe Guzzardi retired from the Lodi Unified School District last year. Reach him at guzzjoe@yahoo.com.

Reader Feedback

Pat Maple wrote on Jul 3, 2009 11:46 AM:

" SciFi: You are correct...20% do 80% of the work. It was sometimes like living in the Twilight Zone. Too many parents wait to get the bang for their buck, administrators wait for the teachers to straighten out the kids and the teachers (some) wait for the parental help. In the mean time the students are waiting to see whats going to happen next. What a cycle. "

science8c wrote on Jul 2, 2009 11:40 AM:

" When I was at Delta Sierra 10 years ago we couldn't get more than 6-8 parents at P.T.S.A. meetings including the Vice-Principal and teacher representatives. Yes some schools get good parental support, but a lot don't. Without the parents the teachers really can't get the kids to do their best, or in some cases do anything. "

Observer wrote on Jul 2, 2009 7:56 AM:

" Those were also the days when parent volunteers were readily available. Even in those families where two parents were working.....they were creative and able to spend time in the class every week. "

Lodian wrote on Jul 1, 2009 10:20 PM:

" Yep, Gator and Observer, and every one of those great teachers mentioned would be happy to let you know that they were not awesome all on their own. As terrific as they are/were as teachers they are part of a team effort. They are able to work their wonders because of others that help every single day. They would be the first to tell you so. Like most people of great character they wouldn't take all the credit for student success. "

Observer wrote on Jul 1, 2009 6:42 PM:

" Ah, yes.....the good ol Vinewood days. Mrs. Snider, Finos, Rostomily, Marson, Nakayama, Mr. Woznick and many others I can't remember right now. "

Gator wrote on Jul 1, 2009 6:10 PM:

" Lodian you and I agree one more time.. I know a couple of Teachers that were the best of the best and left the profession because of upper Management of LUSD and the lovely NCLB, totally unfair to the Kids. "

Lodian wrote on Jun 30, 2009 6:35 PM:

" My family has had absolutely wonderful experiences at Vinewood School! They're one of the best schools around. I'd like to add that you can ask any great teacher how he/she accomplishes many an achievement each year with their students and they will graciously tell you that the parents make a huge contribution. Parent volunteers that put in countless hours of work enrich the educational experiences of their students greatly each and every year. "

Lodian wrote on Jun 30, 2009 6:25 PM:

" Lou: It's unfortunate that you think I have some sort of "problem" because I think that a students success comes from a group effort which includes teachers, students, principals, support staff and parents! I would think that someone that professes to be a student advocate would be all too aware of this fact. It's disturbing that you do not acknowledge the efforts of more than just the teachers when it comes to student success. Attack me if you like, but I'll continue to be a parent volunteer regardless of your negative opinion of such volunteers. "

Lou wrote on Jun 29, 2009 9:42 PM:

" Dyan: You are correct tenure can be a great thing. Tenure allows good teachers a chance to be heard (politically speaking) without the fear of being fired for saying it. "

Lou wrote on Jun 29, 2009 9:38 PM:

" Lodian, It appears that something bad has happened to you at Vinewood; I hope you can get it worked out. Drinking, however, is not the answer. Seek help, you are an angry women and your posts speaks of a kind of delirium (and possibly a pathology) that requires some attention.

I am serious, get help. "

dyan wrote on Jun 29, 2009 8:59 PM:

" Tenure can be a good thing as well. Schools today are full of left wing politics. A teacher from another point of view could be fired without tenure simply for having an alternative point of view. Hence why tenure was started in the first place. Case in point: Black professor John McWhorter - UC Berkeley. "

Lodian wrote on Jun 29, 2009 7:02 PM:

" Lou wrote "Lodian, take a deep breath"

Lou: I think you're the one that needs a breath of fresh air. You seem stagnant. Go outside! Maybe to Catalina! ;-) Heck, that website of yours can take care of itself for a few days. lol! Take a vacation. "

Lodian wrote on Jun 29, 2009 6:58 PM:

" Lou: Do you think Vinewood is/was a great school just because of the teachers? NO WAY! In some cases it was despite some really bad teachers. There are some absolutely awesome teachers at Vinewood, but many a student (and parent) has had to struggle through the torture of a couple of really bad apples. And if you think that a principal does not make a difference in the atmosphere of a school you are completely ignorant. Plug in, Lou, and stop this complete wedge-driving between teachers and principals. Educating students is a team effort. One team member cannot function without the other. And none of them can do a great job without the parents! "

Lodian wrote on Jun 29, 2009 6:49 PM:

" Lou wrote "Why do you say that, who makes Vinewood good or bad or something in between?"

Get a cluuuue, Lou!

All involved are what make a school great. To say the teachers are what makes the school is bull! It takes the teachers, the students, the principal, support staff and....listen carefully... THE PARENTS!

You are making teachers out to be saints. They are not. There is a lot more that goes into a great school. "

Lodian wrote on Jun 29, 2009 6:43 PM:

" Lou wrote "Teachers have tenure. Tenure means they have a guaranteed job."


THAT is insane! "

Lodian wrote on Jun 29, 2009 6:42 PM:

" Lou wrote "Hey, Lodian, when you go back to your old school, who do you visit...the principal?"

Man, you've got some heavy duty blinders on there pal. Obviously you feel this way because your wife is a teacher, but geez... open your eyes!

And, yes, as a matter of fact I thought very highly of our school principal and office secretary too. They were the first people I went to see at an elementary school reunion. Of course I had my favorite teachers as well.

Unfortunately the bad teachers can squash a lot of progress made by a student and make the year almost unbearable. It can take quite awhile into the next school year to overcome the negative experiences from a bad teacher. Been there done that. Following a bad year (bad teacher) the new teacher has to help sort it all out. What a shame that the bad teachers are allowed to harm their students year after year because they have tenure. It's shameful and pitiful that this continues. We just have to wait for the bad teachers to retire. The bad ones don't deserve the retirement they will receive. "

Lou wrote on Jun 29, 2009 5:28 PM:

" Lodian, take a deep breath:

Teachers have tenure. Tenure means they have a guaranteed job. Yep, that's controversial, yep, it sounds unfair, yep there are some teachers that shouldn't be teaching.

That said, teachers represent the very heart of any school ...the culture of the school; I will go so far as ...they are the school. You say, Vinewood "was/is" might be a good school. Why do you say that, who makes Vinewood good or bad or something in between? Answer: The teachers do. Without the teachers the school is just so many buildings and managers.

As tough as it is to put up with truly incompetent or lazy teachers (and there are some) for the most part, most teachers are not. Tenure serves a purpose that even must teachers refuse to recognize. Their guaranteed jobs allows them to speak-up and speak-out. And, in this district, there is plenty to talk about...sick buildings, unsafe protocols, poorly written texts, abusive administrators. Hey, Lodian, when you go back to your old school, who do you visit...the principal? "

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 29, 2009 5:15 PM:

" Lou: What I like about tutors for after school is that they can teach to ALL levels of need and brilliance. Good idea. How about student tutors also and pay them a stipend? Maybe a tutorship scholarship???

C-passo: I agree with a lot of what you say...some I do not. Take a look and make sure that you are going into your classroom every day with the good attitude that you often display here.

Dy: The Colorado report is a good one...when you look at the socio/economic demographics it includes the education level of the parent(s)(they did not take into account the single parent dynamic). The lower level of education the less likely the parent is going to be able to help. See the Lou comment above. "

dyan wrote on Jun 29, 2009 4:43 PM:

" It might surprise you that teachers have now been told to teach to the "lowest denominator" because not all "educational environments" are "equal." Don't believe things are this insane? Check with a LHS teacher. "

Observer wrote on Jun 29, 2009 3:55 PM:

" Interesting blog. My children graduated from Lodi schools over ten years ago. In all those years I can only think of one teacher who I believed to be incompetent. I still made my child "tough it out" under the belief that life is full of challenges. I agree with Pat's first comment about "quit teaching to the lowest denominator". That's also why I am so opposed to the termination of the GATE school. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Jun 29, 2009 3:54 PM:

" Contrapasso -- Wouldn't that be nice if you were only responsible for the "good" kids who do their homework? Do you teach at Fantasyland High School? Perhaps The University of Denial? You are responsible for teaching ALL the kids in your classroom, not just the easy ones. Teachers like you who blame students because you can't inspire them make me sick. You need a new job. "

Lodian wrote on Jun 29, 2009 3:13 PM:

" Contrapasso wrote "Teachers are not responsible for students who refuse to do work."

I can agree with you, but there are certainly teachers in the LUSD that do not care as much and do not communicate well with the parents so as to make sure all are on the same page. All need to take responsibility here... student, teacher and parents! "

Lodian wrote on Jun 29, 2009 3:10 PM:

" Gator: Vinewood is still a good school compared to others in Lodi, but it has declined in recent years. "

Lodian wrote on Jun 29, 2009 3:09 PM:

" Lou: You are letting some teachers off way too easy. And why is this something we cannot control? Why the heck not? We should easily be able to get rid of a bad teacher, but it seems that they have to actually molest a kid before they would be fired. And even then they'd probably just be put on probation. Ugh. "

Gator wrote on Jun 29, 2009 1:50 PM:

" My grandson graduated from Lodi high last year.. The stories he told me of eating in class and disrespect of the teachers along with texting in class were beyond belief…The same can be said for the so-called Middle schools,
my neighbor who was a Sub for Millswood said the kids were spoiled rotten
and showed the same lack of respect.. Where Laziness, bad manors and lack of respect come from?? Funny you should ask!! Right from the home…It’s
Just like politics until there is major involvement by the parents it will not only stay like it is it will get worse…Schools are a direct reflection of the
lack of discipline we see in this country to-day.. The I want it my way and I
want it now!! Greed, Laziness the beat goes on…Genius has it’s limits. Stupidity Knows no bounds!!! "

Lou wrote on Jun 29, 2009 9:24 AM:

" Speaking of big salaries "for highly compensated administrators"...how much did Barbara Johnston get as a "parting gift" when she retired last week. In other words, does anyone know what she got in her retirement exit plan?

As we should all remember good old Len spanked us for about a cool million for working his last 6-months at LUSD. Where's he working now, AIG or Merrill Lynch? "

Lou wrote on Jun 29, 2009 9:20 AM:

" There are great teachers, good teachers, average teachers ...and something below average. I have even met one or two that should seek employment somewhere else. That said, our problem isn't the teachers, as I said before we are always going to have a mixed-bag whatever State, Region, Town or District; like every other profession.

Let's talk about what we can control. First on my list, are we using our student's time effectively and efficiently. I know the answer to that one...NO!

Our system of education is badly broken and whatever metric you want to use school and failure has become a compound-word. So, what's next. Change. Change everything. Start with how we spend our money. Would it be better to get rid of the Senior project 300K and about 5 worthless administrators 750K, and hire 100 low-end mentors, tutors and four year teachers...at say $20 per hour.

How do children learn; they work; work must be supervised; their parents can't an won't supervise. We must have an afterschool program dedicated to just completing homework. Brilliant yes? When do we start? "

Contrapasso wrote on Jun 29, 2009 12:07 AM:

" Loblaw: Get a grip. Teachers are not responsible for students who refuse to do work. For someone who claims to be an educator, you certainly don't seem to have a grip on the reality of the situation. I feel kind of sorry for any students in your charge. You exonerate them from any responsibility for their actions. What will happen to these students when they enter the workforce? Will it be the bosses' fault if they don't do their jobs?
I suppose you think teachers are responsible for teen pregnancy, drug use and maybe even the decline of Western Civilization as we know it!!! "

dyan wrote on Jun 28, 2009 9:07 PM:

" Another thing educators ignore are class values. Several years ago, the U of Colorado did a study. Middle class families put formal education as a high priority. lower class families did not.
Middle class families saw gardes as important. Lower class only saw staying out of trouble as important. "

Gator wrote on Jun 28, 2009 7:34 PM:

" The most successful schools are the ones where Parents are fully involved…
I don’t know if it still is but Vinewood was the Class of Lodi before we
Left… tremendous parent involvement.. When I sold my house the first thing listed on the flyer was Vinewood attendance area… The Realtor
Said Vinewood was worth 50,000 on the sale price.. I got that in spades. "

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 28, 2009 5:12 PM:

" Schools have become politicized...no doubt no argument. Vote Them Out. Run for the Board.

Galt High loses 150-200 students each year at the soph/junior level because they go back to Mexico and do not return...fact. They are counted in the drop-out rate.

You are suggesting that we educated them in a different...lay it out for me. You will still need facilities, teachers, programs and whatever else is in demand by the State at the time.

I have suggested that we have cyber-schools and help fund home-schooling. Look at the data on Charter schools...there is not much difference between them and traditional. Give me some of your ideas...I will listen. "

dyan wrote on Jun 28, 2009 3:40 PM:

" You are ignoring the credible argument.
Years of "change." Billions in wasted dollars, the result? The dropout rate remains the same. Not because of "poverty," but because of self-serving bureaucrats trying to hammer square pegs into round holes. The only thing that has "changed" is their salaries - the third highest in the nation behind NY and CT. "

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 28, 2009 10:01 AM:

" So you have nothing more than to attack me? Show me your numbers...show me your data...change my mind. Ask a specific question, I will give you an answer and the place to check it. Otherwise you have no credible argument. "

dyan wrote on Jun 27, 2009 9:11 PM:

" make that "write" "

dyan wrote on Jun 27, 2009 9:10 PM:

" Pat: You should right science fiction. You're quite good at it. "

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 27, 2009 2:52 PM:

" Students don't drop out because they can't pass algebra. When you look at the demographics of those who drop out it is because of financial necessity. Many of those included in the drop out rate go back to adult school, get their GED or move on to community college and finish their education. Those people are often not calculated in because they are over the age of 18. I do agree with your "new reforms" comment however. This is why districts need to look to the successful schools and copy their methods and curriculum. My earlier posts are my opinions based on research and 41 years of experience in looking for the best for kids (coaching and school boards, 3 grown children and thousands of young friends who now have children of their own). It's and orange for God's sake, peel it the same way! "

dyan wrote on Jun 27, 2009 9:30 AM:

" Pat: Defend all you want but you can't defend the numbers. No matter how much money is spent or how many "new reforms" are tried (none lasts more than 5 years), the dropout rates are the same. If anything, because of this stupid algebra requirement, they are worse. "

dyan wrote on Jun 27, 2009 9:27 AM:

" Same goes for the legal profession. "

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 27, 2009 7:06 AM:

" The system is the most copied in the world...show me one that is copied more. Fools? Harsh words for the guy that fixes your car. Do you honestly believe that a 12 year old can choose his/her profession? How do they test them for their job (that costs money)? Who decides? Yeltsin? Mao? I suppose Ray Kroc and John Goldblatt (owns 40 McDonalds) should have went to fry-cook school? Where are these jobs of which you speak? Pittsburgh? Detroit? Chicago? The oil fields of Texas? After they get a job are they then not considered a FOOL? "

Lodian wrote on Jun 27, 2009 1:36 AM:

" There are plenty of teachers in the LUSD that hurt their students' education, but there are (thank God!) some that are amazing! We've endured some of the worst and have been blessed with some of the best. I just wish the worst would get their butts kicked out of teaching. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Jun 26, 2009 11:36 PM:

" Contra, there are many reasons schools in this state suck. My issue with you is, you blame everyone but the teachers. Take some responsibility! "

Contrapasso wrote on Jun 26, 2009 11:01 PM:

" LOBLAW: As always, you blame the teachers....

Funny how you agreed with the comment about the bus schedule....Does that mean that you think perhaps there is another party to blame (besides teachers) for the lack of success of the students?

Hypocrisy is punished in the 8th level of Dante's Inferno........ "

dyan wrote on Jun 26, 2009 7:25 PM:

" I dont know where you get your facts, but to say the US is the "most copied" is poppycock. In just about every other Western country. Kids take an examination around the 8th grade. Those who can't pass go into vocational training. We waste a lot of time and money on fools who will never be academically proficient. Einstein and others like him didn't succeed because of public education, but despite it. "

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 26, 2009 5:21 PM:

" Other countries...require parental involvent (like private schools do here), don't have both parents working, have just as many juvenile problems as we do, have a higher incidence of suicide by teenagers (Japan), have tutors from the US (like Bob Rappley's son) teaching graduate students how to do critical thinking, don't open their schools (save EU) to foreign students like we do (sheer numbers), other countries punish the parents for student behavior, other countries don't support sports, band, ESL, ELL, disadvantaged students or programs that support the family. If you would like we can compare them one country at a time but that is still apples/oranges.
Do we have problems? Yes. Can they be fixed? Yes. How? Get people like you elected to the school boards. Hire business people to run them. Demand responsibility and accountability then follow through.

My previous post was in reference to the new Galt HS principal hiring. Sorry for the confusion. "

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 26, 2009 5:19 PM:

" Other countries...require parental involvent (like private schools do here), don't have both parents working, have just as many juvenile problems as we do, have a higher incidence of suicide by teenagers (Japan), have tutors from the US (like Bob Rappley's son) teaching graduate students how to do critical thinking, don't open their schools (save EU) to foreign students like we do (sheer numbers), other countries punish the parents for student behavior, other countries don't support sports, band, ESL, ELL, disadvantaged students or programs that support the family. If you would like we can compare them one country at a time but that is still apples/oranges.
Do we have problems? Yes. Can they be fixed? Yes. How? Get people like you elected to the school boards. Hire business people to run them. Demand responsibility and accountability then follow through. "

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 26, 2009 5:09 PM:

" Dyan: Einstein is one of 100 million geniuses. I used him and the others because their accomplishments are readily appreciated as are the others. The US education system has managed to educate the world to the tune of over 6 Billion people. Our system is the most copied in the world. Why do you think so many foreign students come here to study? This is no experiment...I don't experiment on children's lives.

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 26, 2009 2:30 PM:

" McNair and other LUSD HSs are LARGE comprehensive Division 1 schools GHS is LESS than half their size. Yet, the District chose to compare the new principal to them? There is no need for competitive pricing..."

You want to know why the state and Districts are broke? Why the system is in dire straits? This is why. "

dyan wrote on Jun 26, 2009 4:04 PM:

" Pat: How idealistic. Let's waste billions of dollars on the chance another Einstein might emerge in the next 100 years! Your experiment is a terrible failure. That's why no matter what "educators" do, the h.s. dropout rate in this country is 30 to 50 percent. Other countries, not as stupid as we, have already figured this one out. "

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 26, 2009 2:48 PM:

" Dyan: College is for everyone. Striving or educating to that level is important in that in each of us there is that curiosity button, that when pushed creates.... Witness, Einstein (people thought him an idiot), Gates, Oppenheimer, Bell, Ghandi, Curie, Salk, Ayn Rand, Picasso, Susan Boyle (singing)... Leaders like Kennedy, Reagan, Thatcher, Eisenhower and Patton were from the ranks. Education is not what you might get or not get it is what inspires those who get what one can achieve.

For myself it was people like Mel Enze, Gordon Collet, Cindy Enze Griffith, Kim Tutt, Nancy Schmidli (my sister),my mother Stella, father Robert and brothers Kelly and Bobby that knew I could make it...none of them were teachers like Don Levy, Bob Hansen and Ron Braden. It is those who are around us and encourage us that motivate success and keep us going. Besides, they can always learn to swing a hammer. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Jun 25, 2009 2:27 PM:

" Lou, your first three sentences at 11:28 are right on the money. "

dyan wrote on Jun 25, 2009 1:24 PM:

" Only the US is stupid enough to believe that all people can be raised to the same level of education. No other country believes that. People have different abilities. Until we accpet that fact,the system will continue to fail over and over agin, as it has been doing for the last half a century. "

science8c wrote on Jun 25, 2009 12:14 PM:

" My guess is that in China and India and a slew of other countries parents don't blame the teachers for their students lack of success. Kids who do no work and spend their days disrupting classes are easily identified, and in most cases the parents are aware of the problem, but do nothing constructive, just blame the schools or teachers. May we should view education like driving... it is a privilege, not a right. Attending a comprehensive, neighborhood school is not automatic, you have to earn it. If not, there are "no frills" schools you will attend. "

ttian wrote on Jun 25, 2009 12:13 PM:

" Where We Stand: America's Schools in the 21st Century

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wherewestand/
(5 segments) "

ttian wrote on Jun 25, 2009 12:02 PM:

" Did you know?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMcfrLYDm2U&feature=related "

Lou wrote on Jun 25, 2009 11:28 AM:

" All school school systems in this country are run pursuant to the bus schedule; yep, the buses dictate the times our students arrive at school and leave school.

Most of the industrialized countries go to school 220-225 days per year; we require about 185 days; do the math.

Parents are the biggest problem with our school system not teachers, not students, not even idiotic school boards.

Since NAFTA this country does everything in its power not to build anything of use. Most young people have a choices between selling real estate, selling insurance, sueing someone (over 2 million lawyers in this country)...or working in low-end poorly paid retail jobs or fast food joints....isn't this about the right shoe size?

All the engineers, doctors and high tech jobs are imported from elsewhere. or exported elsewhere. We have become the land of missed opportunity. The only big bucks young kids see are in drug distribution, they have given up on school and school has given up on them.

We need a complete revolution in our school system; I mean top-down, total overhaul. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Jun 24, 2009 11:10 PM:

" Like I said, excuses and blame for everyone else. Sigh..... "

Contrapasso wrote on Jun 24, 2009 5:32 PM:

" Loblaw: continued: Oh, and by the way, often teachers who raise the bar are ousted by the politically correct agenda of the district or the educational bureaucrats. Take senior project, for example. If the intent is to prepare students for college assignments, then the senior project should not be done in class. Colleges do not give students time in class to type papers. Thus, the senior teacher who endeavors to maintain college prep curriculum and not turn the class into a senior project class is looked upon as a troublemaker. The next year these teachers may not be given senior classes, because they demanded that the students take responsibility for their senior projects.
Does that sound like we are not trying to raise the bar? "

Contrapasso wrote on Jun 24, 2009 5:30 PM:

" Loblaw: So what you are saying is that the teachers should shoulder the blame for the students who refuse to do their work? That’s absolutely ridiculous!

I make a diligent effort to impart true college prepatory curriculum. However, if the student chooses not to complete an assignment, that is not my fault. The heterogeneous groupings in the classes has diminished the teachers’ ability to concentrate on curriculum because we are forced to spend too much time with discipline issues of the students who are not interested in going to college and think it’s funny to disrupt the class. When the classes were tracked, teaching was more effective. The lower level classes often had more behavior problems, and the teacher could adjust the direct instruction to accommodate the time spent with discipline. "

wtf wrote on Jun 24, 2009 9:24 AM:

" Cute video.

Press One For English

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJfS1v-fU0 "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Jun 24, 2009 12:59 AM:

" Cogito -- Raising the bar means having teachers who are also willing to raise the bar. Unfortunately, we have way too many teachers who blame the students for not learning. That is inherently illogical! Where's the ownership by classroom teachers? All I hear from teachers on these blogs are excuses and blame for everyone except those who do the direct teaching. Ridiculous! To get results comparable to some other countries, we need to fundamentally change the way kids are taught. That means a fresh work force with fresh ideas. Dump the excuse makers! "

Cogito wrote on Jun 23, 2009 9:48 PM:

" I have read that India has more students doing honors level work than we have students (mainly due to population differences). And that's just India, w have China and their low wages to compete with also. If we don't raise the bar on our education expectations, many future jobs will be sourced elsewhere. The world is changing and we need to seek the lead, or we will get passed over. "

Leonard wrote on Jun 23, 2009 4:46 AM:

" Pat Maple wrote on Jun 20, 2009 1:49 PM:
" The answer to this is simple...quit teaching to the lowest common denominator. Many genius level students drop out for exactly this reason. As an outsider who spent 14 years on school Boards, I found that we not only expected less and made more excuses for the results we also voted in people who had little interest in raising the bar for the students. As Mr Semple said: if they are to govern themselves (or others I add) "they must be qualified to do it"... not happening. We need to encourage those with some common sense to run for statewide office...and vote out those who want to make the world easier for the masses...suck it up...the world is a hard place to live.


Unlikely as it seems, I agree with Pat. "

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 22, 2009 8:04 PM:

" continued...you may have one, Sci8 might have one and Nellie may have one that could be blended to come up with a pretty good one. I doesn't matter where it comes from just as long as it does. Keep writing and bring the problems with you so we can talk about them. Thanks "

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 22, 2009 7:54 PM:

" Nellie: Thanks for the thought, and here's another...classes for those who want to learn wood, metal and Ag outside of school. Supported by the ed system but ran on the same basis as sports. Most kids are now having to pay for sports why not shop? I know that many of the Unions have apprenticeship programs available to students...check it out.

Sci8: I proposed that exact same thought about 12 years ago at the elem level and 7 years ago at the HS level...couldn't get a bite...I think you have a GREAT idea but too many parents would complain if you held their student back. I do like the outside of the box thinking though.

Contra: What do you think of Sci8's idea? Believe it or not most kids DO want to come to school...for various reasons. However you are right in that some come for the wrong reasons. I am not a teacher, I am someone outside the norm who gets to hear ALL sides of the problem and then tries to come up with a solution. I do not have all the answers but... "

Contrapasso wrote on Jun 22, 2009 5:44 PM:

" Sorry for my typos....

Also, remember that kids on sports teams are not hostages, like public school students are. The kids who participate in sports do so willingly, and I believe that accounts for the idea that "those kids who can will help those who cannot." "

Contrapasso wrote on Jun 22, 2009 5:41 PM:

" Hey Pat: Have you ever actually taught one of those heterogeneous classes? It's really not like you described. The lower level kids often have behavioral problems and some kids just don't want to learn anything, so they are very disruptive. Despite the fact that scores may have risen minimally (because teachers are being forced to teach to the tests), critical thinking skills and reading levels oare dropping. This is not just in one class or with one teacher.....it's all across the board. "

science8c wrote on Jun 22, 2009 5:40 PM:

" Our problems stem from the "politically correct idea" of heterogenous grouping of students. Never mind that they are not all at the same level of maturity or mastery of subjects, just put them together and have a teacher try to get all of them to understand the material. What's wrong with ability grouping? Why do all students in a "grade" take the same classes when they don't have the same ability? Student should progress through to system as they master material, not as they have birthdays. "

Whoa Nellie! wrote on Jun 22, 2009 4:55 PM:

" Pat, I ask you again, will you please move to Lodi and run for the LUSD School Board?

Where has common sense gone?

Not all kids need to study Algebra. Some kids want to take Industrial Arts like woodshop or drafting. Where will our next generation of craftsmen, carpenters, or architects come from?

The LUSD Educrats all think every student needs a college education. I often wonder if they've even been into any middle or high school classrooms in the past ten years. "

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 22, 2009 6:43 AM:

" 25 years of coaching sports and 14 years of being on school Boards tells me that those kids who can will help those who cannot. That is a fact. When you do not raise the bar, those who can will find other challenges (some bad ones sometimes). Schools are nothing more than vehicles used to impart knowledge, testing is a method of assessing the system...the information given, the student's understanding and the teachers abilities. Administrators are an unfortunate necessary evil. Keep in mind though we all have administrators (bosses). Even Marty. "

Contrapasso wrote on Jun 21, 2009 3:54 PM:

" Lodi Unified School District and Dr. Odie Douglas made a GRAVE mistake when they decided to make all high school core classes (English, Math, Science, Social Science) college prepatory. By doing this, the district abandoned true college prepatory curriculum in favor of watered down, politically correct sound bite lessons. Imagine trying to teach Hamlet to a student with a 3rd grade reading level. It's absolutely insane and the worst part of it is that the district doesn't really care.....they are going to stick to their guns despite the obvious failure of this type of system. "

Gator wrote on Jun 21, 2009 9:49 AM:

" First and foremost get rid of NCLB…Second get over the Idea everyone has to go to College.. Teaching to the lowest common denominator, wrong, now
days it’s Teach to the test and to cover the administrations A** no more no less…It’s all politics and to H*** with education.. Strong parental involvement are what make a good school even better…The economic disaster of California is going to make it even harder.. As for LUSD it is a
disaster all it’s own and From the superintendent on down all should be held
Accountable [ie] by full parent involvement. Don’t just talk, act!! "

max stanfield wrote on Jun 21, 2009 12:21 AM:

" Joe, actually California needs responsible, controlled growth and the right kind of citizens [legal citizens]. Those who work, pay taxes, breed responsibility, value education, value honesty, truth and the American way. Hal Schwartz says Hi and he agrees too. "

sam wrote on Jun 20, 2009 7:05 PM:

" "quit teaching to the lowest common denominator. Many genius level students drop out for exactly this reason."

Amen Pat. Thank you ! "

Pat Maple wrote on Jun 20, 2009 1:49 PM:

" The answer to this is simple...quit teaching to the lowest common denominator. Many genius level students drop out for exactly this reason. As an outsider who spent 14 years on school Boards, I found that we not only expected less and made more excuses for the results we also voted in people who had little interest in raising the bar for the students. As Mr Semple said: if they are to govern themselves (or others I add) "they must be qualified to do it"... not happening. We need to encourage those with some common sense to run for statewide office...and vote out those who want to make the world easier for the masses...suck it up...the world is a hard place to live. "

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