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Why should my generation pay for the greed of politicians and big business?


Tuesday, March 3, 2009 6:11 AM PST

For the last month I have been eating, sleeping and breathing our state and national economy crisis and I truly believe it made me ill.

My evidence is that I was sick in the beginning of the month, went on vacation, was fine, returned and felt awful again.

My vacation took me out of the world of Internet news updates, talk radio, newspaper headlines and TV screen tickers. I didn't think about it at all and I recovered almost immediately.

I returned a week later and two days back into my routine, here came another headache.

Wondering what was making me feel this way, I started really looking within and feeling emotions as they happened, examining them, questioning why they were there.

It seemed that whenever someone started talking about the economy or government, whether it was in passing or directly, I would become so angry, so enraged, that I began to get headaches.

So upon reflection, I finally realized that I have such strong convictions as it pertains to what's going on in America right now, it's no wonder I'm making myself sick with worry and anger.

The economy: I'll admit, I was crossing my fingers that our new president might have a good plan to deal with America's multi-trillion dollar debt. But to suggest spending more? Seriously? Billions more?!

I have a great idea, how about we fire everyone on Capitol Hill who had anything to do with outrageous spending in the last six years, from approving spending, to spending money themselves. From private limousines, golden toilets, etc. Why don't we have an audit of the government? Because it's pretty obvious even presidentially-backed candidates for spots in the White House have issues paying taxes — but taking — is no problem.

Really, it just boggles my mind as to why our hard-earned dollars are being spent to assist those who failed in the game of capitalism. Big business is big business in America so that they may have the freedom to succeed and to fail, much like homeowners have the freedom to fail.

It's obvious that has happened on a very large scale. Why is it up to my generation and my kids and probably their kids' to worry about it and pay it back? Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

Because such a big group of Americans are failures when it comes to handling money, the ones who are success-stories or who maintain a responsibility with finances get penalized.

Do I feel bad for those people losing their homes? Of course. But it could have been avoided altogether had the homeowners used good, fiscally sane judgment.

I'm sure there are a few exception stories out there, but in reality, everyone and their dog turned into real estate agents a few years ago. It was as if everyone was approved to buy a house; everyone could take part in the American dream; everyone had the freedom to succeed and to fail.

My loyalty to big-businesses America went out the door when I was very young and discovered that the majority of U.S. big businesses outsourced thousands of jobs or hired illegal immigrants to perform slave labor at little to no expense.

CEOs earned millions in bonuses a year, profits continued to climb, shareholders continued to smile.

And that's what it really boils down to isn't it? Profits. Not heart, not human feelings, but profits. Well now that the balloon has popped and the profits game has pulled the "Go to jail!" card, what do you all have to say for yourselves?

Greed in this country has literally removed our presence as an international dominance. Now we're just printing money so that we have it. Backed by the "good faith" of the U.S. government. Psshh, spare me!

California decides it will raise taxes again to try to offset its gaping deficit. I seem to recall a certain Hollywood superstar turned joke of a politician who ran on a campaign promise that taxes wouldn't be raised. As he put it, "It isn't the people of Caleefornia's fault."

Another lie.

What in God's name does it take before this state, this country, starts a revolution to be able to fire politicians and hire ones with just an ounce of morals, ethics and understanding of what our founding fathers spoke of in the first place?!

If we want real change, real accountability, it has to come from within.

Say it with me: "We the people ... "

Wade Heath of Lodi is a college student.

Reader Feedback

sam wrote on Mar 13, 2009 7:48 PM:

" Talk about greed, how about Madoff ?

Wow... and that dear sweet innocent wife who was the bookkeeper but knew nothing about the scam? However he and she had at least $823 million in private assets at the end of 2008.

Heck ya, she deserves to keep her share. (not)

Greed... it is a terrible disease. "

wtf wrote on Mar 9, 2009 6:18 PM:

" Wade, in case you're interested, Michael Rivero at WRH now has a nightly radio show on Liberty News Radio, Monday through Friday at 6:00 PM on the internet.

http://libertynewsradio.com/listen.php "

sam wrote on Mar 9, 2009 4:49 PM:

" Cog, I have to introduce you to my sister. She is older and loves the Endless Summer. (Remember that movie by Bruce Brown in the 60's ?)
SO she has a home on the Pacific coast for our summer and in Margaret River (for Australia's Summer). She is there now and is raving about their gorgeous fall weather and their grape harvest.

My point??? Margaret River is known for their vineyards and great wine. She does not rent her home out, but allows friends and family there all the time... even when she is not.

Next time she is here I will introduce you and your wife to her. If she likes you (what is not to like)... who knows... you may have a new "vineyard" escape.

Google Maragret River. Better yet I will email you some of the photos she just took of her back yard.

For a local escape (Cali)... go to Mendocino. They have great wine events this time of year to compliment their spectacular whale watching. "

wtf wrote on Mar 9, 2009 12:19 PM:

" Your Hard-Earned Money is Being Shipped to France, Germany and China

http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/ "

Cogito wrote on Mar 8, 2009 9:56 PM:

" Sam, I love spring, it's my favorite by far. Let's hope we get our retirement back too! "

Cogito wrote on Mar 8, 2009 9:55 PM:

" Sam, or anyone else, we're going on a wine excursion in the Napa valley for a few days. Any suggestions for some good places to visit, that don't charge you $50 per couple to taste their stuff, would be deeply appreciated. "

sam wrote on Mar 8, 2009 9:49 PM:

" wtf, I love this weather. The cherry trees are ready to explode and grape vines are not far behind.

Spring is a great season. It is a season bringing a new beginning.

I pray that we, as a country, come out of this economic mess stronger and more united. "

wtf wrote on Mar 8, 2009 8:45 PM:

" 2. In order to save our children from a future of debt, we will also end the tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of Americans.

He didn't say he'd raise their taxes, he just said he end the tax breaks this group received under Bush and the Reaganomic "trickle down" theory that obviously didn't work.

I don't see anything wrong with this approach.

I've also noticed that Obama seems to go along with the Bushian status quo; then he does something that gets that crowd squawking like a bunch of chickens. So he is very interesting to watch and I am curious as to what will come of all this.

For me, the fact the weather is warming and Spring is almost here, makes a lot of things easier to deal with. "

wtf wrote on Mar 8, 2009 8:43 PM:

" sam did you see Obama's State of the Union Address on February 24th?

Two things he said made points with me:

1. we will restore a sense of fairness and balance to our tax code by finally ending the tax breaks for corporations that ship our jobs overseas.

If shipping American jobs overseas, or hiring H1B visa workers or illegal aliens here in the U.S. is no longer a lucrative option, then the probability exists that more Americans will have good paying jobs. "

sam wrote on Mar 8, 2009 8:31 PM:

" wtf, I am watching Obama and his crew daily. I hate all this spending, but my graduate degree is in math, not economics. I would not wish this economy on any new president.

The one thing I love is that he is finally including the cost of our wars in our budget. Bush never did.

A trillion dollars? My favorite way to discribe the amount was one I heard on CNN. If you received a trillion dollars that day Jesus was born and spent ONE million a day, you would STILL have money to spend. "

wtf wrote on Mar 8, 2009 8:14 PM:

" What does a trillion dollars look like?

http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html

And sam, you're absolutely right. For better or worse, we have a new prez and it would be in America's best interests if Americans started working ***with*** each other rather than against each other.

But that doesn't mean we can't hold Obama's feet to the fire if goes Bushy on us. LOL! "

sam wrote on Mar 8, 2009 7:55 PM:

" BTW Stan, how is Mel ? "

sam wrote on Mar 8, 2009 7:52 PM:

" " Another gripe of mine is the Liberal/ Conservative Bull S***. going on! Get over it people!! Its called work together for the common good. The finger pointing reminds me of a bunch of five year olds."

Great post, Gator. "

wtf wrote on Mar 8, 2009 7:44 PM:

" Who is it benefiting? The American people or American corporations?

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4446.shtml


Bailout Plan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXznKV7rw7k&eurl=http://dailybail.com/home/2009/2/8/must-see-bailout-comedy-wanda-sykes-is-hilarious-explaining.html


RON PAUL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uQBUQBIFkc "

Gator wrote on Mar 8, 2009 7:14 PM:

" No Harm, No Foul!! "

wtf wrote on Mar 8, 2009 6:54 PM:

" Nextel, your post on Mar 8, 2009 6:25 PM was nicely said. I totally agree. "

Nextel wrote on Mar 8, 2009 6:25 PM:

" Stan, I'll take that as an olive branch and say let's move on. Everyday is a new day here on the LNS comment boards where we can chop it up, argue and move on to the next one. "

stantaves wrote on Mar 8, 2009 6:14 PM:

" You guys are funny; I was gone before you could feel the hot breeze coming from my backside. Yes it was a beautiful day. It was the kind of day that only comes along in a rare and wonderful fashion. I remember how special it could be growing-up in this town. And today I looked north into the horizon, and saw a clear blue that made me think "God ole mighty life is good... lucky us, the end has yet to come". Listen you silly boys, I've said my piece -- the politics, the economics, the morality. Here's the deal: you want to blog with me? then send a letter to the editor and tell him that the "letters" are way to liberal, and that they need more right wing rhetoric from Stan Taves. I promise you, I will respond in kind. "

Nextel wrote on Mar 8, 2009 6:07 PM:

" Gator, Here's another one I think You would appreciate. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a3_1233765334
It's of one of our Marines breaking it down for a group of Iraqi Security forces in training. Don't watch with the kid's around, many F-bombs being tossed around. These Iraqi's are cowards when it comes to fighting for they're own Country and future. "

Nextel wrote on Mar 8, 2009 5:54 PM:

" Gator, check out this site @ http://www.nedra.com/
The NEDRA stands for National Electric Drag Racing Association. This will get any gear head excited about our future with electric cars and trucks. Unbelievable torque with electric power!
Make sure You watch the video of John Weylands White Zombie turning 10 second 1/4 miles and the Killacycle running 375 volts with A123 systems cells. It's running a 7 second 1/4 mile @ 168 mph. The History Channel will be airing a special on these Guy's this month, Look for local listings. Electric is here and now and the best is yet to come Brother. "

Gator wrote on Mar 8, 2009 5:24 PM:

" Another gripe of mine is the Liberal/ Conservative Bull S***. going on! Get over it people!! Its called work together for the common good. The finger pointing reminds
me of a bunch of five year olds. A thought crossed my mind that Rush Limbaugh is a
pea from the same Pod as Al FrankenLimbaugh and his I Hope Obama fails well
Fatso if he does so do we.. Then again what would you expect from an EX junkie
This Country needs Cheer leaders not the gloom and doom junk coming from the MSM
The greatest generation must be spinning in their graves looking down on a bunch of whiners and girlie-menCowboy up!!!!! "

Gator wrote on Mar 8, 2009 5:07 PM:

" My point being was the internal combustion engine as we know it it on its last legs and
A small group of silicon Valley types have succeeded where the big 3 have failed. Bolivia
Seems to be the only country where lithium for electrical Batteries is common. That being
Said Bolivia is a very unfriendly country to out siders, as far as oil goes, it is on the wane
follow the link I provided and you can see where even the Gulf of Mexico is drying up.
also for every dollar we spend on middle eastern oil a small portion helps Kill American
Military personalWe have gone through seven past administrations with out a workable
Energy policy, big mistake. Now to Diesel powered cars VW introduced a car called Polo BlueMotion, it is powered by a 1.2L TDI three-cylinder with common rail injection and is
Cleaner running and faster than 90% of the four cylinders on the road to day and gets 76
MpgLastly we can build and sell our way out of our boondoggle with out wall street we just need to get off our A** and get it done "

Cogito wrote on Mar 8, 2009 3:19 PM:

" Gator, will you loan me $110,000.00 so I can get a Tesla car? Have you paid attention to all the strip mining going on in the world for the raw materials to make the batteries in all this "green" technology? Jimmy Carter wanted to be the first green president, and lessen our dependence on foreign oil. Yeah, look how far we've come. If it were a viable industry, it wouldn't need government money, people would gladly pay for it. "

Gator wrote on Mar 8, 2009 12:38 PM:

" Stanley, when it's dark and your demons
come, what do you see stan??? Don't forget you never hear the one that gets you!! "

Nextel wrote on Mar 8, 2009 11:10 AM:

" Stanley, I'm sorry tuff Guy that I don't have the time to argue with a jag off like You all day. Damn, so far Your gonna makes some boots out of someone and You want to get into a cage with me leaving me with a limp or twitch. That sounds pretty kinky to me, You been rollin with the Ted Haggard Christians out here in the valley? Get out and enjoy this beautiful day, I am. "

Gator wrote on Mar 8, 2009 11:00 AM:

" Hiding under your keyboard Stan??
:-)))))))) "

Gator wrote on Mar 8, 2009 9:29 AM:

" You know what they say Stan, Meth,not
even once!! you should have listened!!
:-))))) "

stantaves wrote on Mar 8, 2009 9:09 AM:

" You're no gator, you're a croc. Listen big gun man, you want to talk like a "pinko" then you're going to get slapped around like a "pinko". Counter my argument with some clarity and you might get some respect. You have your vision and I demonstrated how blurred it is. I know it's tough out there for your kind, and I have great empathy. But moreover I have "hope" that you will either find reason in your arguments or just be silent. Hang in there "gun man". "

Gator wrote on Mar 8, 2009 8:50 AM:

" The fact is we can build our way out of this!! In 2007 the United States produced Seven and one half trillion worth of goods. Making money like that will go a long way towards
solving our problems. The main goal is to produce more!! We could lead the world in
Nuclear power generation, solar development, wind power and electric carsMartin Eberhard the Developer of the Tesla Electric car fully believes in 30 years most of our
power will come from Thin Film Solar and most of the cars sold will be electric. At one
hundred and nine thousand each they are sold out through out the end of this year. They
are producing 20 a week. In 2010 they will introduce a full sized Sedan. Speaking of Thin
Film Solar PG&E is investing in a 10 Megawatt thin film power plant.. This country needs
to dump the doom and gloom attitude and get back to the we can do it. We need to fix it
our selves no one else is going to do it for us "

Cogito wrote on Mar 8, 2009 8:01 AM:

" Leonard, you may be right, but we need to do our best to get rid of deficits. Smaller government is the answer. "

Gator wrote on Mar 7, 2009 8:44 PM:

" Stanley~Boy!! are you full of your self, good thing no one else seems to impressed.. You should not go around hanging labels on someone you know nothing about, makes
you look really stupid and you dont really need any help there. Leonard says Im one of
the most conservative posters here, not really though I just call it as I see it, speaking of
That, Bush, Cheney, Bremer and Rumsfeld Blew Iraq ,Petraeus saved their A**!!!.. I know your kind Stanley Boy, you run the big bluff and run your mouth, but let someone
Call you on it, you would run like a scared rabbit!! Stanley boy!! FYI Im an independent
Voter leaning towards the Truman philosophy Card carrying member of the NRA and Im
armed to the teeth!!! That is miles from being liberal :-))))) "

stantaves wrote on Mar 7, 2009 5:45 PM:

" Sorry Gator, but I'm about to make nice pair of boots out you -- you'll finally look good, believe me. We changed direction in Iraq because panseys like you couldn't stomach the reality of Islam on Islam homocidal mania. Further more, if you leftists weren't so weak in the knees then Clinton would have made a stand after the '93 attack on the twin towers. Do you actually believe that Islam would try to take on a unified America -- you're dreaming. They attack because they see guys like you and believe they can take us. Thanks, and I'm sure every other person who has been sacrificed for you pathetic ideology wants to thank you too. "

Gator wrote on Mar 7, 2009 4:57 PM:

" Stantaves, Now here is a little FYI. Big mistake #1 we disbanded the Iraqi Army # 2 we let the looting take place. #3 Bremer ran rough shod in Baghdad which brought fighters
from all over the world to fight the American Soldiers and turn it into hell on Earth. At the
same time this was going on General Petraeus was in Mosul and had the place pacified.
he and his people met with leaders and drank Tea every day and treated them with respect
and in turn they had respect from the Iraqis. Now Baghdad was in flames and virtually
lost.. The Army moved Petraeus and Mosul went to hell in a hurry. The second battle for
Fallaujah the bulk of the fighters were Blond Haired blue eyed Chechnyan Fighters. The
only thing good was the unbelievable courage and skill of the American military. Iraq will
go down as a huge blunder and a war that should have never been fought. If you think for
A moment that Iran and Syria will let go of Iraq once we are gone, you need to go back into your cage and stay "

Gator wrote on Mar 7, 2009 4:23 PM:

" Stantaves, I would say my understanding of Geo~politics is vastly superior to yours, the
Only reasons the Russians were run out of Afghanistan were to fold, first had they just
taken on the Taliban they would have been treated as liberators, secondly we beat the Russian for the Afghans, the stinger missile being the key factor!! Just like Germans did
In Russia the Russian made the mistake of killing every thing in sight and it cost them.
I would have replied sooner but I went with a friend to shoot his .416 model 99 Barrett
The only reason we are in a semi good position in Iraq is because of our troops and General Petraeus, Bush, Rumsfeld, Paul Bremer and Dick Cheney did all the could to
Lose the war,Cheney even wanted Petraeus removed.. As for Drill baby Drill, king Oil is
On its way out.. Check out this link http://www.gravmag.com/oil.html I will lay odds
In 30 years no oil will be imported, the majority of the cars will be electric and the bulk
Of electrical power will come from thin film Solar "

stantaves wrote on Mar 7, 2009 2:30 PM:

" Where are you? I thought you were begging for more sludge filled discourse. Let me warn you: climb in a cage with me, and you'll end-up with a limp, or twitch -- whichever suits. "

stantaves wrote on Mar 7, 2009 2:19 PM:

" Make it out to yourself nextel, you're going to need it later when your liberal comrades come knocking. Oh yeah, it's nice to know that your paying attention -- that's a start anyway. "

Nextel wrote on Mar 7, 2009 1:29 PM:

" Stan, I wish I had a dime for every time You say "Believe it or Wake up." Why don't You monkey your a#s on down to Lowe's and buy the biggest Makita drill and bit they sell, then put it up to your ear and drill Baby drill. "

Nextel wrote on Mar 7, 2009 1:15 PM:

" Cog wrote @ 8:56am 3-6 -
"The bad part Nextel,is it's not funny like the daily show, it's just sad."
It's no Fox news or Ann Coultergeist but it's right behind in laughs. Reminds me of a joke...how do You make a Conservative laugh at a joke on Monday?
Tell em the joke on Friday. "

Nextel wrote on Mar 7, 2009 1:06 PM:

" See now I feel blessed and guilty for receiving all this free knowledge and wisdom from The World according to Stanly Taves and Galtito. In fact I'm gonna ink You Guy's a check today for whatever You think is fair. Should I make it out to cash or see no evil and hear no evil? "

Leonard wrote on Mar 7, 2009 10:53 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 9:33 PM:
" Leonard, Reagan had the obligation to rebuild our military that had been decimated under Carters bungling presidency.


Cogito, I am not criticizing Regan in this regard. Regan's came to power in a time of national crisis and his actions were necessary to solve the problem. Reagan was smart enough to understand that, sometimes, deficits are a necessary evil. "

stantaves wrote on Mar 7, 2009 9:45 AM:

" Gator, your understanding of geo-politics is lacking to say the most. Look! Afganistan is a fools parade -- just ask the Russians -- but Iraq represents a beacon of freedom that will do more to "change" the statis quo than any other military engagement of the past 70yrs. You point to the expense -- which is cosiderable -- but you disregard the foundation laid for a future that defends free people. You want things fixed -- who doesn't? -- But it's about drilling baby, and all the rest is liberal drivel. Wake up! "

Gator wrote on Mar 7, 2009 9:13 AM:

" God I love all the finger pointing and all the who did what.. We have done it to our selves. No workable energy policy for the past Administrations.. Credit carding ourselves to death, buying Homes we couldnt afford. Speculators driving the price of oil through the
roof, driving Gas hoggs, Then comes a war that arguably that shouldnt have ever been
fought and one that should have put on the back burner.. Iraq has cost over a Trillion dollars not counting the hundreds of millions that were given to Iraq and remain unaccounted for. Bush ranks 5th from the bottom as Presidents go, I would say he is lucky
to be rated that high!! I didnt vote for Obama but I choose to give him a chance.. How do we get out of this mess?? We get off our Lazy whining A** and fix it ourselves, no one
else will fix it for you and we need to stop the poor me syndromeQuestion. Just what have conservatives done for America?? Reagan was ok but he started the illegal tidal
Wave with amnesty "

t jefferson wrote on Mar 7, 2009 7:36 AM:

" The idea that our national interest is somehow served by the creation of a nation of Lords and Serfs is absurd.

L - I whole heartedly agree with you which is why I find it amazing you are a liberal Democrat. They are the biggest group of eliteset in the world. A friend of mine once said something it took me a minute to understand. "I hope to become rich enough to afford to be a Democrat" Think about it.

As far as the group in power now. You couldn't find a more elitest group of class warrior in the old Politburo starting with the man at the top. Well Newton's third law applies to politics also as the ruling junta will soon discover.
"

stantaves wrote on Mar 7, 2009 7:33 AM:

" Leo, it's like trying to penetrate a slab of granite with a wooden toothpick. Allow me use another metaphore: Picture a wagon filled with goods, a horse -- or mule -- pulling, and a man leading the way. Govt is like a wagon; it's only job is to fascillitate free movement of goods and services. The wagon, wanting to lead, tells the mule that he can make a better life for all of the horses and asses of the world, if he wiil just kick the leader to the curb. And so, off they go wondering aimlessly spilling their valuable goods as they go. The man of leadership however finds another wagon and team, fills it with goods, and off he goes satisfying real needs. You see the govt continues to place a burden upon men until there are no more wagons, and no more teams to pull them; they are all just out there wondering and wasting. Finally all of the horses and the asses start to go hungry, the wagons start to crumble, and that's when they cry for their leader. Where are the real leaders? Still around, they're just waiting for the wagon to finish crumbling. "

intrinsicly_valued wrote on Mar 7, 2009 4:31 AM:

" I completely agree with you right there, Wade.

The stimulus package...

All I have is one word.

RIDICULOUS. "

Rhodie wrote on Mar 7, 2009 1:14 AM:

" I knew the numbers were around there somewhere and wanted to error on the cautious side so no one could say I was exagerating.

I wonder how much the vilianized rich give to charities every year? (yes I know they get a tax break for it but I still wonder) "

Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 9:44 PM:

" By the way Leonard, the facts are there for you too, sorry for the lesson. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 9:43 PM:

" Rhodie, I must correct you my friend, the top 50% of taxpayers do NOT pay 95% of the taxes. As of 2006, the top 50% pay just over 97%of the taxes, the bottom 50% doesn't even pay 3% of our burden. The top 1% pays just under 40% of the tax burden. Under Bush, the burden paid by the top 1% rose, while the burden paid by the bottom 50% dropped under what was paid under Clinton. My source? Google "who pays the taxes", sourced by the IRS. Anyone who says the contrary is a liar or a fool. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 9:33 PM:

" Leonard, Reagan had the obligation to rebuild our military that had been decimated under Carters bungling presidency. We couldn't even rescue the Iranian hostages. carter and Oduma have much of the same idealism. I wouldn't doubt that in 4 years our next president won't have to do the same. The money Reagan spent on modernizing our military saved countless lives in the first Iraq war. Don't you think we owe it to our soldiers to give them the best we are able to do with what we have at that time? If what we have isn't the best, we go with it anyway, but military spending saves soldiers lives. "

Leonard wrote on Mar 6, 2009 7:19 PM:

" I once saw a comedian who noted that the way the average man would know that trickle down economics had finally reached its zenith was when a billionaire's urine trickled down onto his head as he lay sleeping under a bridge. "

Leonard wrote on Mar 6, 2009 7:17 PM:

" stantaves wrote on Mar 6, 2009 6:38 PM:
" Oh Leo, When will you and your ilk ever learn.


As I said, the dims....

The idea that our national interest is somehow served by the creation of a nation of Lords and Serfs is absurd. Increasing the burdens of the middle class while making enormous wealth redistributions to hedge fund managers, corporate bankers and Big Oil execs can lead nowhere but to national decline and, for the vast majority of Americans, poverty.

The Republicans had six years to impose their innovations on this country while they controlled the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of government. We can all see where that got us. "

Rhodie wrote on Mar 6, 2009 6:46 PM:

" L, I have a hard time with punishing the rich for being sucessful. The top 1% you think need to pay more pay 30+% of the the countries taxes. The top half of tax payers pay 95% of teh tax dollars.

I like the idea of a flat tax. Everyone pays the same amount. No discrimination for success, no punishment for working hard. Everyone's equal under a flat tax. If the rate goes up for one it goes up for all, if it goes down for one it goes down for all. "

stantaves wrote on Mar 6, 2009 6:38 PM:

" Oh Leo, When will you and your ilk ever learn. The "rich" make most of the money, and they pay most of the taxes. It's the bureaucrats that upset the balance, and it's always been that way. In other words, the pie is only so big at any given time, and our benevolent leaders are always the ones who believe they are entitled to the biggest piece. The producers, having an inherent understanding of balance in the market place, react by taking what is theirs. Who gets hurt? the workers of course. Then unions are formed to react to what is clearly a legislative unjustice, but the finger is always pointed at the productive class -- easy target right? Just remember that God said to Adam and Eve, "take only that which is rightfully yours, but be mindful that that is where the argument begins. I know that you would like to believe that govts job is to represent the working guy, but govt takes care of itself; and the producers are always the ones who produce. Stop your dreaming and align yourself with the productive class; you'll be happier for it -- believe it. "

Leonard wrote on Mar 6, 2009 5:44 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 7:29 AM:
" Leonard, Democrats don't really believe in tax cuts.


If you were to rephrase that to read Democrats don't believe in tax cuts that are only given to the rich I would agree.

The Bush GOP has, over the last eight years, organized one of the biggest wealth reallocations in history, raping the middle class to make the top 1% even more obscenely rich than they were before.

No, we don't believe in those kind of tax cuts.

Sorry. "

Leonard wrote on Mar 6, 2009 5:39 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 7:17 AM:
" Leonard, the tax cuts were his idea though.


So were the deficits. The dims in the Republican rank and file may have believed that the Artesians were going to pay for everything but Reagan was smart enough to know that you don't cut taxes while imposing massive increases in military spending without running deficits. "

Rhodie wrote on Mar 6, 2009 2:58 PM:

" Wtf: It's no surprise. Wife and I like watching Numbeers, on one epispode they went into a five minute wrap on the show about organ donation. During the elections Boston Legal (wife's show not mine) spent as much time campaigning the liberal agenda as it did on it's story lines. On House it is routine for them to lament the evils of the pharmacutical companies. How many times have you seen the war in Iraq lamented or praised on a show, tons I bet. It seems more shows than not need a "and the moral of the story it" wrap at the end of the show.

Look at all the product placement shots in televison now as well. It is actually a game in our house to be the first one to spot the blatent product placement ads. Shoe companies, soda makers and computers are the obvious ones. Some car companies are bad but characters need cars (it's only when teh shot starts on the make of the car I yell "Product shot".). "

wtf wrote on Mar 6, 2009 1:08 PM:

" On Mar 4, 2009 12:57 PM I gave you a link that shows the "news" doesn't have to report the news.

Here's a link where Fox Admits To Planting Political Brainwashing In Popular TV Shows

http://www.prisonplanet.com/fox-admits-to-planting-political-brainwashing-in-popular-tv-shows.html

And you can bet your bottom dollar that FOX isn't the only media corporation doing this and global climate change isn't the only "idea" being planted in shows. "

wtf wrote on Mar 6, 2009 12:52 PM:

" Here you go, Wade. Perhaps CNBC can give you an answer to your question via Jon Stewart of the Daily Show.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=220252&title=cnbc-gives-financial-advice

As an addendum: The Dow closed at around 6,500 today. "

wtf wrote on Mar 6, 2009 12:09 PM:

" And the good guys in white hats are on both sides of the aisle as well.

Dennis Kucinich - Democrat - on the Fed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r_-QRKyu6g&eurl=http://www.heartlandnews.us/02_04_09_debtfreedollars.html&feature=player_embedded

Ron Paul - Republican - on the Fed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZJfLXZyQ1U "

wtf wrote on Mar 6, 2009 11:37 AM:

" Like I said, it's not a Rep/Dem thing at all.

"Six months ago, we taxpayers began bailing out AIG with more than $140 billion, and then it went and lost $61.7 billion in the fourth quarter, more than any other company in history had ever lost in one quarter. So Timothy Geithner and Ben Bernanke huddled late into the night last weekend and decided to reward AIG for its startling failure with thirty billion more of our dollars."

Please note that the first $140 billion was given by Bush appointee Paulson along with Bernanke; this latest giveaway is from Geithner (Obama appointee) and Bernanke.

Common denominator?

Bernanke from the Federal Reserve.

END THE FED! "

wtf wrote on Mar 6, 2009 10:59 AM:

" That meeting with Pitt and Obushma was allegedly regarding Pitt's help with rebuilding New Orleans.

But, you know, Cogito, I wouldn't dismiss Pitt and Jolie out of hand. Angelina Jolie is a member of the CFR and a goodwill ambassador for the UN.

In other words, these two (Pitt and Jolie), as actors, can move about in the world and do things behind the scenes that a lot of openly gov politicos can't. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 9:23 AM:

" I see in the paper today that Oduma had a meeting with that internationally respected political heavyweight, Brad Pitt. This soon after his similar meeting with the dashing dullard George Clooney. The medical talking head on CNN just rejected Odumas offer to be the Surgeon General. Maybe he doesn't pay his taxes like other Oduma appointees, and doesn't want the publicity. As far as the meetings with Pitt and Clooney, maybe sometimes he just likes to feel like the smartest guy in the room. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 8:52 AM:

" The bad part Nextel, is it's not funny like the Daily Show, it's just sad. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 8:51 AM:

" No Nextel, it's not the GOP. It doesn't say much for our education system. Wanna see some of those smart Oduma voters? Watch the video on "howobamagotelected.com. Watch the "Obama election day interviews". What's interesting is not only what they don't know, but what they got right. Watch it and get a slice of the intellectual interests of a typical Democrat. "

stantaves wrote on Mar 6, 2009 8:46 AM:

" It's clear that you are oblivious to the realities of the day -- but nice try anyway Nextel. You say that you enjoy reading my letters -- who doesn't? However, from here your needs will be better satisfied with a nod of approval. Once again it is time for your task master to take you to school: Your leprechauns on the left will not find their pot of gold at the end of the rainbow because conservatives are buying it all up too rapidly. You see Obama believes that he can go back to the Keynesian well one more time with a vengence that has never been seen before. But I have news for your teem: the well is dry! There are some wells that aren't dry however, and they're called: OIL and GAS. Your people refuse to shoot for the bubblin' crude and that will be their undoing -- believe it! "

Nextel wrote on Mar 6, 2009 7:50 AM:

" Good morning Gogito,
Your question about 5% down You answered for Yourself. You were self employed and I was working for as You say "the Man" with predictable income.
I missed this one yesterday....You wrote @ 1855 - "As for the narcissistic sociopaths approval ratings, they were always higher then the Democratic led Senate.Bad news, they're still in town."
LOL! Yet they still gained seats. Don't say much for the Grand Ol Party do it? Check this one out for a good laugh - http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/indexjhtml?videoId=215929&title=reagraham-lincool
Off to work, Peace-out. "

wtf wrote on Mar 6, 2009 7:49 AM:

" We need to End the Fed...that quasi-private institution that creates money out of thin air.

Your signature on a "loan" document is how this magic is accomplished.

Wouldn't it be nice if Obushma declared a Jubilee?

Total debt forgiveness for everyone.

Now **that's** the ticket! LOL! "

wtf wrote on Mar 6, 2009 7:45 AM:

" Guys, I keep telling you, it's not a Repub/Dem thing at all. That bunch are on the same team! LOL!

Drop their labels and look at their actions **in total** over the years. BOTH parties are guilty, guilty, guilty!

Even if we did have our dollars in our pocket, **whose** economy would we be helping?

If we spend that money at Wal-Mart, the money goes to China. If we spend it on gasoline, it goes to the Arabs.

If we buy a computer it will go to India.

If we purchase fruit and vegetables it will go to Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala.

If we purchase a good car it will go to Germany.

If we purchase useless crap it will go to Taiwan and none of it will help the American economy," he opined.

The only way to keep that money here at home is to spend it on prostitutes and beer, since these are the only products still produced in US. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 7:29 AM:

" Leonard, Democrats don't really believe in tax cuts. Oduma believes in taxes as a source of punishing the rich, and has even said taxing the rich, for no reason other than to take their money, is "just fair". Look up his reasoning on the inheritance tax if you don't believe me. He also believes in giving so called "cuts" to those who don't even pay any taxes. That's called "welfare". "

Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 7:17 AM:

" Leonard, the tax cuts were his idea though. And after the tax cuts, the economy turned around (from what many experts say was worse than now)and thrived. the economy grew so much in the next eight years that federal revenue doubled despite those cuts. You would think Oduma would have had a recent historical success to emulate. But no, he chose the opposite idealism. Give the money to those that caused the problem. Bail out the fatcats in banking and insurance to the tune of trillions. Reagan believed in letting the citizens and businesses, those who earned it, put their money in their pockets to invest in themselves. A true man of the people. "

Onelastthing wrote on Mar 6, 2009 7:14 AM:

" http://www.taxjustice.net/cms/front_content.php?idcat=103

Magnitudes: dirty money, lost taxes and offshore

-Perhpas someone could deduce this article. "

Onelastthing wrote on Mar 6, 2009 7:02 AM:

" What's so ironic is, a good portion of the money that the government is stimulating the economy with is being borrowed from offshore banks at interest. All the Democrats need to do is stop taxing us until we bleed and this money will come back to the U.S.
We're talking trillions of dollars. "

Onelastthing wrote on Mar 6, 2009 6:57 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Mar 5, 2009 8:14 PM:

" dogs4you wrote on Mar 3, 2009 4:01 PM:

Pres. Reagen lowered taxes not raised them and made it work.

He also ran deficits every year of his Presidency totaling a couple trillion in 1988 dollars. "

-Leonard still doesn't get it that lowering taxes always stimulates the economy. It's really quite simple. If you let people keep more of their money they are far more likely to reinvest it in the U.S. economy and not hide it in offshore banks. As long as Democrats feel they have to tax us until we bleed they shouldn't expect money to stay in U.S. Banks. "

Leonard wrote on Mar 6, 2009 5:35 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 1:13 AM:
" Leonard, you talk about Reagans budget deficits. Since the president only submits "funding recommendations" to the house and the senate, and the house and the senate actually develop budget resolutions and then set up appropriations bills to allocate funding (you know, the real nuts and bolts of the budget), could you educate us on which party was in charge of the house and the senate during Reagans presidency?


Chuckle... well, if you want to get technical, then he didn't pass any tax cuts either which was the achievement Dogs was trumpeting. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 1:13 AM:

" Leonard, you talk about Reagans budget deficits. Since the president only submits "funding recommendations" to the house and the senate, and the house and the senate actually develop budget resolutions and then set up appropriations bills to allocate funding (you know, the real nuts and bolts of the budget), could you educate us on which party was in charge of the house and the senate during Reagans presidency? You know, the ones really in charge of putting together the budgets. Oh, and while you're at it, could you tell us who was in charge of the house and the senate during the later years of the Clinton presidency, when the budgets were close to balanced? "

Cogito wrote on Mar 6, 2009 12:56 AM:

" Nextel, where were you sooner, I totally forgot about what was obviously the social event of the year here in Galt. I'll probably be completely shunned in my hometown now. But, as far as your Snopes link, my statement about the Dow and unemployment were only an example of pointing out absurdity by being absurd, just to get people going. How many things, like the 9/11 attack were blamed on Bush? The government has VERY little to do in a positive way for our economy. The best they can do is to stay out. If they hadn't loosened the lending rules and threatened banks with fines for not making bad loans, we wouldn't be in this mess. That's the high cost of social engineering. By the way, how did you ever get a loan with 5% down 20 years ago? That's about when I bought my first house, I had to put 20% down. My 2nd house, I put down 40% of the cost and they still made me jump through hoops. Why you say? Because I was single and self-employed. And I had great credit! "

Nextel wrote on Mar 5, 2009 10:21 PM:

" Cogito,
Thanks for the feed back Brother. I didn't expect anything from You today with the big Grand opening of Tractor Supply in your lovely Home Town of Galt. I took your advise and did a little homework on this complicated issue that none of us can agree on. I think this link can shed a little light on things without pointing fingers at one particular Party or President. http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/votedforchange.asp Be sure to scroll down to the bottom where there is an overview of the current debt debacle by the writer of bad money, Kevin Phillips. "

Nextel wrote on Mar 5, 2009 10:04 PM:

" Stan I got it all figured out Taves wrote @ 9:43am - "Nextel, You assume too much and understand Too little. You have yet to refute anything I have ever posted. Fannie and Freddie played a large role in this fiasco."
No Sh#t, they played a big role Stanley. My point is that all lending Institutions were taking on the same bad loans. Since when was it good business to loan money to losers in this Country? When I bought my fist home almost 20 yrs ago it took 5% down with 2 months reserves in savings and good credit. Do we blame the losers for jumping in this free lunch line or the unregulated greedy Bastards that wrote and moved all this bad paper. There is no doubt, plenty of blame to go around with both Parties on this issue but not being regulated was huge. Stan, my Wife and I have been reading your crack pot LTE for years now Sir. At least your engaged in this great Democracy and passionate about your opinions. I respect You for that. "

Leonard wrote on Mar 5, 2009 8:14 PM:

" dogs4you wrote on Mar 3, 2009 4:01 PM:

Pres. Reagen lowered taxes not raised them and made it work.


He also ran deficits every year of his Presidency totaling a couple trillion in 1988 dollars. "

Leonard wrote on Mar 5, 2009 8:12 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Mar 3, 2009 9:01 AM:
" Nextel, the Dow was at 14,000 and unemployment was at 5%, then the Democrats took over Congress. Nuff said.


Hmmm.... I thought y'all were trying to blame this all on Clinton.

Better get your story straight. "

Leonard wrote on Mar 5, 2009 8:10 PM:

" Wade, why did my generation have to pay for your schooling?

Reading your column, I feel that my tax dollars were wasted. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 5, 2009 7:45 PM:

" Also Nextel, the amount that fannie and freddie spoke for as of 2008, was 12 TRILLION! "

Cogito wrote on Mar 5, 2009 6:59 PM:

" Stan, the Republicans tried to stop the questionable lending practices over 4 years ago, they were halted by the Democrats and their bleating "all is well". "

Cogito wrote on Mar 5, 2009 6:56 PM:

" Gator,......... exactly! "

Cogito wrote on Mar 5, 2009 6:55 PM:

" Sorry, I meant "as" "

Cogito wrote on Mar 5, 2009 6:55 PM:

" ASs for the narcissistic sociopaths approval ratings, they were always higher than the Democrat led senate. Bad news, they're still in town. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 5, 2009 6:32 PM:

" Uhhhh Nextel my amigo, the truth is that fannie and freddie owned or insured about half of all home mortgages in 2008. That's waaaaaaay more than any other bank or lender. AND more than likely the source of the majority of bad ones. People like me, who have good credit and pay their bills, don't need to go to the government for our loans. Do some homework. "

stantaves wrote on Mar 5, 2009 5:55 PM:

" 4A, please tell me that you're just foolin'. Anyone with any perspective, any sence of history knows that the problems we face began decades ago. It's called "the consumption economy" and no one, not even the great Barak Obama, can explain what that means -- no one except for myself that is. Consumption means that we all get to be fat, feminine and foolish. In other words our "consumer economy" means that we are all F'd -- you know fat, feminine and foolish. "

4AStrongLodi wrote on Mar 5, 2009 4:47 PM:

" At least the Republicans are not the majority Party in power anymore. Now we can try to fix the problems they caused over the last 8 years. "

Rhodie wrote on Mar 5, 2009 4:43 PM:

" I wonder how many of our tax dollars are going to this waste http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/03/05/dinosaur-chicken.html?campaign=w01-101-ae-0001.

It's all fun and games until the dinochicken eats your face off. "

Gator wrote on Mar 5, 2009 12:48 PM:

" Looking for some one to blame, look in
the mirror!!! "

LodiSafeway wrote on Mar 5, 2009 11:34 AM:

" You know Wade, for as long as I can remember there has been this concern that the debt incurred by one generation will become the albatross for future generations. As I was a young man struggling to make ends meet while paying my taxes, did I really think that my generation would be any different from past ones; that once men and women in my age group became part of the "establishment" that it would be us (collectively) that would cease the madness? Sure, why not? I was naive enough then to swallow that.

The thing is Wade, when you and your peers begin to take the reins of government and other high-level positions in the public and private sectors, you will be awakened to the reality that debt will simply accrue. At that point it will be your children and grandchildren who will be concerned about the deficits that you will be creating for them. The cycle continues.

This is unless of course, another bright, articulate young politician comes along with yet another and possibly different vision of "hope" and "change." Then watch out! "

stantaves wrote on Mar 5, 2009 9:43 AM:

" Nextel you assume too much, and understand too little. You have yet to refute anything that I have ever posted. Fannie and freddie played a large role in this credit fiasco, but clearly it was Greenspan who dropped the ball and set into motion the collapse that we are now grappling with. Let me spell it out for you: the low rates were the catalist for housing price inflaion which allowed people to refinance houses that they never actually owned -- no skin in the game remember? But in reality it all started with FDR and the genisis of the credit/ consumer system that everyone enjoyed for decades. What you need to realize is that it was the "energy glut" that allowed for a breakdown in fiscal and monetary discipline -- cheap energy makes us fat, feminine and foolish. Sure, bush helped to push the whole thing over the edge -- but a breakdown in the credit/consumer system is unavoidable in any case. In other words, Bush took the festering boil of our flawed system and squeezed it. I'm sure you would have preferred that we languish in a head of pus forever, but that's just not sustainable. "

wtf wrote on Mar 5, 2009 9:05 AM:

" Perhaps it's neither a Republican nor a Democrat issue; maybe we should look at the root of the thing.

The Federal Reserve.

Don't know if you still follow Ron Paul, Wade; but he has a bill in to Abolish the Federal Reserve. Barring that, he has another bill in to enable Congress to audit the Federal Reserve.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/85020 "

Nextel wrote on Mar 5, 2009 7:48 AM:

" Napa Vally Chef wrote -
"and your soap box rantings, even more so."
That's just Cogito educating us with thought provoking research. "

onelastthing wrote on Mar 5, 2009 6:59 AM:

" Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.
Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer

A government big enough to give you
everything you want, is strong enough to take
everything you have. -Thomas Jefferson "

napa valley chef wrote on Mar 5, 2009 1:38 AM:

" Seriously, seven posts in a row? Why not just start your own blog? You are ridiculous, and your soapbox rantings, even more so. "

Nextel wrote on Mar 4, 2009 10:24 PM:

" Ahh for Christ sake Eidith! doesn't anyone work around here?
Cogito and Stan - I am not an apologist for any President including Obama. And Stan, I don't hate Bush. I feel sorry for the inept narcissistic sociopath that left town with below freezing approval ratings. I will never make excuses or be a co-dependent for Obama like some of you here do for Bush. More often than You Cog, I do try to research what I hear and say. Are You trying to say that Freddie and Fannie were the bulk of the bad loans being made? Got news for ya big fella, most bad loans were Conventional and creative by big lending Institutions. There were 25+ FDIC insured banks with huge holdings that went away in 08 from seedy lending, You can Google the list. Under your other Hero Reagan, that stood over the S&L crisis 2,377 banks failed, representing 67% of the 3,559 Bank failures from 1934 to now. Starting to see a little pattern here with your Party, deregulation and greed? Something had to be done to stop the bleeding and Obama will live or die by this Economic plan. "

Scrutiny wrote on Mar 4, 2009 3:08 PM:

" Wade, you wanna tell me that Schwarzeneggers ballot proposals that he put on the ballot would not have changed the political landscape of California if they had passed? The people don`t want REAL change! Most just hope for some miracle to come about. Even a superstar like Arnold can only lead the people to water, he can`t make them drink. "

wtf wrote on Mar 4, 2009 2:23 PM:

" Correction: It should read "this patent" not "his patent" "

wtf wrote on Mar 4, 2009 12:57 PM:

" Here's a link for you Wade. It shows that young people, like yourself, are the ones who will bring real change. The video is very informative regarding the "news"

http://www.911blogger.com/node/19513

And you best get cracking! Came across this nugget and the bottom portion, the quote by Col. House is very revealing.

http://www.gemworld.com/EdMandellHouse.htm

Especially when you take a gander at his patent.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5878155.PN.&OS=PN/5878155&RS=PN/5878155 "

stantaves wrote on Mar 4, 2009 10:15 AM:

" Sorry, I posted the same thing twice because it appeared that my other post had been removed. I just assumed that someone felt that I was being too inflammatory. "

stantaves wrote on Mar 4, 2009 10:11 AM:

" Okay, Bush paid for the war with accelerated consumtion, but it was Greenspan who kept the interest rates too low for too long. Furthermore, It was Dodd, Frank, Obama, and their cast of criminal congressional comrades that stopped Bush from curtailing "fannie and freddie". Nextel, I understand that your short sightedness compells you to focus on Bush, but it's time that you got over it and started focusing on the bigger picture. You will be happier for it -- believe it! "

Cogito wrote on Mar 4, 2009 10:00 AM:

" Stan is right, look at the link I provided to prove it! "

wtf wrote on Mar 4, 2009 9:52 AM:

" Here's proof that Bush and Obama are of the same ilk! LOL!

http://redhotandbluepolitics.com/images/obushma.jpg

http://www.trendhunter.com/photos/34299

Or Obama could be Akhenaton returned! LOL! This is a pic of Barakhenaton. ;)

http://www.taroscopes.com/forumpics/barakhenaton.jpg

Here's Akhenaton.

http://www.africawithin.com/hpi/hp6.htm

And here's some links to get you thinking.

What are odious debts?

http://www.odiousdebts.org/odiousdebts/index.cfm?DSP=subcontent&AreaID=3

Co-Dependency and The American Taxpayer

http://redpill8.blogspot.com/2009/03/co-dependency-and-american-taxpayer.html

Things across the pond aren't much different.

To politicians, we're little more than meaningless blobs on a monitor. Bring on the summer of rage. We're the ants in their garden. The bacteria in their stools. Politicians have nothing but contempt for us.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/02/charlie-brooker-politicians?commentpage=1

And here's a little history.

The Bankers Manifesto of 1892: History Repeated

http://www.wholetruthcoalition.org/2009/02/26/the-bankers-manifesto-of-1892-history-repeated/

Something to ponder....

http://ichoosefreedom.info/?p=2010 "

stantaves wrote on Mar 4, 2009 9:52 AM:

" Nextel and your fraternity of finger pointers, are so short sighted that all you can see is Bush. Sure, Bush paid for the war with accelerated consumption, but it was Greenspan who drove interest rates to zero; and it was Dodd, Frank, Obama, and the rest of your liberal lunatics in congress that wouldn't allow Bush to curtail "fannie and freddie". Look! it will all work-out in the end , but you had better learn to focus on the "long view" if you're hpoing to come out of it in one piece. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 4, 2009 9:26 AM:

" OK here's the easy link, "nakedemperornews.com", then scroll down to the pic of Maxine Waters. Push play, watch and listen to the Democrats in their own words. Don't miss Clinton at the end. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 4, 2009 9:03 AM:

" If you cant get the link there, just go to "youtube" and enter (application/x-shockwave, or go on "nakedemperornews.com" and look for "fannie mae, freddie mac "

Cogito wrote on Mar 4, 2009 8:48 AM:

" Lastly Nextel, why don't you do a little research to find the genesis of our economic problems. It can all be traced to government compelling lending institutions to make bad loans to unqualified borrowers. Look for the sources there, and watch what happened when Republican leaders tried to point out the problem over 4 YEARS ago! http;//www.youtube.com/v/ MGT cSi7Rs&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0 "

Cogito wrote on Mar 4, 2009 8:32 AM:

" O.K. Nextel, and Wade, here's some really scary numbers for you. President Odumas bailout will cost, after being adjusted for inflation, MORE than the Marshall Plan, Louisiana Purchase, the moonshot, S&L bailout, Korean War, New Deal, Vietnam War, Iraq War, and the LIFETIME budget of NASA, COMBINED! That means "all added together" Nextel. When you point your finger at a spender, you better start with your guy Oduma! http;//boingboing.net/2008/11/25/bailout-cost-more-t.html "

Cogito wrote on Mar 4, 2009 8:18 AM:

" Oduma has already outspent any year under Bush. This bailout cost way more than the entire cost of the Iraq war. And for who? Banks, insurance companies, and their fatcat CEOs. Wow, what a change. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 4, 2009 8:11 AM:

" OK nextel, I meant the last 2 years, when things went to hell. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 4, 2009 8:10 AM:

" Nextel, weren't those Bush budgets being drawn up by a Democrat led congress for 6 of his 8 years? If you think Bush raised the debt, you ain't seen nothing yet. Odumas debt will be more for the 4 years he will be president, than Bush did in 8. The Democrats are completely in charge now, you'll have no one else to blame! "

Nextel wrote on Mar 3, 2009 10:41 PM:

" Sorry I didn't get back to You Guy's sooner, it was a long wet day at the rock pile. But hey, I'm just another greedy Citizen who wants something for nothing and some redistribution of wealth. Nighty-night Girls. "

Nextel wrote on Mar 3, 2009 10:33 PM:

" k-94u, Do a little google on how much Bush and his Republican controlled Congress and Senate spent in the first 6 yrs of failed Policies. And That strong economy You talk about was a bunch of smoke and mirrors fueled by inflated home prices that allowed people to keep dipping into the cookie jar. Please try not to reference Rush if You want to be taken seriously. "

Nextel wrote on Mar 3, 2009 10:18 PM:

" Cogito wrote @ 9:01am -
"The Dow was at 14,000 and unemployment was at 5%, then the Democrats took over Congress. Nuff said."
Nuff said for who?? Meat heads that don't know any better? On the day your Chimp Bush took Office, the National debt was $5.727 Trillion. And the day we let the door hit em where the good Lord split em, it was pushing $10 Trillion. That's a 71% increase on Bush's watch. Hell, the Debt limit was raised 7 times by the Bush Admin. It was the biggest increase under ANY President in U.S history. A couple of weeks after Bush took Office, He addressed the Republican Congressional Retreat in Williamsburg and declared that His Budget "pays down the National Debt." In recent years, Bush has never mentioned National Debt. So the 2 yrs since the Mid-Term "Thumpin" is where all this spending took place? And who's Policies were the Dem's funding in Congress Cog? I think I'm reading You loud and clear Cog..if one inherits a decent economy and then leaves an abyss to climb out of, that can be credited to the two years the Dem's controlled Congress. Sorry, that little doggy don't hunt! "

napa valley chef wrote on Mar 3, 2009 9:44 PM:

" Just blame it on your Republican parents. "

Cogito wrote on Mar 3, 2009 7:51 PM:

" Wade, it's not the greed of the politicians you will be paying for, it's the greed of the citizens who want something for nothing. The politicians just pay the prostitutes what they want for their votes. As long as someone else is picking up the tab, I want mine! "

dogs4you wrote on Mar 3, 2009 4:01 PM:

" Wade if this debt is to be payed down or even get close, you will be a great great great grandfather. Nextel your so very wrong, the economy of this country was strong for the first 6 years untill Pelosi and Ried and there cheerleaders got into office. Now Obama is ready to give up the ranch, put us in a debt that can never be paid. Pres. Reagen lowered taxes not raised them and made it work. Seems you missed the bellowing of Rush when he addressed the world the other night on C-Span, while I don`t totally agree, he had some very good points. One poster stated, Mission Compelted was a mistake, it only took Obama a week to admit that he screwed up, with more to come. "

stantaves wrote on Mar 3, 2009 9:56 AM:

" Don't worry Wade; no one is going to pay fot this insanity. If any of our leaders had ever even considered paying off the nat debt, then we would have started balancing the books decades ago. Even Clinton -- having the advantage of the techno revolution -- believd that paying down the nat debt was a bad idea. Why? because paying down the debt would've taken money from our beloved "consumer economy" and put into the hands of bond holders that have been enjoying the interest paid. In other words, the powers that be don't want the debt paid; they only want it serviced into perpetuity. The thing that Obama doesn't understand is that he is creating conditions through which "debt service" becomes an unsustainable burden for taxpayers. It's a "catch 22" of sorts that paves the way for either totalitarianism or monetary collapse and its subsequent revolution. I think that Obama will come to his sences, however, and start proucing domestic oil; giving us a two-fold benifit of dollar stabilization and terror suppression. I think Obama is a smart guy, but clearly he is listening to the wrong people. Maybe he will listen to you Wade? "

Cogito wrote on Mar 3, 2009 9:01 AM:

" Nextel, the Dow was at 14,000 and unemployment was at 5%, then the Democrats took over Congress. Nuff said. "

t jefferson wrote on Mar 3, 2009 8:11 AM:

" Actually wade wasn't born when this mess started under FDR and was accelerated under LBJ. Bush II added to the mess with the misguided nation building and now BHO has spend more in the first 30 days than most do in 4 years.

Don't worry wade your generation will repudiate this debt and have a lower standard of living do to the excesses of the left. You can't fund a hamock for all those who need "help" and expect the country to survive. The next decade is when the bill is coming due, get ready. "

Nextel wrote on Mar 3, 2009 7:54 AM:

" Wade,
You should have been pro-active by writing this letter 7 1/2 years ago when the fleecing of our Treasury was being taken to a whole new level. "

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