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Monday, June 8, 2009 6:24 AM PDT
With the California Supreme Court upholding Proposition 8, we once again see the real agenda of the gay and lesbian movement is not just "tolerance" but "acceptance."
The gay and lesbian movement continually wants to force its beliefs and values down the collective throats of the our state (and country).
Tolerance — absolutely. All minority groups should be provided tolerance (yes, gays and lesbians are a minority group). But this is different; the gay and lesbians consistently want acceptance. They want everyone to "accept" them as typical, normal and representative of our society.
Acceptance is an individual choice, not something that can be voted or legislated into the brains of individuals. This issue is plainly visible in the comments of Ms. Drake (cover page, Lodi News-Sentinel) as she states, "We need to go out and explain to people what this is all about" — as if we do not know already; as if we were somehow more "educated" or "enlightened," we would surely see the light of the gay and lesbian way. Ms. Drake, we understand the issue and have time and time again voted against gay marriage.
I come from neither a religious nor intolerant point of view; mine is pragmatic. Opening the door for gay marriage would likely bring challenges from other beliefs, and polygamy comes to mind. If a man can marry a man, then why not polygamy? And why this arbitrary age of consent for marriage? And I will not discuss the extraordinary amount of my tax dollars that would likely be spent cowering to yet another special interest group.
California has spoken time and time again. Try as you may, you will likely never achieve the acceptance you so clearly covet. Why not move on and do something productive? Live your life without trying to change my mind; it's not going to happen.
Robert Marty
Lockeford
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Lodian wrote on Jun 18, 2009 12:19 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 16, 2009 12:36 PM:
It's the truth, Brian. And you wouldn't know the truth if it came up and bit you. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 16, 2009 12:30 PM:
" It's almost like she wants me to have prejudice for gays. "
You are prejudiced, Brian. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 16, 2009 12:18 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 16, 2009 10:17 AM:
Brian! STOP! My sides are hurting from laughing!
Yeah, it's "almost like Lodian wants you to have prejudice for gays", and you being the guy who said people who KILL gays just BECAUSE they're gay are not homophobes.
Oh please, can't someone stop the insanity. "
Brian wrote on Jun 16, 2009 8:12 AM:
Brian wrote on Jun 16, 2009 8:09 AM:
" Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 6:25 PM:
" And with all that said it still puzzles me how you equate ALL gay people to the likes of some fair goers in San Francisco.
Brian wrote on Jun 13, 2009 7:24 AM:
" To clear things up. I've never believed that ALL gays are into this Faire nor do I belive that ALL gays should put on the chopping block because of this Faire. Lodian just enjoys writing down this nonsense just to raise eyebrows.
-And then Lodian STILL goes on to post nonsense. "
-And she still insists on writing untruths about me. We all know what the definition of insanity is. "
Brian wrote on Jun 16, 2009 8:04 AM:
Looks like this blogg may be archived.
You seem to be firm in your belief
that these objects aren't offensive.
And I'll maintain my belief that anyone who believes these objects aren't offensive needs to have their head examined. And I'm not ruling out government intervention into this world of decadence you gays are so proud of. "
Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 15, 2009 10:40 PM:
Dang some of those were great.
I couldn't make this stuff up. Remember when you said you wanted GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION TO STOP PEOPLE FROM MAKING THE JESUS DILDOS.
Except for having to scroll past the hundreds and hundreds of blogs by a former poster, it was very entertaining. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 9:06 PM:
Well, unfortunately there will always be bigots in the world, like Brian. We can only hope and pray that they will someday see the light and treat their fellow Americans with the same respect they expect and desire for themselves.
I feel sorry for people like Brian. He must be in a lot of personal pain. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 9:03 PM:
dyan wrote on Jun 15, 2009 7:30 PM:
Brian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 7:16 PM:
-Billy, normal people don't disrespect Jesus by making him into a dildo. You're really revealing you true self by digging up your posts too. Is this really something you are proud of? It seems to me you are almost gloating about these posts you made in 2007.
Obviously you're not a religious person. "
Brian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 7:09 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 15, 2009 6:48 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Dec 23, 2007 11:47 AM:"You're "outraged"?Outraged?Really? Do you think you may be overcompensating?Over-reacting just a tad?"Outraged",huh?So then you do,in fact,believe Jesus was a dildo?Or do you think a dildo is a dildo and Jesus was King of Kings and you can differentiate between the two?Careful, here-it's not a trick question but the answer may be counterintuitive for you. Take your time before you answer. You're not doing very well so far, though,considering your other statement, "...it seems to me those who call Jesus a homophobe are the ultimate abomination of hatred for anything Christian." Uhh...really? The ULTIMATE ABOMINATION? How do you then describe Islamist fundamentalists who saw off Christian's heads? What words do you have left after you've already used "ULTIMATE ABOMINATION"? "
Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 15, 2009 6:28 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Dec 22, 2007 9:06 AM:"Brian,you must come to grips with life. A rubber "replica of Jesus" is not really your Lord and Savior. It's a piece of rubber. Does it look like Jesus? What,exactly,does your vision of Jesus look like?Do you imagine he is actually a rubber sex toy?Do you rage against plastic Jesus statues perched on car dashboards? Is THAT a fitting place for the King of Kings?Do you worship a painting of Jesus in your home? Do you know that for Christians it is a sin to worship idols?If the rubber sex toys are,as you claim,idols that must be revered, who is sinning? "
Leonard wrote on Jun 15, 2009 5:37 PM:
Just curious...... "
Brian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 5:15 PM:
I think we've had enough of them. We should expect it to take a little while for them to wind down. I'll continue to monitor this blogg and see what other nonsense they have to say. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 4:03 PM:
Well, unfortunately there will always be bigots in the world, like Brian. We can only hope and pray that they will someday see the light and treat their fellow Americans with the same respect they expect and desire for themselves.
I feel sorry for people like Brian. He must be in a lot of personal pain. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 3:42 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 15, 2009 3:23 PM:
So, Brian, are you saying you have never mentioned the latex Jesuses before or that you have no recollection of mentioning them? Is this another alcoholic blackout for you or what? It was you who first brought to the attention of LNS readers your discovery of Jesus dildos and then feigned indignace after you sought them out. Oh, the outrage you manufactured. You were forced again and again to research the Folsom Street Fair sites finding new images to shock yourself - reporting your findings here.
So is it blackouts or denial, Brian? "
Lodian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 3:18 PM:
Brian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 3:10 PM:
Brian, it was you who first mentioned the Jesus dildos, not me.
Where on this blogg did I mention this BEFORE YOU?
And where in past bloggs have I mentioned this?
Are you also going to deny you ever went to the Faire? "
lodi boy wrote on Jun 15, 2009 2:48 PM:
Can I find it online or at a public library? It would be interesting to see. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 12:50 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 12:49 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 12:47 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 12:45 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 15, 2009 12:36 PM:
Brian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 7:32 AM:"Billy wrote:Are you talking about the Jesus dildos again? You've been talking about those for a couple of years, and now you're trying to say you've never seen them before? "
Billy, I see you're trying to slander me again."
Slander you? SLANDER you? LOL!
Poor Brian has been derailed.
Where's the slander? "
Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 15, 2009 12:33 PM:
Brian, it was you who first mentioned the Jesus dildos, not me. I've been to the fair and I never saw them. You claimed to have seen them in one of your fact-finding missions (where you spend hours at night clicking furtively around looking at Folsom pictures that you can later claim are being shoved down your throat). "
Lodian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 12:32 PM:
Brian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 12:31 PM:
Brian: Is that what you will do for your daughter? "
My daughter is only 3.
Face it Lodian, even if I did post links about this Faire you still wouldn't condemn it. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 11:59 AM:
Brian: Is that what you will do for your daughter? "
Brian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 7:39 AM:
Brian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 7:32 AM:
Are you talking about the Jesus dildos again? You've been talking about those for a couple of years, and now you're trying to say you've never seen them before? "
Billy, I see you're trying to slander me again. Don't you have something else to do? I have to get ready for work. But Lodian thinks I am unemployed and you'll just agree with her on that. Have a nice day. "
Brian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 7:28 AM:
You've told us how you vicariously shopped for the Jesus-shaped appliances and excused it by acting outraged. You've said numerous times that you've seen the photos of all the kinky gay acts.
-Chuckle, Billy actually thinks we should believe him that Jesus-shaped appliances at a gay Faire weren't dildos. After all, he's the one who attended the Faire on more than one occasion. Why would I be outraged by a Jesus-shaped refrigerator Billy? "
Brian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 7:21 AM:
You can just keep on speculating where I get this info or you could actually do some research yourself. I'm enjoying keeping you on the edge of your seat. You'll eventually give up. This Faire is quite an event and it's publicised. If you think it's a mirage then that's your choice. And please show me some respect and stop accusing me of lumping all gays into one category. There are gays that live in my neighborhood and I don't have a problem with them. We get along just fine. "
Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 15, 2009 7:06 AM:
The appliances I was talking about were refrigerators, Brian.
What were YOU talking about?
Are you talking about the Jesus dildos again? You've been talking about those for a couple of years, and now you're trying to say you've never seen them before? "
Brian wrote on Jun 15, 2009 6:59 AM:
" And with all that said it still puzzles me how you equate ALL gay people to the likes of some fair goers in San Francisco.
Brian wrote on Jun 13, 2009 7:24 AM:
" To clear things up. I've never believed that ALL gays are into this Faire nor do I belive that ALL gays should put on the chopping block because of this Faire. Lodian just enjoys writing down this nonsense just to raise eyebrows.
-And then Lodian STILL goes on to post nonsense. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 9:31 PM:
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dyan wrote on Jun 14, 2009 8:01 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 6:25 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 6:20 PM:
Brian: You are the one claiming knowledge of a gay fair and some goings on at said fair, so it is natural for me to ask where you obtained such information. You don't seem to be able to answer that simple question, Brian. You let a few things slip, like saying you are curious so you go online in regards to this gay fair, but then you quickly backpedal. I'm just trying to figure out how you have formed your opinion. Do you know how you have formed your own opinion, Brian? You've danced around this question all day. How about a direct answer ? It is just very curious, since you now say that you don't seek out info online, you haven't been to this fair nor do you live anywhere near the fair. So one can only wonder how in the world you even know of the fair and how have you formed such a strong opinion of disgust of said fair. I have no idea how you've obtained such info. Enlighten us, Brian. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 6:10 PM:
Is that what you think I'm doing, Brian? "
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 6:08 PM:
Brian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 5:45 PM:
" Brian: Your agenda will not be accepted here.
-YES, you've made it quite clear on many occasions that you don't like people who have an agenda that uncovers
things that may not be in your best interest to advance on. I sure don't miss the peer pressure and the cliques in Lodi that drives a person to compromise their beliefs just to get along. I guess guess you've got yourself stuck in this rut and it's other people's fault that bring up subjects you feel uncomfortable talking about. "
Brian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 5:34 PM:
" Brian wrote "And I've never had to visit any gay sites to learn about this Faire."
Brian: This is contradictory to what you have already told us here on the blogs. Why lie about it now? "
_-You don't read my posts very well. I have never had to get any information about this Faire from any gay sites. Why do yopu insist on lying that I have visited gay sites? Perhaps your craystal ball is malfunctioning. Give me an example of a link I posted from a gay site that talks about this Faire.
There are plenty of news articles that talk about this Faire. I suppose I'll have to post some of these articles just to satisfy you. Or you can just do the research yourself. But then you wouldn't be pestering me. This IS what this is all about. "
Brian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 5:25 PM:
" Brian wrote "I learned more about this Faire from Billy."
Brian: Oh, so you are forming your opinion on the gay fair from what another anonymous poster here has told you?
-No Lodian, I don't need Billy to form my opinions on this subject. He just reinforced what I already knew from research. Except for the Jesus-shaped things. But I'm not surprised. "
Mystery girl wrote on Jun 14, 2009 4:31 PM:
The gay and lesbian movement continually wants to force its beliefs and values down the collective throats of the our state (and country).
Tolerance — absolutely. All minority groups should be provided tolerance (yes, gays and lesbians are a minority group). But this is different; the gay and lesbians consistently want acceptance. They want everyone to "accept" them as typical, normal and representative of our society.">>>
We need to be honest with ourselves and others. No one who is not gay will find it normal to them. But they will accept it is normal for others. That it is not tolerance but the acceptance that we are different. That it is okay to be different. But that being different is not bad but should not make us want to be like everyone else. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 4:24 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 4:24 PM:
Brian: This is contradictory to what you have already told us here on the blogs. Why lie about it now? "
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 4:23 PM:
Brian: Really? Please tell me more about what I think and feel on this topic. I have never been to this fair, nor have I looked it up online like you or obsessed about it (like you have)... it will be very interesting to know what I think about all of this. Please tell me, since you seem to think you know exactly what my opinions are on this topic. Go ahead... "
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 4:19 PM:
Brian: Oh, so you are forming your opinion on the gay fair from what another anonymous poster here has told you? "
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 4:16 PM:
--------------
Tell me what newspapers and websites you are referring to, Brian. Why do you keep holding back on this information? "
Brian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 2:30 PM:
So, Brian, I'm curious about how one can you have formed such an opinion without any knowledge of said fair. No websites? No personal visits? No friends at the fair? "
-Hmm, newspaper aticles and non-gay websites reporting what goes on their.
There are now reports that this Faire has had enough complaints that the gay activists have scaled back and the decadence is not as rampant, although it still makes it's way out away from the Faire outside of the barracades and in plain view of people who shouldn't have to be exposed to this filth. And now that billy has informed us that he atttende the Faire not just once but several times, we have hard evidence from his reports that this Faire is kind of rank. And the Jesus-shaped appliances. Well, need I say anymore.
I learned more about this Faire from Billy. And I've never had to visit any gay sites to learn about this Faire. believe what you want to believe, Lodian. You're still struggling with the fact that anyone should be offended by this Faire. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 11:44 AM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 11:43 AM:
LODIAN WROTE "I ask because, even though you live 1000 miles away from here, you seem to know an awful lot about this Gay Fair and their wesbites etc etc etc."
BRIAN WROTE "It's called the internet. I am curious"
. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 11:38 AM:
Brian: What websites? "
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 11:33 AM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 11:33 AM:
" I am curious how close has Lodian has had to get to a gorilla to experience the stench of one of their farts. "
Brian: The difference here is that I've never even brought up the subject of Gorilla farts, nor have I wondered if said farts stink. Also, I do not go on and on about how horrible they must be while all the while declaring how I have NEVER seen a picture or was able to smell these farts. YET, in contrast, you go on and on about gay fairs, but profess to have never seen the fair or gone to websites about the fair (actually...a reminder for you Brian... you have indeed admitted to surfing the web for these sites in previous blogs). NOW, you are backpedaling, again. Poor Brian... he doesn't know which end is up.
So, Brian, I'm curious about how one can you have formed such an opinion without any knowledge of said fair. No websites? No personal visits? No friends at the fair? "
Brian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 9:20 AM:
Brian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 8:46 AM:
You know what? I have no reason to disbelieve you.
-And I wish I could share the same sentiments about you. You were purposely untruthful about the type of area where this Faire occurs. "
Brian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 8:32 AM:
I am not up on all your gay websites and stuff you mentioned.
One does not have to vistit any gay websites to get a map of this Faire. You keep on insisting I do visit these sites. What is it with your obsession with these sites that I know nothing about? Please elaborate. The audience is at the edge of their seats. Are you going to post a link? I sure hope not.
You said in another blogg some time back
your friend's 8 year child reads these bloggs. "
Brian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 8:24 AM:
Brian, buddy, I'm not judging you - I freely admit I'VE BEEN TO THE FAIR. IF I COULD TYPE IT LOUDER FOR YOU I WOULD. I'VE BEEN THERE.
-At least you honest. But you're not that honest when you said no children live where the Faire is. I saw lots of residences on this part of Folsom St.
Please be more truthful and not so willing to defend those that put on this Faire. "
Brian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 8:20 AM:
" Brian wrote "...they can also join me in condemning any acts that heterosexuals do."
Like what? Can you give an example, Brian? "
-I don't waste my time visiting porn sites. I hope you don't either Lodian.
I'm glad to see you understand that I don't condemn all gays because of this Faire nor do I condemn all heterosexuals
and gays because some choose to be into pornography. "
Brian wrote on Jun 14, 2009 8:09 AM:
" Umm, Brian?
I know how you get all excited and perky when you start talking about Folsom St.; you start posting some of the links you've found and the whole episode gives you an excuse to go online again, doing more "Bernie Ward research".
You've told us how you vicariously shopped for the Jesus-shaped appliances and excused it by acting outraged. You've said numerous times that you've seen the photos of all the kinky gay acts.
-Billy, please tell us about the Jesus Shaped appliances. I didn't kmake it that far in my research on the web about this Faire. I know your agenda here is to slander anyone who doesn't agree with your lifestyle. Look again at the map where this Faire is. It's not in a dark dirty industial area that you describe. Folsom st. isn'nt much different than many of the streets in Lodi. Perhaps we should call up some of the merchants and residents and ask them how they've been strong-armed by the gay activists to put up with the Faire. "
Robb wrote on Jun 13, 2009 5:04 PM:
Hey... Lodian & I agree on something... "
Lodian wrote on Jun 13, 2009 2:05 PM:
The female agenda will not be accepted.
The black agenda will not be accepted.
The Jew agenda will not be accepted.
And so on...
Are you, Mr. Marty, in agreement with all of these statements?
What agenda is acceptable to you, Mr. Marty? What is your agenda? "
Lodian wrote on Jun 13, 2009 12:36 PM:
O b s e s s i o n ? "
Lodian wrote on Jun 13, 2009 12:34 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 13, 2009 12:29 PM:
Like what? Can you give an example, Brian? "
Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 13, 2009 9:55 AM:
I know how you get all excited and perky when you start talking about Folsom St.; you start posting some of the links you've found and the whole episode gives you an excuse to go online again, doing more "Bernie Ward research".
You've told us how you vicariously shopped for the Jesus-shaped appliances and excused it by acting outraged. You've said numerous times that you've seen the photos of all the kinky gay acts.
You know what? I have no reason to disbelieve you. I honestly think you HAVE searched out those photos. And, by the detail you've gone into, you evidently looked at lots and LOTS of them.
Brian, buddy, I'm not judging you - I freely admit I'VE BEEN TO THE FAIR. IF I COULD TYPE IT LOUDER FOR YOU I WOULD. I'VE BEEN THERE.
What you've written could only be known by someone who has done lots of internet research on the topic. More power to you, I say. Good job, Brian. "
Brian wrote on Jun 13, 2009 8:23 AM:
Brian wrote on Jun 13, 2009 8:10 AM:
Folsom Street is an industrial area and it is closed and barricaded.
-I guess those houses above the retail establisments are just a mirage. Right Billy? "
Brian wrote on Jun 13, 2009 8:06 AM:
The area on Folsom St. where the Faire occurs seems to be a mix of retail, some light industrial, and residential.
But Billy insists there are no children who live down there. It's a nice and clean area. Even a Mercedes Benz dealership on 11th st and Folsom. The Faire does occur from about 11th to 8th street on Folsom st. "
Brian wrote on Jun 13, 2009 7:24 AM:
I wish she and Billy would join me in condemning this Faire. But they won't.
They have too many gay friends that would be offended by this position.
Just to be fair, they can also join me in condemning any acts that heterosexuals do. "
Brian wrote on Jun 13, 2009 7:13 AM:
to justify what goes on their is almost as disturbing as the Faire itself.
No Billy, I don't look at those websites. Now that I know that you have attended this Faire (more than once) I'm satisfied that this Faire does actually exist. Can we move on? "
Leonard wrote on Jun 12, 2009 9:10 PM:
It'll be a cold day in Hell when gays aren't proud of flogging their logs in public
Chuckle...
I always find it intriguing when Brian gives us the inside scoop on what gays think and feel.
How ever does he know? "
dyan wrote on Jun 12, 2009 8:22 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 12, 2009 6:52 PM:
You ready?
Are you following Brian?
The Folson Street Fair isn't open to the public. How do I know? Well, we've been there a number of times.
Is it rank?
*sigh*... yeah, it's pretty rank. It's sort of a turn-off.
Is it open to the public as you have stupidly claimed for years?
No.
Is it a residential neighborhood with, as you claim, "children living there"?
No.
Folsom Street is an industrial area and it is closed and barricaded.
So.
There we are, Brian.
By all means keep looking at the Folsom guys on the interwebs after everyone in your house is asleep. Keep, as you said you do, admiring good looking guys and keep up the "normal fantasies" you said you have about guys.
But please, see if you can stop lying. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 6:36 PM:
Brian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 4:44 PM:
here. But that's what she does. Makes for good entertainment. What else does she see in her crystal ball? "
Lodian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 2:18 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 2:16 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 2:15 PM:
" Lodian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 11:37 AM:
" Brian: Are you a part of or have you done a research paper or something on this Gay Fair you speak of so much? I ask because, even though you live 1000 miles away from here, you seem to know an awful lot about this Gay Fair and their wesbites etc etc etc.
-It's called the internet. I am curious
about many things. Yes, this Faire does happen and it is in San Fran not Sac. Had it not been for Leonard's remark on this blogg I may not have brought it up. "
---------------
Brian: How much time do you spend on these gay fair websites, since you are curious and all? "
Lodian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 2:13 PM:
Brian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 1:54 PM:
Brian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 1:48 PM:
" Brian: Are you a part of or have you done a research paper or something on this Gay Fair you speak of so much? I ask because, even though you live 1000 miles away from here, you seem to know an awful lot about this Gay Fair and their wesbites etc etc etc. I live a lot closer to where you say this all happens yet I have never been to the fair, nor have I ever heard of it (aside from you) or gone to, or seen the website you speak of. I don't even know what you are talking about so it's curious to me how you know of this and why you are so involved with this Gay Fair in Sacramento.
-Lodian, you may be privvy to some information on the habitual flatulence of the jungle gorilla, but just because I am not aware of this phenomenon doesn't mean I think it doesn't exist. "
Brian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 12:36 PM:
" Brian: Are you a part of or have you done a research paper or something on this Gay Fair you speak of so much? I ask because, even though you live 1000 miles away from here, you seem to know an awful lot about this Gay Fair and their wesbites etc etc etc.
-It's called the internet. I am curious
about many things. Yes, this Faire does happen and it is in San Fran not Sac. Had it not been for Leonard's remark on this blogg I may not have brought it up. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 11:44 AM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 11:37 AM:
Brian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 8:17 AM:
Brian wrote on Jun 12, 2009 7:59 AM:
" Chuckle....
I keep waiting for Brian to show up and tell us about the horrible spectacles of perversion he was forced to witness each of the five times that he accidentally attended the Folsom Street Fair. "
-Haven't been to the Street Faire, either accidently, or on purpose. There is plenty of evidence that acts of perversion occur out in public during this Faire. Based on the reports on various websites, it's undeniable. We would have heard some outrage from the gay community had these reports been false. It'll be a cold day in Hell when gays aren't proud of flogging their logs in public. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 11, 2009 11:39 PM:
dyan wrote on Jun 11, 2009 8:44 PM:
(LOL) "
Lodian wrote on Jun 11, 2009 6:47 PM:
dyan: Go take your meds dear. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 11, 2009 6:47 PM:
dyan wrote on Jun 11, 2009 4:18 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 11, 2009 12:41 PM:
dyan wrote on Jun 11, 2009 10:53 AM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 10, 2009 1:42 PM:
" Veritas, if we wipe out the "gay gene" who will we get to decorate our homes, design all the cool clothes,create some of our best art, be reality TV stars (no pun intended)? The gay community is a viable, contributing community to our everyday lives. Not having them would make our world a lot more boring, and a lot less classy. "
And we'd be without many more brilliant doctors, mothers and fathers, firefighters, business owners, leaders, military, philanthropists, volunteers, and many other wonderful compassionate people that are an asset to this country. "
Rhodie v2.0 wrote on Jun 9, 2009 4:49 PM:
I recently joined the tatoo freak parade as well. Not something I would have normally done but I had a reason. My sone is a GOOD artist and i told him if he drew an angel for me I would get it done. In March he finished a great angel and I followed through with my commitment to him. It is a 7x8 angel on the side of the leg that only people I show it to will see.
The guy I got the tat from has a masters in art and sees tatoos as his canvas. While I was there (four hour ordel) two of the other tatooists asked him for advise even though they had been doing it for years more than him.
So what did I get out of it? A nice piece of art from my son that will be a forever reminder to him that I believe enough in his skills to wear it on me. "
sam wrote on Jun 9, 2009 4:42 PM:
Read her blogs again. Is this a person you want to agree with? Just consider the source. "
mommydearest wrote on Jun 9, 2009 2:40 PM:
mommydearest wrote on Jun 9, 2009 2:38 PM:
mommydearest wrote on Jun 9, 2009 8:52 AM:
mommydearest wrote on Jun 9, 2009 8:47 AM:
" Good luck mommy dearest: My company would never hire anyone with a visible tatoo. It signifies a complete lack of common sense, self respect and an obvious waste of money. It prevents you from donating blood for a full year which we value to help others, and the colors are poor and ugly to top things off. Get a life. "
Did I say they were visible, YOU call it a lack of self repect, and common sense, I call it an outlet in my life that makes me happy and doesn't hurt anyone. Hubby likes them ( two small and easily hidden)I started the trend in my fairly conservitive family.As for the waste of money, ALL my bills are paid, I can afford MY home my girls are happy and lack for nothing what I do with my extra bill monies is my right. As for working or not for your company I could walk in now and get a job and you would never know that I have TATS. AND (YES I"M ON A RANT!!) I have given blood I know my blood type. "
Leonard wrote on Jun 9, 2009 6:04 AM:
I keep waiting for Brian to show up and tell us about the horrible spectacles of perversion he was forced to witness each of the five times that he accidentally attended the Folsom Street Fair. "
Cogito wrote on Jun 8, 2009 10:05 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 8, 2009 10:05 PM:
Discrimination due to sexual orientation is illegal. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 8, 2009 9:42 PM:
" Mr Marty is absolutely correct. Acceptance can not be legislated. Bigotry will have to fade away on its own with the passage of time.
Happily, there is hope that this process is already underway. Polling shows that homophobia is much less prevalent amongst Americans under thirty than it is in the baby boomer generation.
Yes, one generation has managed (by a narrow margin) to enshrine its prejudice in law today but (thankfully) tomorrow is another day. "
I agree. "
Lodian wrote on Jun 8, 2009 9:30 PM:
veritas: Why do you think there should be a cure for being gay? Would you also like to see a cure for your ignorance? "
Lodian wrote on Jun 8, 2009 9:28 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 8, 2009 9:23 PM:
Lodisafeway:Please explain what exactly is being shoved down your throat.
If you're not gay then how will this affect you?
When you vote against gay marriage you are imposing your religious and/or prejudiced views on another law abiding American.
You want to deny these Americans the same rights and opportunities you enjoy. Why?
Well, these are discriminatory reasons and it is illegal. It is illegal to discriminate against someone due to his or her sexual orientation. You don't have to like it, but it's the law.
All Americans are afforded the same rights and opportunities. When you select one segment of the American population and decide they should not enjoy the same rights and opportunities that you enjoy then you will rightfully have a full blown fight on your hands for equality.
I know this isn't over,nor should it be until gay American's have the same rights and opportunities as Lodisafeway. "
tosh conn wrote on Jun 8, 2009 9:09 PM:
tosh conn wrote on Jun 8, 2009 8:55 PM:
veritas wrote on Jun 8, 2009 8:41 PM:
mommydearest wrote on Jun 8, 2009 7:29 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jun 8, 2009 6:59 PM:
I worked the gay section of SF, while I was never threated, just knowing the life style made me very uncounfortable, couldn`t wait to get the job done and get out
That's because you are a bigot. I don't mean that as an insult, its just a statement of fact. "
sam wrote on Jun 8, 2009 6:00 PM:
It was you ! You were my inspiration. Thanks ! "
sam wrote on Jun 8, 2009 5:58 PM:
She loves SF and knows that what a few do does represent all. I agree.
Like I said before, the gays I know are just like me. They are professionals, hard working, love their family and friends, and are just nice people. "
dogs4you wrote on Jun 8, 2009 5:53 PM:
I`ll hold my own with anyone about anything, but with dogs, you have found my weak spot. Thanks for that, hope it`s approved. "
dogs4you wrote on Jun 8, 2009 5:46 PM:
dogs4you wrote on Jun 8, 2009 5:43 PM:
sam wrote on Jun 8, 2009 5:31 PM:
I kid you not... the design went out this morning at 11 am with the boat named "SS Dogs 4 U".
Hey if it is accepted, I owe ya a beach towel. "
illegalinLodi wrote on Jun 8, 2009 5:24 PM:
sam wrote on Jun 8, 2009 5:24 PM:
Just kidding , but parties in the Grove create sound that "travels" over the vines. Hey next time you are going to the Grove give us a heads up... you are always welcome here for a glass of wine.. or two. "
Cogito wrote on Jun 8, 2009 5:01 PM:
sam wrote on Jun 8, 2009 4:58 PM:
My point is that I love SF and the many times I have been there I have not witnessed what you desribed.
I am not saying it does it not exist... I just have not seen it. The gays I have met are just like me.
And of course there are parts of any city that should be avoided. I would never be caught in parts of Lodi after dark. "
Leonard wrote on Jun 8, 2009 4:52 PM:
" Hey Dogs, one of my kids lives in SF so we go there a lot. I have NEVER seen what you described. We are all over the city when we are there. It is so awesome to have a relative who knows the city ... what a great tour guide.
I lived in the City for 3 years in the late 90's and my experience is the same. I never saw that sort of thing because I didn't go looking for it. I was too busy eating great food, seeing great bands, attending excellent theater and visiting wonderful museums.
The determined pervert will find the seedy side of life in any locale as evidenced by a certain high ranking salty seaman and Admiral of the Ocean who we all know and love. "
dogs4you wrote on Jun 8, 2009 4:23 PM:
Sam, I was born and raised in SF in the Sunset District, great place to live------ then. Seems old habits and beliefs die hard. I worked for PG&E for 17 years before I left SF, I have been and seen the other side, untill you have don`t be so fast to make snap judements. Some places in SF you don`t want to be when the sun goes down, or anytime for that matter. Trust me. "
sam wrote on Jun 8, 2009 3:58 PM:
I have met many gay people there and the only reason I know they are gay is that their "better half" is the same sex.
I do love your "light brown in color" comment. I had a relative use the same comment. He was so into "color" until he started having "brown sugar colored" grand kids. Now he does not see color any more... except to say we are all a "light brown".
I love having a HUGE family. Every religion, every race is part of it. The young educate the old, the old educate the young... and tolerance, love and acceptance is abundant. "
Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 8, 2009 3:05 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Jun 8, 2009 3:05 PM:
No matter, we got a glimpse into his heartfelt concern in the last line of his 3:02 post. "
illegalinLodi wrote on Jun 8, 2009 3:02 PM:
dogs4you wrote on Jun 8, 2009 2:18 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jun 8, 2009 12:09 PM:
dogs4you wrote on Jun 8, 2009 11:09 AM:
Rhodie wrote on Jun 8, 2009 10:31 AM:
To be fair it would be equally inappropriate for a straight couple to do this. "
dogs4you wrote on Jun 8, 2009 10:24 AM:
Cogito wrote on Jun 8, 2009 9:42 AM:
Cogito wrote on Jun 8, 2009 8:25 AM:
lodisafeway wrote on Jun 8, 2009 8:04 AM:
Didn't President Obama indicate that he would eliminate this policy? His own press secretary made it clear earlier this year that the president was going to address it. So, what's changed his mind? Wouldn't it take but an Executive Order to change the rules within the military? Is Obama a bigot; a homophobe?
Perhaps Obama realizes that things are not always as simple as we all believed when we were young and naive. I believe the policy is wrong; it was nothing but a cowardly attempt to skirt the issue by Clinton. But the law hasn't changed. The UCMJ still provides for punishment for homosexual activity by military members. And unless they keep their mouths shut, they're still being administratively discharged. "
wtf wrote on Jun 8, 2009 7:58 AM:
You heard me right; a threesome: the two partners in the relationship and Uncle Sam....all in bed together. Frankly, I have to wonder why in the world anyone would push to ***invite*** the government into their personal relationship. LOL! "
lodisafeway wrote on Jun 8, 2009 7:53 AM:
But as I expected this forum to move into its typical rant regarding bigotry and homophobia (from those who insist that any disagreement with the gay community couldn't possibly be just a matter of opinion), the author of the letter is neither. In fact by virtue of the comments that are sure to follow, he's absolutely correct: "tolerance" isn't what is sought by the homosexual community. They won't be satisfied until everyone agrees with them and accepts their lifestyle. Such a position is foolish and contrary to how our society is expected to function. I submit the longer this issue is forced down the throats of those who disagree, the larger the number of voters will be who come out against same-sex marriage each time it's placed on the ballot. All the sophomoric name-calling won't win this war. "
sam wrote on Jun 8, 2009 6:35 AM:
Former vice-president Dick Cheney coming out in support of gay marriage shows that even the most conservative are seeing the light. As a republican, I was pleased to hear his support. "
Leonard wrote on Jun 8, 2009 6:05 AM:
Happily, there is hope that this process is already underway. Polling shows that homophobia is much less prevalent amongst Americans under thirty than it is in the baby boomer generation.
Yes, one generation has managed (by a narrow margin) to enshrine its prejudice in law today but (thankfully) tomorrow is another day. "
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