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Talk of prophets and the future of a nation


Friday, March 13, 2009 11:06 PM PDT

I watch as history repeats what an older generation has already seen and knows. The future brings World War III; the past brought World War I and World War II.

Mankind is wanting, and now. Those in power are using this to control the people through what is called government. George Washington, a president who refused to lie, had an angel tell him this nation's future. Yes, Washington's vision (or prophet's statement) is documented. Much has already happened.

Three things remain: A red cloud will cover this nation (socialism or communism has been described as a red cloud); the government will take over banks and manufacturing corporations (socialism); and a light of a thousand suns will cover a nation (a description of the nation's first nuclear explosion). Yes, then the country will rebuild itself.

A prophet is one who makes a statement — past, present or future. I trust I will not be stoned to death, but give readers a reason to read, search and think.

Oskar Johansen
Lodi

Reader Feedback

Lodian wrote on Mar 20, 2009 9:42 PM:

" commonsense1: I don't know why you think Obama is a prophet that will make our lives seem like heaven. "

commonsense1 wrote on Mar 20, 2009 6:10 PM:

" Who is a better prophet than Obama who will make our lives seem like heaven? "

Billy Rubin wrote on Mar 19, 2009 9:58 PM:

" I bet your soap twin even has gold fringe on his flag. "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2009 7:19 PM:

" Billy Rubin: My soap twin is wonderful.

I'll get the last laugh.

Enjoy it now. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Mar 19, 2009 6:06 PM:

" No, danielh, that was a worthless imaginary question; it and your subsequent post were calculated to deflect.

You have no more interest in discussing the topic of this letter, or your halucinations, than your funny soap twin Rhodie (speaking of soap twins, a quick digression for Brian - does anyone remember those big double bars of Ivory soap you used to have to break in half?).

Anyway, danielh, you'll just have to keep running up to slow-moving strangers in the street if you want new victims to listen while you go prattling on about constitutional bankruptcy and bills-accepted-as-payment, along with your idiotic birth certificate/bank note meme. I've heard enough and won't drop that coin in your nickelodeon.

This blog is about the lie of Washington's vision of angels; can you put your conspiracy theories away for just five minutes? "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2009 2:45 PM:

" Billy Rubin: It was a think question. I see you're not interested. "

Gator wrote on Mar 19, 2009 1:25 PM:

" Here all along I just thought it grew hair on the Palm of your hand, I didnt know it messed with your Neurons too "

Billy Rubin wrote on Mar 19, 2009 10:07 AM:

" I don't allow crazy people anywhere near my neurons. "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2009 9:15 AM:

" Billy Rubin: FYI: Anyone that crumbles a ticket in the courtroom is going to lose.

Look down below. Can you see anything unusual that might be a better way to win?

This is a test to see how well your neurons are connected. "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2009 9:13 AM:

" Billy Rubin:
I am:

neither republican nor democrat, nor any other political party, not even a voter.

neither liberal, conservative nor any of the in-between or over the edge words.

I am a law merchant, and a Secured Party creditor, not a DEBTOR. If you want to know what these are, we'd probably have to talk somewhere.

I believe that I can create funds with my ink pen, although I have never done so, intentionally, and stood behind it. "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2009 9:07 AM:

" Billy Rubin: You wrote, "accept it for value."

Now you really hit a hot button.

First: It is the signature that creates funds, not words.

Where did you get that from? Not from me, I hope. If I wrote it, I hope that I was being satirical.

If I did write it, I take back anything that was serious.

That is a hot controversial topic, and I'm not sure that the people that use it really know what it is for.

Some people pay their bills with it.
Others say that you can't pay your bills with it, unless it is accompanie by a payment.

I am yet to hear a definitive, clear explanation for how it works.

One thing I know for sure: If it works every time, and I that that it does, the funds are stolen. The merchant is mad because they expected to be paid twice, and the A4V signature takes away one of the payments. "

danielh wrote on Mar 19, 2009 9:01 AM:

" Billy Rubin: Nope. Not liberal either.

Simple: Two kids are playing a game. In the game, the kids make up names for each other.

I'm not playing. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Mar 18, 2009 10:30 PM:

" No need to explain, danielh, from now on you'll be a flaming liberal in my book. No more conservatism for you.

And, as far as your traveling citation, I think you should stride into that courtroom and bounce that crumpled-up ticket right off the judge's face before turning on your heel and striding right back out again. Who do those low-life cops think they're ticketing, anyway?! You tell 'em, Hutchins. You tell them what to kiss and whose to kiss, then you just take your leave of them and leave 'em gaping as you walk away.

And just write on that warrant that you accept it for value and wait for the look on their faces... and who will be laughin' then, Danny Boy? You will. "

Rhodie wrote on Mar 18, 2009 9:11 PM:

" danielh:

No, right now I have granite counters and stone tiles in the kitchen so no lye in there. And the garage is either for my wifes car or the family bikes so no room for a soap factory there.

I think one of my favorite Glycerin soaps was one where I cut Loofahs and formed the soaps around it. The soap was a moisturizer with peppermint/lemon essential oil. Worked great on the skin and picked you right up in the morning.

But I like Lye based soaps better. Last longer. "

danielh wrote on Mar 18, 2009 8:39 PM:

" Billy Rubin: I have seen an author "Marrs" (or was it Maars?) who traced the Bush legacy into Nazi Germany.

I was "insulted" by association with "conservatives," because the general class of conservatives that I have observed spend a lot of time saying they are conservative, and then they support the George Bush administration.

8 years ago, I heard with my own ears a living man who claimed to be conservative exclaimed that George Bush's moral standards represented the highest moral standards of conduct, unsurpassed by any standard of comparison.

Then I don't understand how a group of citizens who claim to be the highest of moral conduct can sit around a room in a meeting and exclaim that their government has got to be re-elected or the whole country was going to disintegrate into oblivion.

Nope. Please don't group me with such blindness. "

danielh wrote on Mar 18, 2009 8:30 PM:

" Rhodie: Do you have a work area now where you can afford to spill the lye, if you do so accidentally? "

Rhodie wrote on Mar 18, 2009 7:23 PM:

" danielh:

I had a real nice recipe for morning and night soaps using essential oils to wake or calm as needed.

I haven't made soaps in a few years, didn't want to risk the new floor with the lye;(

When we finally get some acres out in the country I'm getting my own craft shed and am thinking about renewing my soap addiction.

Sorry for the digression, I just like talking to other soap makers. "

danielh wrote on Mar 18, 2009 6:33 PM:

" Billy Rubin: Don't laugh. The lawyers in a nearby state are suffering from billions of dollars of liens.

These lawyers are having troubles getting credit to buy things for their family. Life is hard for everybody. "

danielh wrote on Mar 18, 2009 6:31 PM:

" Rhodie: Everything I did was with lye, and vegetable oil. I always tried to get raw, unprocessed vegetable fat. I did accurate measurements so that I could get consistent results and control it as well.

The product was superior, but the general public turns up their nose at a wonderful work of art, so I got sick of giving the presentation to the wrong people. "

danielh wrote on Mar 18, 2009 6:26 PM:

" Billy Rubin: I don't know what is a "Christian Conservative."

Should I just pay a $128 travelling citation, or should I play with them a little bit? "

Billy Rubin wrote on Mar 18, 2009 10:12 AM:

" DanielH, I will take your reprimand under advisement. From someone who claimed to be immune to laws, able to commit any crime and walk out of any courtroom a free man, your opinion is certainly something to consider and your retribution would be, I am sure, terrifying.

I understand your feelings of insult and outrage after inferring my unkind cut, "Christian Conservatives", was directed at you. On reflection, calling anyone a Christian Conservative is unduly harsh and I apologise to you directly and peripherally. "

Rhodie wrote on Mar 18, 2009 9:56 AM:

" danielh: Did you did you use Lye with your soap or glycerin?

I use to manage a craft shop where we did soap supplies and got into it pretty heavily as well, along with candle makeing, aroma therapy and bee keeping. "

danielh wrote on Mar 18, 2009 8:25 AM:

" Billy Rubin: It is childish to call people names.

Let’s get something straight. I am NOT a "conservative."

How would you like it if I said that you were a member of a power group that destroys America?

The soap thing is OK, because I used to make soap, even though I haven’t entered into the public with my soap for sale for 2 years. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Mar 17, 2009 6:16 PM:

" I'm probably the only person in Lodi to miss the wonderful ads on the right side of this page!

As a public service, I present:

http://the-end.com/2008GodsFinalWitness/?gclid=CJq2_-ikq5kCFRMUagodNjMcJA

The Christian conservatives will get positively teary-eyed over the many, many hours, days - even weeks - of enjoyment, reading and re-reading, again and again of the coming end times for America. Don't waste your time imagining your own hideous end to this once great nation, read about it! Get it from the source! Get it from someone who actually KNOWS! Get your copy and make your plans for oblivion today!

And for the "Streeties" among us, read the one about the end of the world in 2012! This world is too good to last! "

Billy Rubin wrote on Mar 17, 2009 12:38 PM:

" Oh! Mercy! More ravaging soap maker justice meted out in the form of absolutely stunning repartee.

Woe is me, when will I ever learn that the conservatives are a frightening force to be reckoned with in matters of debates. I'll not soon forget this lashing. "

danielh wrote on Mar 17, 2009 8:20 AM:

" Billy Rubin: I suggest you keep watching the television, and don't run out of beer. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Mar 16, 2009 3:03 PM:

" Then talk, danielh. No one is preventing you from speaking and only you prevent yourself from reading. You are captain of your little ship.

I'd love to hear more about how you believe angels flitted or hovered or dropped like rocks from heaven or space and spoke to George Washington; and why you know it to be true because it was written in ink.

There is an undeniable continuity in your blogs concerning your profound preoccupation with documents and printed matter.

I'm curious, if someone were to now, in 2009, make a claim that Teddy Roosevelt had a visit from angels during his Spanish war days in Cuba - and the account of it was published (in ink), would you believe it? Is it the ink or the printing/publishing? Or is it the angels/heaven tie-in? "

danielh wrote on Mar 16, 2009 12:56 PM:

" Billy Rubin: If you want to talk about solutions to America's problems, I'd be happy to talk. "

danielh wrote on Mar 16, 2009 12:55 PM:

" Billy Rubin: What is the most important problem that besets America?

I say that if we can cure the banking problem in America, all corruptions will tumble down like dominos, and America will be free.

We are arguing. (only when I have time to spare).
You write things that I don't read.
What's most important here?

I say that the most important problem is banking.

Not war, not the corporate officer Barrak Obama, but banking.

I thought this article was interesting, but it focuses on consequences.

These consequences are directly related to banking. "

danielh wrote on Mar 16, 2009 12:51 PM:

" Billy Rubin: I wouldn't celebrate too much if I were you.

I didn't have the concentration or the time to comprehend what you wrote. "

wtf wrote on Mar 16, 2009 12:15 PM:

" OK. I'll bite. Uuuuhhhh, what **about** Frank Zappa, Gator? "

Billy Rubin wrote on Mar 16, 2009 9:28 AM:

" danielh - Oooo, brilliant smackdown on your part. Dude, that's a ruthless check-MATE!

Of course, since we all know that Obama made no such claim, your wit was sort of an inappropriate misfire, but you do get full credit for fulfilling MY prophesy of your reaction. "

Gator wrote on Mar 16, 2009 9:02 AM:

" Wtf, Carlin was a brilliant comedian and the optimum word being Was he became a
very bitter un-funny old man. And what can one say about Frank Zappa???? "

wtf wrote on Mar 16, 2009 7:47 AM:

" Nextel if you download the hi def version George Carlin's audio is still in the video. It's his piece called "The American Dream" "

Nextel wrote on Mar 15, 2009 10:00 PM:

" WTF, interesting video. Planned chaos will always be the best distraction for the complacent. The Government loves a dumbed down, Flag waving America that's willing to chase ghost's and conspiracy theories while they fleece our Treasury and advance an ideology. That's too bad Youtube cut the audio on George Carlin at the end of part 1. I'm pretty sure that was one of his last stand up bit's that he did on technology that was brilliantly funny. I sure miss George Carlin and all his funny takes on words and life. "

wtf wrote on Mar 15, 2009 7:49 PM:

" Well, Gator, it appears that you didn't bother watching the video before weighing in with your "insightful" comment. LOL! "

Gator wrote on Mar 15, 2009 6:23 PM:

" The Crow House, one dot of LSD to many!! "

danielh wrote on Mar 15, 2009 3:08 PM:

" Billy Rubin: Disrespectfully, I don't care what Obama says. "

wtf wrote on Mar 15, 2009 1:45 PM:

" The Big Picture Final Cut - Video

This is another excellent video. On the link below is a link to a Download in Hi Definition. They really did an excellent job on this and Hi Def is the best way to watch this visually and for audio.

http://www.thecrowhouse.com/bigpic.html "

Billy Rubin wrote on Mar 15, 2009 11:20 AM:

" danielh, publishing nonsense in ink does not turn it into fact.

In actual historical fact, there is no contemporary quote from Washington's lips or his pen (and he was a prolific writer) documenting a "vision of angels".

Fables of a vision were reported by one obscure individual and not published until more than 100 years after the supposed "incident".

Do you think if it was true people would have spoken of it before a century had passed? Or, can you envision the possibility that the "prophesy" was written post facto by someone other than Washinton? And that possibly George Washington was not visited by actual supernatural magical heavenly angels dispatched from the clouds or space or Mount Olympus or wherever they are from...

If it gives you comfort to imagine ghosts and other-worldly spirits visiting and advising our presidents that's your business, but in the clear light of day it is foolishness to believe such a fantasy to be true.

Would you be pre-disposed to believe every word if it was reported Obama claimed to have been visited by actual angels in the oval office? "

danielh wrote on Mar 15, 2009 9:27 AM:

" voter: "George Washington's Vision" was a publication. I can always concede to a possibility of there being a ghost writer; but, the date of publication is marked on the calendar and the article is in ink. "

voter wrote on Mar 15, 2009 8:50 AM:

" daniel, the point I was making is that "the vision" the writer is referring to can not be attributed to George Washington. That was a hoax. "

danielh wrote on Mar 15, 2009 7:46 AM:

" voter: In prophesy, there is often a reference to more than one future event. If one of the events has come true already, we can check the prophesy for accuracy to gauge the authenticity of the prophesy.

For example, the prophesy of Daniel in the bible (not me) predicts (what is the name again(?) - it's early in the morning) Palm Sunday (?)

Christ was rejected on Palm Sunday.

The prophesy of Daniel makes reference to an event that occurred 63x7 = 441 years before Palm Sunday. It hits the date exactly to the day.

I think George Washington's vision predicts several events that have already come true. "

wtf wrote on Mar 14, 2009 10:26 PM:

" I have to agree with Michael Rivero at WRH (see daniel's link at 2:49 pm).

Regardless of who had this vision, it seems to be pretty on the mark; especially the last one given our current situation in the U.S.

Here's an interesting video to watch.

The Obama Deception

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756

Good couple of articles:

Why the Patient Is Not Getting Better: Government is Strengthening the Parasite and Poisoning the Real Economy

http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2009/03/why-patient-is-not-getting-better.html


http://www.infowars.com/police-trained-nationwide-that-informed-americans-are-domestic-terrorists/


Another good video (actually three):

http://blog.indecisionforever.com/2009/03/13/jon-stewart-and-jim-cramer-the-extended-daily-show-interview/ "

Rhodie wrote on Mar 14, 2009 6:33 PM:

" Thanks Voter, that is a better and more thorough accounting of the origins of the vision that Snoopes did not go into. "

voter wrote on Mar 14, 2009 6:19 PM:

" Rhodie, there are lots of other refutations of the vision story on the internet with links to source material. This one is as good as any:
http://boston1775.blogspot.com/2006/12/truth-of-washingtons-vision.html "

Rhodie wrote on Mar 14, 2009 6:02 PM:

" Voter, Snoopes only source to counter the vision of Washington is Pythia Peay. "Pythia" is from greek mythology as an oracle.

I couldn't find any real information about who Pythia Peay was, only her writings which are strongly New age and have strong Eastern influences as well as strong Feminist beliefs. While I understand these credentials may not mean much to you I read her conclusions about Washington with a skeptics eye since I have not found a second source which casts relyable doubt the vision.

Of course this comes from someone that believes in prophesy so my own comments can be viewed with skepticly. I just wanted to point out for anyone who didn't go to the link that there was only one source listed and it could be a biased source. "

voter wrote on Mar 14, 2009 5:11 PM:

" It looks like any notion of G. Washington having some sort of prophetic vision or making such a statement is a myth.

http://www.snopes.com/language/document/vision.asp "

Patricia wrote on Mar 14, 2009 4:45 PM:

" LodiSafeway: IE 7 too. It's clear now. Don't know what the problem was.


danielh wrote on Mar 14, 2009 10:32 AM:

" peppier2, Patricia: I don't think George Washington's vision is in conflict with Christ's gifts and his message in any way.

danielh--didn't say it was. "

Gator wrote on Mar 14, 2009 3:19 PM:

" Its hard to let this slide, December 22, 1962 fresh out of the Navy and working for PG&E
(I worked 2 pm to 11:30) I was wrapping my Christmas present to me, a dozen Duck decoys.. For the past few months a (prophet) was proclaiming the end of the world on the 22nd . It was very quite, I just happened to look up and every cabinet door opened and every thing crashed to the floor, I was knocked down and crawled out into the car port
You could actually see the side walk and street rolling and our neighbors chimney hit the
Street. I thought it was the end, oops still here. 1964 they had what was called a thousand
Year flood, still here.. As they say you never hear the one that gets you Live each day
With Courage and know where to draw the line!!! "

danielh wrote on Mar 14, 2009 2:50 PM:

" I'm impressed that somebody else found this amazing prophesy or prayer.

I don't know who is Oskar Johansen, but I would like to meet him. "

danielh wrote on Mar 14, 2009 2:49 PM:

" http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/wash.html "

danielh wrote on Mar 14, 2009 2:44 PM:

" Billy Rubin: The prophesy was published in ink. It was a newspaper out of Ohio. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Mar 14, 2009 1:46 PM:

" Nonsense.

There isn't a bit of evidence Washington ever made such a ridiculous claim. "

danielh wrote on Mar 14, 2009 10:49 AM:

" If we parrot Christ's message, without living them, our words would be empty.

George Washington was very gifted, and it is our responsibility to see and understand his message when it is offered to us. "

danielh wrote on Mar 14, 2009 10:32 AM:

" peppier2, Patricia: I don't think George Washington's vision is in conflict with Christ's gifts and his message in any way. "

danielh wrote on Mar 14, 2009 10:30 AM:

" Oskar Johansen: Thank you. I have seen George Washington's vision. It was published in a newspaper in Ohio.

What I like about it is that it truly ends with a happy ending, but not before Americans suffer substantial disasters as a consequence for their blindness.

Washington's great vision is authenticated by a description of the Civil War before it happened. "

voter wrote on Mar 14, 2009 8:15 AM:

" Oskar, are you proclaiming yourself a prophet? "

LodiSafeway wrote on Mar 14, 2009 5:59 AM:

" Patricia - what Internet browser are you using? My Explorer 7 looks just fine. Or your internal settings may need adjusting. "

Patricia wrote on Mar 14, 2009 4:32 AM:

" "Fruition."

LNS: What's with the ugly new font? and layout is goofy? Is that a glitch? Or my computer. "

Patricia wrote on Mar 14, 2009 4:26 AM:

" Yes, peppier2, Jesus is peace. All we have to fear, is fear itself.

Mr. Johansen, the proof of a prophet's words will eventually come to fruitation, one way or another. For this nation, I believe, the only hope is faith, prayer, and trust in God. "

peppier2 wrote on Mar 14, 2009 2:48 AM:

" Why guess on what's going to happen? The Bible tells us Jesus will come and make all things new. I call that Good News.
Let's look to Him who created all things and we will have peace. "

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