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Lodi City Council approves step toward concert at Grape Bowl

'Nationally known act' may be booked for end of July

By Maggie Creamer
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:07 AM PDT

Living next to the Grape Bowl, Patricia McConville has listened to baseball games, marching bands and graduation ceremonies for more than 50 years at her home on Calaveras Street.

When she heard about the city's idea to bring a summer concert to the Grape Bowl, she said it will not bother her any more than the other events do when it comes to noise.

"The people in cars would be more of a nuisance ... They better make sure they have enough parking if they are going to have a big concert," McConville said.

At the Lodi City Council meeting Wednesday night, the council gave the go-ahead for Interim Director Jim Rodems to start the process of bringing a "nationally known act" to the Grape Bowl at the end of July. A local promoter has offered to bring the act, which Rodems could only describe as classic rock appealing to people over 20.

The concert would be the first in many years at the stadium. Rodems said the last big concert he knew of was Foreigner in 1978.

The show has not been booked, and the reason city staff needed to get approval to start negotiations is because the city has a 2005 policy that limited any additional events from coming to the Grape Bowl, other than those already allowed there.

The main reason for the 2005 policy is because the Grape Bowl is not compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act .

For the concert, the city will use portable ADA compliant concession stands and restrooms.

The council also voted April 15 to spend $816,000 in county, city and donated funds to make the stadium accessible to people with disabilities. The council also approved $1.2 million in impact fees to install artificial turf to create the city's first year-round field.

The concert could generate revenue for improvement to the Grape Bowl or to go into the Parks and Recreation Fund to put on other events, Rodems said.

The council voted 4-1 to approve the one-time concert use. Councilman Bob Johnson voted against the one-time approval because he believed the council should allow city staff to put on any event there without getting council approval first.

"I don't want every time you want to do something you have to come back and go through this nonsense," Johnson said, in reference to Rodems.

Councilwoman Susan Hitchcock had concerns about neighbors who might be worried about noise. She said neighbors in the area prepare for the Grape Festival every year, but might not be prepared for a concert.

"We have to be judicious about how often we do this," Hitchcock said.

Before the concert, Rodems said the city will contact the neighbors to let them know about the concert. He said it will be used as a learning experience and his staff will measure how loud the noise-level is in the neighborhoods and monitor the parking situation.

Don Bricker, a member of the Grape Bowl advisory committee, said he remembers when there were concerts in the Grape Bowl. He said the whole idea of renovating the Grape Bowl is to have more events like concerts.

"Let's promote concerts to try and pay for it," he said.

McConville said she does not remember being bothered by previous concerts in the '60s and '70s.

"Everyone was so happy to have Lawrence Welk, no one was going to complain," she said.

Across the street, Matthew Brady's house backs up to the Grape Bowl, and he said he has always lived near festival grounds.

He said the noise doesn't bother him, but he asked with a grin if they will get free tickets because when he has lived other places, cities have offered free tickets to neighbors.

Down the street, Rose and Kevin Bosche stood with their dogs outside within earshot of cheering from a game at Tony Zupo Field. Neither is bothered by the noise behind their house, but hope there is enough security.

"As long as they finish at a decent hour and have security to get the kids out," Rose Bosche said.

Contact reporter Maggie Creamer at maggiec@lodinews.com or read her blog at www.lodinews.com/blog/citybuzz.

Reader Feedback

pettyfan wrote on May 30, 2009 8:05 PM:

" ♫ "Let's get to the point, let's roll another joint...."♫ "

pettyfan wrote on May 30, 2009 8:02 PM:

" I like George Thorogood but he plays The Fat Cat in Modesto and Tom Petty fills the Hollywood Bowl....Hmmmm.....who would be better?? "

JustTheFacts wrote on May 29, 2009 7:14 PM:

" Indeed it would Cogito. Indeed it would.
Sounds like that you've seen some good concerts. Would love to compare notes with you sometime. How about over a bourbon, a scotch and maybe even a beer. "

Cogito wrote on May 28, 2009 9:48 PM:

" JustTheFacts, if they could land the man, it would be Thoroughly Good! "

JustTheFacts wrote on May 28, 2009 9:46 AM:

" I've heard a couple of rumors as to who might be playing. IMHO... anything that they could get at the Grape Bowl would be bad... make that b-b-b-b-bad, and I mean that as a good thing. "

stantaves wrote on May 27, 2009 12:31 PM:

" Did anyone mention Van Morrison? "

pettyfan wrote on May 24, 2009 10:40 PM:

" That would be so AWESOME if it were Tom Petty! Tom, come to Lodi! It isn't the Hollywood Bowl but I know you could rock Lodi! "

Brian wrote on May 24, 2009 12:19 PM:

" the first time I saw Santana was here in AZ in 1986. Buddy Miles was the lead singer at the time. The power went out momentarily during the concert and the band scrambled to keep the audience from leaving. Carlos played the drums for a while. I'm all for Santana in Lodi. You would surely see people ranging from 70 all the way down to the teens. "

Observer wrote on May 23, 2009 7:41 AM:

" On the more realistic side a possible band would be Huey Lewis and the News. I think they would be a great draw plus the fact they're from the Bay Area. "

roni95242 wrote on May 22, 2009 3:28 PM:

" ANY of the above mentioned bands would be great with me! My we have good taste here in Lodi~ "

Cogito wrote on May 22, 2009 2:41 PM:

" Lodian, I had the black one with the 3 guys pictures on it. I think it was an L, I buy XXL tshirts now. "

Lodian wrote on May 22, 2009 2:15 PM:

" Cogito: LOL! Nope.. I was the one with THE POLICE t-shirt and short shorts (remember those? LOL). "

sam wrote on May 22, 2009 2:15 PM:

" Observer... Chicago? I saw them in SF...

I remember going to a concert in the delta on an island... it was called The Festival Of The Full Moon. I saw this new unknown band... The Grateful Dead.

Haa... and Aerosmith is STILL amazing !

Jefferson Airplane played at my high school... long before they were famous.

The memories !!! "

Cogito wrote on May 22, 2009 1:51 PM:

" Lodian, were you the hippie chick doing the interpretive dance? "

Lodian wrote on May 22, 2009 1:16 PM:

" Observer: I am right there with ya... great list! "

wtf wrote on May 22, 2009 11:44 AM:

" Wow Observer....that list brings back memories!!! ;) "

Observer wrote on May 22, 2009 10:47 AM:

" Ok, as long as we're dreaming I have a few suggestions (and they are all still performing): Paul McCartney, Rod Stewart, Aerosmith, Three Dog Night, The Who, Eric Clapton, Doobie Brothers, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, Barry Manilow (I know, but he's a great concert), Bon Jovi, Jefferson Starship, Chicago and I can come up a lot more. "

Lodian wrote on May 22, 2009 9:50 AM:

" dog4you: You assume too much. I work from home too. "

Lodian wrote on May 22, 2009 9:45 AM:

" Maybe Adam Lambert would come to Lodi. ;-) "

Lodian wrote on May 22, 2009 9:43 AM:

" Cogito wrote "I saw Santana with The Police in Sacramento in the 80s. I didn't even know they were the guest band. Good surprise. The percussion needs to be experienced to be believed. Incredible!"

Cogito: We were at the same concert! :-) "

blossom wrote on May 22, 2009 9:12 AM:

" Santana would be cool, Frankly I am just excited that they are promoting somthing for people to do in Lodi besides DRINK!!
Even the group RAIN that playes at the festival aka the beatles would be fine ANYTHING!!! "

weezer wrote on May 22, 2009 8:46 AM:

" wtf, David Gilmour alone can bring the Pink Floyd sound. I'm not sure about the sights though.

Would this do
To make it all right
While sleep has taken you
Where I'm out of sight

I'll make my getaway
Time on my own
Search for a better way
To find my way home
To your smile... "

wtf wrote on May 22, 2009 8:36 AM:

" Santana or Pink Floyd....tough decision! Providing Lodi could get either one, they'd both be excellent choices.

Not only is Santana multi-generational, it would also be multi-cultural; whereas, Pink Floyd has such a huge following, that Lodi could probably advertise their appearance as far as San Francisco and get an overflow crowd. ;) "

wtf wrote on May 22, 2009 8:09 AM:

" Cogito you surprise me! LOL! We watched the Pulse video one New Year's Eve....what a way to bring in the New Year!

What's always amazed me regarding Pink Floyd concerts is the fact that people will sit and be quiet as they perform - whether old or young - they don't want to miss a thing since the light shows are as exciting as the music.

This Floyd video goes out to all the politicians! ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_ofFa50LzY


When I read the Santana suggestion, the song "Oye Como Va" popped into my head. Love to cha cha! ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpPb2cVswlI "

dogs4you wrote on May 21, 2009 11:14 PM:

" Sam this might be to late, but check out that lions head, much more than a lions head. "

Cogito wrote on May 21, 2009 9:18 PM:

" Blink 182 will be on tour with Weezer. They will swing through NorCal in September. They will play in Auburn, Shoreline, and Sleep Train. "

Cogito wrote on May 21, 2009 8:54 PM:

" Sam, the album (old guy vernacular) "Santana" was indeed released in 1969. Had the song "Evil Ways" along with "Soul Sacrifice". It went double platinum. "

Cogito wrote on May 21, 2009 8:44 PM:

" I saw Santana with The Police in Sacramento in the 80s. I didn't even know they were the guest band. Good surprise. The percussion needs to be experienced to be believed. Incredible! "

Cogito wrote on May 21, 2009 8:41 PM:

" For all you Floyd fans out there, buy the double DVD "Pulse". Its a live performance at the Royal Albert Hall in London. The music, and the light show are as awesome as anything you've seen. It's a must have for any Floyd fan. If you have a 50" or bigger with surround sound, it's great. It was recorded in analog, so you get a lot of color bleeding with the red lights at certain points. They do the entire "Dark Side of the Moon" album on disc 2, including the original studio saxophonist (I think). My wife became a huge David Gilmore fan after watching it only once. They could still sell out the biggest venues for multiple dates. Truly a great band. "

sam wrote on May 21, 2009 7:42 PM:

" My second favorite is SMOOTH with Santana and Rob Thomas... wow, what a combination. "

sam wrote on May 21, 2009 7:40 PM:

" Dogs, my favorite Santana album, which I still have, is the one with the lion's head on the cover. I believe it was released in 1969. I love it and treasure it. "

sam wrote on May 21, 2009 7:32 PM:

" Scrutiny, 60-70??? Bahahahahaha... too funny. "

Scrutiny wrote on May 21, 2009 7:09 PM:

" Sam, I thought you were like a 60-70 year old woman! But your taste in music defies that logic! Whats up with that? "

dogs4you wrote on May 21, 2009 7:09 PM:

" wtf & sam. lets see how far back you go concerning one of Santana`s album`s. It was called Abraxas and came out on a 33 1/3 piece of vinal. I still have it though it was worn out many years ago. The package it came it is very hard to describe, if you have it you will know what I mean. Black Majic Woman just might be the best. Carlos is getting older but still ranks amoung the best to have ever picked up a guitar, along with Steve Ray Vaughn. "

wtf wrote on May 21, 2009 6:05 PM:

" To sam: LOL!

Seriously, either Santana or Pink Floyd...they'd bring in the older crowd ;) not to mention younger people as well. I grew up listening to Santana and my daughter likes them as well. A real crowd pleaser - not to mention multi-generaltional - if we could get them. LOL! "

sam wrote on May 21, 2009 5:59 PM:

" wtf, Santana??? I knew I liked you. Great Taste. "

dogs4you wrote on May 21, 2009 5:54 PM:

" midtowner, I saw blink 182 on the Tonight Show the other night, I suppose cake, red hot chili peppers and green day are alike. Not all that talented, two guys and the lead screamer, they all sound the same. "

wtf wrote on May 21, 2009 5:52 PM:

" Santana....totally agree! While we're dreaming, how about Pink Floyd? LOL! Looks like they're still touring.

http://eventful.com/performers/pink-floyd-/P0-001-000000652-6 "

sam wrote on May 21, 2009 5:37 PM:

" sorry .. I meant "too much fun" for the "anal on spelling" patrol guys. "

sam wrote on May 21, 2009 5:35 PM:

" Cog, I love 5 for fighting....

Whoa, or Half full, you know this is just a fun Wish List. Suzie will never allow any of this. It is to much fun ! "

Cogito wrote on May 21, 2009 5:30 PM:

" Not too many big rooms for Journey any more. They've stunk since Greg Rollie left. "

Cogito wrote on May 21, 2009 5:29 PM:

" Whoanellie, if you noticed, every act I've endorsed is straight off the winery circuit, playing similar venues (except Green Day). Five for fighting is another local act that is great live. I saw them in a bar/nightclub in Modesto. The old bands with the big names are their best hope. Hopefully it won't be a hillbilly act. "

Whoa Nellie! wrote on May 21, 2009 5:17 PM:

" you bloggers are histarical! "this band" or "that band" being tossed about like Liveable Loveable Lodi actually has a chance of landing such an act... at such a venue.

Yes, I'd love to have AC/DC, Journey, John Mayer, etc etc come to town. But wake up and smell the coffee! Of course, with our luck we'd get some C&W one hit wonder like Billy Ray Cyrus! roflmao!

Midtowner- you're rock'n some hip tunes for an older dude! I'd love to see whats on your iPod. How 'bout a lil "Highway to Hell"??? "

weezer wrote on May 21, 2009 4:55 PM:

" midtowner, not really living in the past... just staying within the "classic rock appealing to people over 20" category. "

Cogito wrote on May 21, 2009 4:49 PM:

" Midtowner, Green Day and Cake may work, they're both local. Blink broke up as far as I know. I'd love a "Blues Bill". BB King, Tommy Castro, Johnny Lang, Kenny Wayne Shepard, Charlie Sexton....nuff said. But I'm also a big Green Day fan. "

boonablis wrote on May 21, 2009 4:44 PM:

" eazy E would be great. wait, he died from aids "

midtowner wrote on May 21, 2009 4:16 PM:

" Or Offspring. "

midtowner wrote on May 21, 2009 4:07 PM:

" How about Cake, Blink 182, Red Hot Chili Peppers or Green Day? Too many people living in the past on this post. "

sam wrote on May 21, 2009 3:16 PM:

" Neo, how about Guns N Roses? Sweet Child of Mine ! "

sam wrote on May 21, 2009 3:15 PM:

" Dogs, the Jonas Brothers are a teeny bopper all boy band... for 13 year olds? The Obama girls LOVE them.

Santana... YES !!!! I loved Buffalo Springfield... until they morphed into Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young. Loved them too.

John Mayer is good... I LOVE the Fray... How about ICP or Disturbed??
... and I also love a touch of Keith Urban.

and Dogs, you are correct, I DO NOT work for the government. "

dogs4you wrote on May 21, 2009 1:55 PM:

" Sam & Neo I stand corrected. And Neo who are the Jonas Bros. I have never heard of them, another garage band? Motley Crew a wholesome outfit?

You want good music, try John Mayer or the Doobie Brothers, now your talking, maybe Santana.

And Sam, if business is booming, you sure don`t work for the government. Good luck and now back to work. "

Neo wrote on May 21, 2009 12:54 PM:

" AC/DC! KISS! Come on people, dont you realize what those acronyms stand for??
Lodi will not tolerate that Anti Christ/Death Child or Knights In Satans Service to play here! We need a nice wholesome band like Motley Crue! "

PAL wrote on May 21, 2009 12:18 PM:

" KISS, can we get Kiss .....please.
Ok, so that is my rock band dream concert. just a thought.
It is nice to see it in use again,. There was once a 50's concert with antique cars in the grape bowl. It was a lot of fun. They should bring it back. "

Half Full wrote on May 21, 2009 12:14 PM:

" M2CW- That's a typo right? 2009 minus 1978 = 31.

Sam, I'm glad I could provide you with a chuckle during your day.

But I think some of you are really putting the cart in front of the horse with some of your "wish list" band suggestions. There are alotta I's to dot and T's to cross to make an event like this to happen. My guess is less than 20% of a chance. "

sam wrote on May 21, 2009 11:26 AM:

" dogs said "I would think that anyone that has posted this morning is in one of two catagories, out of work, or retired..."

Dogs, I am self-employed and am looking at a 10 hour day. Business is booming and I love it ! "

M2CW wrote on May 21, 2009 11:11 AM:

" Day on the Grape!!!! Finally! Another one!!!! It only took 21 years to book the second act! "

Neo wrote on May 21, 2009 11:09 AM:

" Dogs, some of us just have the day off and are cleaning up the yard. So you`re saying that you wouldn`t go see the Jonas Brothers? "

dogs4you wrote on May 21, 2009 10:20 AM:

" I would think that anyone that has posted this morning is in one of two catagories, out of work, or retired, maybe a third, kids that ditched school today. I`ll go retired like me, glad I have other things to do rather than sit in front of this contraption and go back and forth all day. Later though, I`ll be back, and maybe Arnold will be gone, along with the rest of those dolts in Sacto. "

dogs4you wrote on May 21, 2009 10:14 AM:

" Though the "Eagles" might not come to a night at the "Grape" their music is timeless. I saw them at Arco a couple of years ago and would pay good money to see them again.

Neo, now a days anyone with a hang nail can get a medical marijuana card. I can handle a few beers, but I don`t want to have to much of anything and then have to ask my buddy if I had a good time the other night.

While I like music of all kinds, blues is my favorite. The last thing I need is 1,000 14 year olds girls screaming in my ears. Getting to old for the young set. "

Cogito wrote on May 21, 2009 9:41 AM:

" Sam, saw AC/DC on the "Money Talks" tour. What a blast. They got a formula that works, and they work it well. "

Neo wrote on May 21, 2009 9:41 AM:

" Anf of course the biggest question is will medicinal marijuana be permitted at this event? "

Neo wrote on May 21, 2009 9:40 AM:

" Let`s not forget what happened at Day on the Grape! Didn`t one of the promoters run off with all the money??
Let`s try to make sure that doesnt happen again please! "

roni95242 wrote on May 21, 2009 9:34 AM:

" Let's have a concert. I think it would be fun!!
Why not even have wine tasting events or open bars?
I am not a wine drinker I would rather have a Corona stroll.
Maybe Brett Michaels??? LOL "

Gator wrote on May 21, 2009 9:14 AM:

" Once upon a time Lodi had one of the best Rod runs on the west coast and true to form they were made to feel less than welcome !! Well they moved it
to Merced and it became next to Pleasanton the biggest run north of LA. Ask The cities of Merced and Pleasanton how much money pours into those cities over the 3 days!!! Pleasanton twice a year… "

gail1 wrote on May 21, 2009 9:11 AM:

" PLEASE DO SOMETHING WIHT THE GRAPEBOWL..LETS TRY TO PUT LOVE BACK IN LODI. "

sam wrote on May 21, 2009 9:01 AM:

" Diry deeds done dirt cheap... Cog, one can dream !!! "

Cogito wrote on May 21, 2009 8:53 AM:

" Half full, remember, Greg Kihn was there because 10cc bailed. I was bummed because I was a big 10cc fan. They were a great band who never made it big here. Maybe it was because they bailed on concerts. I'd like to see Steely Dan, The Doobs if at least Johnston and Simmons showed up. John Fogerty would be a get, but not CCRevisited. Metallica and AC/DC would never happen, too big, too rowdy of fans. I wouldn't cross the street to see Journey or REO. Bonnie Raitt, you betcha! BB King, bbingo! Collective Soul, great band, low recognition on the left coast. Crosby, Stills, and Nash are hitting the circuit this summer, I'd pay to see that.....twice. "

lodidian wrote on May 21, 2009 8:41 AM:

" Every thing has a life---a beginning, a middle and an end. The grape bowl has lived a great and full life but it is now on financial life support. We can give it an artificial turf transplant and use portable toilets and concession stands but it is only a matter of time. Please---someone--- "pull the plug"! "

weezer wrote on May 21, 2009 8:41 AM:

" Neo, Nickelback doesn't fall in the category of classic rock just yet.
Think early 90's and earlier.
From my MP3 player, bands that are still touring:
Def Leppard, Styx, REO Speedwagon, Heart, Journey, Bon Jovi, Chicago, Collective Soul... or AC/DC, please? "

Rhodie wrote on May 21, 2009 8:37 AM:

" I say Dolly Parton. She's got a new album out. "

sam wrote on May 21, 2009 8:36 AM:

" Whoa Nellie, the "fun sheriff"? Too funny. Thanks for the chuckle. "

sam wrote on May 21, 2009 8:35 AM:

" Metallica..(wow), Tesla (excellent also), Journey (nice)...
but Nickleback would be amazing !!! "

weezer wrote on May 21, 2009 8:33 AM:

" classic rock appealing to people over 20...

60 years old is over 20.
Creedence Clearwater stuck in Lodi? lol "

NoLongerInLodi wrote on May 21, 2009 8:32 AM:

" First I thought of was Journey and Tesla, though I could also see some other Sacramento area bands (Papa Roach, etc.)do this if promoted right "

Neo wrote on May 21, 2009 8:21 AM:

" Let`s see.. who could the band be..? Metallica? Nah.. Tesla? perhaps.. Journey? possibly.. but Nickleback would be like totally super-fantastic!! "

Whoa Nellie! wrote on May 21, 2009 8:16 AM:

" 4A - I think she is the "Fun Sherrif." "

Whoa Nellie! wrote on May 21, 2009 8:15 AM:

" My only concern is what "nationally known act" would come to Lodi and the aging Grape Bowl?

Sure, many "nationally known acts" can be seen at the county fair, aspargus festival, etc, but the band is usually way past their prime (ex: Tubes @ Aspargus Fest).

Could enough tickets be sold to cover the very detailed contract? Not to mention the incredible cost of overhead items. Who is on the line financially? City of Lodi or this unknown Promoter?

Lawrence Welk... rofl! Yes, back when the Eastside was safe. 50 yrs ago. "

4AStrongLodi wrote on May 21, 2009 8:11 AM:

" Why is Susan Witchcock always a stick in the mud? "

Half Full wrote on May 21, 2009 7:41 AM:

" Oh, what great memories from that Foreigner concert, also including UFO, Nick Gilder, and Greg Khin.

Party on Wayne.

Party on Garth. "

Cogito wrote on May 21, 2009 7:26 AM:

" Hopefully they'll have a little more success than Stockton had with Neil Diamond. "

kidsalami wrote on May 21, 2009 7:22 AM:

" I wouldn't hold my breath. We were supposed to get Lonestar there a few years ago and they pulled out at the last minute. "

effa56 wrote on May 21, 2009 5:26 AM:

" there have been other concerts there since 78, elvin bishop with associations gary lewis and the playboys plus more it was fun no problems and it stated kind of early so it did not bother neighbors after 1100pm/ good money to be made. what better place than good ol lodi "

KenH wrote on May 21, 2009 5:02 AM:

" Actually this is awesome news and hope it is successful to where we'll continue to see concerts flow through the Grapebowl and have enough revenue to fix it...perhaps even enough revenue to build a parking garage across the street from it (next to AAMCO) so that people have a safe place to park for when they want to attend grapebowl events such as these :D "

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