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An act of treason?
Thursday, April 2, 2009 6:17 AM PDT
I am completely and utterly appalled by the behavior that I witnessed today, March 19.
Congress committed treason by trashing my Constitution. Either Congress actually knows the Constitution and violated it willingly (through feigned anger sans reasoning) or Congress doesn’t know the Constitution at all; either of these acts prove that anyone who voted for the AIG bonus tax is incompetent and no longer worthy of their seat. Had Congress upheld the Constitution today, then Article 1 Section 9 would not have been overtly spat upon.
Let us return to the scene of the crime: “ARTICLE 1 — SECTION 9, No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.” That is as clear as can possibly be. There is no debate; there is no room for interpretation. Congress has usurped the authority of the people, and this is an atrocity of the most disgusting kind. They have turned their backs on our founders and the victory over tyranny that they so arduously fought against. Congress has failed miserably by misrepresenting the people with its wastefulness and disregard for the Constitution, not to mention the fact that Congress has used the Constitution as a weapon for revenge and not as a means of protection of the people that they supposedly represent.
I am so angry, as are many other Americans. Congress and Obama are the guilty parties in allowing the bonuses here to pass. Expect 2010 and 2013 to be the year of true reformation and American progress. We the People are making it our mission to see that as many of the 243 Democrats and 85 Republicans who committed this treason fail to keep their seats and never again have the ability to trample on the most precious document we have today. We are going to elect proper representatives. Everyone should be outraged. Patriots and real conservatives: Speak. Be heard. Tax Day Tea Party 04.15.2009 (www.taxdayteaparty.com).
Benjamin Bax
Lodi
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Cogito wrote on Apr 10, 2009 6:43 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 10, 2009 6:42 PM:
stantaves wrote on Apr 10, 2009 5:11 PM:
voter wrote on Apr 10, 2009 3:43 PM:
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/34 "
Rhodie wrote on Apr 10, 2009 1:24 PM:
A lot of things that deal with the side effects and interests of a society 300 million strong and global implications is always complex. But NOT doing something because it might be difficult is no solution either. I am also a very strong perpontent of removing the US from oil dependency which will be more difficult than legalizing something that only been illegal for 50ish years. Personally i think conviencing people to give up gas cars is a much more difficult task than showing them the economic advantages of legalizing pot. Will there still be illegal trade, yes. There is illegal trade of alcohal as well. But we can't tax what we don't control. The only way to control pot is to legalize it. And while imported pot will still come over the borders, the economic windfall to the third world countries could stem the wave of illegals coming over here.
We could get some taxes and revenue from most of the pot or none from all of it. Which makes more bottom dollar sense? "
Leonard wrote on Apr 10, 2009 12:13 PM:
Can't you even play a little hard get?
"hard get"????
Is that a prison game?
Perhaps we should ask Giovanino... "
stantaves wrote on Apr 10, 2009 11:29 AM:
Leonard wrote on Apr 10, 2009 10:59 AM:
" The "left" -- Good God almighty, what is wrong with you people? There is no evil, just the "mis-understood"? there is no right or wrong, just differing points of veiw.
Stan Taves lives in a wonderful land of make believe populated entirely by straw horses.
How charming. "
danielh wrote on Apr 10, 2009 10:26 AM:
" The problem Rhodie is that legalization is a complex can of worms,
How about just legalize the stuff.
What's so complex about that? "
Cogito wrote on Apr 10, 2009 10:06 AM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 10, 2009 8:59 AM:
stantaves wrote on Apr 10, 2009 8:23 AM:
danielh wrote on Apr 9, 2009 11:03 PM:
danielh wrote on Apr 9, 2009 11:01 PM:
The Bush administration refused to classify them as such. "
Lodian wrote on Apr 9, 2009 10:00 PM:
campking wrote on Apr 9, 2009 9:00 PM:
If Guantanamo was filled with prisoners arrested while in America, I'd agree with you, they would have needed to be mirandized, and be subject to habeus corpus.
The fact is, they were arrested, or detained, or captured ON THE BATTLEFIELD. We must not burden our troops with having to act like our Law Enforcement, while protecting our Constitution. Our Constitution does NOT give rights to our enemy on the battlefield.
And for you that are all for letting them go. A little known fact (only because NBC won't report it) many of the detainees have been cleared to be released, but no-one will take them. NO ONE WANTS THEM. A dozen or so of them wrote a Manifesto declaring themselves to be "Enemies of America", and that if they were released the "Would kill Americans to secure a place in heaven".
You want these guys released because we didn't read them their rights? Or because we held them over 72 hours without charging them?
Quit dreaming. "
stantaves wrote on Apr 9, 2009 12:38 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Apr 9, 2009 11:27 AM:
Sorry, had to poke fun at the recent article. "
Rhodie wrote on Apr 9, 2009 11:22 AM:
http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/
Cognito, by your statement "legalize more mind numbing, potential robbing drugs, if it means you may get an increase in salary?" Someone could make the same arguemtn against alcohol. If we are allowing one mind-numbing potential robbing drug then why not another whose properties are very similar? I've read a couple competing theories but I tend to think most people think marijuana has always been illegal when that is not true. In fact it didn't become truly illegal until the 1960's. For 30 years before that it was heavily txed. And before that it was one of the worlds largest Ag. crops.
I am not advocating for my own benifits or desires, I don't smoke, don't drink and have seen first hand what drug abuse does to a family. But I also am convinced that marijuana is LESS dangerous than alcohol and could be easily regulated under the same rules and taxes. Maybe a hybrid of beer and tobacco where commercial retailers have to advertise the dangerous effects of their product as well. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 9, 2009 9:31 AM:
" So Rhodie, your willing to legalize more mind numbing, potential robbing drugs, if it means you may get an increase in salary? Aren't you in the business of making peoples lives work better? How are people going to achieve more if they're high? Are you willing to sacrifice the future of some of your students for a little extra tax money? Besides, decriminalization of weed would just get everyone who smokes it to grow their own. Then it's free!
I am not a proponent of drug use but the fact is that the current system has failed with the result that our southern neighbor is on the verge of a civil war that will have many unpleasant and long lasting consequences for our nation.
I hear a lot of noise from the opponents of legalization but what I don't hear is a workable alternative.
Every year the situation gets worse and worse and all we get from the powers that be is more of the same old status quo. "
Cogito wrote on Apr 9, 2009 9:24 AM:
Rhodie wrote on Apr 9, 2009 12:11 AM:
Calling me a Republican is like calling me a Walmart shopper, I may go there occasionally but also go to Target, S-mart foods and other stores that better fit my needs. "
Lodian wrote on Apr 8, 2009 11:26 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Apr 8, 2009 11:18 PM:
Where do I draw the line? The Patriot act is right there for me. I will not swear blind obedience or be silenced if I am in oppose to something (I may have proven that here). I am against (as some conspirisists have proposed) using computers to see into peoples homes. I am against the tracking of normal purchases though items that are known to cause bad things to happen should be checked into like if some guy buys two tons of fertalizer but lives in an apartment, we may want to check him out. I don't have a gun but they are proven to increase security since places with more household guns have lower crime rates. I draw the line at being told what I can and can not buy within reason because I don't know why anyone needs armor piercing bullets unless they plan to pierce armor. And above all else I will not sacrifice truth for security. More knowledge = more security. "
Rhodie wrote on Apr 8, 2009 11:07 PM:
If instead of 10-15 a year we only had 2-3 a year because the groups coordinating and talking about what they were going to do were intercepted by police then would that be a good thing?
You asked what my security was worth, it is worth less than my privacy but my liberty is trump.
Is your privacy worth more to you than 1 life, 10 lives, 100 lives? I'm not talking liberty or freedom, just your privacy in terms of what you put out over the airwaves. How many lives is that worth to you? "
Rhodie wrote on Apr 8, 2009 10:58 PM:
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/07/nation/na-cop-spy7
So state police were monitoring lawful protests. Have you never heard of a lawful protest turning violent because of a few instigators? 53 Americans wrongly listed as terrorists. That is all the article says about that, not why they were listed or why they were wrongly listed. If they said "it would be easier to just blow up the building" (just an example) and the cop didn't report that then how do you think the cop would feel if the building did get blown up? But if they are cleared of terrorist activities then their names need to be expunged from the data banks hence the need for a judicial oversight committee for these lists.
And something I thought of with the sports fans. Let's say the Sac Kings make it to the championships and my super computer-thingy picks up chatter that the Delta Nu Nu's are planning to start a riot if they win. After looking at what happens in the wake of all those sports riots every year, would you say it is a good thing or bad that the police were monitoring them? "
Rhodie wrote on Apr 8, 2009 10:45 PM:
I didn't say we need to monitor them. I used them as an example at how uncivilized Americans can be twords one another.
"Only possible criminal activity is reported to protect a patient or others."
And so do you support these doctors violating privacy to protect others? It is the same thing I am avocating. Not going into peoples homes, rummaging through their things but, rather, look for criminal activities which may threaten lives. One point I agree with you on this about is the lack of oversight. There needs to be a strong judicial group overseeing the implimentation and execution of this power.
You keep questioning me on the Patriot act and I keep restating that I think only 75% is probably needed for a secure border.
"And where are you getting this "it's only a computer" listening in?"
How many people do you think the governemtn has listening to people talk and reading their e-mails, blogs and MYspace postings? It's not just America that is monitored (I believe) but any electronics the Gov. can get their hand on. Cont. "
Lodian wrote on Apr 8, 2009 10:20 PM:
voter wrote on Apr 8, 2009 8:59 PM:
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/07/nation/na-cop-spy7 "
voter wrote on Apr 8, 2009 8:45 PM:
voter wrote on Apr 8, 2009 8:36 PM:
voter wrote on Apr 8, 2009 8:34 PM:
stantaves wrote on Apr 8, 2009 8:12 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Apr 8, 2009 8:09 PM:
I value human life over that of my private communications. "
Rhodie wrote on Apr 8, 2009 7:58 PM:
First of all it isn't an employee but a wide computer net spread to look for specific threats. I wish more plots were disclosed to the public so comfirmation of it's effectiveness. Second, medical records have not been private for a long time, hospitals report all suspicious injuries to appropriate law enforcement. Library records are a public domain since anyone can open the books and see who looked at them and the computers are public as well thus no privacy laws violated. Lastly, it's not "every aspect" but specifically communications to third parties which MAY be part of terrorist plans.
"A right to privacy is fundamental."
http://www.apsu.edu/oconnort/3020/3020lect05.htm
The fourth amendment:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." "
voter wrote on Apr 8, 2009 4:14 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Apr 8, 2009 1:39 PM:
"I will gladly sacrifice privacy for my neighbors."
If it is the differance between a mall being blown up and my privacy then I'll give up the privacy. As you say, the only ones who should be afraid are those planning things they shouldn't be. And since my Farsi is as rusty as a junkyard I'm not to concerned.
Of course I may send my wife a steamy e-mail just to get the Government computer to blush but that's half the fun;) "
Cogito wrote on Apr 8, 2009 12:51 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Apr 8, 2009 11:12 AM:
http://gcn.com/articles/2007/09/08/your-call-may-be-monitored.aspx
"Just because I'm paranoid doen't mean I'm not being followed." Boy I wish I could remember which show that was from. "
Cogito wrote on Apr 8, 2009 9:06 AM:
Rhodie wrote on Apr 8, 2009 7:59 AM:
And maybe that is where there is a difference in our expectations and the cause of our opposing views. (With the exception of those held without representation) There is a difference between loss of privacy and loss of liberty. Privacy is there is someone else that knows what you are doing, liberty is someone preventing you from doing it. I will gladly sacrifice privacy for me neighbors. Law enforcement can already do it to track pedopheliacs and such. They monitor known sites and look for markers of child molesters. I think it is worth it, do you? "
voter wrote on Apr 7, 2009 8:50 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Apr 7, 2009 6:21 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 7, 2009 6:00 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Apr 7, 2009 4:06 PM:
The answer is ALL of them."
So by Billy's own words we should remove security measures and allow groups to invade America who want to kill all of us just because of where we live. In his own words his ability to bring more than a few ounces of liquid on a plane is more precious to him than the lives of any American mother, fathers, husbands or wives. He'd rather have everyone around us killed in cowardly attacks just so he can make it through airport security a little faster.
"The American revolution was fought to provide your liberties and you're ready to throw it all away because you're a coward, afraid of religious fundamentalists."
And he also compares fighting for the freedom of an opressive government to that of protecting fellow citizens from spending their last moments alive wondering how long until the tower collapses around you.
Yes, all hail Billy, just bring your children and loved ones to be sacraficed on his alter of liberty to bring a bigger shamppo bottle through the airport. "
Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 7, 2009 12:43 PM:
How can you put such tripe in print and expect to be taken seriously?
And then your ridiculous question "...how many American lives killed[sic] by terrorists is worth your liberty?"
The answer is ALL of them. How many millions of people have lived and died specifically to provide American liberties, Rhodie? I suppose you've never heard the Patrick Henry quote, "Give me liberty or give me death!"?
The American revolution was fought to provide your liberties and you're ready to throw it all away because you're a coward, afraid of religious fundamentalists. You are now willing to live in a police state? I guess that goes with your proposed prison camps. "
Lodian wrote on Apr 7, 2009 10:13 AM:
"onelastthing: Brian, You asked me some questions and I wasted my time, without realizing who I was talking to."
That's okay. We've all done it, Daniel. I guess it comes from optimism. We keep thinking Brian might find a respectful intelligent side, but these qualities have not shown up yet. I don't think it matters how many times he decides to change his handle. "
Rhodie wrote on Apr 7, 2009 7:55 AM:
But do you acknowledge that less security means a greater likelihood that another attack could happen? We are talking about a culture who is promised heavenly treasures if they blow us up and you want to take it lightly and as if they won't come back.
The history repeating itself from the quote is people and government getting becoming passive about security because "it won't happen here again" mentalities.
How about this: how many American lives killed by terrorists is worth your liberty? Is it more just to take away rights of people who want to kill Americans, enmasse, or to let them kill innocent fathers, mothers and children?
Should they be locked up indefinetly without trial, no. Should they be released into the mist of those they want to kill or back to their cohorts to plan more killings, no. "
voter wrote on Apr 7, 2009 6:41 AM:
Rhodie wrote on Apr 7, 2009 12:07 AM:
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it
If we don't have strong security then there will be another attack. What happens when a plane is flown into a sports arena with the 50k people inside? Will you then say where was all the security to protect those people? "
danielh wrote on Apr 6, 2009 9:32 PM:
Were you one of the persons I advised to change the userID so that you could lose your reputation? "
danielh wrote on Apr 6, 2009 9:30 PM:
" Lodian, Do I think the Patriot Act is working, and has saved lives? Absolutely.
Cogito: How many years has it been since 9/11? "
voter wrote on Apr 6, 2009 8:57 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 6, 2009 9:50 AM:
Rhodie wrote on Apr 6, 2009 8:28 AM:
(From someone who use to watch Discovery's "It takes a Thief") Let's you live in a very nice house that looks like an obvious target for thieves. If your house is broken into and many precious things taken, you will suddenly see the need for more security at your house. Lock the doors, secure the windows and maybe even have an alarm put in. Now many years go by and you have been diligent in securing your door and, surprise, surprise, you have not been broken into again. The alarm has gone off a few times, you find cigarette butts in the back yard when you don't smoke maybe your front sensor has caught a few suspicious guys lurking around but you have not had anything stolen. Do you claim the new security measures are working or do you say since it hasn't happened again then it was just a fluke and you won't be robbed again? After all you can't prove your house was targeted again, why keep the security? "
Cogito wrote on Apr 6, 2009 8:12 AM:
onelastthing wrote on Apr 6, 2009 7:05 AM:
" So, Brian, you are unaware of a single terrorist attack thwarted by the Patriot Act, yet you know of thousands of people alive because of it? And this after you said you knew of "many".
Brian, you're a moron. "
-No, I am unaware of a specific terrorist attack
thwarted because of coersion or torture.
But I am sure it has happened. And there are indeed thousands of people alive today because the Patriot Act has thwarted terrorist attacks.
Cogito wrote on Apr 5, 2009 10:25 PM:
" Lodian, we, as citizens, do not have the right to know what our government is doing where our national security is at stake. Some things need to be kept black.
-This is exactly what I'm talking about. "
Lodian wrote on Apr 6, 2009 12:04 AM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 5, 2009 10:25 PM:
Lodian wrote on Apr 5, 2009 8:46 PM:
About what exactly? "
Lodian wrote on Apr 5, 2009 8:43 PM:
If you were to ever get hauled off to Gitmo you had better hope the people doin' the haulin' give a "rats a$$" about your rights. "
Cogito wrote on Apr 5, 2009 8:41 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 5, 2009 8:40 PM:
Lodian wrote on Apr 5, 2009 8:12 PM:
" So, Brian, you are unaware of a single terrorist attack thwarted by the Patriot Act, yet you know of thousands of people alive because of it? And this after you said you knew of "many".
Brian, you're a moron. "
LOL! "
Cogito wrote on Apr 5, 2009 7:22 PM:
sam wrote on Apr 5, 2009 7:00 PM:
I went to the University of Santa Clara. My freshman year we had a concert in the cafeteria with a band I had never heard of ... "Buffalo Springfield".
I became an instant fan. I still remember sitting on the floor 10 feet from them loving every song they sang.
Thanks for the memories !!! You too Gator ! "
Cogito wrote on Apr 5, 2009 6:24 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 5, 2009 6:21 PM:
Robb wrote on Apr 5, 2009 4:04 PM:
Robb wrote on Apr 5, 2009 3:59 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 5, 2009 12:45 PM:
Brian, you're a moron. "
onelastthing wrote on Apr 5, 2009 10:25 AM:
Brian, aren't you EVER repulsed by the taste of crap in your mouth?
-Yes,
When I speak your name it does make me gag. :~ :) "
Gator wrote on Apr 5, 2009 8:56 AM:
When its dark and your Demons come, what do you see?? (Hannibal lector)
that seems to fit some on these blogs!!! "
onelastthing wrote on Apr 5, 2009 8:26 AM:
danielh wrote on Apr 5, 2009 12:02 AM:
Do you have an analog-digital decoder box so that you can talk to Homeland Security from the privacy of your own living room?
What kind of people do you associate with?
Hmmmm. Just wondering. If you answered any of these questions wrong, someone might want to turn you in. "
onelastthing wrote on Apr 4, 2009 5:05 PM:
November 13, 2007
U.S. Thwarts 19 Terrorist Attacks Against America Since 9/11
-Now, If some subhuman (terrorist) was tortured to prevent some of these attacks then so be it. It is highly likely that it was a terrorist tortured then a normal person. "
onelastthing wrote on Apr 4, 2009 4:46 PM:
onelastthing wrote on Apr 4, 2009 4:43 PM:
" onelastthing: If you don't mind if they are denied any rights, then you wouldn't mind if they come into your house and steal both yourself and your family and take them to Guantanamo Bay.
But you're not a terrorist, you say?
Well, suppose they say you are.
Some of the constitutional rights that that you don't give a rats a$$ about involve your right to security of your home, a right to trial by jury, and absolutely, habeas corpus. "
-Danielh, if I was STUPID enough to be a terrorist I wouldn't expect anyone to treat me fairly. I can't think of a more irrational thing to do than blow yourself up in the name of Allah. "
onelastthing wrote on Apr 4, 2009 4:36 PM:
onelastthing wrote on Apr 4, 2009 4:27 PM:
I'm not surprised Billy Rubin doesn't agree with me. He insists that I produce evidence that terrorist attacks have been thwarted because we've put terrorists under extreme pressure and denied them rights. If I had that information I would be under a witness protection program. So, to use common sense, what Billy is lacking, one can conclude that terrorist attacks have been thwarted. It's sickening that Billy would want to grant these subhumans the same rights as the rest of us if it was suspected they had crucial information about an attack. "
Billy Rubin wrote on Apr 4, 2009 11:05 AM:
Brian, aren't you EVER repulsed by the taste of crap in your mouth? Can you name some examples of the "many terrorist attacks [that] have been thwarted"??
Is it even possible for you to tell the truth anymore? "
danielh wrote on Apr 4, 2009 9:56 AM:
Don't you think there might be a slight chance that the American constitution has anything to do with the reason America was created?
Now you don't give a rat's a$$ about it anymore. "
danielh wrote on Apr 4, 2009 9:54 AM:
But you're not a terrorist, you say?
Well, suppose they say you are.
Some of the constitutional rights that that you don't give a rats a$$ about involve your right to security of your home, a right to trial by jury, and absolutely, habeas corpus. "
Cogito wrote on Apr 4, 2009 7:43 AM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 4, 2009 7:42 AM:
jeff wrote on Apr 4, 2009 7:41 AM:
onelastthing wrote on Apr 4, 2009 7:09 AM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 3, 2009 11:07 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 3, 2009 11:04 PM:
jeff wrote on Apr 3, 2009 9:45 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 3, 2009 9:30 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 3, 2009 9:23 PM:
Lodian wrote on Apr 3, 2009 3:33 PM:
Gator wrote on Apr 3, 2009 2:26 PM:
double for the internet the source, of dis-information "
Gator wrote on Apr 3, 2009 2:22 PM:
of their ownMotorcycle helmet laws go the same. It has been reported that every head
Injury cost the tax payers 17,000 per case per year. Idaho you pay a big tax on liquor and
the only place you can by the hard stuff is in State run Liquor stores. Its plain to see you
have people who are to stupid to take care of them selves and the public wants more and
more services, being there is no free lunch, guess who pays the freightNo there is no money for nuthin and chicks for free, only in your dreams!! "
wtf wrote on Apr 3, 2009 11:06 AM:
Put it this way, tobacco that used to cost about 18.00 a pound now costs about 44.00 a pound; and all that extra "cost" is a TAX while the farmers get only about 2.00 a pound.
Like I said, there would probably be a lot of screaming and yelling if someone's Carl's Jr. six dollar burger went up to 30.00 - not including the fries and soda; yet it's crap like this that passes as "food" and is fed to kids.
Or how about a bottle of 35.00 wine going up to around 60.00?
And remember, not a peep was said about this in the MSM or even the internet until it was a done deal.
So imagine you wanted burger for lunch and cruise to Carl's Jr., order up your six dollar burger only to find at the check out window, it now costs you 30.00. "
wtf wrote on Apr 3, 2009 10:59 AM:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/16/daily-show-fox-knowledge/
And this is, as I said, an ongoing problem. The above report was done in 2007, the following was done in 2003.
Study shows Fox News viewers misinformed
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/714.html
And Gator's right about getting involved. On the link to Ron Paul's update on H.R. 1207 regarding auditing the Federal Reserve, there is a link to contact your congresscritter to support this. "
wtf wrote on Apr 3, 2009 10:54 AM:
They're going under for the simple fact that people don't like being lied to.
"...Cable news top 5 rated shows, all on Fox. When it comes to propaganda, the left is losing miserably."
But the "right's" propaganda machine is in full swing. LOL! Actually, putting FAUX snooze as allegedly having 5 top rated shows is propaganda in itself. FAUX's parent company, News Corps, has been in steady DECLINE. ;)
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=NWS#symbol=NWS;range=5y
Again, the reason is people don't like being lied to; that is, after they figure out that's what is going on. "
Gator wrote on Apr 3, 2009 10:42 AM:
because of unified e-mails and phone calls. Politicians see 40-50% Voter
turn out and laugh, they feel folks just dont care!! If we could produce a
solid 80-90% turn out they would pay attention. The same goes if some of
these clowns were recalled. But the way we are that idea is just pie in the sky!!! The Iraqi voters have a better turn out than we do, that should embarrass the H*** out of us "
Cogito wrote on Apr 3, 2009 9:40 AM:
Gator wrote on Apr 3, 2009 9:33 AM:
Sack Lazy A**. Shutting off the crocodile tears and do something. When is the last time you wrote your Senator, Congressman at both the state and federal level, e-mail, phone and pay a visit to their local officesPolitics
begin at the local level and flows to the top. People cant get that into their heads then the song will remain the same. As for Conspiracy theories that is
what they are, Just so much Bull S*** for fools and morons to believe in "
Cogito wrote on Apr 3, 2009 8:52 AM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 3, 2009 8:37 AM:
danielh wrote on Apr 3, 2009 7:59 AM:
wtf wrote on Apr 3, 2009 7:33 AM:
Ron Paul is gaining some support in Congress for H.R. 1207; his bill to Audit the Fed.
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/campaigns/hr1207.php "
wtf wrote on Apr 3, 2009 7:31 AM:
Missouri Apologizes to Paul, Barr & Baldwin Over MIAC Report
http://www.infowars.com/missouri-apologizes-to-paul-barr-baldwin-over-miac-report/
How about a little unconstitutional taxation without representation? I'm talking about the over 2,000% increase on RYO tobacco and other smoking products passed on April Fool's Day.
http://www.star-telegram.com/238/story/1271194.html
Make sure to look at the table about half way down. The irony is this is supposed to be for "the children"
What!?
Then how come Twinkies, McDonald's, Taco Bell, and all the other garbage that passes as "food" and fed to kids didn't go up over 2,000%? Or why not alcohol going up over 2,000%?
I mean since these clowns aren't following the Constitution anyway.
Oh! That's right! It's a bunch of lard-assed drunk politicians who are doing this for "the children" LOL! "
wtf wrote on Apr 3, 2009 7:26 AM:
danielh wrote on Apr 2, 2009 8:22 PM:
"In fact, I think some of them were innocent."
You're right. About 98% of alleged foreign "terrorists" have had charges against them dropped.
While Leonard wrote on Apr 2, 2009 8:23 PM:
"That said, US citizens have been the victims of these abuses in repeated instances."
You're right, too. Just recently, patriots and those who supported Ron Paul and Bob Barr were listed in a Missouri report as "homegrown terrorists" ;)
Secret State Police Report: Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, Libertarians are Terrorists
http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/ "
danielh wrote on Apr 2, 2009 8:23 PM:
If they are POW's, then they deserve to be declared as such, and held accountable as such.
If they are not POW's, then they deserve rights of habeas corpus and a fair public trial. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 2, 2009 8:23 PM:
" Leonard, do I need to remind you that our constitution only applies to US citizens.
First of all, the Supreme Court has ruled repeatedly that the right of habeas corpus applies not just to citizens.
That said, US citizens have been the victims of these abuses in repeated instances. "
danielh wrote on Apr 2, 2009 8:22 PM:
Without a public trial, with a right to counsel, how do we know that they are guilty?
In fact, I think some of them were innocent. "
Cogito wrote on Apr 2, 2009 7:07 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 2, 2009 6:53 PM:
danielh wrote on Apr 2, 2009 5:32 PM:
If I had to dig, I could probably find such a policy written in to the Statutes at Large established in the 1800's, or earlier.
The law of the land applies to everybody that walks on it, regardlesss if they are US citizen or not. "
danielh wrote on Apr 2, 2009 5:17 PM:
Cogito wrote on Apr 2, 2009 4:40 PM:
danielh wrote on Apr 2, 2009 11:06 AM:
I saw a video recording of JFK talking about the banking system, with talk about converting to congressional or US Treasury notes, and I was astonished that a living president could get away with those words. "
danielh wrote on Apr 2, 2009 9:56 AM:
D.C. has 64 square miles, don't you know? It was once 100 square miles, but Virginia had a border dispute with D.C. "
Gator wrote on Apr 2, 2009 9:49 AM:
Is a nation who is afraid of its people. John F Kennedy!!! "
Gator wrote on Apr 2, 2009 9:42 AM:
most but not all after they vote have nothing to do with our government.. Business is the
same we toss the proxy ballot in the can or dont pay any attention to stockholder meetings which is where the CEO and their board are held accountable and sometimes fired!! There is arrogance at both levels and it needs to be cut down to size, Just complaining wont get it done, Write letters, e-mail and use the phone, get their attention!
AIG was bad enough but the CEO of J.P. Morgan/Chase couldnt understand why the
Public is so angry and in the next breath he brags about ordering 2 new Gulfstream Jets
For 130 million and building a new Hanger for 7 million. That is arrogance "
danielh wrote on Apr 2, 2009 9:39 AM:
Leonard wrote on Apr 2, 2009 9:24 AM:
This is probably the one issue (other than guns) that I actually agree with Clarence Thomas on, so that says a lot! "
Leonard wrote on Apr 2, 2009 9:23 AM:
Frankly, the Constitution is taking so many hits these days that one has to pick ones battles. "
Cogito wrote on Apr 2, 2009 7:39 AM:
Leonard wrote on Apr 2, 2009 5:50 AM:
What I am saying is that campaigning for AIG millionaires to keep their bonuses will prove to be about as popular as fighting to insure that Al Queda members are mirandized. "
Leonard wrote on Apr 2, 2009 5:47 AM:
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