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We need to support our president
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:52 AM PDT
In response to Jerome Kinderman's letter regarding his stance on Obama verses Limbaugh:
It is appalling that any American with a love for this country and a belief in what it stands for would wish that our president would fail, regardless of who our president is. If that person fails during this severe economic period, we will be in the worst economic situation in history. Not just for Americans, but on a global level. This is not a time when you should be wishing Obama fails for your own personal satisfaction. This is a time when we, as Americans, need to remove our political labels and band together to pull this country out of this crisis. This cannot be done by just one person but only with the help of an entire nation. When communities experience local catastrophes such as floods and fires, people are there for each other. Neighbors reach out to neighbors regardless of their political affiliation. Mr. Kinderman, doesn't our great nation deserve the support of each of us in its time of need?
With regard to your support of Rush Limbaugh, this does not surprise me. Rush Limbaugh is considered a right-wing radical shock jock. Not all people that listen to Rush agree with his views. In fact, many of the people who listen to these types of radio hosts listen because of the shock value only. I know this for a fact, as I used to work for a Howard Stern station. In 2003, Limbaugh admitted to being addicted to OxyContin and was charged with prescription fraud in 2006. He avoided more charges by plea-bargaining. Limbaugh was also asked to resign from ESPN because of racial remarks. He has made comments in support of these big executive bonuses, which is not surprising after he himself signed a $400 million contract in 2008. He will receive $38 million per year through 2016 and a $100 million signing bonus. I'm pretty sure he will say just about anything for that kind of money.
Mr. Kinderman, it saddens me to know that there are people whose values are as such that they would rather see someone like Rush Limbaugh succeed and the President of the United States fail.
Sheri Alberg
Lockeford
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danielh wrote on Apr 22, 2009 3:06 PM:
Are these the same, and was this an intentional decoy? "
Lodian wrote on Apr 21, 2009 10:22 AM:
Lee wrote on Apr 19, 2009 11:28 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 19, 2009 10:36 PM:
Then you come back here and try to repeat their act. It never works, of course. They play to an echo chamber - no matter what they say, the fools will call in just to be on the radio and tell each other they're a great Americans.
Here's the problem, Brian:
Jerome said. "...during the course of three months we've incurred more debt as a nation than in our entire history that came before Inauguration Day 2009."
He's a liar; though he wisely chose to run from the room (slamming his own Republican teabag in the door as he did so).
You, simple Brian, ran to his aid.
Of course there was nothing you could do; his dishonesty being what it is...
So now you try to make a point, any point, to save face.
But this is the time to slink away, Brian. "
voter wrote on Apr 19, 2009 6:57 PM:
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2009 6:13 PM:
Mr. Obama's $3.6 trillion budget blueprint, by his own admission, redefines the role of government in our economy and society. The budget more than doubles the national debt held by the public, adding more to the debt than all previous presidents -- from George Washington to George W. Bush -- combined. It reduces defense spending to a level not sustained since the dangerous days before World War II, while increasing nondefense spending (relative to GDP) to the highest level in U.S. history. And it would raise taxes to historically high levels (again, relative to GDP). And all of this before addressing the impending explosion in Social Security and Medicare costs. "
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2009 6:08 PM:
noting all the accomplishments of the BO admin. She's so focused on defending him she'll believe any untruth in order to repudiate an obvious blunder by BO.
Again, the blind faith. "
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2009 6:03 PM:
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2009 5:54 PM:
President Barack Obama has repeatedly claimed that his budget would cut the deficit by half by the end of his term. But as Heritage analyst Brian Riedl has pointed out, given that Obama has already helped quadruple the deficit with his stimulus package, pledging to halve it by 2013 is hardly ambitious. The Washington Post has a great graphic which helps put President Obama’s budget deficits in context of President Bush’s.
What’s driving Obama’s unprecedented massive deficits? Spending "
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2009 5:49 PM:
" Brian wrote "Lodian, any time you are ready to have a discussion in person with me."
Brian: Why the deep desire to meet me in person? You've offered this "in person" meeting more than once now. Can't you debtae with words?
-Because I really don't think you are as capable of having a civil conversation on these bloggs as me. And I am curious how you really are. Given you are incapable of holding a conversation or a debate with anyone without going off on a tangent, this I presume is because
you really aren't nearly as smart as you make yourself out to be. On many occasions you rely on other bloggers
to validate things you think you know are true only to have people like me
to repudiate them. Are you even capable of doing your own research? I'm providing a link on my next post on how much more defecit spending Obama is going to do than Bush. "
Lodian wrote on Apr 19, 2009 5:39 PM:
Brian: Why the deep desire to meet me in person? You've offered this "in person" meeting more than once now. Can't you debtae with words? "
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2009 5:32 PM:
" Here are the facts, Brian.
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
Note how the debt rises sharply under Reagan, falls during the Clinton years, and then spikes under Bush. Interesting graphic. "
-what does this have anything to do with the fact that Obama has put the country in debt more than all the past presidents combined. Lodian and voter's blind faith in BO is why we need people to stand up to him and criticize.
Lodian, any time you are ready to have a discussion in person with me.
I stand up to you and your minions on a daily basis. Someone has to call all of you baffoons on your untruths.What really amazes me is how you don't even realize an untruth on a regular basis. "
Lodian wrote on Apr 19, 2009 5:19 PM:
Lodian wrote on Apr 19, 2009 5:13 PM:
Brian: Chuckle... You don't even have the "intestinal fortitude" to stand up to anonymous bloggers on a Lodi message board. "
voter wrote on Apr 19, 2009 5:12 PM:
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
Note how the debt rises sharply under Reagan, falls during the Clinton years, and then spikes under Bush. Interesting graphic. "
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2009 4:50 PM:
" lodisafeway wrote on Apr 19, 2009 8:02 AM:"[blah, blah, blah] I care that during the course of three months we've incurred more debt as a nation than in our entire history that came before Inauguration Day 2009."
This statement can be backed up with evidence that it is true.
Billy, you are a moron! "
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2009 4:46 PM:
Oh contrare, us right wing nuts (as you call us) were quick to offer our criticisms of Bush far more often than you realize. I have a laundry list of things I disagreed with Bush on. You Obamites are still in the honeymoon mode. When will you all come down to reality and join those who aren't afraid to voice our criticisms of him.
I'll bet you aren't even capable of making a list of accomplishments of Obama as well as us right wing nuts. Are you even aware that he has done good or are you that narrow minded that you would think we only think he has done bad. This blind faith that you Obamites have for him is the very reason why us right wing nuts have to keep you up to date on him. Consider yourself fortunate that we have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to him.
Yes , he chomps at the bit every time he hears criticism. Well, he can chomp on the bit until the cows come home. If he doesn't like it, that's tough. It's not going to change . This is America. "
Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 19, 2009 4:14 PM:
Of course I expect no answer, Jerome, but out of idle curiosity, how do you keep your head from exploding when you tell such a lie as quoted above? Have you lost your mind to the extent that facts mean nothing to you? Do you just type random thoughts that you feel the need to try to tar Obama with? Are you getting this misinformation from your friends on athe hate radio network and simply reflexively regurgitating it for us?
Of course, I don't care how stupid you sound or what lies you tell, but still, I'm curious... "
Lodian wrote on Apr 19, 2009 3:22 PM:
All the sudden the right wing-nuts seems to "care".
The right wing-nuts excuse Bush's failures.
Or maybe it's just that the wing-nuts are projecting Bush's failures onto our new president and now call Obama out on what are really Bush's failures.
Obama has to clean up the one of the worst messes in US history and the right wing-nuts blame Obama for it all the minute he took office.
Yep, sounds like the usual right wing-nut position to me. "
Brian wrote on Apr 19, 2009 3:04 PM:
You know how stubborn liberals can be if they are faced with betraying their feelings. Good clear logic and rationale
means nothing to them. Their emotions trump even the most obvious facts. "
lodisafeway wrote on Apr 19, 2009 8:02 AM:
I care that during the course of three months we've incurred more debt as a nation than in our entire history that came before Inauguration Day 2009.
I care that we have a president whose POLICIES are driving us toward being a socialist society.
I care that we have a president who has no compunction about apologizing on foreign soil for all the "evil" we've perpetrated while at the same time bowing to a Saudi king.
I care that we have a president who thinks it's appropriate to expect a private institution hide its spiritual symbols in order to have him grace them with his presence.
I care that we have an administration rife with scofflaws who write the rules on the confiscating of our money, but don't believe they should obey those same laws.
I care. But I'm even more concerned about those millions of citizens who either simply don't care or are afraid to stand up against economic tyranny and outright theft of not only our money, but our progeny's legacies as well.
I care. "
LS Alberg wrote on Apr 17, 2009 10:08 PM:
I would read all the responding comments to your concise piece, but I fear for my blood pressure. (Which is their intention, hence, I've ignored some.) It's pretty simple to ferret out positive -vs- negative merely reading the first sentence.
I'm a staunch supporter of our First Amendment and our freedom to engage in intelligent debate - no matter our political affiliation or leanings - however, to the one who mentioned (I'm paraphrasing), ...write in the morning...clear headed... Do you speak to your family and friends with that attitude? Or just when you can hide behind a supposed anonymous moniker? One hopes the next time you respond to a "Letters" opinion, you will write a valid - and more importantly - applicable to the issue(s) at hand comment. To be candid, your post brought to mind a famous line from the film, "Forrest Gump" (and I don't mean "Life is like a box of chocolates".) If you have to ask which line; I rest my case. If not... I've made my point. "
Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 16, 2009 6:33 AM:
Sometimes I'm inclined to throw up my hands and say "Pfffft...don't care!" "
Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 15, 2009 11:09 PM:
Then why, Loserman, do you keep writing day after day, week after week that you want him to fail? You must have written forty letters to the editor braying that you want Obama to fail, you pray he fails, you wish he would fail. Oh, God, please let Obama fail at everything he tries today.
Well,you know what,Loserman? Fine. You want him to fail;nobody cares anymore. Are you happy now? While you sit alone in your miserable apartment all day, spying through the curtains at your neighbors, is this what you wanted for the country as some contemptuous revenge for your misery? To have the country so broken it is finally irredeemable?
Why not just crawl back into your creepy hole and look at your wall poster of George in his flight suit and dream the sweet dreams of the Golden George W.Bush years-you know, the ones that are[thankfully]never coming back. "
lodisafeway wrote on Apr 15, 2009 10:12 PM:
As for McCain, I wasn't blown out of the water by his performance either. But with all of this bad-mouthing of Sarah Palin, I am convinced that she would have been a very good choice for the V.P. position and one day would be a wonderful President. For someone never before on the national stage, she handled herself with tremendous professionalism and yes, grace. She's more articulate than Obama has proven to be and her experience far outweighs his.
I would have rather had Palin at the top of the Republican ticket than McCain; and one day I might just get my wish. And I'm confident she'll be president before Hillary Clinton. "
sam wrote on Apr 15, 2009 8:48 PM:
Gator wrote on Apr 15, 2009 4:22 PM:
Paul Bremer all but lost the war by their ham handed way they ran it. You don’t fight a
Counter insurgency war by killing every thing in sight, by doing that you turn the very
People against you that you want to help. They disbanded the Iraqi army big mistake,
they allowed looting to take place, major mistake and they Blew up Baghdad and flattened Fallujah the biggest mistake as it brought terrorist from all over the world to fight…Their best weapon Camera and Video Camera along with the IED, a blood bath
ensued…Fast forward to 2007, the surge and General David Petreaus who worked with
the Iraqis to turn things around and gain the trust of all the Iraqis. He and his troops moved and lived among the civilians not on remote bases. they gained the respect and trust of the civilians and the tide began to turn, they turned on the terrorist and gave them safe Haven no more…If not for Petreaus the war would have been lost and 4000 died for nothing.. "
Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 15, 2009 2:37 PM:
"Acampo_Mom - there isn't one human who isn't self-serving in some sort of way...."
I agree.
"This is simply the way that we're wired. It is the overwhelming power instilled into our elected leaders that corruption takes root."
Agreed
"But as far as this being some sort of guessing game or situation where we have to cross our fingers as we put someone in office, I have to disagree."
Really? So you can predict with certainty what would have happened if McCain and Palin had won the election? I'm sure that those that had voted for Bush had no idea how bad things would get. (I put MYSELF into that category as well)
"Clearly we should have been able to discern what we were going to get during all of that. The evidence was right there; people were imploring others to stop, look and listen before falling for any of these people who claimed to have our best interests at the fore."
And how would that have been any different if another candidate had won?
Cross your fingers...spin a bottle...Ro-Sham-Bo...eeny meeny miney mo. "
lodisafeway wrote on Apr 15, 2009 1:42 PM:
Here, history has made it clear that no nation has ever been able to tax its people into prosperity. Since when is the answer to a shortage of money to go out and spend that which one does not have? Trillions of dollars - just the interest is going to have a stranglehold on us for generations to come. And all of these bailouts - GM - the talk is that they'll have no choice but to declare bankruptcy, after handing them how much of "our" money? Now that's money down the crapper - and it isn't even GMs money! Why couldn't they (Obama) have seen this coming before wasting the taxpayer's money? Is this the change that everyone wanted so badly. Not I!
Oh yeah, these policies must fail in order for us to thrive. "
lodisafeway wrote on Apr 15, 2009 1:31 PM:
No one wants the President to fail; nor do we want the United States to fail. But there are many of us who truly believe that his policies will lead us further away from a successful nation. As such, we want his POLICIES to fail. We don't want socialism here; we want his efforts in this regard to fail. We don't want to saddle our prodigy with trillions of dollars of debt; we want his pie-in-the-sky fiscal policies to fail.
I don't know any other way to make it clear. Just because a president fails does not mean the country will fail. If our nation depends upon one man, then we're in big trouble. We survived Carter - we'll survive Obama as well. The issue is how long will it take to recover from his failed policies?
Still, I don't suppose even this simple explanation will cause those who are unwilling or incapable of forming a logical thought to admit they really do understand the concept. "
Gator wrote on Apr 15, 2009 12:45 PM:
This country has failed to many times over the past 8 years. All but lost the
War in Iraq and the same can be said for Afghanistan. Social Security reform, zero. Health Care, zero. Education, zeroBush kept us safe, only half right. It was the combined effort of all the agencies working together as they should have been all along. Bush had bin Laden cold in the Tora Bora
And wouldnt give the green light to kill him. The same can be said for Clinton except he had 3 chances and blew it off.. I could go on but its all been said before The mess we have is of our making and its up to us to
clean it up working together.. The alternative is not acceptable "
lodisafeway wrote on Apr 15, 2009 12:00 PM:
We had a very long and contentious primary that led up to Obama becoming our president while keeping many of the same characters in the Congress. Clearly we should have been able to discern what we were going to get during all of that. The evidence was right there; people were imploring others to stop, look and listen before falling for any of these people who claimed to have our best interests at the fore.
After only three months it is becoming clear that we've been duped - but by whom? Most knew who and what Obama was; why didn't we listen to ourselves as he promised to do precisely what it is that he is now doing? Sadly, many people didn't even vote. We have only ourselves to blame. "
wtf wrote on Apr 15, 2009 11:36 AM:
WELL said! "
Acampo_Mom wrote on Apr 15, 2009 9:44 AM:
I've never felt like we (as a nation) have been represented adequately. And when a bill or law is up for consideration that we might finally approve of, someone always has to step in and tack on some sort of contingency or provision that twists it and contorts it out of shape until it no longer resembles the original idea. There is not ONE politician that lacks some sort of self serving agenda, it is a guessing game as to which one(s) you should stand behind. Once you chose which one(s) to support, you almost have to cross your fingers and hope that they don't royally screw it up. "
peppier2 wrote on Apr 15, 2009 9:35 AM:
t jefferson wrote on Apr 15, 2009 9:18 AM:
That should be a good start. Personally I think Bush was a failure because he was a RINO and sold out true conservative principles, I fear BO will do what he says and we will cross a line of no return and the country will complete the cycle of democracy. If you do not know what the end state is go look it up. "
Audi 5000 wrote on Apr 15, 2009 9:12 AM:
So we can submit to and in some sense support political leaders with whom we disagree with, but not necessarily a universal submission and support if the elected official who would ask us to do something that God forbids or prevent us from doing something that God demands, and the Bible has precedents in those situations.
The Bible commands us to pray for our leaders as God is the one who truly is in control of every government and of every elected official.
If there ever is a conflict between God and man, God wins. He is our ultimate King and Ruler, and we are going to obey Him before all other things. "
Cogito wrote on Apr 15, 2009 8:52 AM:
wtf wrote on Apr 15, 2009 8:41 AM:
BINGO!!!! "
max stanfield wrote on Apr 15, 2009 7:35 AM:
Leonard wrote on Apr 15, 2009 7:32 AM:
" Sheri this is not a personal issue. It instead is a long term viability issues. There is no example of a country being successful if it implement the programs and idea that BO is advocating. So in effect he will fail
I am curious. What program, specifically, are you referring to? "
t jefferson wrote on Apr 15, 2009 6:48 AM:
Here is a question for you. How many promises has BO kept? Where is the war at? Where is the PATRIOT act at? Where exactly is BO different from Bush?
I personally don't like either party and think both are destroying this country, but with millions of people caught up in partisan bickering the masters get to do what they want. "
t jefferson wrote on Apr 15, 2009 5:59 AM:
And that is where the rub comes in, you think BO is doing something right and the other half of the country think what he is doing is destroying the country. Nothing personal at all, just history versus fantasy. "
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