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No valid reason for backing pot prohibition
Monday, April 27, 2009 6:51 AM PDT
This letter is in regard to the Lodi City Council reviewing a temporary ban on medical marijuana outlets.
It's amazing that fascist little towns all over California are seeking to ban medical marijuana even though it is legal under state law and the Feds are now out of the picture, when they have not stopped recreational use with 70 years of reefer madness lies. They cannot cite any valid reasons for supporting marijuana prohibition other than the original racist lies used to outlaw marijuana:
"Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice." (Hearst newspapers nationwide, 1934)
"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the U.S., and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana can cause white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others."
" ... the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."
— Federal Bureau of Narcotics Director Harry J. Anslinger, 1930
"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."
— Federal Bureau of Narcotics Director Harry J. Anslinger, 1929
"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality and death."
"Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."
"(Smoking) one (marihuana) cigarette might develop a homicidal mania, probably to kill his brother." (U.S. Government Propaganda To Outlaw Marijuana, www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/taxact/t3.htm)
Lodi is merely expressing the official U.S. policy regarding marijuana during the 1930s, '40s and '50s. They no longer dare to advertise the racism behind the pot laws they love so much, but they rejoice at being able to punish marijuana "criminals." One can only wonder what their next injustice will be.
Ralph Givens
Daly City
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Lodian wrote on May 4, 2009 11:06 AM:
" You are confused, Lodian. Pot smoking is a liberal thing. "
I see, dyan, you think your Republican Oxycontin addiction is more acceptable. "
dyan wrote on May 3, 2009 10:06 AM:
dyan wrote on May 3, 2009 9:59 AM:
Lodian wrote on May 2, 2009 8:44 PM:
"Potheads in Lodi are a fact. No names are mentioned."
Did you want them to mention your name, dyan? "
dyan wrote on May 2, 2009 1:51 PM:
Lodian wrote on May 2, 2009 12:59 PM:
Lodian wrote on May 2, 2009 12:58 PM:
Lodian wrote on May 2, 2009 12:51 PM:
" I didn't realize we had so many potheads in Lodi. I guess that explains the driving I see out there. "
Snide "
Lodian wrote on May 2, 2009 12:48 PM:
" Len: I have to admire your ability to slide out of any attempt to pin you down on any one of your stated positions. Always an excellent tactic to change the subject. "
Snide. "
dyan wrote on May 2, 2009 12:35 PM:
Lodian wrote on May 2, 2009 11:25 AM:
dyan wrote on May 1, 2009 9:25 AM:
dyan wrote on May 1, 2009 9:15 AM:
Lodian wrote on Apr 30, 2009 10:24 PM:
dyan wrote on Apr 30, 2009 9:17 PM:
Lodian wrote on Apr 30, 2009 3:18 PM:
Leonard wrote on Apr 30, 2009 10:34 AM:
" Leonard, I may live in a trailer park, but at least it's a double wide! :-))
In Texas, we call that an Estate. "
Cogito wrote on Apr 29, 2009 9:42 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 29, 2009 9:40 PM:
dyan wrote on Apr 29, 2009 9:12 PM:
dyan wrote on Apr 29, 2009 9:09 PM:
Leonard wrote on Apr 29, 2009 8:55 PM:
Personally I'd love to see a gun shop in Lodi!
As a well armed liberal and former Lodian, so would I. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 29, 2009 8:54 PM:
" Len: I have to admire your ability to slide out of any attempt to pin you down on any one of your stated positions. Always an excellent tactic to change the subject. "
To what stated position are you referring? "
GaltGuy wrote on Apr 29, 2009 7:32 PM:
Realizing Ralph is a liberal I was attempting to appeal to his sense of right and wrong. Whatever that may be for him. lol
Personally I'd love to see a gun shop in Lodi! "
dyan wrote on Apr 29, 2009 7:27 PM:
Leonard wrote on Apr 29, 2009 7:00 PM:
want a gun shop down the street?
I am trying to imagine why you wouldn't want a gun shop down the street. "
GaltGuy wrote on Apr 29, 2009 5:47 PM:
Porn shops are legal, want those? NAMBLA is legal, want a chapter in your hood? Assualt weapons are legal again, want a gun shop down the street?
You are a bafoon sir. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 29, 2009 2:24 PM:
Nothing you say will convince us otherwise.
:) "
Leonard wrote on Apr 29, 2009 2:21 PM:
Just because you believe that all liberals fit a single monolithic mold doesn't mean that they do. "
dyan wrote on Apr 29, 2009 2:14 PM:
Janice M. Bonser wrote on Apr 29, 2009 11:55 AM:
The weed that never leaves your yard and no money is exchanged should never be called commerce at all. They call it, "Interstate Commerce" because they lie. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 29, 2009 10:48 AM:
The States Rights crushing fascist oppressor (to borrow rhetoric from the teabaggers) in this case was the Bush Administration's Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez.
Although the majority of the Court sided with the Bush Administration in this case a strong 4 member minority characterized the Bush Administration's case as an "absurd perversion" of the Constitution. "
dyan wrote on Apr 29, 2009 9:41 AM:
The same one the feds have used to steal states rights for many years.
I'm no lawyer, but any law student will tell you the same thing. "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Apr 29, 2009 9:03 AM:
Of course, that makes me even more puzzled at the fact that you are supporting a policy that, by your own admission, is unconstitutional. "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Apr 29, 2009 9:02 AM:
Still, I will ask it again. Exactly what part of the Constitution gives the Federal Government the right to regulate a plant that never leaves my back yard?
Can you tell me that? "
Cogito wrote on Apr 29, 2009 8:37 AM:
dyan wrote on Apr 29, 2009 8:35 AM:
Ivan Dixon wrote on Apr 29, 2009 5:06 AM:
Its not interstate commerce, so what is it?
Mr Cogito? Ms. Dyan?
Anyone???? "
Cogito wrote on Apr 28, 2009 11:53 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 28, 2009 11:40 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 28, 2009 11:38 PM:
Lee wrote on Apr 28, 2009 10:56 PM:
" I'm sure you do. "
Weren't you just telling people that they don't know about addiction? Now you're sure they do know about it? What exactly are ya trying to say? Are you confused? "
Janice M. Bonser wrote on Apr 28, 2009 5:12 PM:
MR. ANSLINGER: Certainly under the act, if the farmer agreed to that, they would both be guilty of conspiracy to violate the act. "
dyan wrote on Apr 28, 2009 4:29 PM:
Lodian wrote on Apr 28, 2009 4:09 PM:
Yes, we know. "
dyan wrote on Apr 28, 2009 3:02 PM:
dyan wrote on Apr 28, 2009 2:58 PM:
Janice M. Bonser wrote on Apr 28, 2009 2:51 PM:
Leonard wrote on Apr 28, 2009 1:19 PM:
The drug abuse among teens is staggering - far more than realized in the general public.
A tragic consequence of a society that puts individuals like Rush Limbaugh forward as role models. "
dyan wrote on Apr 28, 2009 1:18 PM:
dyan wrote on Apr 28, 2009 1:14 PM:
Lodian wrote on Apr 28, 2009 12:15 PM:
Lodian wrote on Apr 28, 2009 12:12 PM:
" Why in the world are we so concerned about what individuals take into their bodies."
Well, anayud, there is a level at which drunks and druggies do create a concern for the rest of us. They cost us money and can cost us our lives or the lives of our loved ones. "
Lodian wrote on Apr 28, 2009 12:10 PM:
" Obviously Len, you've never worked in a rehab clinic. "
How long have you been there in rehab, dyan? "
Leonard wrote on Apr 28, 2009 11:37 AM:
Do you think the possession of tobacco should be criminalized? "
Rhodie v2.0 wrote on Apr 28, 2009 11:08 AM:
Hey while you're in there, I got half a liver I probably won't need. I'll get the pool paid for one transplant at a time. i think I'll keep both lungs though, a little to active to lose half my capacity. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 28, 2009 10:35 AM:
" Are all you people avoiding my ethical query of "should a rich person be able to buy a kidney from a poor person if they agree on the price?"
Perhaps if you could explain the relevancy? "
Cogito wrote on Apr 28, 2009 9:10 AM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 28, 2009 9:06 AM:
dyan wrote on Apr 28, 2009 8:47 AM:
Leonard wrote on Apr 28, 2009 8:43 AM:
The fact remains - it IS illegal and it should stay that way.
Why? "
dyan wrote on Apr 28, 2009 8:26 AM:
lodisafeway wrote on Apr 28, 2009 8:18 AM:
As I began my own treatment with Cisplatin, the nausea and days of non-stop vomiting were quelled by this one "magical" medication. I didn't have to smoke it either. For the balance of the seven weeks on chemo I never got sick again and I wasn't "high" either. There are alternatives to getting stoned; but I suspect that in spite of all the arguments toward completely legalizing this drug, it is this effect that is at the very heart of the movement. Escaping from reality doesn't solve anything.
I agree with Cogito on this one; in all my 50+ years I've never once heard of the "reasons" the author puts forth in his letter as to why marijuana should remain illegal. The fact remains - it IS illegal and it should stay that way. "
dyan wrote on Apr 28, 2009 8:17 AM:
WCPatty wrote on Apr 28, 2009 5:57 AM:
Newsflash for you: people are already abusing pot illegally - as you know from personal experience. My point is there are people with painful debilitating conditions who could benefit from LEGAL use of it. "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Apr 28, 2009 5:09 AM:
If I grow a cannabis plant in my back yard, harvest the smokeable parts, smoke them myself, and compost the rest, where in the Constitution does the Federal Government obtain the authority to arrest me? "
anayud wrote on Apr 27, 2009 11:39 PM:
dyan wrote on Apr 27, 2009 8:19 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 27, 2009 8:14 PM:
Ivan Dixon wrote on Apr 27, 2009 8:00 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 27, 2009 7:29 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 27, 2009 7:26 PM:
Leonard wrote on Apr 27, 2009 7:10 PM:
What would you suggest that Americans as a people should do to improve things? "
Lodian wrote on Apr 27, 2009 5:48 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 27, 2009 5:38 PM:
WCPatty wrote on Apr 27, 2009 4:52 PM:
WCPatty wrote on Apr 27, 2009 4:48 PM:
A gateway drug? Better ban cigarettes and beer!
I know of a former paratrooper in NY with severe MS who has to travel to Vermont to get his LEGAL marijuana. He is NOT using it as an "excuse" to get high, but rather to control the tremors and nausea after all the other meds failed. "
Cogito wrote on Apr 27, 2009 3:11 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 27, 2009 3:08 PM:
mandi1 wrote on Apr 27, 2009 2:16 PM:
OPEN YOUR MINDS. You republican bastards. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 27, 2009 2:05 PM:
" Leonard, millions and millions of people who drink beer have never tried hard drugs
And millions more of them let alcoholism ruin their lives. That said, we have tried making alcohol illegal and the results speak for themselves. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 27, 2009 2:03 PM:
" Leonard, millions and millions of people who drink beer have never tried hard drugs. I was a pot smoker, turned cocaine user, turned meth addict for 20 years.
Interesting.
Do you think a 10 year stint in prison, locked up with murderers, rapists and child molesters, would have made you a better person or society a better place? "
Cogito wrote on Apr 27, 2009 1:14 PM:
Leonard wrote on Apr 27, 2009 12:49 PM:
Every single one of them started with smoking pot as their first illicit drug of choice
Really?
I find it very surprising to hear that these individuals never had a beer before they turned to hard drugs.
Incredible, really..... "
Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 27, 2009 12:35 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 27, 2009 12:31 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 27, 2009 12:19 PM:
Bob Loblaw wrote on Apr 27, 2009 11:45 AM:
Leonard wrote on Apr 27, 2009 10:47 AM:
Does that mean that we should spend trillions of dollars to stamp out Starbucks? "
Leonard wrote on Apr 27, 2009 10:40 AM:
The same thing could be said about gum. How many heroin addicts do you think there are that have never chewed a stick of gum? "
Cogito wrote on Apr 27, 2009 10:36 AM:
Rhodie v2.0 wrote on Apr 27, 2009 10:08 AM:
You can get some sort of high off most perscription meds and even a lot of cough meds. If you want to keep the ban on pot because people get high off it then, by extension of your argument, you should be against most medications. Abuse of any medication is always wrong and can lead to bad things, why is marijuana singled out of the large number of things that people get high on AND still get from the dr.'s? Becasue of an effective campaign 50yrs ago.
I think an independent lab should do testing and establish just what the benifits, if any, there are to marijuana and then we go from there. Obviously it is not as harmful as most think but i also know it doesn't treat everything it is claimed to treat. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 27, 2009 9:54 AM:
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