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Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:41 AM PDT

And yet another citizen weighs in on the Obama vs. Limbaugh debacle.

Sheri Alberg's recent letter represents all too well just how far off the point the left will go to push their agenda. While I'm certain this last letter of mine on the subject won't end the controversy as far as I'm concerned, there's always "hope."

Let's be crystal clear about this. Neither Rush Limbaugh nor I want the United States to fail; just the opposite. It is President Obama's policies that we don't want to succeed for the sake of our country. Too many folks truly believe that by rallying behind anyone doing the wrong thing (simply for the sake of doing "something"), good things will occur. That might make people feel good, but it won't solve our problems. As I've stated ad nauseam, for me (or anyone else) to now support a president attempting to push through precisely the things that compelled me to campaign against him during the election would be the height of hypocrisy. It simply makes no sense. To the contrary, if Obama succeeds with his so-called economic recovery plan, we might not have much of a country left.

Ms. Alberg, your imploring me to support our great nation in its time of need hasn't fallen on deaf ears. But if you're suggesting that I ignore what I believe to be harmful acts by a misguided president simply to make you or anyone else feel good about yourselves, then I don't know where you've been hiding during the past eight years. Sure, right now we're in economic crisis; but during George W. Bush's administration, we were at war — where was the support of "each of us" during that time of need? Where was your outrage when Democrat leaders declared our mission in Iraq lost?

Rest assured, when (if) President Obama begins to put the United States ahead of his far-left socialist agenda, I'll be happy to write a letter providing the kudos that you and others imprudently believe he deserves now. Until then, I will continue to voice my opinion, as is my right for as long as I have it.

Jerome Kinderman
Lodi

Reader Feedback

Lodian wrote on Apr 29, 2009 12:09 PM:

" WCPatty wrote on Apr 29, 2009 8:19 AM:

" I don't know how this evolved to birth control..."

WCPatty: I don't know either (was it Brian again?).

Good post, WCPatty. "

WCPatty wrote on Apr 29, 2009 8:19 AM:

" I don't know how this evolved to birth control, but I'd like to comment. According to the Mayo Clinic as well as packet info on Ortho Novum, birth control pills are designed to prevent ovulation. No ovulation = no egg = no fertilization = no pregnancy = no abortion. I am not saying they are 100% effective, but if the woman IS still ovulating while on the pill, she is either taking an ineffective dose or hormone combo for her body. Many newer "low dose" pills are used to combat side effects, so women should talk to their doctors if this is a concern. "

Leonard wrote on Apr 27, 2009 11:21 AM:

" Chuckle... its good to know that, as long as the LNS continues to publish 8 Jerome Kinderman letters a week, the indefensible will always have a defender. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 7:09 PM:

" Brian wrote "And even if he is wrong, who the hell are you to tell him he can't speculate?"

I can follow Jerry wherever I like to share the truth. Who are you to tell me that I can't tell the truth on these blogs. Truth, a foreign thing to you, Brian, eh? LOL! "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 7:07 PM:

" Brian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 6:19 PM:

" Lodian, You, the complete lunatic, don't have any room to talk. "

That may be true, but at least I'm a fun happy lunatic and not a mean angry lunatic like you. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 7:03 PM:

" Brian wrote "Where is your evidence that Jerry does not know more than you about this fire."

Jerry is asking others to ask their children about it. That's how I know. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 26, 2009 7:01 PM:

" Brian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 6:52 PM:
" Acampo_Mom,

Do you know me from when I lived in Lodi? Just curious. "

LOL...I don't think so. My weather comment was strictly to lighten the mood.

I think a lot of people have an inside "nice weather we're having" joke, and I'm pretty sure that mine wasn't with you...unless your real name is Steve and you are currently in Iraq.

Now...EVERYONE BREATHE....
Ahhhhh isn't that better? "

Brian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 6:52 PM:

" Acampo_Mom,

Do you know me from when I lived in Lodi? Just curious. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 26, 2009 6:33 PM:

" Ahem...soooo....

Nice weather we've been having, eh? "

Brian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 6:19 PM:

" Lodian, You, the complete lunatic, don't have any room to talk. "

Brian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 6:11 PM:

" Lodian, you can follow up all you want.
Yet you say you are going to follow Jerry to other bloggs and attempt to discredit him because the seelodi.com
article he read spoke of a cover-up as speculation? Would you like it if Jerry were to follow you to other bloggs and try to discredit you? Actually, no one is questioning the emergency response.
Where is your evidence that Jerry does not know more than you about this fire.
And even if he is wrong, who the hell are you to tell him he can't speculate? "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 6:06 PM:

" Brian wrote "Oh, I can be just as or more ruthless than you if you push me too far."

I said, bring it on in response. Please try to follow along. Can't you remember what you've said, Brian? "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 6:04 PM:

" Brian: I'm sure I'm not the only one who has thought you have a drinking problem given your incoherent posts, especially when you go off on your rambling foul mouthed racist rants. You do sound like a complete lunatic, Brian/onelastthing. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 6:02 PM:

" Brian wrote "On the very rare occasion that he might digress it is only because he has no choice."

You don't like not having a choice, but you want to take away the choice of others. Like I said, hypocrite. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 5:38 PM:

" Brian: Yes, when people (Jerry or Brian) go on unrelated blogs to trash the people of a good school that did a superb job last Wednesday with their top notch response to an emergency I will definitely follow up. You bet your arse, Brian. "

Brian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 5:00 PM:

" http://seelodi.groupee.net/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6851076412/m/120104321

We may never know what could have happened "but for" Mssrs. Funge and Morgan's heroic acts and the commendable response time of the Lodi Fire Department. However, some very serious questions need to be asked and answered, such as: When is it appropriate for anyone on a public school campus to tell the students, teachers and staff to disregard a fire alarm? Is there a set Lodi Unified School District protocol regarding fire alarms and other emergencies? Were the District's fire alarm protocols followed by the Principal, Ms. Nilmeyer? If not, why not? Beyond regulations, protocols and laws, what did the top administrators know about the all these matters and when did they know it? If the top administrators were knowledgeable of these matters, why haven't they reported them to the public? Is there a cover-up?

-And Lodian knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was no cover-up. Then she makes it a mission to follow Jerry on the bloggs to discredit everything he says just to be spiteful. "

Brian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 4:49 PM:

" Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 AM:

" Lodisafeway: You have sunk to a new low. Didn't you just write a letter to the editor about being civil and not attacking bloggers? You said it concerns you that bloggers might shy away from this forum for fear they will become targets of personal attacks. Well, Lodisafeway, you just did exactly that to Lee. You post rude personal comments to others and then have the gall to go off on some diatribe about how bloggers should not do such a thing. Can you say HYPOCRITE, Jerome Kinderman?

No, he's not, Lodian. On the very rare occasion that he might digress it is only because he has no choice. There comes a point where even the most civil
have to sling mud. As for you my dear, You have quite a stockpile of pies in your armory ready for action. "

Brian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 4:26 PM:

" Bring what on?

I don't have any proof that this rumor exists nor do you have any proof that I am an alcholic.

But I'm sure I'm not the only one who has thought you have a drug problem given your incoherent posts. "

Brian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 4:20 PM:

" Lodian wrote:
Yes, if you want to go to every blog and blast these people I will follow you to each and every blog to discredit your attacks. "

-Yes Lodian, we are all aware how you try to discredit people even when YOU don't even know what you are talking about. Isn't it all about those people that refuse to betray their thinking to be
your friend that sticks in your craw? "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 4:19 PM:

" Bring it on! LOL! "

Brian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 4:15 PM:

" Lodian wrote:
Finally, you speak of something you know a lot about, drinking! Bravo!

-This is why I have no respect for Lodian. She makes up things about me and many others on a daily basis.

I have a lot friends in Lodi that know I am nothing of the sort.

Perhaps Lodian can explain to us why there is this rumor going around in Lodi that she is a closet heroin addict?
How does she hide those tracks?

The rumor has to start somewhere Lodian.
Oh, I can be just as or more ruthless than you if you push me too far. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM:

" Jerry: Crawl back under your rock now. No one respects your opinions. You just took care of that with your attack on Larson School. You had me leaning in with an ear, on past blogs, when talking about district stuff, but not anymore. I no longer believe you after this attack on innocent victims of a fire started at their school. You should actually be telling everyone you know that they should move into the Larson district so as to be able to have their children attend this great school. Larson ROCKS!

Thank you to the principal, teachers and children that did everything right the day of the fire. Thank you for the perfect response in making sure the children were all safe and sound, and even calm and playing outside waiting for their moms, dads and grandparents that day. What superb organization! THANK YOU! "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM:

" Jerry wrote on Apr 26, 2009 7:48 AM:

" Sorry to get off task but this is important. It appears that the District is in the middle of a cover-up on the Larson fire last week."

A cover up by whom, Jerry? I see you are still attacking innocent victims of the Larson fire. Haven't these children and teachers gone through enough without you attacking them for making sure your kids were safe and sound? Shame on you, Jerry. You are barking up the wrong tree by belittling these people for having a perfect response in an emergency. Yes, if you want to go to every blog and blast these people I will follow you to each and every blog to discredit your attacks. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 12:28 PM:

" Brian wrote "It's like the bars. They'll keep on serving you drinks as long as you pay."

Finally, you speak of something you know a lot about, drinking! Bravo! "

Brian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 10:53 AM:

" And Brian,
If they are depending on abortions (that they don't perform) to profit somehow, why would they so strongly advocate contraception?


-They would look pretty stupid to not advocate contraception.

It's like the bars. They'll keep on serving you drinks as long as you pay.
Of course they might cut you off. But they have no right to tell you that you can't go to another bar. "

Rhodie v2.0 wrote on Apr 26, 2009 9:59 AM:

" sam wrote on Apr 25, 2009 8:05 PM:
" That is what is crazy. I was raised a Catholic and I no longer am one.
They preach sex only for pro creation... yet also teach the rhythm method. Crazy."

Sam (and others) you might find this article interesting. It is in line with what I was taught growing up, that marital sex was about unity BEFORE it was about procreation. Not that sex HAS to be for procreation only, but if a married couple has sex then they should be open to that sex resulting in a child. Under the "guidance for special groups" section it even addresses birth control slightly.

It is more of a summary of an American Bishops document from 1990 I haven't read but has some details of what is covered in the article. But is seems to be in-line with what I have consistantly heard.

Pre-vatican II teachings were much more strict and there may have been preists and parents who held to the more traditional teachings, but since this article's points are what have been guidelines since the 60's.

http://www.americancatholic.org/newsletters/cu/ac0892.asp "

Jerry wrote on Apr 26, 2009 7:48 AM:

" Sorry to get off task but this is important. It appears that the District is in the middle of a cover-up on the Larson fire last week.

A friend and teacher at Larson called me last night after reading a article on seelodi.com and told me that the principal ordered the students to remain in their seats "after" the fire alarm went off. Trouble is, her school was in the process of burning down.

Check out the Larson fire story and blogs before they pull it completely. It looks like SMOKEGATE to me. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 12:51 AM:

" sam wrote on Apr 25, 2009 7:46 PM:

" No man nor any outsider has the right to dictate to you what you should do.

I can tell you my religious or moral beliefs, but I have no right to force you to act according to my beliefs.

I belief you have the right to act according to YOUR religious and moral beliefs.

Isn't that what this country is about? Individual rights to choose. "


YES! "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 12:49 AM:

" Lodisafeway: I suggest you take your own advice (that may be very hard for you) and go ahead and engage in spirited hard-hitting debate all you like, but also allow others to do the same. We are not here just to be your punching bag and to take all your garbage without a spirited hard-hitting response, whether you like it or not. And when you get that spirited hard-hitting response (ya know, just like the responses you dish out) perhaps you can look to yourself as the reason you got that verbal "spirited" beating and not simply run to the LNS to whine again about how bloggers here are being big meanies. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 AM:

" Here's a clip from Lodisafeway's letter.


-------
Lodisafeway wrote..."Rather than keep the discourse within the constraints of the subjects at hand, a few of these miscreants have waged an all-out assault on me personally....they kept at it to the point that any time I had the audacity to post a comment or write a letter, gone was any semblance of civil discourse....What concerns me is that while the forum should be permitted to be spirited and hard-hitting, there may be others who might shy away from joining in because of the possibility that they themselves could become targets,and that is unfair."
-------


So you see, Jerome, YOU are the guilty party. YOU are pushing away civil discourse. YOU blast others when they engage in "spirited and hard-hitting" debate, but turn around and do the exact same thing to others. Is it only considered civil discourse when YOU are doing the attacking,Jerome? When you get as good as you give you whine and write a pathetic letter to the editor about how the bloggers are so mean to you. You are the biggest hypocrite on these blogs...well besides the old troll(who shall remain nameless). "

Lodian wrote on Apr 26, 2009 12:14 AM:

" Lodisafeway: You have sunk to a new low. Didn't you just write a letter to the editor about being civil and not attacking bloggers? You said it concerns you that bloggers might shy away from this forum for fear they will become targets of personal attacks. Well, Lodisafeway, you just did exactly that to Lee. You post rude personal comments to others and then have the gall to go off on some diatribe about how bloggers should not do such a thing. Can you say HYPOCRITE, Jerome Kinderman?

Continued... "

Lodian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 11:50 PM:

" Acampo_Mom wrote "I hope that my girls never, EVER get themselves in a situation that they have to make that decision."

Yes, and let's hope that all women/girls have a choice if they become pregnant. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 25, 2009 10:29 PM:

" lodisafeway...
My husband is one of those men that would have raised our kids on his own if he had to. Gladly. I said they are few and far between not that they didn't exist at all. But I know from experience (my own father) and from acquaintances, that just because a man donates his seed, doesn't make him a "father", and just because his name is on the birth certificate doesn't make him a "father".

I don't think that ONLY a woman can raise a child, but in many cases, that is what happens, for better or worse.

And...we haven't even discussed the teen parents. How many 16 or 17 year old boys are going to man up, do the right thing and be "responsible"?

It's a scary thing for a young woman/girl to find out she's pregnant, to face her parents, her peers, to try to decide to have the baby...or not. I imagine it might feel like the end of the world.

I hope that my girls never, EVER get themselves in a situation that they have to make that decision. "

lodisafeway wrote on Apr 25, 2009 9:41 PM:

" Acampo_Mom, I've known of quite a few full-time single dads. The idea that only women can raise kids well is absurd. Just because you haven't met one doesn't mean they don't exist.

My comment regarding forcing men to be fathers is accurate. As it relates to abortion, the father of the child has no "choice," yet is reliant upon a woman's "right" to choose for him. Having his name placed on a birth certificate when perhaps he would have rather opted for abortion proves this. But someone else wrote here that no man or outsider should dictate what a woman should do; by eliminating a father's input into whether or not the baby should be born by giving her sole authority is doing precisely that.

Don't misunderstand; I think any man who impregnates a woman should be responsible. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in the concept of this so-called "right to choose." It's only a right if it belongs to the woman. No man should even be allowed to offer an opinion, to hear many of the militant pro-abortion crowd tell it. But they are required to pay up (as they should). "

lodisafeway wrote on Apr 25, 2009 9:27 PM:

" Wow Lee, that really is pathetic. But you're entitled to your opinion, regardless of whether or not it makes any sense. While abortion is a difficult subject to "debate," you've proved that you are unable to handle differing opinions. You might want to consider hopping over to "The Dish" or "A Mom in Lodi" blogs; they're a bit tamer than what you've been exposing yourself to here. Since I've only "seen" you here recently, I assume that you're new to this.

Sure, bloggers here may hate me; but not because I'm hateful, mean-spirited or anything of the sort; it's because they simply can't compete. So, you're in good company. Once you bone up on the concept of spirited debate and desire to try again, I'll be happy to discuss anything with you. I only ask that you keep it honest; something that I'm afraid you're not quite ready to sample.

But thanks for playing anyway. I'm sure Johnny has some nice parting gifts for you on the way out. (By the way, that's "sarcasm," another debate technique considered perfectly acceptable.) "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 25, 2009 8:35 PM:

" sam...I know you didn't intend to...but you did just the same.
:) "

sam wrote on Apr 25, 2009 8:24 PM:

" Acampo_Mom, I have no intention of putting you in your place.

My point is your place IS your place. I have no right to tell you where your place is. Peace out. "

sam wrote on Apr 25, 2009 8:05 PM:

" That is what is crazy. I was raised a Catholic and I no longer am one.

They preach sex only for pro creation... yet also teach the rhythm method. Crazy. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 25, 2009 8:05 PM:

" LOL leave it to sam to put me in my place...
I got served! "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 25, 2009 8:03 PM:

" Oh.
LOL
Ok...well...uh...GOOD! "

sam wrote on Apr 25, 2009 8:02 PM:

" No no no... the Catholic Church preaches abstinence AND the rhythm method. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 25, 2009 8:01 PM:

" sam wrote on Apr 25, 2009 7:46 PM:
"Isn't that what this country is about? Individual rights to choose."

Yep! Can't think of anywhere else in the world I'd rather be. Except Hawaii. Wait, that's still this country... "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM:

" ok...so in THEORY thats what it's supposed to do.

But according to the Catholic church isn't it also a sin to practice abstinence or the rhythm method?

Watch your step folks! It's a slippery slope! "

sam wrote on Apr 25, 2009 7:46 PM:

" No man nor any outsider has the right to dictate to you what you should do.

I can tell you my religious or moral beliefs, but I have no right to force you to act according to my beliefs.

I belief you have the right to act according to YOUR religious and moral beliefs.

Isn't that what this country is about? Individual rights to choose. "

sam wrote on Apr 25, 2009 7:39 PM:

" Acampo_Mom, do some research. I love google.

IUDs are still used and the pill does not always prevent fertilization. It many times creates an environment where the fertilized egg cannot survive, thus causing an abortion. That is why the Catholic Church says using either is a sin.

It is a complicated issue. IMHO it should be reviewed by a committed couple.. or by the woman in a non committed relationship.

An outsider should have no say at all. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 25, 2009 7:39 PM:

" lodisafeway said: "...The argument is an old one, that's for sure; but where is the righteousness in forcing a man to be a father when he doesn't want to be one or worse to take the life of his progeny when he would rather raise the child, even if it’s on his own?"

I don't know if there are any men you can "force" to be a father. Sure you can get the state involved to "force" them to pay child support (and still some find a way out of it), but how do you make him stand up and raise his children? And how often does a man say..."No, No! Don't have an abortion! Have the baby and I'll raise it myself!" I don't know any single full time dads...NOT ONE. They are far and few between.

BUT...in and of itself this doesn't make abortion right. You mentioned many facets lodisafeway...this is just one of many. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 25, 2009 7:25 PM:

" sam...is the IUD even available anymore? I thought they quit marketing a few years ago.

And I was told (and have read)...the birth control pill suppresses ovulation completely, so fertilization never happens along with some of the other hormone based contraceptives.

Prevention...prevention...
prevention...prevention... "

Lee wrote on Apr 25, 2009 7:25 PM:

" sam wrote on Apr 25, 2009 6:15 PM:

" Lee, remember choosing IUD's and the pill is also choosing abortion. Google the info.

I HATE abortion. That is my personal opinion. However I believe every female (woman or young girl) has the right to choose. Who am I to make their choice? "


Sam: You've made intelligent comments and I agree with you 100%. "

Lee wrote on Apr 25, 2009 7:22 PM:

" Well, I tried. Lodisafeway, you are one reason I haven't been writing comments very often on these blogs. Your kind of insulting tone, verbal insults included, are below what I desire in an intelligent conversation or debate. Bloggers like you are what keep civil debate off these blogs. I don't know how most here stomach your rude insults everyday just because they disagree with you a little. I tried to converse with you and discuss this issue, with patience, but got personally insulted by you again. What's the deal with you? Gee, what a guy. Well, I guess it's either your way or just shut up, right old boy? Later. "

lodisafeway wrote on Apr 25, 2009 7:02 PM:

" Lee - you seem so absolute in your notion that it is only the woman's right to choose. I find that interesting because it still takes something from a male to make it all happen. Now, unless a woman decides to get an abortion after visiting a fertility clinic ( and setting aside for the moment cases of rape and incest), shouldn't the other half of the duo at least be considered in making this "choice?"

The argument is an old one, that's for sure; but where is the righteousness in forcing a man to be a father when he doesn't want to be one or worse to take the life of his progeny when he would rather raise the child, even if it’s on his own? Women are the only ones with that choice? That is indeed a lot of power. Clearly, doing away with over-the-counter abortions would be better for the human race, in my opinion. It doesn't say much for any society that so cavalierly discards human life for the sake of convenience.

But I suppose demoting the sanctity of human life to less than a fish puts everything in its rightful place. "

sam wrote on Apr 25, 2009 6:15 PM:

" Lee, remember choosing IUD's and the pill is also choosing abortion. Google the info.

I HATE abortion. That is my personal opinion. However I believe every female (woman or young girl) has the right to choose. Who am I to make their choice? "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 25, 2009 5:17 PM:

" Lodisafeway...well I guess all I can say to that is...shame on them. That is wrong on so many different levels. But the experience that I've had at Planned Parenthood (yes, as a young woman I depended on PP for my well woman check-ups and contraception, because I couldn't afford insurance)was very positive. And the clinic that I went to didn't perform abortions. They most certainly DID push birth control on anyone that walked in the door, and I for one am ALL FOR THAT.

And Brian,
If they are depending on abortions (that they don't perform) to profit somehow, why would they so strongly advocate contraception?

I sure wish there were classes for "girls only" in High School or SOMEWHERE that taught them "How not to get brainwashed into having sex and taken advantage of by a man..." or otherwise known as "How to avoid unplanned pregnancies and unnecessary abortions". "

lodisafeway wrote on Apr 25, 2009 5:05 PM:

" Well gee, Lee - what can I say? I explained what I wrote based upon your question. Of course, however you choose to take my answer is up to you. I didn't qualify my statement except to differentiate what I believe people of faith will ultimately face based upon their decision to terminate a pregnancy. Those who believe we're in for nothing but darkness when we depart this planet have nothing to worry about, do they?

As the law stands now, abortion is legal. Would I rather Roe v. Wade be overturned? You bet I would. But in a society that places higher value on a sand tortoise than a human being, I don't see that happening anytime soon.

The debate has many facets, Lee. You've got to try and not think so one-dimensionally. "

Lee wrote on Apr 25, 2009 5:01 PM:

" I am NOT pro abortion, but I am in support of a woman's right to choose and make her own decision. Her decision may not be what I would choose, or like, for anyone in my family, but it's still her choice in the end. "

Lee wrote on Apr 25, 2009 4:58 PM:

" Lodisafeway: I have not seen anyone here argue that they are in support of a woman choosing abortion as a means of birth control. Have you? The debate here seems to have become about the right to choose or not. Brian's stand seems to be, if I can decipher from all the ranting he's done here, that abortion should not be one of the choices a woman can make, period. I disagree with that view. The choice should always be there, not encouraging abortion as first choice of course, but the choice should be available. "

Lee wrote on Apr 25, 2009 4:51 PM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Apr 25, 2009 4:13 PM: " Lee - I didn't say that. Unfortunately, Roe v. Wade is the law of the land; and not all people believe in God. I happen to believe that He exists and is ultimately in charge. "

Lodisafeway: Yes you did and I quoted you. Below is the post of yours where I found your comment.

lodisafeway wrote on Apr 25, 2009 1:37 PM: " I don't believe God is going to settle for "choice" as an excuse for killing any one of His precious children. " "

lodisafeway wrote on Apr 25, 2009 4:49 PM:

" Acampo_Mom - while you might be correct that Planned Parenthood (as a company) offers abortion as a last resort, there have been far too many investigations into individual clinics that prove otherwise, at least as far as their employees are concerned. At the very least, PP hasn't been very responsible in their training of those who work for them and/or ensuring that they hold to the principles on which you believe the company is based.

Most recently an 18-year-old college student posed as a "pregnant" 14-year-old girl desiring an abortion because of being impregnated by her 31-year-old "boyfriend." The PP employee assured the girl that her boyfriend was safe and that neither the police nor her parents would be notified if she desired to terminate the pregnancy in their clinic.

This is what gives these abortion clinics a bad name. "

lodisafeway wrote on Apr 25, 2009 4:15 PM:

" But what I still stand behind, Lee is my statement that "Pro Choice" is synonymous with "Pro Abortion." "

lodisafeway wrote on Apr 25, 2009 4:13 PM:

" Lee - I didn't say that. Unfortunately, Roe v. Wade is the law of the land; and not all people believe in God. I happen to believe that He exists and is ultimately in charge.

For those of us who "do" believe in God, we'll have to deal with whatever the ramifications we'll face regarding our behavior here. I am not a woman, so I wouldn't even begin to pretend to understand what it might be like to carry a child that grows inside as a result of incest or rape. Still, there may be women of faith (and their husbands as well) who might possess the character and strength to carry to term a child conceived under such circumstances - very difficult indeed.

My problem is about those who use abortion as a means of birth control. I believe that a human being is created at the moment of conception. To simply destroy him/her because of irresponsible behavior or laziness will not permit them to stand before God one day expecting "Well done, my good and faithful servant" which is what many of us ultimately desire from Him. "

Lee wrote on Apr 25, 2009 3:10 PM:

" Lodisafeway said, "I don't believe God is going to settle for "choice" as an excuse for killing any one of His precious children."

Lodisafeway: Are you telling us that we should not allow abortions of any kind in this country, for any reason?

Let women, along with her loved ones and doctor, decide if an abortion is the choice she wants to make. I don't believe the government should be telling women what to do when pregnant. "

lodisafeway wrote on Apr 25, 2009 1:37 PM:

" Anyone who actually believes that "Pro Choice" doesn't mean "Pro Abortion" is either daft or just plain disingenuous. I think "Pro Death" is a more appropriate moniker to counter the "Pro Life" stance that many take without apology or qualification. At least there isn't any question as to where those who believe in the sanctity of human life reside on this issue. "Pro Choice" is simply a seemingly innocuous label to mask the true intent of the movement.

We need to call it what it is - the extinguishing of human life before they have an opportunity to pursue their own idea of happiness in what is otherwise a great nation. When we place trees, owls and cute little seals above human beings, then as a nation we're going to have a lot to answer for down the pike. I don't believe God is going to settle for "choice" as an excuse for killing any one of His precious children. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 25, 2009 11:37 AM:

" Brian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 11:04 AM:
" Acampo_Mom,

The choice to have the baby and adopt it out is not entertained nearly as much as it should. "

I agree with this statement, Brian. But don't forget the stigma that has surrounded unplanned pregnancies in young women for decades. Women have been made to feel dirty, shamed, and ruined for having had premarital sex and getting pregnant, the outcome: Fear of getting protected and abortions.


Brian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 11:06 AM:
" There's no money in adoptions. This is why adoption agencies don't get nearly the government subsidies as planned parenthood and abortion clinics. "

No...but there sure is a lot of money in fertility clinics isn't there? Humanities' ego is ever growing! As evidenced by "OctoMom".

And as far as planned parenthood clinics go...they DO advocate contraception and adoption...abortion is the last thing they want any girl to do, and they try to council her extensively before she does. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 11:21 AM:

" Brian: Do you actually have a question for me or are you just going to continue to spew lies and make it up as you go along as to what you think my views are on this topic?

Pro choice has never meant pro abortion.

Careful... Your crazy is showing, Brian. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 11:18 AM:

" Well said, Acampo_Mom. I agree. "

Brian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 11:12 AM:

" http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/223livny.asp?pg=1


Planned Parenthood's Unseemly Empire
The billion-dollar "non-profit."
by Charlotte Allen
10/22/2007, Volume 013, Issue 06

-I rest my case. "

Brian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 11:06 AM:

" There's no money in adoptions. This is why adoption agencies don't get nearly the government subsidies as planned parenthood and abortion clinics. "

Brian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 11:04 AM:

" Acampo_Mom,

The choice to have the baby and adopt it out is not entertained nearly as much as it should. "

Brian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 11:02 AM:

" Acampo_Mom,

The abortion racket is so lucrative. Plain and simple. And unfortunate. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 25, 2009 10:55 AM:

" At my own risk...I'm going to ring in on this little dialogue...

I am pro-choice by principal. Pro-choice means just that. A choice. The initial choice to abstain...or to use protection...
The choice to choose to have and keep the baby...
The choice to have the baby and adopt it out...
The choice to terminate the pregnancy...

In a perfect world girls/women wouldn't even have to make the choice. It would be a hard one to make in a lot of circumstances.

What I would really like to see is more energy spent (by pro-choice groups AND anti-abortion groups) on the education and advocation of CONTRACEPTION. There is no reason these days for a girl/woman to "accidentally" get pregnant. There are too many ways to prevent it. Birth control pills, patches, rings, implants, and the (unnecessarily) controversial "Plan B". Guys need to step up and do the right thing too and use protection.

In the case of rape, the victim should not have to go on for nine months reliving the personal violation to appease any group or someone else's religious or political beliefs.

My two cents... "

Brian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 10:51 AM:

" I'm less inclined to want to come back to Lodi in light of this. Lodian might actaully try to track me down and rap me on the head. "

Brian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 10:06 AM:

" Lodian wrote,
Brian says little 11 year old rape victims should be forced to bare a child by her daddy rapist.

-I shouldn't expect an apology from Lodian. She actually believes I feel this way. I wonder how her husband deals with this type of twisted thinking? Oh, he's probably forced to accept it or she'll rap him over the head with a cast iron skillet. "

Brian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 9:58 AM:

" Lodian, I wonder what type of brain damage you have that would make you think that anyone would want abortions to be performed unchecked in back allies here in America. It is not that anyone wants this to happen. It is the unnecessary abortions that bother many.
Again, there needs to be less government subsidies pumped into abortion clinics and more government subsidies pumped into adoption agencies.
Or is this too much to ask? "

Brian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 9:50 AM:

" Lodian, you should be the one feeling the shame that you won't even entertain the thought that so many babies could have been adopted instead of aborted.
But there's no money in adoptions, huh Lodian?

Instead you provide a scenario of a father molesting his daughter and it results in a pregnancy as if I'm not compassionate in this situation. Oh, but this is just another attempt by you to discredit me to prop yourself up. "

Brian wrote on Apr 25, 2009 9:41 AM:

" Lodian wrote,
Brian says little 11 year old rape victims should be forced to bare a child by her daddy rapist.

-Lodian is often inclined to make these kind of statements that are bold face lies in an attempt to prop herself up.
Oops, I forgot. Liberals don't lie. She just misspoke.

She also wants to advance her agenda that unwanted pregnancies should only end up in abortion. She has no intention of entertaining the thought that many abortions are unnecessary. I'm appalled by her desire to not want to discuss the option of adoption. She shares the philosophies with a group of people that results in the billions of dollars reaped from selling body parts from abortions. To Lodian, business is business. "

dogs4you wrote on Apr 24, 2009 5:58 PM:

" Well said Jeff, and I don`t believe anyone would argue with you when you said, the best way to avoid abortion is to prevent conception. Don`t let the little head do the thinking for the big head. "

Lee wrote on Apr 24, 2009 5:48 PM:

" Great post, Jeff. To take issue with Margaret Sanger is to take issue with contraception. I don't think we'd like to see contraception banned in this country. "

jeff wrote on Apr 24, 2009 3:41 PM:

" Brian, for the record Margaret Sanger, while perhaps a controversial figure, was steadfastly against abortion.

'Sanger notes that her 1916 opposition to abortion was based on the taking of life: "To each group we explained what contraception was; that abortion was the wrong way—no matter how early it was performed it was taking life; that contraception was the better way, the safer way—it took a little time, a little trouble, but was well worth while in the long run, because life had not yet begun."
...She wrote further, "No one can doubt that there are times when an abortion is justifiable but they will become unnecessary when care is taken to prevent conception. This is the only cure for abortions."' "

dogs4you wrote on Apr 24, 2009 2:30 PM:

" If Obama doesn`t live up to his own expectations and the country ends up in shambles, remember there is always hope, its called 2012. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 1:22 PM:

" dogs4you: Slop and BS? Yes, I agree. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 1:22 PM:

" ...Brian exits stage left in shame. "

dogs4you wrote on Apr 24, 2009 1:21 PM:

" After reading all of these posts, it would have been a good thing if some of the posters mothers took the After Morning Pill, what a bunch of slop and BS. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 1:17 PM:

" Okay, I'll play it your way, Brian...

Brian says little 11 year old rape victims should be forced to bare a child by her daddy rapist.

If your little darling daughter was raped would you force her to have the baby, Brian? Give a straight answer for once Dockter.

Are you having fun now, Brian? You're sick. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 1:13 PM:

" Brian: Do you hear voices too?

cuckoo cuckoo "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 1:11 PM:

" Brian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 12:02 PM:

" For you to suggest that I would want abortions to be performed in back allies
without goverment oversight..."

Lie...I never said that. Geez, Brian... the lies keep coming from you, don't they? Are you on something? Really? You're kinda going off your rocker here Dockter. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 1:01 PM:

" Brian wrote "You either don't care how many people couples are waiting to adopt a child or you have a vested interest in the abortion racket.So tell us Lodian, how many kickbacks do you get from the abortion racketeers because you believe along with them the easy way out is the only way?"

Okay, Brian, focus. You're rambling. Nothing of what you are writing has anything to do with me or my opinions, so who are you talking to exactly? It certainly can't be me. "Kickbacks"? "Abortion racketeers"? What the heck?

If you'd like to address me in a debate then focus on what I have actually said. Otherwise, again, you're just rambling. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 12:52 PM:

" Brian wrote "And your incompetence is annoying me."

I have managed just fine in cutting you down to size. Wasn't difficult. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 12:51 PM:

" Brian: So, now you are against contraception? "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 12:49 PM:

" Brian wrote "And since you are an advocate of population control in the manner of Margaret Sanger's agenda I find your presence here grotesque."

Another lie. Never said it. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 12:48 PM:

" Brian wrote "I never said I am against abortion."

That's a lie. "

Brian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 12:02 PM:

" For you to suggest that I would want abortions to be performed in back allies
without goverment oversight, since we have this culture of death and population control that has been brought on by liberals because they prefer the easy way out, is despicable and irresponsible. "

Brian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 11:57 AM:

" Lodian wrote,
What I said is that you are twisted because you are blaming the government for an individuals choice.

Hmmm, I never said that. Suppose you can explain to us why you feel abortion
should be more of a choice than adoption. I never said I am against abortion. And since you are an advocate of population control in the manner of Margaret Sanger's agenda I find your presence here grotesque. And your incompetence is annoying me. Again, your advocacy for abortion is short-sighted. You either don't care how many people couples are waiting to adopt a child or you have a vested interest in the abortion racket.So tell us Lodian, how many kickbacks do you get from the abortion racketeers because you believe along with them the easy way out is the only way? My wife and I's second child was an unexpected pregenancy. She is so dear to us. Had not been married we would have had the baby, even though she was a financial hardship. Now, 89f all of you kooks would just consider aboption over abortion more often then we wouldn't be having this conversation. "

Bob Loblaw wrote on Apr 24, 2009 11:54 AM:

" If you prefer the facts on Margaret Sanger, just Google her. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 11:39 AM:

" ...your stupidity is annoying. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 11:37 AM:

" Brian wrote "Your sorry a$$ excuse for abortion makes me sick. Perhaps you should do some research on why there are so many people on the waiting list for extended periods of time to adopt
before you make a blanket statement that unexpected pregnancies have to end up in abortions because there are no other options."

-------------------

Knock, knock...hello...anyone home in there, Brian? I never said anything of the sort. Here you go again making things up as you go along. You plagiarize up a storm from right wingnut internet sites, but when a bloggers comment is right in front of your face you can't even read it and comprehend it, let alone respond with any kind of intelligence! This is so pathetic. This tells me you are either a complete idiot or the biggest twisted liar in Phoenix. Probably both! You can't even make your point or debate this issue without making up the oppositions stand on this issue. You make up comments I've never stated, ever. Give it up, Brian. You're a lame duck around here. No one believes a word you say, as Brian or your other personality, onelastthing. You just look pathetic...again...and again...and again. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 11:16 AM:

" Brian wrote "I'm sure you on left even slipped in the N word. The N word is not just a derogatory remark describing blacks."

The scary thing is that I think Brian really believes that garbage. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 11:11 AM:

" Brian: I know it's a challenge for you to converse on a comprehensive and intellectual level, but try to listen carefully and really try to comprehend.

What I said is that you are twisted because you are blaming the government for an individuals choice. You want the government making any and all choices in a woman's womb, but bar the door to government involvement anywhere else in life (so you say, but we all know your government assistance story). You are a hypocrite, Brian. "

Brian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 11:02 AM:

" Lodian, You are also not aware that Margaret Sanger was a racist and she
was a proponet of putting abortion clinics in poor and predominantly black
neighborhoods. She also got grants from Hitler and the Rockefellers to start her clinics. 1/3 of the black population has gotten wiped out since
abortion became legal in 1973.

I'm anxiously awaiting your reply to these hard facts. "

Brian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 10:55 AM:

" Lodian wrote,
If someone chooses an abortion it is because it was her choice.

Evidently you are not aware that the abortion activists have much more influence on women than the adoption activists. Your sorry a$$ excuse for abortion makes me sick. Perhaps you should do some research on why there are so many people on the waiting list for extended periods of time to adopt
before you make a blanket statement that unexpected pregnancies have to end up in abortions because there are no other options. Also, there is not enough money flowing into these adoption agencies because the abortion racketeers make billions selling body parts. If just a small percentage of this money went to adoption education the abortion rate would go down. Not that you care. "

Brian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 10:45 AM:

" Lodian, so I am a twisted freak to not want the baby to live if he or she is aborted knowing the baby is perfectly capable of surviving but I should put the baby in the closet to die anyway?
This is what Obama is a proponent of.

Now, it should be you that gets hauled away by the men in white overcoats along with Obama. "

Brian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 10:40 AM:

" Billy,

It takes competence to understand how many of those labels do apply to Obama. So far, Obama makes no bones exibiting
all those labels. Now, if you were competent to understand what he really is, you wouldn't have voted for him.

If we were to apply your rationale then you were incompetent to think Bush was all those labels. You on the left made no bones calling Bush all those things at one time or another.He did a much better job not exibiting all those labels along with not being any of them at all. I'm sure you on left even slipped in the N word. The N word is not just a derogatory remark describing blacks. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 10:36 AM:

" Brian wrote "There is ample evidence that Obama is a socialist. There is also ample evidence that Obama is a proponent of letting babies aborted and still living die even if the babies could survive and live a normal life."

Brian: There is this thing called personal responsibility. Ever hear of it? Well, maybe you haven't heard of it. Listen up... If someone chooses an abortion it is because it was her choice. It always kills me how you right wingnuts want zero government in your life but you scream and will kill for the government to enter a woman's womb and make all the decisions for her. And if you think a woman has made a bad choice you then blame it on the government/president? Man, you are one twisted freak. "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 10:25 AM:

" Giggling at Acampo_Mom's post @ 8:35am. :-) "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 10:24 AM:

" Neo wrote on Apr 24, 2009 7:57 AM:

" Billy... let it go dude... you`re becomin the "anti-jerome".

Aren't we all "anti-jerome"? LOL! "

Lodian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 10:23 AM:

" Brian: You're a disgrace. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 24, 2009 9:35 AM:

" Brian, if you are incompetent enough to use socialist and fascist interchangeably as Obama labels, for safety's sake perhaps you should stick to the desperate Republican script of pulling out *all* the stops, by also calling Obama a Nazi, terrorist, muslim, anti-Christ, demon, America-hater, communist, illegal alien, baby killer, homeless, jay walker, speeder, etc., etc... and let's not forget YOUR favorite disparaging name for him, Brian. Yes, THAT one. The one you actually needed to create a new identity to use. "

stantaves wrote on Apr 24, 2009 9:12 AM:

" ...And just when everyone was getting along so well. C'mon go easy -- you do want more letters don't you? "

Brian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 8:58 AM:

" http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/thornton011008.html

Freedom’s Dictators
History shows liberalism shares much with fascism. "

Brian wrote on Apr 24, 2009 8:45 AM:

" Billy wrote:

And finally, join Jerome in his cozy, cramped apartment, while he composes his next column, an exciting no-holds-barred expose explaining in riveting detail every aspect of his wish that the Nazi-Communist-Socialist Obama would not only fail in everything he tries, but would also stop serving aborted fetuses at Whitehouse State dinners. "

-Perhaps this is not entirely untrue. There is ample evidence that Obama is a socialist. There is also ample evidence
that Obama is a proponent of letting
babies aborted and still living die
even if the babies could survive and live a normal life. And he is pushing forward with his agenda to find anything he can to prosecute the past administration. He's a disgrace. He's not much different than what dictators
do to silence their opponents. "

wtf wrote on Apr 24, 2009 8:20 AM:

" tosh conn, gray cloud, Madman and veritas.....wonder if they're all the same person.....

This is why the LNS should allow only ONE name per blogger and NOT allow the name to be changed for at least THREE MONTHS

Unless, of course, the LNS likes promoting propaganda and pro-Jerome BS. LOL! "

Neo wrote on Apr 24, 2009 7:57 AM:

" Billy... let it go dude... you`re becomin the "anti-jerome". Still got that tat behind your ear? "

danielh wrote on Apr 24, 2009 3:22 AM:

" max_S: Sorry about that. I thought I understood it, but now I can't figure it out. "

veritas wrote on Apr 23, 2009 8:38 PM:

" Does anyone blogging here know jerome ?

My experiences tell me that you are not qualified to buff his shoes.

Sorry i cannot tell you more, Hanner will cut me off if I say what you are incapable of performing on your person. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 23, 2009 8:35 PM:

" Oh my! "

Madman wrote on Apr 23, 2009 5:18 PM:

" Jerome, you say you want Obama's policies to fail. Well I am with you. I hope they fail enough so that you can no longer live off our government.

Anyone suckling off our government's teet should not be so eager to condemn our government's policies.

You freeloading jacka$$. You should learn to keep your mouth shut. Just cash your welfare checks and shut the f&*k up. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 23, 2009 4:46 PM:

" Oops, I think the raw nerves have been reached. LOL "

tosh conn wrote on Apr 23, 2009 4:17 PM:

" Well--What the F...you just substianted every point I ever made. You said "tosh conn ***did*** compare Jerome to Jesus." READ MY POST YOU SIMPLE MINDED DROOLING SCHMUCK !!! Not only are you wrong, you are a liar, distorter and worse, a scheiss and schummel. As I intoned, if you cannot read, SHUT UP. "

gray cloud wrote on Apr 23, 2009 4:11 PM:

" I only watch this stuff occasionally but
BILLY RUBIN you are a angry little person. tosh's words are correct. you meet his standards of being an angry, pitiful human. "

wtf wrote on Apr 23, 2009 3:54 PM:

" Billy Rubin your last post was GREAT!!! I couldn't stop laughing; unlike tosh conn's post....which is ***still*** sad and, from what I could tell, tosh conn ***did*** compare Jerome to Jesus.

Love what you wrote Billy Rubin! "

Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 23, 2009 3:17 PM:

" ***FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE***

In an Extra Special Monday Edition of the Lodi News-Sentinel, guest columnist Jerome Kinderman, writing under the pseudonym "Jesus Christ" will explain in detail his feelings that the earth is somewhat round. This ground-breaking treatise will explore Jerome's struggle to understand his adolescent yearnings and to deal with his feelings that the earth might actually be round while the reader experiences his frustration.

Follow Jerome as his teen angst turns to adult bitterness as he is confronted with the truth that people aren't at all interested in hearing each of his global opinions.

And finally, join Jerome in his cozy, cramped apartment, while he composes his next column, an exciting no-holds-barred expose explaining in riveting detail every aspect of his wish that the Nazi-Communist-Socialist Obama would not only fail in everything he tries, but would also stop serving aborted fetuses at Whitehouse State dinners. "

tosh conn wrote on Apr 23, 2009 3:13 PM:

" Dear What the F [WTF] I definitely do not take life seriously. As my daddy always said "Life is too short to take it seriously". What I find unhelpful are comments that do not address the issues as I outlined earlier. Example from you, wtf: "If we were all honest, Jerome's letters to the editor are similar to a sore tooth; the one you keep worrying, the one that annoys the heck out of you but you can't seem to stop wiggling it....that's Jerome, his writins and our comments! LOL! " I read all letters to the editor. His are some of the more lucid. "

wtf wrote on Apr 23, 2009 2:37 PM:

" tosh conn you seem sad and confused. Many of us bloggers actually enjoy bagging on Jerome...it makes our day and we miss him when he's not around or we don't have a recent letter to the editor by him. LOL! Lighten up, buddy; it's all in good fun and you're wa-a-a-a-ay too serious. ;) "

tosh conn wrote on Apr 23, 2009 2:26 PM:

" Some of you bloggers are so pitifully angry at the world, assuaging your sad existence by lashing out at Jerome. If Jesus Christ himself wrote a letter to the editor under an assumed name eg: "jerome", you would rip him to bits even if he wrote an honest, logical, correct, factual, truthful etc piece. You simply hate someone because you live a hateful existence. You do not look for truth nor accuracy. If Jerome wrote "the earth is round" you losers would go ballastic and argue that it is flat, or that he has no right to make that statement, or that technically the earth is not "perfectly" round etc [it is not perfectly round]. You are very miserable people. Please have another swig of Kool Aid and keep typing. You provide me with countless hours of sad but humorous commentary on "humans". "

wtf wrote on Apr 23, 2009 12:48 PM:

" stantaves we don't comment on the content of Jerome's letters - not because we're girly men - but because there is none. LOL! We kid about the frequency of Jerome's missives due to....well, the **frequency** of his letters. "

max stanfield wrote on Apr 23, 2009 11:09 AM:

" danielh Are you a pinhead or do you read news ? Yes, of course it is against federal laws. She admitted such later in her speech that it was against our laws, she just doesnt agree with it. Read up on what you are yakking about or shut up. "

stantaves wrote on Apr 23, 2009 10:50 AM:

" I have to admit it, pretty funny. But the truth remains: Jerome Kinderman is a "letter writer extraordinare"; and not one of you blubberheads out have the guts to attack him on content. C'mon man-up boys and girls -- mostly girls, eh -- and tell Jerome what's really going on. "

Jeff wrote on Apr 23, 2009 10:30 AM:

" Jerome, the little scratch on the roof of your mouth that would heal, if you cound only stop tounging it.

But you can't. "

sourwine wrote on Apr 23, 2009 10:24 AM:

" Jerome:

You are becoming a pain in the posterior.
Give it arest. "

wtf wrote on Apr 23, 2009 9:19 AM:

" Billy Rubin, I was going to comment on how I wondered where Jerome had got to; however, your post sums it all up.

Think about it. If we were all honest, Jerome's letters to the editor are similar to a sore tooth; the one you keep worrying, the one that annoys the heck out of you but you can't seem to stop wiggling it....that's Jerome, his writins and our comments! LOL! "

danielh wrote on Apr 23, 2009 8:48 AM:

" max stanfield: Can you prove that such a law exists? "

danielh wrote on Apr 23, 2009 8:47 AM:

" max stanfield: "illegal immigration" is really NOT a crime. "

danielh wrote on Apr 23, 2009 8:46 AM:

" lodisafeway: I'm soooooo glad to know about your opinion, because it is the correct opinion, and everything you say is correct, just like you say.

Can you write another? "

max stanfield wrote on Apr 23, 2009 8:46 AM:

" PS. Anyone notice this little tidbit from the child-president's appointee Napolitano today ??

"Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano stunned many listeners during an appearance on CNN when she asserted that illegal immigration is really not a crime."

Great words from an appointee who was sworn to uphold our laws !!! Yes I want his people and his nutty policies to fail too. "

max stanfield wrote on Apr 23, 2009 8:40 AM:

" Jerry: Underscoring your points, look down and left on your page in the LNS at Sowell's review of Nutty Professor Osama's Napolitano's "extremist" report. If you go to church, disagree with killing babies, think the government is overtaxing, if you support the 10th and 2nd and even 1st amendments, if you disagree with appointments who are tax cheats, terrorists, apologists, and other assorted underworld characters now called "administration appointees", if you are luckly enough to return alive from a war zone, then you are a "person of interest" to this president. Yes, I want these crooks to fail too. Socialism WILL fail on its own because it has never worked [sadly it will cost Americans trillions to find this out...again]. Oppressive taxation should also fail. If Barry didn't hate America so much, I too would want him to succeed. But, alas, that is too much of a "Change" even for him. "

Jeff wrote on Apr 23, 2009 8:01 AM:

" 'Too many folks truly believe that by rallying behind anyone doing the wrong thing (simply for the sake of doing "something"), good things will occur. That might make people feel good, but it won't solve our problems.'

Sounds like some folks I saw and heard about 7 years ago... "

Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 23, 2009 5:54 AM:

" What a relief to see Lodi News-Sentinel guest columnist Jerome Kinderman has returned from his haitus and is, gingerly at least, "back in the saddle"!

I'm sure I speak for all of us when I say he has been missed over the last two days while he's been convalescing after his traumatic tea bag accident when he slipped in a puddle of his own drool.

To show your continued support for Jerome, be sure to contact your local news stand to reserve your very own copy of this Saturday's Extra-Special Lodi News-Sentinel Tri-Weekly Collectors' Edition in which Jerome Kinderman further states and clarifies for the record his position on wishing for Obama's failure.

Early press relases reveal this new bombshell will cover in greater detail than ever Jerome's minute-by-minute opinions on the failed Obama Administration!

Remember, quantities will be limited and once they're gone, they're gone forever; DON'T MISS IT! "

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