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Marijuana could be a financial boom for Lodi and San Joaquin County, supporter of legalization says
If marijuana is legalized, one proponent of the drug says San Joaquin County could soon see a new type of tourist who doesn't swirl, sniff and sip from a wine glass, but instead rolls, lights and tokes a joint.
The debate on legalizing marijuana has taken on new life with the state mired in a multi-billion dollar deficit, a change in administration in Washington, D.C., and growing social acceptance for marijuana.
A San Francisco lawmaker has introduced legislation to legalize the drug, and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has said he's open to hearing proposals on the issue.
For Cliff Schaffer, a Los Angeles-based proponent of legalization, it's not a matter of years until legalization — it's a matter of months.
And he's convinced that San Joaquin County and the rest of the valley should use its excellent soil and sophisticated ag-industry to take advantage of the coming reefer riches. He envisions a region in which sophisticated pot connoisseurs could tour from grower to grower, sampling their wares.
Schaffer puts the value of the state's illicit marijuana crop at around $11.6 billion based on what has been seized by the authorities.
"If all we did was take that and sell it through licensed distributors, that would solve most of the problems of the Central Valley," he said.
But Schaffer goes further in saying that pot aficionados would pay even higher prices for weed of the highest quality, grown in the best conditions. He said that if anyone were to visit one of the dozens of L.A.-area medical marijuana dispensaries, they would find consumers evaluating the product based on appearance, aroma, flavor and potency.
"Instead of 30 varieties of wine, you got 30 varieties of weed," he said. "The behavior of consumers is very similar to that of consumers in a good wine store. There's a lot of sex appeal in it, taste appeal in it."
How much money could you make?
Cliff Schaffer, an expert on drug laws and a proponent of decriminalizing marijuana, said the returns on pot could be astounding.He breaks it down like this:
Schaffer said that with thousands of different varieties of marijuana, he could see clusters of small growers each focused on producing their own style of marijuana.
"Therefore, I think you'll see something very much like the wine market," he said. "The Central Valley could be an accelerated version of Napa Valley."
Local reactions to Schaffer's vision are not so enthusiastic.
"I would not want Lodi to be known as the marijuana capital of San Joaquin County," said Lodi Mayor Larry Hansen, a former police chief. "I like it being the zinfandel capital of the world."
Hansen said that he has come to realize that the nation is losing the war on drugs as it spends billions on enforcement and incarcerates people for various drug offenses. But he said "the cop in me" knows that legalization will come with further abuse.
If there's no threat of incarceration or arrest, Hansen said more people will be driving after smoking weed, or experimenting with harder drugs.
He said he wouldn't be surprised to see a ballot proposition to legalize marijuana, and he also wouldn't lose sleep if someone were to open a pot farm near Lodi.
"If it was legalized, it's out of my hands," he said. "I wouldn't like it, but I wouldn't fret or agonize over it."
Hansen noted that a few local winegrape growers have opted to pull their vines in favor of olive trees, so he knows they're open to new crops, but he said the stigma that comes with marijuana would be hard to overcome.
And he added that he just doesn't understand the allure.
"I never tried it. I've never wanted to try it. I've never understood it, so it's hard for me to grasp the draw to it because I've never experienced it," he said.
Joe Valente, former San Joaquin County Farm Bureau president and vineyard manager for Kautz Farms, was surprised at the very thought of local farmers growing marijuana.
"I've never heard a farmer saying they'd be interested in doing it," he said. "I could understand they could grow it and tax the hell out of it, but politically it's still an illegal drug, and how do you get past that hurdle?"
And Valente added that claims of legalized weed being a cure-all for the state's finances could prove too good to be true once marijuana cultivation is put to the test of the open market.
"The crops that make money, everyone plants, and then there's an oversupply of it and prices go down so they have to look at something else," he said.
Prices would drop with legalization, Schaffer said, but he points out that wine is still a profitable business, and he maintains that the market could sustain several different price points — meaning that if a farmer works to produce the very best product, he could still see a healthy profit.
He estimates the return to farmers to be in the range of tens of billions of dollars.
Jon Tecklenburg, owner of Tecklenburg Ranch, said he could see the money-making potential of marijuana, and he also knows from stumbling on illegal marijuana crops tucked away in corn fields and on Delta islands that the plant would prosper in the valley.
But as someone who has had melons and other produce stolen from his ranch, it's the security question that concerns him.
"Offend me, no; but worrisome, yes. I'd be more concerned with guys trying to steal it," he said.
Tecklenburg said he now has a six-foot-tall fence topped with barbed wire to protect his produce, and wonders what would be needed to secure a pot farm.
Schaffer said that any farmer who didn't have the resources to protect his investment would be quickly forced out of business.
He said there's no end to the nation's demand for marijuana, and there's three sources of supply: organized crime, private business or the government.
Right now, he said, organized crime is running the show, and the government would do a terrible job.
"Think of the situation if the government decided to produce all the wine. You wouldn't get much variety, and mediocre quality," he said.
That leaves the private sector, and Schaffer said he's already getting several calls a week from people who are trying to find resources for more information on how to grow themselves.
"The typical profile of someone who wants to go into growing is an established businessman with interests in other property who's never considered it before," he said. "These are basically established, mature business people who want to do it as a business. They want to be in on the ground floor."
Contact City Editor Andrew Adams at andrewa@lodinews.com.

Reader Feedback
brinna wrote on Jun 4, 2009 8:02 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jun 3, 2009 12:02 AM:
dyan wrote on Jun 2, 2009 1:43 PM:
SJUNE74 wrote on Jun 2, 2009 12:10 AM:
Janice M. Bonser wrote on Jun 1, 2009 4:39 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jun 1, 2009 10:34 AM:
Former Dealer wrote on May 31, 2009 10:06 PM:
"Children" should not be exposed to any mind altering subtance including nicotine. That being said, adults should be able to indulge in marijuana recreationally.
What message do we want to send to youth? We have a rainbow of regulated substances that children are educated to abstain from or "use responsibly" when they reach legal age. On the other hand we have marijuana. Relatvely benign and entirely un-regulated. This drug is by all accounts far more easy to obtain by kids than alcohol or cigarettes. I never carded anyone, ever.
Which drugs do you want you kids to have access to from dealers like I was?
Keep those drugs unregulated and on the black market. " "
Cogito wrote on May 31, 2009 3:29 PM:
dogs4you wrote on May 31, 2009 3:04 PM:
dogs4you wrote on May 31, 2009 2:17 PM:
gwsii wrote on May 31, 2009 1:28 PM:
News Flash: People who want to smoke pot ARE smoking pot and we're already paying the "cost" associated with that.
WHO ARE all these people who will start smoking pot once it's legalized who had no desire for it before? Pot is already a part of our culture and has been for DECADES and like it or not it's here to stay.
I personally HATE hard alcohol and bars and the stink of cigarettes and all of the ill effects these have on society. But I know that I can no more control the behavior of a drinker than I can control the behavior of a tobacco smoker, so I am mature enough to live in a free society.
Are you? "
dogs4you wrote on May 31, 2009 1:22 PM:
dogs4you wrote on May 31, 2009 1:07 PM:
Concerning pot, if it gets leagalized there might be a section in the local supermarket deadicated to weed. In the early 70`s the Fed`s started to put warning labels on smokes, not that it did any good as people continued to puff away, only when it was determined that smoking caused cancer, all advertising was removed from TV and raido, now people are dying from smoking related cancers. If weed gets legalized, will warning lables be put on however pot is sole warning people of the dangers of smoking. As long as a joint will make their problems go away for an hour or so, who gives a s***. The Fed`s are doing their best to stop people from smoking, but if there`s a buck or two to be made and get Kalifornia out of the billion`s of dollars of a hole their in, be a hypocrite, no body cares anymore. Blackwater will be hired to protect the "grow gardens" "
SeaBass wrote on May 31, 2009 11:47 AM:
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html
If you actually pay attention to the statistics, the whole "War on Drugs" has actually increased drug use (same with the "War on Terror"). The thing is, when you make such a big deal about something you attract attention to it. Having cartoon characters warn our kids about smoking, drinking and drugs does the exact opposite of what is intended. It's time for people to wake up to the reality of the situation, the US spends tens of billions of dollars fighting drug use and yet has the highest percentage of cannabis and cocaine use out of any country.
All the resistance to drugs has only made the problem worse, not better. It's time for people to radically rethink how they approach these types of issues. "
RV wrote on May 31, 2009 11:10 AM:
wtf wrote on May 31, 2009 10:15 AM:
wtf wrote on May 31, 2009 10:11 AM:
You're right not to, Cogito. This same bozo showed up on the teaparty blog trying to first, say s/he felt sorry for those in Lodi, then tried to say s/he was a leader of the local Republican party. When called on it, s/he said they lived in Aruba...can't believe that one, either. LOL! Seems like a paid shill to me; but the PR firm must be outsourcing. "
Cogito wrote on May 31, 2009 9:27 AM:
lodivice wrote on May 31, 2009 8:44 AM:
M2CW wrote on May 31, 2009 7:44 AM:
jbhiker wrote on May 31, 2009 5:55 AM:
Cogito wrote on May 31, 2009 12:53 AM:
onestooge wrote on May 30, 2009 10:23 PM:
lodivice wrote on May 30, 2009 9:07 PM:
lodi boy wrote on May 30, 2009 7:05 PM:
People need to do things in moderation. The problem is - many things get people so happy or intoxicated they don't know when to stop. "
Janice M. Bonser wrote on May 30, 2009 5:06 PM:
dragonfaire wrote on May 30, 2009 4:52 PM:
what22 wrote on May 30, 2009 3:29 PM:
what22 wrote on May 30, 2009 3:26 PM:
wtf wrote on May 30, 2009 2:55 PM:
Washington, DC: More Americans report misusing prescription opioids than trying pot, according to a study released last week by the National Drug Intelligence Center (NDIC) and the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA).
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7885
Government Report: National Prescription Drug Threat Assessment 2009
http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs33/33775/index.htm "
pork chop wrote on May 30, 2009 2:10 PM:
Attitude wrote on May 30, 2009 1:23 PM:
jramagic wrote on May 30, 2009 12:58 PM:
Great American Trucker wrote on May 30, 2009 12:50 PM:
Dopers don't run the show nor do they vote, so perhaps we can move on to more pressing matters? "
Cogito wrote on May 30, 2009 12:23 PM:
voter wrote on May 30, 2009 11:45 AM:
wtf wrote on May 30, 2009 11:26 AM:
wtf wrote on May 30, 2009 11:25 AM:
In this way, the entire plant is made use of for products and almost zero goes to waste. Hemp fiber items last much longer than those made of other fibers and the cost is now comparable to "regular" clothing items. The following are links to hemp clothing items, bed linens, shoes, etc.
http://store.hempest.com/catalog/
http://www.dashhemp.com/
http://www.rawganique.com/index.htm "
pooreastside wrote on May 30, 2009 10:17 AM:
Tax revenue? You cut the tobacco growers throat for giving people cancer, there went that revenue. Substitute pot and see what you get. "
Acampo_Mom wrote on May 30, 2009 10:16 AM:
Acampo_Mom wrote on May 30, 2009 10:15 AM:
Cogito wrote on May 30, 2009 10:07 AM:
Acampo_Mom wrote on May 30, 2009 9:53 AM:
lodisafeway wrote on May 30, 2009 9:51 AM:
While stationed at Bitburg AB, Germany in the early 80s, I saw first-hand what Holland (specifically Amsterdam) was like. The level of debauchery was sickening and maddening. Too many military members lost their careers as well as their freedom and families as a result of visiting that country.
It's like Las Vegas, touting itself as a "family" destination. Yeah right! Gambling and illegal prostitution (can't practice that fun activity legally within the city limits), just what every family needs. Simply because a city or nation says they're good doesn't mean that it's true. I'd no more take my children to Vegas than I would to Amsterdam.
We're ridding ourselves of nearly every ounce of decency for the sake of a good time or the generation of taxes. I only hope that before it's too late, Americans will wake up reset their moral compass. "
Cogito wrote on May 30, 2009 9:35 AM:
Cogito wrote on May 30, 2009 9:27 AM:
Whoa Nellie! wrote on May 30, 2009 9:26 AM:
JRAMAGIC- you really must be off your meds, or just a kook. Earlier this week you are promoting the idea of a local currency (scrip) and now you're leading the march to growing pot instead of grapes. "
T & C wrote on May 30, 2009 8:48 AM:
We have DRUG Screening for a very important rason: "To keep responsible people off drugs!
Don't use and sell drugs and Bubba will NOT be your roommate! Those who use drugs WANT POT LEGAL so they can get as high as they can, as often as they can without being harassed! "
jbhiker wrote on May 30, 2009 8:46 AM:
voter wrote on May 30, 2009 8:41 AM:
jbhiker wrote on May 30, 2009 8:21 AM:
"Legalizing pot will have NO IMPACT WHATSOEVER"
There is plenty of empirical data to suggest otherwise. If you do a Google of this topic, legalizing it in other countries as well as decriminalizing it in the US has caused some rather odd problems: Per Capita productivity drops, educational excellence declines (we see this in America now), Social problems within families increases (we see this in America as well), high dropout rates in educational institutions (sound familiar), poor fetal growth in expectant mothers (these kids have problems, too), increases in crime, etc.. I think you better do some research to support your argument. Legalize, NO. Decriminalize, YES. Same as Cigarettes and Alcohol. Then let the Advocacy Groups take over. This would put the marijuana drug dealers out of business as Meth people switch to cheaper POT. Oh and decriminalizing it reduced the number of Emergency Room related events for all drugs but Marijuana. Pot smokers saw an increase in their emergency room visits. Probably doing something stupid and got hurt. Overall Crime did not increase - too lazy. "
Acampo_Mom wrote on May 30, 2009 8:15 AM:
If they were to do that, and the gov. put their little tax stamp on it like the do on cigarettes, think of the tax revenue! "
Cogito wrote on May 30, 2009 8:10 AM:
Cogito wrote on May 30, 2009 8:07 AM:
jramagic wrote on May 30, 2009 8:06 AM:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor_Wears_No_Clothes "
jramagic wrote on May 30, 2009 8:02 AM:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp_For_Victory "
jramagic wrote on May 30, 2009 7:36 AM:
jramagic wrote on May 30, 2009 7:32 AM:
Patricia wrote on May 30, 2009 7:12 AM:
jbhiker wrote on May 30, 2009 6:41 AM:
todd432 wrote on May 30, 2009 6:26 AM:
effa56 wrote on May 30, 2009 6:25 AM:
you just can t walk in and buy with out a medical card. these places have to keep records checked often. "
Robb wrote on May 30, 2009 5:56 AM:
jway wrote on May 30, 2009 4:22 AM:
The easy access our children have to marijuana wasn't there before the prohibition started, it is a result of the prohibition.
Tell your legislators. The prohibition harms us, our society and our children. Legalize the production and sale of marijuana to adults. "
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