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The government is dividing America


Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:22 AM PST

This new so-called "Stimulus Bill" does nothing more than grow bigger government while encouraging a larger welfare state.

The few jobs that this bill will create are jobs within government entities, not private industry. In turn, this creates more government regulation and control over the people.

After the trillion-dollar taxpayer bailout for the banks, the banking system is still failing. The big-shot bank CEOs spent the money for their bonuses and are not divulging where the rest of the money has gone. Furthermore, there was no oversight or regulations mandated by government for this one trillion-dollar taxpayer bailout. Consequently, we can look forward to a nationalized banking system and, within this Stimulus Bill, we will be quickly moving to socialized medicine.

As morals continue to decline, neither Republican nor Democrat politicians represent the people of America. These self-minded politicians represent themselves. If government had been this corrupt and incompetent 30 years ago, Americans would have stood together and revolted. However, since media, the politically correct propaganda and government have been pushing for diversity of people within all races and cultures, while allowing the illegal immigrants to continue flowing across our borders, there is no way people in America will stand together against this corrupt government.

Remember America's motto, "United We Stand and Divided We Fall." This government has not been promoting a United America, it has been promoting a Diversified America while allowing the ongoing invasion by non Americans. It is common knowledge that to control and conquer, you need to divide the people. And now Americans are divided. There is no unity or loyalty toward our American heritage of Capitalism, hard work, personal accountability or the JudeoChristian values and principals that America was founded upon.

Now, it is all about self! Yeah, let's rely on big daddy government, and we can expect them to provide everything, including more welfare. The following is a quote by Thomas Jefferson: "A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have." Socialist fascism is growing in the United States.

Bryan Stamos
Lodi

Reader Feedback

Leonard wrote on Mar 3, 2009 8:40 PM:

" For years we've heard about how the media was influenced by the politicians.

Now, the tables have turned entirely and we have a media celebrity seizing control of one of the nations largest political parties.

As Steele grovels at Limbaugh's pudgy sausage like toes he must certainly wonder how this all came to pass. "

mike wrote on Mar 3, 2009 6:50 PM:

" Here is a good history lesson on government with PERTINENCE and maybe prophetic for us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE&eurl=http://www.silver-investor.com/index.html&feature=player_embedded "

voter wrote on Mar 3, 2009 3:15 PM:

" onelastthing wrote on Mar 2, 2009 7:40 PM:
" It goes to show how much respect Limbaugh has for Steele. It also took a lot of character for Rush to apologize. Unlike a liberal. "

Maybe I missed something in the reporting. When did RUSH apologize? "

Lodian wrote on Mar 3, 2009 10:17 AM:

" Wow, Leonard! You are sharp as a tack. I didn't even catch that one. LOL!!! "

Leonard wrote on Mar 3, 2009 9:45 AM:

" onelastthing wrote on Mar 2, 2009 9:24 PM:

" Indeed, We rarely see a liberal taking another liberal to task for being a scumbag.


Are you implying that is what Steele was saying?

I mean, I know he used strong language but I didn't think he actually came out and acknowledged the fact that Limbaugh is a scumbag.

Do you have a link? "

Lodian wrote on Mar 3, 2009 9:34 AM:

" Brian/onelastthing wrote "I suppose one as misinformed as Lodian would interpret my posts as bazarre."

Brian/onelastthing: On what am I misinformed, Mr. Dockter?

(this ought to be good) "

Rhodie wrote on Mar 3, 2009 7:43 AM:

" I see another pick of Obama's has tax problems. This is four or five for him. I didn't pay that much attention 8 years ago but did Bush or Clinton have this many problems with their starting staff?

Republican or Democrate, I'd worry if so many of a politicians top picks for government had this many cheats in it. "

onelastthing wrote on Mar 3, 2009 7:34 AM:

" I'm bazarre? I suppose one as misinformed as Lodian would interpret my posts as bazarre. "

Lodian wrote on Mar 2, 2009 9:37 PM:

" Geez, Brian/onelastthing, you are so bizarre. "

onelastthing wrote on Mar 2, 2009 9:30 PM:

" Leonard wrote on Mar 2, 2009 8:15 PM:

" One thing I like about Brian's new identity is the fact that his very moniker is a lie.

-I hope Leonard wouldn't go as far as saying when Paul Harvey (rest in peace) said "That's the rest of the story" he was lying too. "

onelastthing wrote on Mar 2, 2009 9:24 PM:

" Indeed, We rarely see a liberal taking another liberal to task for being a scumbag. The double standard is just way too evident. "

onelastthing wrote on Mar 2, 2009 9:19 PM:

" http://bridgetdgms.wordpress.com/2008/02/27/liberal-terrorists-never-have-to-say-sorry/

These people honestly disgust me and it disgusts me even more that Ayers is a professor on an American college campus. Why would we let a known domestic terrorist teach our kids? Especially since he does NOT regret what he did. Why is it that the so-called peace loving liberals are the ones who do the most violent things? This really makes me sick! And the double standard is ridiculous. Libs can get by with anything, but if it were a conservative who did even HALF what these people did, wed never hear the end of it.

But the difference is that conservatives wouldnt put up with this type of thing. If a conservative turns out to be a scumbag, we get rid of em ourselves. Bottom line, we take out our own garbage instead of defending it. "

onelastthing wrote on Mar 2, 2009 9:09 PM:

" Like I said, unlike liberals, conservatives have the character to know when they are wrong. "

Leonard wrote on Mar 2, 2009 8:15 PM:

" One think I like about Brian's new identity is the fact that his very moniker is a lie. "

Leonard wrote on Mar 2, 2009 8:13 PM:

" voter wrote on Mar 2, 2009 6:41 PM:
" I too saw Steele call Limbaugh just an entertainer--an ugly and incendiary entertainer. Hours later I heard he was "forced" to apologize. WHAT? Looks like Limbaugh controls the show--hilarious! Would love to know how the conservative rank and file feel about this. "


Can we say "powerless token"? "

onelastthing wrote on Mar 2, 2009 7:40 PM:

" My post at 7:02 is so telling.

We would never hear someone from the left calling another Democrat on something they said that was incindiary.

It goes to show how much respect Limbaugh has for Steele. It also took a lot of character for Rush to apologize. Unlike a liberal. "

onelastthing wrote on Mar 2, 2009 7:07 PM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:09 AM:

" http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89676

Report card: Obama's 1st 30 days

A clip:


President Obama is losing the Americans who should have the biggest hand in the recovery: small business leaders. According to the same ATI-News/Zogby poll, 56 percent of mainly small business leaders think President Obama's stimulus plan will make economic recovery harder, not easier. Only 32 percent thought it would be helpful to the economy. A staggering 60 percent of business leaders think Obama's bill spends too much on non-stimulus pork items, as opposed to real measures that will improve the economy. This is crucial, as these business leaders are the ones who will ultimately create the jobs, wealth and commerce that will turn around the economy. It is troubling that a clear majority of them see President Obama's plan as a hindrance, not a help. "


-Leonard aaaaaand his minions seem to be speechless about how Obama has thrown us ALL under the bus. "

onelastthing wrote on Mar 2, 2009 7:04 PM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:16 AM:

" http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89676

President Obama has effectively undone many of the strides America has made on welfare reform. Many of the provisions in the stimulus bill are actually designed to reverse gains made on welfare reform. As Michael Tanner writes in the New York Post: "[T]he bill would reward states for increasing caseloads, even if the growth came because the state had loosened its requirements for recipients to work. This is radical change. States that succeed in getting people off welfare would lose the opportunity for increased federal funding. And states that make it easier to stay on welfare (by, say, raising the time limit from two years to five) would get rewarded with more taxpayer cash. The bill would even let states with rising welfare rolls still collect their 'case-load reduction' bonuses."


-There seems to be an eery silence about Obama here from those who thought he was the next best thing to sliced bread. "

onelastthing wrote on Mar 2, 2009 7:02 PM:

" Its like I tell Leonard, we can't do much to discredit the liberals, all we have to do is sit back and wait for them to discredit themselves.

Of course Leonard doesn't feel liberals ever discredit themselves. This is one of the reasons liberals never feel they have to say they are sorry. "

voter wrote on Mar 2, 2009 6:41 PM:

" I too saw Steele call Limbaugh just an entertainer--an ugly and incendiary entertainer. Hours later I heard he was "forced" to apologize. WHAT? Looks like Limbaugh controls the show--hilarious! Would love to know how the conservative rank and file feel about this. "

Leonard wrote on Mar 2, 2009 6:23 PM:

" Did anyone see this latest episode with Rush Limbaugh and Michale Steele?

The highest ranking black Republican in the country dares to call Limbaugh on his history of ugly incendiary hate mongering and, less than 48 hours later, he is brought politically hogtied before the Conservative grand master and forced to make a humiliating public apology.

Its like I tell Brian, we can't do much to discredit the conservatives, all we have to do is sit back and wait for them to discredit themselves.

A review of this incident should prove enlightening to those on these blogs who claim that Limbaugh is just an "entertainer". "

Gator wrote on Mar 2, 2009 11:03 AM:

" Mike "pertinence." "

Lodian wrote on Mar 2, 2009 9:54 AM:

" mainframe: Yes, he is one in the same. "

mike wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:47 PM:

" What is the pertanance of the n word and this story?
and 2 wrongs don't make a right but 3 lefts do. ?
Just with the moniker controversy, I say all the lefts are true to form on this forum and are going in circles doing their dangdest to ? "

Mainframe wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:29 PM:

" Brian: Are you also Onelasthing? "

Gator wrote on Feb 28, 2009 2:51 PM:

" onelastthing, your posting bares a strange resemblance to danielh, multiple post to make
a point!!! Remember two wrongs dont make it right!! Just because uneducated Blacks and Whites use it freely still doesnt make it right, it just makes them look Stupid!! Another way to look at it is to Talk Less and say more!! Failing that, Never miss the chance to just Shut up!!! "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Feb 28, 2009 1:42 PM:

" Perhaps the moderators can tell us whether the LNS thinks it is appropriate to use the n word on these forums.

If it is, then that is the end of it. If it is not, then Mr. Dockter apologizes and we all move on.

Objections anyone?

If not, I will send the email. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 11:47 AM:

" I'm sure there are many who don't support my use of the "N" word. However,
the manner by which it was used is just an off color joke. That being said, I don't feel they think it is racist and offensive at all.

Since you won't address the grips that I have about things that are really dividing America, case in point, Mr. B.O.'s agenda I have come to the conclusion that you really don't care about what happens to this country under a dictatorship. Have a nice day. "

voter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 11:34 AM:

" Brian, who on these boards has supported your use of the N word and not found it offensive and racist? "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 11:29 AM:

" I'm sure you can confer with Jackson and Sharpton that there is a time and a place for racism given they are dependent on advancing racism to make money. Thus the term "Race Hustler". You should be taking them to task.
They are the proponets of inventing racism in order to keep it alive. Obviously you aren't aware of their agenda.

I'm not one of your pupils you can indoctrinate, voter. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 11:24 AM:

" No, there is a time and a place for off color jokes. I don't think anything that I have said on these bloggs is racist. And I can confer with others
that agree with me. Obviously you don't agree with me. You're entitled to your opinion. Now can we move on? "

voter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 10:41 AM:

" Now you're asserting that there is a time and place for racism? "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 10:29 AM:

" Of course, unlike voter, I understand there is a time and a place for everything.

Voter, are you always this uptight?

FYI voter, Your buddy Obama is in the process of cutting the tax breaks people get for making charitable contributions. That being said, I should be taking you to task for not being smart enough to see what was coming when you voted for B.O. And so, during this time of lent, the Catholic church may very well have to be looking forward to less charitable contributions
because Obama feels these tax breaks were too much. "

voter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:56 AM:

" I'd like to hear that prayer, Brian. "Jesus, please help voter understand that offensive and racist jokes based on bigoted stereotypes are something you yourself would heartily enjoy during this season of lent. " "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:43 AM:

" Voter, then you'll have to take a good majority of the population to task to that think off color jokes are just what they are, jokes. I'm sure Clint Eastwood would still laugh at what Imus said. My, haven't you got this issue stuck in your craw. I'll pray for you. "

voter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:33 AM:

" You've reached rock bottom and have started to dig, Brian. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:30 AM:

" Nappy Headed Hoes.

It's still funny. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:28 AM:

" Voter wrote:
Anyone out there think Brian was just pulling your leg with the N word comment?

-I had a very good friend who is not the least bit racist or prejudice send the joke. Most of my friends and many if not most of the people who read these bloggs think PC is ridiculous and won't fall victim to it. Unlike you, they are not afraid to say a little off color joke at times. You need to take a valium and call me in the morning, sir. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:23 AM:

" voter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:15 AM:

" Brian, are you attempting to justify your use of hate speech by suggesting that you were just pulling our leg? Anyone out there think Brian was just pulling your leg with the N word comment?

Brian, just apologize. It's long past due. "

I won't apologize for a joke I did not author. And I really don't feel the least bit racist or a hate monger because of the joke. Get over it. My, aren't you sensitive. I'm sure you had the same response about Don Imus when he made comments about the Black women on the basketball team. I agree with
what Clint Eastwood says about political correctness. Read the post. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:16 AM:

" http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89676

President Obama has effectively undone many of the strides America has made on welfare reform. Many of the provisions in the stimulus bill are actually designed to reverse gains made on welfare reform. As Michael Tanner writes in the New York Post: "[T]he bill would reward states for increasing caseloads, even if the growth came because the state had loosened its requirements for recipients to work. This is radical change. States that succeed in getting people off welfare would lose the opportunity for increased federal funding. And states that make it easier to stay on welfare (by, say, raising the time limit from two years to five) would get rewarded with more taxpayer cash. The bill would even let states with rising welfare rolls still collect their 'case-load reduction' bonuses." "

voter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:15 AM:

" Brian, are you attempting to justify your use of hate speech by suggesting that you were just pulling our leg? Anyone out there think Brian was just pulling your leg with the N word comment?

Brian, just apologize. It's long past due. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:11 AM:

" voter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:04 AM:

" Well then we are finally in total agreement about something! Stan Taves must have been a little loopy when he purported to know Jesus' views on modern economic theory. "

-Not so fast. I know Stan Taves. I suspect he was just pulling our leg. But you ran with the notion he channels with Jesus on modern economic theory just to attempt to discredit him. Just like me and the "N" word, Stan Taves is also on your laundry list of people you have an axe to grind with.

You are the one that is a little loopy to think
anyone could actually do this. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:06 AM:

" http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89676

President Obama's high standard for cabinet appointees never materialized. During the campaign, Obama stumped frequently about the high purity standards that his cabinet and advisers would have to meet. However, this standard never materialized, as Obama has nominated numerous people with tax problems and lobbyists to fill out his top-level staff. Indeed, there have been few exceptions to this "purity standard" that the Obama administration has not been willing to make. "

voter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 9:04 AM:

" Well then we are finally in total agreement about something! Stan Taves must have been a little loopy when he purported to know Jesus' views on modern economic theory. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:54 AM:

" Voter wrote:
I am not commenting to disrespect your belief system. I only want to clarify where you are getting Jesus' views on modern economic theory. Is it from scripture or are you receiving this information some other way?

-For you to actually think that someone
has conversations with Jesus about complex economic theory borders on a little loopy. If you want to have a discussion about how Jesus influences us
then I'm game. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:50 AM:

" voter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:37 AM:

" And Brian, it is one thing to believe that God knows everything and quite another to say that he is whispering complex economic theory to you. Is that what you are asserting? "

-Not at all. My, have you awakened on the wrong side of the bed.

Actually, many people rely on their faith in the Lord to get through the day. I would suspect that those who are economists that are Christian would say their faith in the Lord makes it all tha much easer to solve complex economic problems. And as a result of my faith in the Lord I find it much more easier to think positively. The Lord is our guiding light. That being said, the Lord is a positive influence in our lives. But we all tend to digress at times. "

voter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:45 AM:

" Brian, is he communicating with you about complex economic theory? If so, please share.

I am not commenting to disrespect your belief system. I only want to clarify where you are getting Jesus' views on modern economic theory. Is it from scripture or are you receiving this information some other way? "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:40 AM:

" Evidently voter doesn't understand that Jesus knows everything. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:38 AM:

" Billy,

Perhaps it is too much for you and your ilk to move on.

I'll just keep on posting other things that divide America. Enough has neen discussed about the "N" word. But if you and your ilk want to continue down that road, be my guest. Not that racism is not important, but the way you and you ilk want to approach it doesn't solve anything. I'll just refer to Obama's approach to fixing the economy as "Jerry Rigging" just to make you happy. "

voter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:37 AM:

" And Brian, it is one thing to believe that God knows everything and quite another to say that he is whispering complex economic theory to you. Is that what you are asserting? "

voter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:35 AM:

" Brian, is Jesus in your heart? It seems unlikely that someone possessed of the holy spirit would be spewing hate in a public forum. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:31 AM:

" No, but I can point to scriptures that says Jesus is everywhere and is in everyone's hearts. Perhaps you don't have him in your heart that this is why you don't understand Jesus knows and understands everything that is going on.

Perhaps YOU should change your moniker to ONTHEVERGOFATHEISM. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:25 AM:

" Poor Brian looks like an octopus frantically flailing around pointing with all eight of his tentacles away from himself ("But what about abortion! Gay Marriage! It's Leonard's fault! It's Lodian's fault! Voter's fault!") in a failed effort to divert attention from his "N" ink cloud.

Jerome Kinderman was right. "Brian with half-a-brain..." "

voter wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:18 AM:

" Brian, I think "copyandpaste" would have been a more appropriate new moniker--you certainly have more than one last thing to say. Your fixation on my Jesus quote surprises me. As far as memory serves, the only comments Jesus made that even remotely relate to economic/government matters involve caring for one another, following the laws, and rendering unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. If you can point to some scripture where Jesus discusses global economic downturns, I'd be happy to read them. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:12 AM:

" Looks like Obama is dividing America

Another Clip from the article:

President Obama has increased the partisan divide in Washington. According to Rep. Dan Boren, D-Okla., "The problem is that [the stimulus bill] became a Democrat bill and not an American bill, because [Obama] didn't use any of the Republican ideas." Of course, during the campaign, President Obama promised to change the sharply partisan nature of Washington and govern in a bipartisan fashion. During the campaign, President Obama promised to "change the way Washington works" and "reach across the aisle" to "bridge partisan divides." However, his final stimulus bill was rejected by seven Democrats and supported by only three Republicans. This is not exactly what he promised during the campaign.


-But Lodian wants to talk about the "N" word. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 28, 2009 8:09 AM:

" http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89676

Report card: Obama's 1st 30 days

A clip:


President Obama is losing the Americans who should have the biggest hand in the recovery: small business leaders. According to the same ATI-News/Zogby poll, 56 percent of mainly small business leaders think President Obama's stimulus plan will make economic recovery harder, not easier. Only 32 percent thought it would be helpful to the economy. A staggering 60 percent of business leaders think Obama's bill spends too much on non-stimulus pork items, as opposed to real measures that will improve the economy. This is crucial, as these business leaders are the ones who will ultimately create the jobs, wealth and commerce that will turn around the economy. It is troubling that a clear majority of them see President Obama's plan as a hindrance, not a help. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 8:52 PM:

" http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/02/dead_end.html

Obama's Strange Habit of Denying What He's Doing

-Yep, I'm almost certain that Lodian would think that Obama's denial does not divide America. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 8:42 PM:

" http://www.nypost.com/seven/02272009/news/columnists/exploding_debt_load_for_bunch_of_freeloa_157206.htm

Obama's budget schemes to drain staggering amounts of money from people who worked for it and steer it to people who didn't.

This isn't the free market. It's the freeloader market.


-Indeed. But don't expect Lodian to agree that this divides America also.
She's still busy with voter talking about the "N" word. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 8:30 PM:

" voter wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:34 PM:

" Stan, when did the Jesus of Nazareth, a carpenter by trade, chronicled in the Bible become an expert on modern economic theory?

-Hmm, and you reducing Jesus from the KING of KINGS is not an issue either, OK voter. Now that I have been drawn and quartered to the nth degree by Leonard and his minions for a silly little joke about Obama I wonder what else I could bring up to keep them entertained. Since Leonard's convinced that Obama will not tax us until we bleed, perhaps he could offer some solution to who is going to pay all the stimulus money back without raising taxes? "

voter wrote on Feb 27, 2009 8:10 PM:

" Brian, your racism is well documented on these boards. A quote from an actor does not excuse your bigotry, nor do the actions of others (i.e. your attempt at subterfuge by bringing up abortion). "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 7:24 PM:

" Lodian, you said in another blogg you are pro choice. That means you are pro abortion sometimes. What part of you are pro abortion sometimes don't you understand? You bet this an important subject to discuss. But you want ot continue to dwell on the "N" word like it's more important than unborn babies being killed. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 7:14 PM:

" Lodian wrote,
Is this blog about abortion now? It seems you want to change the subject. Is it getting too hot in here for ya? It's weird that abortion would be your "go to" topic to escape the heat, but whatever. "

I think Clint Eastwood made it quite clear how he feels about political correctness. I agree with him 100%
I would love to talk about the issue of racism, abortion, same sex marriage. But Lodian has this axe to grind with me. Until she gets over it we'll just have to listen to her drivel until Leonard distracts her and she goes on to something else. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 7:07 PM:

" Well Lodian, many peeople would differ with you that you think the issue of abortion does not divide America. The very fact that you don't seem to recognize this reveals the truth about you that you don't think abortion is a big deal and you want to dwell on the "N" word. It seems to me everyone is aware of the joke gone bad with the "N" and now they want to move on.
Perhaps they may want to talk about how
the issue of abortion divides the country. Same sex marriage divides the country too. Oh but you don't think this does either. Please excuse us for wanting to expand the scope of what divdes the country while you DWELL on the "N" word. I'm getting the feeeling that the only way you will cease your rant about the "N" word is to literally
come to Lodi and kiss your butt while I am pleading for your forgiveness. Sorry, not possible. I work long hours
to provide for my family. If you think
I'm going to come to Lodi for that sole reason, you're out in left field farther than I thought. Have a nice evening. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 6:51 PM:

" Put this in your pipe and smoke it Lodian. Indeed you being the PC type
should have a few choice words for Clint. Should we be surprised? I think not.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1155360/Clint-Eastwood-goes-gunning-PC-killjoys-saying-laugh-race-based-jokes.html


Clint Eastwood goes gunning for PC killjoys by saying we should laugh at race-based jokes
By Allan Hall
Last updated at 1:16 AM on 26th February 2009

Clint Eastwood, who is promoting his new film Gran Torino, says political correctness has gone too far
Clint Eastwood believes the rise of political correctness is no laughing matter.

He says the world would be a better place if we could still laugh at inoffensive jokes about different races.

The Hollywood actor and director, 78, said we live in constant fear of being labelled racist for simply laughing about national stereotypes. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 27, 2009 4:48 PM:

" Like I said, it's people like Brian/onelastthing that divide America with those racist comments and name-calling (ie; "N" word). This is evidenced by his recent attempt to start up the very hot topic of abortion on a blog that has nothing to do with abortion. He just enjoys the division, the ol' "us" and "them" deal. Any minute now Brian/onelastthing will start in with his belief that black people are an inferior race, which seems to be one of his favorite topics. Go ahead, Brian/onelastthing, blow us away with your wisdom. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 27, 2009 4:41 PM:

" Brian/onelastthing: I am not pro abortion, but I am against the government making that choice for all women in this country. Is this blog about abortion now? It seems you want to change the subject. Is it getting too hot in here for ya? It's weird that abortion would be your "go to" topic to escape the heat, but whatever. "

ONELASTTHING wrote on Feb 27, 2009 3:54 PM:

" Lodian wrote on Feb 27, 2009 9:37 AM:

" Brian/onelastthing: None of your posts this morning make any sense. You're just rambling and making up topics and points I've never discussed.

HMM, You've brought up your pro choice position on abortion on several occasions. How convenient for you to forget. I didn't. And many others haven't forgotten either. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 27, 2009 3:49 PM:

" It's people like Brian/onelastthing that divide America with those racist comments and name-calling (ie; "N" word). "

Lodian wrote on Feb 27, 2009 3:47 PM:

" mike wrote "Ok I missed that, I stand corrected. Maybe my reading ain't so good..."

Ya got that right. In fact, your "reading comprehension is atrocious". LOL! "

Lodian wrote on Feb 27, 2009 3:44 PM:

" Mike wrote "I've been reading these long enough to know Brian doesn't need my sympathy. His contributions to many stories are worth reading."

Yes, they are worth reading if you need a good laugh. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 27, 2009 3:40 PM:

" mike wrote on Feb 27, 2009 3:04 PM:

His contributions to many stories are worth reading.


I absolutely agree. What blog would be complete without a self described conservative ranting on for hours about the inferiority of non white races? The fact that he occasionally tosses in a n bomb is just a bonus.

If it wasn't for the fact that a number of people around Lodi actually know Brian, I would be pretty suspicious that he was simply the creation of a clever liberal seeking to make the conservatives look bad. "

mike wrote on Feb 27, 2009 3:13 PM:

" Really shouldn't the thought of a bunch of millionaire "socialist" bankers be a red flag?
Are people really such lemmings that we just follow where ever we're led?
30 years ago Carter created the dept. of energy to "get away from foreign oil"
Now look at the size of that government entity and how successful they've been. "

mike wrote on Feb 27, 2009 3:04 PM:

" Ok I missed that, I stand corrected.
Maybe my reading ain't so good, OR maybe I just agreed with the statement and didn't consider it out of line considering the incessant harping on of others name usage?
I've been reading these long enough to know Brian doesn't need my sympathy. His contributions to many stories are worth reading.
Lodian you have my sympathy. "

Rhodie v2.0 wrote on Feb 27, 2009 12:20 PM:

" Mike, I think the chastisment on Lodians name came from Onelastthing here:

"By you posting as Lodian it really gives Lodi a bad name. Perhaps a more fitting name fo you would be pigslop." "

Lodian wrote on Feb 27, 2009 10:35 AM:

" Mike, a Brian sympathizer. Geez... LOL! "

Lodian wrote on Feb 27, 2009 10:34 AM:

" mike wrote on Feb 27, 2009 10:31 AM:

" Lodian; your reading comprehension is atrocious, (and you call Brian dim?)
I have yet to read you being chastised for your screen name. "


Then you haven't been reading these blogs very much. "

mike wrote on Feb 27, 2009 10:31 AM:

" Lodian; your reading comprehension is atrocious, (and you call Brian dim?)
I have yet to read you being chastised for your screen name. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 27, 2009 9:37 AM:

" Brian/onelastthing: None of your posts this morning make any sense. You're just rambling and making up topics and points I've never discussed. When you get back from your doctor's appointment this morning maybe you can "try" to have a meaningful dialogue with someone here without cussing, making more racist remarks and putting down the family of others. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 27, 2009 9:06 AM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 6:45 AM:

" Get over it Lodian. And I don't appreciate your inferrences that I'm not a good Father. Unless you don't want me to start inferring really personal attributes about you I suggest you BACK OFF. I work long and hard. How dare you imply these things. If you don't stop writing these untruths about me you'll not like what I may write about you. BACK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
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I see that Brian/onelastthing does not like the taste of his own medicine. Hey, Brian, right back at ya fella. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 27, 2009 9:04 AM:

" mike: Actually I think it's just ignorance, not "character/backbone" (chuckle), that has led these two to allow their real names to be exposed. Lodisafeway/gerard74/Jerome said as much himself back when he changed his name from gerard74 to Lodisafeway. He said he didn't realize his real name and personal information was so easily found online while he was using the name gerard74 so he changed it. And as for Brian/onelastthing, well we can consider the source. He's a little dim. And it's amusing that you don't think I've been chastised. :-) "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 7:32 AM:

" oops, Mike wrote that last paragraph.

Sorrrrrrry Lodian, voter. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 7:31 AM:

" I also think Mr safeway hit the nail on the head in his Feb 24, 11:45 AM post.
And as for playing loose and easy with the facts; concerning the screen name usage on these anonymous blogs, those who are being chastised most, have let their true identities be revealed, for reasons I'm unsure of, yet, it displays some character/backbone to stand behind their views.
Would "L and his minions"
(to use a phrase coined by Mr. safeway)be willing to do the same? "


-INDEED!!!!! "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 7:22 AM:

" Lodian could have just let this be. Now look at the mess she's gotten herself into. Oh, look at the time, I have to leave for work. TA TA "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 7:13 AM:

" I never thought I'd see the day where we have a person third in line to be President such a staunch supporter of a Faire where men walk around naked in public and perform sexual acts in plain
view of the public without any regard
for the children who may be present. I'm sure most of these children belong to same sex parents who think it's ok for them to see a man going down on another man in public. Whatever floats their boat. I'll pray for them. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 7:04 AM:

" Lodian, And I should also be taking you to task about your staunch approval
of Nancy Pelosi even though her congressional district is SF is where the Folsom Street Faire occurs. How you and her, or anyone can say this Faire cannot have any negative lasting effects
on adults AND the children who view the vulgarities that go on their is beyond me. But I won't. This is something you'll have to deal with when you stand in front of your maker.

Hav a nice day. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 6:55 AM:

" Lodian, I should be taking you to task
about your choice to be pro-murder of unborn babies but I won't because this is something you'll have to deal with when you stand in front of God after you die. I doubt if he'll be quite as critical with me about using the "N" word.

Just a reminder. Don't get my family (especially my children) involved in your feeble attempts to smeer me.

Have a nice day. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 27, 2009 6:45 AM:

" Get over it Lodian. And I don't appreciate your inferrences that I'm not a good Father. Unless you don't want me to start inferring really personal attributes about you I suggest you BACK OFF. I work long and hard. How dare you imply these things. If you don't stop writing these untruths about me you'll not like what I may write about you. BACK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

mike wrote on Feb 26, 2009 7:47 PM:

" I generally agree with Mr. Stamos.
This "trickle down socialism" that comes with the bailouts makes me wonder where is the outrage of the thinking populace.
I also think Mr safeway hit the nail on the head in his Feb 24, 11:45 AM post.
And as for playing loose and easy with the facts; concerning the screen name usage on these anonymous blogs, those who are being chastised most, have let their true identities be revealed, for reasons I'm unsure of, yet, it displays some character/backbone to stand behind their views.
Would "L and his minions"
(to use a phrase coined by Mr. safeway)be willing to do the same? "

WCPatty wrote on Feb 26, 2009 10:17 AM:

" Just a thought: It might be stupid bickering, stemming from buying into agenda-generated labels, that is doing the dividing. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 26, 2009 9:07 AM:

" onlastthing/Brian Dockter: Watch the clip...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEVmAbxC14g

You can call me names all day long, Brian. I just consider the source and character of such a person. People do not want to be called the "N" word, Brian/onelastthing. Try to refrain from using such language. No one here on the boards appreciates your racist remarks or your cussing. And no one is impressed. It only shows your lack of ability to articulate yourself as a mature adult as well as reveals your true character and personal racist views. You probably have some extra time in your day, since you are out of work, so maybe this is a good time to educate yourself and build a little character. I would say that your daughter deserves no less. Wouldn't you? A daughter wants a daddy she can look up to and be proud of, Brian. Do the right thing. "

stantaves wrote on Feb 26, 2009 9:03 AM:

" This incessant drivel is really quite amazing. I think you guys may need a "time-out"; at least another thread that you can get tangled in. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 26, 2009 7:22 AM:

" " Lodian wrote on Feb 25, 2009 9:50 AM:

Brian/onelastthing wants to make sure we all know he is not black.

-As i said in another post, if I was Black I would be proud of my heritage.
Lodian, please stop advancing untruths.
You need to apologize to the Black Community for inferring I feel that way. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 26, 2009 7:08 AM:

" mainframe wrote on Feb 25, 2009 9:57 PM:

" Great link Lodian. People need to get over the whole N word deal and leave that word in the past and forget it. Nobody needs to be called that word again. "

-Absolutely, had Leonard not brought up the joke again (it was in bad taste) we could have moved on. I suspect he wanted
to rub it in a little more. This is what he tends to do. It's almost like he's a little angel who doesn't do anything wrong and has to point out human fallacies of others. Perhaps
he's always tended to want to tattle all the while he's the biggest devil of them all. You know that tattle tail always eventually got his butt whipped by the kids who were tired of him not keeping his mouth shut. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 26, 2009 7:00 AM:

" Now that I have added a new word to describe Lodian, let's see if Leonard advances on it so Lodian has something else to run with. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 26, 2009 6:48 AM:

" Lodian wrote:
Brian changed his name to onelasthting because he's a whining little coward. He also thought he was going to get suspended from the boards since he cussed me out, again, so he quickly invented a new blog name. Ah, such is the way of Brian/onelastthing. It's the weak character and lies we have come to expect. I wonder how long it will take for him to cuss someone out while using his new handle. Oh wait! He's already cussed out Leonard today! Geez, his character didn't take long to ooze through, once again. (chuckle)
-Chuckle, Like I said, if you want to get together and have a real discussion . I don't see any posts where I cussed out Leonard. It seems to me you are the one that is lying. And I'm not surprised YOU won't ake voter to task either about how he minimized Jesus's existence. And you call yourself a Christian. Give us all a break and crawl back in your hole and stay there.
By you posting as Lodian it really gives Lodi a bad name. Perhaps a more fitting name fo you would be pigslop. "

mainframe wrote on Feb 25, 2009 9:57 PM:

" Great link Lodian. People need to get over the whole N word deal and leave that word in the past and forget it. Nobody needs to be called that word again. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 25, 2009 1:42 PM:

" Okay, this is for Brian (aka "onelastthing").......

Richard Pryor on the "N" Word

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEVmAbxC14g

*Warning: strong language (as if that was a secret) "

Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 11:07 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Feb 25, 2009 10:15 AM:

" Brian, why the anger? Someone needs a hug


Chuckle... "

Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 11:05 AM:

" Lodian wrote on Feb 25, 2009 9:50 AM:

Brian/onelastthing wants to make sure we all know he is not black.


I think what they are trying to say is that Brian is white and onelastthing is black.

Wasn't there a movie about this in the 1970's with Richard Pryor? "

Cogito wrote on Feb 25, 2009 10:15 AM:

" Brian, why the anger? Someone needs a hug. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 25, 2009 10:04 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 12:58 AM:

" Brian, the fact that you are posting under two names and that you refer to the President of the United States as a "n**g*r" tends to further erode your credibility which, frankly, was already at an all time low.

Why don't you pick one name and stick with it? "
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Brian changed his name to onelasthting because he's a whining little coward. He also thought he was going to get suspended from the boards since he cussed me out, again, so he quickly invented a new blog name. Ah, such is the way of Brian/onelastthing. It's the weak character and lies we have come to expect. I wonder how long it will take for him to cuss someone out while using his new handle. Oh wait! He's already cussed out Leonard today! Geez, his character didn't take long to ooze through, once again. (chuckle) "

Lodian wrote on Feb 25, 2009 9:50 AM:

" LOL "

Lodian wrote on Feb 25, 2009 9:50 AM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:10 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:05 AM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 6:48 AM:

He obviously isn't aware of the innner city dialect of Blacks.

Wow Brian! You are black? I would have never guessed!

-Chuckle, LHS class of 1982, Brian Dockter. Take another look Leonard. "
----------------

Brian/onelastthing wants to make sure we all know he is not black. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 25, 2009 9:48 AM:

" The Armstrong and Getty slogan...

"Think for yourself"

What a concept! "

Lodian wrote on Feb 25, 2009 9:47 AM:

" Cogito: I listen to Armstrong and Getty everyday! I love those guys! "

Cogito wrote on Feb 25, 2009 9:26 AM:

" Gator, try Armstrong and Getty @650 AM. Not always politics, but common sense and good guests, plus a lot of fun. Looks like the market is reacting to Odumas ideas again (down 150). Financial forecasters have no confidence in this guy. "

Gator wrote on Feb 25, 2009 9:17 AM:

" All I can say about the majority of talk radio is Rush and Al Franken are like
Peas in a pod preaching to the Choir. I used to listen to Dennis Miller but he
was replaced by Rush!! I havent listened since.. Someone called in and said The difference between Rush and Miller, Miller appealed to people who could think for them selves!! "

Cogito wrote on Feb 25, 2009 9:17 AM:

" Gator, Als it is! Sounds good to me. "

Jeff wrote on Feb 25, 2009 8:38 AM:

" 'Are you saying Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?' "

stantaves wrote on Feb 25, 2009 8:23 AM:

" Another day, another post, but who will back-bite you the most? Will it be leonard, or voter dude, yeah, onelastthing is pretty crude. But in the end, that just won't come, Yes we all are looking pretty dumb. "

Gator wrote on Feb 25, 2009 8:06 AM:

" Mistake I left off Candy!!! "

Gator wrote on Feb 25, 2009 8:05 AM:

" Cogito, make it Al the Wops Ill give it some thoughtIts hard to say how big his
Cajones are!! But at the same time our friends missed a golden opportunity to remove
our entire Government on inauguration day and the same goes for New Years day in
times squareI also find it of interest that we have a Black ops unit working in Pakistan
and we still are sending drones into Pakistan to kill the TalibanIt all boils down to if,
Ifs and buts were nuts we would all have a merry Christmas!!! "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:42 AM:

" Cogito,

Indeed! "

Cogito wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:36 AM:

" Jesus a socialist? I guess if I had the ability to heal people with my touch, feed huge crowds with a couple of loaves of bread and a few fish, or turn water into wine, I might be a little more benevolent too. But since president Oduma is incapable of doing any of those things, and the only way he's capable of coming close is to steal money away from those that earned it in order to carry out his ideas, I'll stay anti-socialist. Like Rush says, when it comes to socialism, I hope he fails. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:17 AM:

" Leonard wrote:

Please explain this apparent discrepancy further. "

-I never claimed to be the author of the joke with the "N" word. And if I was Black I surely wouldn't be denying that heritage as you seem to think I want to. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:14 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:09 AM:

" I think Jesus had some pretty clear ideas about economics. Frankly, his views, as enumerated in the Gospels, bordered on Socialism.

-I think we can conclude that all types of government have socialism in them. Some more than others. Not all socialism is bad. That being said... "

Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:13 AM:

" Perhaps you were "passing", as they used to say, during your time in Lodi?

Please explain this apparent discrepancy further. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:12 AM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:10 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:05 AM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 6:48 AM:

He obviously isn't aware of the innner city dialect of Blacks.

Wow Brian! You are black? I would have never guessed!

-Chuckle, LHS class of 1982, Brian Dockter. Take another look Leonard.


I'm confused by your assertion that you are now black. Did you have a skin transplant? "

Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:11 AM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:08 AM:

I find it interesting that you have an axe to grind with anyone and Jesus about their belief in limited government


Brian, if you are through mindlessly using the n word for the moment, perhaps you can give some scriptural support for your assertion? "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:11 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:05 AM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 6:54 AM:

-Are you going to take to task all the Blacks who still use this word referring to other Blacks and tell them
their credibility is also in question?

If they do it in front of me?

Absolutely. "

-Talk is cheap. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:10 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:05 AM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 6:48 AM:

He obviously isn't aware of the innner city dialect of Blacks.

Wow Brian! You are black? I would have never guessed!

-Chuckle, LHS class of 1982, Brian Dockter. Take another look Leonard. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:09 AM:

" I think Jesus had some pretty clear ideas about economics. Frankly, his views, as enumerated in the Gospels, bordered on Socialism.

As a Christian and a Capitalist, I have reconciling these views to be one of the challenges in my life. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:08 AM:

" Voter, I find it interesting that you have an axe to grind with anyone and Jesus about their belief in limited government. I can see why you would not want to talk about Jindal's response. He believes that the solution to the economy is not growing government. Obviously you differ with him. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:05 AM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 6:54 AM:

-Are you going to take to task all the Blacks who still use this word referring to other Blacks and tell them
their credibility is also in question?


If they do it in front of me?

Absolutely. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:05 AM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 6:48 AM:

He obviously isn't aware of the innner city dialect of Blacks.


Wow Brian! You are black? I would have never guessed! "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:03 AM:

" voter, if I was hiding I would be questioning why you are calling me Brian. All the worlds a stage and we are just players. Onelastthing sounded like a good stage name. It makes it all that much more entertaining. Please entertain us with your thoughts about Jesus again now that you have reduced him from King of Kings. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 6:58 AM:

" Voter, and what's wrong with limited government? Please tell us you were just joking when you implied Jesus has no idea what's going on in modern times.

Are you to conclude that Jindal's words deserve no merit? "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 6:54 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 12:58 AM:

" Brian, the fact that you are posting under two names and that you refer to the President of the United States as a "n**g*r" tends to further erode your credibility which, frankly, was already at an all time low.

-Are you going to take to task all the Blacks who still use this word referring to other Blacks and tell them
their credibility is also in question?
Get over it Leonard. "

voter wrote on Feb 25, 2009 6:48 AM:

" Brian, step out from behind your new hiding place. I imagine that most of us saw Jindal's response live on TV, so what is the point of your post? On the other matter, I found it interesting that Stan was receiving advice on economic theory from Jesus, who apparently favors limited government. I'm still smiling. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 25, 2009 6:48 AM:

" voter wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:34 PM:

" Stan, when did the Jesus of Nazareth, a carpenter by trade, chronicled in the Bible become an expert on modern economic theory? "

Hmm, Leonard doesn't seem to have a problem with this statement either.
Is he also suggesting that if Jesus were to return today he would have no idea what is going on and would just want his carpenter job back? I figured he would be a lot more offended by voter reducing Jesus from the King of Kings to a man who swings a hammer. He, instead wants us to focus on the "N" word like it's the first time he ever heard of the term "N" rigged. Is he going to take to task the author of the joke that was posted. How does he know the author wasn't black? Don't criticize the messenger, Leonard. Blacks do tend to still call eachother the "N" word quite often. He obviously isn't aware of the innner city dialect of Blacks. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 25, 2009 12:58 AM:

" Brian, the fact that you are posting under two names and that you refer to the President of the United States as a "n**g*r" tends to further erode your credibility which, frankly, was already at an all time low.

Why don't you pick one name and stick with it? "

Onelastthing wrote on Feb 24, 2009 10:12 PM:

" Republican for a Reason

http://blip.tv/file/1435572

Indeed! "

Onelastthing wrote on Feb 24, 2009 10:08 PM:

" Governor Bobby Jindal Gives The Republican Response To Barack Obama's Congressional Address on February 24, 2009

http://blip.tv/file/1812286 "

Onelastthing wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:56 PM:

" Frankly, I've never heard of anyone chronicle anywhere, in so many words, that Jesus cannot exist in all of our hearts at the same time. "

Onelastthing wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:53 PM:

" I'm anxiously awaiting an answer from voter why he feels that Christ can't possibly be everywhere all the time. "

Onelastthing wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:45 PM:

" Voter, Are you also going to take Jesus to task for saying he is the Alpha and the Omega? "

Onelastthing wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:42 PM:

" voter wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:34 PM:

" Stan, when did the Jesus of Nazareth, a carpenter by trade, chronicled in the Bible become an expert on modern economic theory? "

-Voter, Most poeople alive today, regardless of their religion, understand that Jesus is fully aware and understands what's going on in these modern times. Even Muslims don't deny Jesus's existence. Many if all would find that you don't think Jesus is up to speed on issues as a little naive. That being said, what makes you think that Jesus cannot be aware and cannot undrstand modern economic theory? "

Cogito wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:42 PM:

" Onelastthing, Leonard ROCKS! I rarely agree, but always enjoy our exchanges. So what he can be an a*s, who here isn't? O.K., maybe Sam, but he/she has pis*ed me off too! But we're friends here. "

Cogito wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:37 PM:

" Gator, we haven't been attacked since 9/11. Wanna bet dinner and drinks at Giustis that we get attacked in the next 4 years? "

voter wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:34 PM:

" Always interesting to note that those who rail against the supposed "moral decline" of America, or liberals, or whoever is the bogeyman of the day, are often the ones using the most vulgar language. "

Onelastthing wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:26 PM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Feb 24, 2009 11:45 AM:

That way, only you will be able to dictate the course of the conversations, as you attempt to do here (albeit unsuccessfully in most cases)

-No one on these bloggs attempts to dictate the course of these conversations as persistently as Leonard. He attempts to take anyone to task when they don't say it EXACTLY how he wants it to be. There are many that used to regularly post on these bloggs that will no long post as often because
Leonard won't keep his f&*(ing mouth shut. he so desperately wants to be the unofficial moderator here. His mere actions demonstrates how he wants to be in control here. And there are those here who have to remind him on a regular basis that he isn't the only one with an opinion or a perspective. "

Gator wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:03 PM:

" Polls are as accurate as statistics, it depends on how they are loaded. Polls are about as
Accurate as your local TV WeathermanGore and Kerry are one thing I can agree with
you on The polls and News papers made Thomas Dewey a very unhappy man!!! "

Gator wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:53 PM:

" Well this country danced and now its time to pay the fiddler. W , Cheney and Bremer along with Rumsfeld did their level best to lose the war in Iraq, Gen Petraeus Saved their
A**.. Afghanistan is a mess, now its up to Petraeus to save the day there. Just a thought
Other than Reagan # 10 on the ten best list, just what has the so-called Conservative wing
Of the Republican party done for America, By the way two of Petraeuss Advisors are
Sadi Othman a Palestinian American raised in Jordan and educated by pacifist Mennonites and Emma Sky, a British Middle East expert who is fiercely anti-war, strange
but they are getting the job done "

Cogito wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:38 PM:

" Good reference Voter, I DID notice that the best president of the bunch had the lowest approval at this point. Shows you what the people know. But then again, I guess we found that out about a month ago. "

voter wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:34 PM:

" Stan, when did the Jesus of Nazareth, a carpenter by trade, chronicled in the Bible become an expert on modern economic theory? "

voter wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:30 PM:

" Go to poll tracker if you want to see the analysis of all the polls. Some of you have not gotten the whole story.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/polltracker/2009/02/approval-rating-high-obama-has.html "

stantaves wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:25 PM:

" It's true Leonard, Jesus was a lib. However, libs from the era of old believed in limited govt; unlike the libs of today that believe govt and/or law creation provides the answer to all ills. "

Cogito wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:25 PM:

" Also Gator, before tonight I was getting ready to dump 5 figures into the market. Now, I'm not so sure. This guy redefines "fuzzy math". "

Cogito wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:21 PM:

" Gator, did you bother checking the link? Gallup is one of the most respected pollsters in history. I'm sure much less biased than a major news organization. As far as voting for Bush, so did I, and I would again if he ran against Gore or Kerry. And I hate what he did to my party. "

Gator wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:15 PM:

" ABC rating for Obama 65% ok , 25%, no. 10% no opinion Carters ratings didnt fall this early after all its only been one month, who are you trying to kid!! W ranks 5th from the bottom and I voted for him twice. I also voted for Carter so there is three mistake I made and am Big enough to admit it.. As an independent I hope Obama comes through, after all W was AWOL for his last three years and sure as hell didnt help the situation!!! "

Cogito wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:14 PM:

" I watched an empty suit, with wonderful oratory skills, write a bunch of checks his innumerate a** can't cash. Scuse me for not having a cult mind. "

Gator wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:00 PM:

" I didnt vote for the man but I said I would give him a chance, we disagree on Gun control
right off. But that can be worked out!! To-night I watched the most impressive speech in
the last eight years!! It was refreshing to say the least and about time "

Cogito wrote on Feb 24, 2009 6:49 PM:

" Perspective: Latest Oduma approval rating lower than Carter at the same point in their presidencies. "

Cogito wrote on Feb 24, 2009 6:47 PM:

" Leonard, your 9:10 post, I agree. Especially with the last sentence. "

Cogito wrote on Feb 24, 2009 6:45 PM:

" Voter, newest opinion poll: Oduma approval rating, 59% and fading fast. www.gallup.com/Home.aspx "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 6:35 PM:

" t jefferson wrote on Feb 24, 2009 4:12 PM:

Contrast that with modern Liberal, who are trying to get any type of creator out of everything to the point of relative moralism....bad news if you ask me.


I know many liberals who are also practicing Christians.

Heck, with all his emphasis on Peace, Justice and giving to the poor, Christ himself would be to the left of most so called American liberals. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 6:33 PM:

" t jefferson wrote on Feb 24, 2009 4:12 PM:
" L - Jeffersonian bible - read parts of it, don't own it - public domain and all. If you are insinuating that Jefferson didn't believe in God, I am going to have to say you are wrong. His God was not the Holy roller some now believe in, but it was a supreme being/creator non the less.


Jefferson rewrote the New Testament omitting any reference to a supernatural deity.

Now, as a Christian, I prefer my Bible with a supernatural deity but the larger point is that American politicians were secularizing public discourse long before the first modern Liberal was born. "

voter wrote on Feb 24, 2009 4:59 PM:

" Bry, I don't think it is the "government" per se that is dividing us--and really, we're not all that divided. Almost 70% of the public thinks the president is doing well. Right now, we've got a certain faction of the republican party (who clearly do not speak for the majority of republicans) who label every move by Obama as negative and evil. That tends to be divisive, especially with nut-job radio fanning the flames. "

voter wrote on Feb 24, 2009 4:49 PM:

" tjeff, two questions for you: first, do you have a problem with the separation of church and state, and second, it sounds like you think belief in any creator is better than no creator at all. Did I make the correct inference? "

t jefferson wrote on Feb 24, 2009 4:12 PM:

" L - Jeffersonian bible - read parts of it, don't own it - public domain and all. If you are insinuating that Jefferson didn't believe in God, I am going to have to say you are wrong. His God was not the Holy roller some now believe in, but it was a supreme being/creator non the less. Many of the founders believed this way, had a lot to do with Deism. Contrast that with modern Liberal, who are trying to get any type of creator out of everything to the point of relative moralism....bad news if you ask me. "

Gator wrote on Feb 24, 2009 3:33 PM:

" The way I see it if it is a CEO of a major Bank or company, or your city councilmen,
State or federal Congressman or Senator if they are not doing what they were put in
Place to do, Remove Them!! If its just incompetence simply Fire them with no
golden Parachute. If it is Criminal put them in a hard core Lock up, no white Collar
country club prison for those clowns.. If these people get the Idea that the people are
serious things will change, some folks have to fall hard to make believers out them..
For folks like Bernie Madoff five years in Guantanamo would be fitting!! Although
If Bernie screwed the Goodfellas out of three hundred Million as has been reported he just might have jumped the shark for the last time!!! "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 2:25 PM:

" Lodian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 2:08 PM

LOL! Classic hypocrite! "


Hypocrisy is Jerome's defining characteristic.

It is his hypocrisy that makes it so easy for us to identify him each time his shame causes him to adopt a new moniker. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 2:24 PM:

" Gator wrote on Feb 24, 2009 2:10 PM:

" Government is dividing America, interesting theory, but just a theory just the same.. I see
it as Indifference.


This is an interesting point.

For many of the Founding Father's, their primary experience of government came through New England Town Hall style Democracy.

The level of disinterest shown by most Americans these days would be absolutely shocking to them. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 2:12 PM:

" Keep up with NOT putting anyone down there ol' Lodisafeway/gerard74/Jerome. Thanks for the laugh. At least you moved ever so slightly away from that monotone drivel (YaWn) that you usually post. (chuckle)

You may actually have a pulse. "

Gator wrote on Feb 24, 2009 2:10 PM:

" Government is dividing America, interesting theory, but just a theory just the same.. I see
it as Indifference.. Election time lots of people get wound up and seem to care, you vote
and that is where it stops!! Then we shift into neutral and just let the government coast!!
oh we scream like a mashed Cat but it goes no farther. You have a computer, a phone and
two feet !! You e-mail, Make Phone calls and take your two feet into your local, State and
Federal politicians office!! The office holders are not dummies, they dont hear from their
Constituents they tend to get the Idea there doing swell!! Government starts at the city council and ends on Pennsylvania avenueIf you dont get involved you have no one to
blame but your self!! We have met the enemy and It-R-Us!! (pogo) "

Lodian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 2:08 PM:

" Geez... In one post Lodisafeway/gerard74/Jerome says...

"Lodian... I don't put anyone down"

And then he goes on to say...

"That type of comment reflects an absence of either brain matter or integrity on your part; much as it does regarding Leonard's recent comments as well. But I have to admit that most of the time you guys really are funny; although I know you aren't trying to be. And that makes it even more hilarious!"


LOL! Classic hypocrite! "

Lodian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 2:04 PM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Feb 24, 2009 1:50 PM:

" Yeah, Lodian - you really support the notion of "fun" here, don't you? Now I'm really laughing."

Like I said... fun fun fun! "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 1:54 PM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Feb 24, 2009 1:50 PM:

But I have to admit that most of the time you guys really are funny; although I know you aren't trying to be. And that makes it even more hilarious!


We live to entertain you Jerome. "

lodisafeway wrote on Feb 24, 2009 1:50 PM:

" Yeah, Lodian - you really support the notion of "fun" here, don't you? Now I'm really laughing. Of course, if your idea of fun is attempting to run everyone into the ground who simply don't line up behind you and others who believe as you do, then I suppose you're being accurate. Still, I don't put anyone down; but I do point out salient issues as they become necessary.

That type of comment reflects an absence of either brain matter or integrity on your part; much as it does regarding Leonard's recent comments as well.

But I have to admit that most of the time you guys really are funny; although I know you aren't trying to be. And that makes it even more hilarious! "

wtf wrote on Feb 24, 2009 1:26 PM:

" I came across this interesting item

http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2008/10/23/homes-of-minnesota-politicians-vandalized-for-supporting-the-fraudulent-banker-bailout/

And on another blog, it asked if readers thought that Minnesotans were really outraged over this. The majority said NO; so it seems that the MSM is trying to manufacture consent for the congresscritters on both sides of the aisle.

http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2009/02/22/angry-citizens-spray-paint-congressmans-car-and-home/

The title of this letter is "The government is dividing America" - with that I wholeheartedly agree...just look at how we go at each other on the blogs. LOL!

And over what?

The gubmint is most likely afeared that if we ever get together and turn our sites on them, they're done for! ;) "

wtf wrote on Feb 24, 2009 1:24 PM:

" Bryan wrote: "...neither Republican nor Democrat politicians represent the people of America. These self-minded politicians represent themselves."

Leonard wrote: "...politicians from both parties make their livings by exploiting wedge issues and, in doing so, inflate what would otherwise be minor differences into great divides."

I think both of you are right on the money. Those who are allegedly our "representatives" - aren't. More and more lately, it seems that when it comes to listening to the American people, they're deaf....and yes, the MSM is in on the propaganda efforts against Americans. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 12:36 PM:

" Jerome, it is obvious that you and I disagree on the shape of the earth and whether the sun comes up in the west or the east.

That is fine and, in most cases, it is disagreement and discussion that makes these blogs worth reading.

In your case, however, it is simply impossible to overlook the oozing, oily hypocrisy that coats everyone of your posts like mucous.

Its hard to imagine what it is that causes you to see your own faults in all of those around you. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 12:33 PM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Feb 24, 2009 11:45 AM:

That way, only you will be able to dictate the course of the conversations, as you attempt to do here (albeit unsuccessfully in most cases)


Chuckle...

Isn't that exactly what you are trying to do in this post?

I was unaware that the LNS had appointed you net nanny but, Jerome, I congratulate you on your new position. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 12:25 PM:

" Bryan Stamos: Hate divides America. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 12:23 PM:

" People with thin skin and self issues tend to call a debate an attack on them personally. These are also the people that tend to change handles on a dime. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 12:18 PM:

" lodisafeway: These boards are for discussion, debate and the sharing of facts as well as personal views and opinions. Also, fun and personality is all too welcome! Try it sometime. You have the reputation of being one of the worst here when it comes to "put downs", although you try to disguise them in your monotone posts, so you can go ahead and stop acting like you are some sort of "good guy" on these blogs. You carry your detest for others to every single blog. You are Brian are really wound too tight. Chill out dude.

Anyway... "

lodisafeway wrote on Feb 24, 2009 11:45 AM:

" Leonard, what you have obviously been attempting to do at the Lodi News-Sentinel's expense, is to turn this reader opinion forum into your own personal resource for attacking those with whom you disagree. And while such discourse is acceptable as it pertains to the issues at hand, your carrying over your war against people you do not even know from subject-to-subject is quite telling of your own character; something that if ever called into question you immediately cry "unfair" or "hands off."

I suggest that if you really desire to have your own brand of "Leonard's Legionnaires" you invest your own time and money and publish a blog-site of your very own. That way, only you will be able to dictate the course of the conversations, as you attempt to do here (albeit unsuccessfully in most cases). I wonder though just how many "hits" you would receive, aside from the usual cast of characters that desperately need your validation to stay afloat in their pathetic little lives. My belief is that it would suffer the same fate as Air America. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 11:43 AM:

" We saw this same phenomenon just the other day in the letter from Sam West who claimed that Senators appoint there own replacements and that Bobby Kennedy was a Senator before he became Attorney General, among other things.

The truth is these peoples' enemy.

Facts are like Kryptonite to them. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 11:40 AM:

" stantaves wrote on Feb 24, 2009 10:36 AM:

" What are trying to say Leo?


What am I trying to say? Well, I would have thought that after repeating myself 3 times it would be clear but I guess I will have to try again.

I am saying that conservatives like Mr Stamos have no regard for the facts.

I am saying that conservatives like Mr Stamos regularly misattribute quotes and misrepresent history as it serves their ends.

I am saying that Mr Stamos' brand of conservatism, as displayed in his many letters to this paper, is founded on a fundamental dishonesty that pervades all of its expressions.

There, is that clear enough for you Stan? "

stantaves wrote on Feb 24, 2009 10:36 AM:

" What are trying to say Leo? that even Jethro Bodine knows the nat mott. Leo, your intellectual prowess is second to none, which makes your lack of understanding quite befuddling. "

stantaves wrote on Feb 24, 2009 10:28 AM:

" If you feed it it will grow. Clearly we have been feeding our govt too much. The left, however just says "more food!", all the while ignoring the gluttony they have fascilitated. I presume their faith is grounded in the notion that bureaucratic monsters are friends to be trusted. Hey, I understand that their own inadequacy has driven them to befriend that which is inherently evil. I guess the left will finally get it, once their pet monster puts them in its belly. "Yum Yum" says their pet. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 10:06 AM:

" stantaves wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:54 AM:

This stuff is very simple


Indeed. Even a 4th grader knows the national motto. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 10:05 AM:

" stantaves wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:54 AM:

" Mr. Stamos has made valid statements for which he has recieved undue ridicule.


As I said before, Stamos' brand of conservatism is defined by its adherents gross disregard for the facts. "

stantaves wrote on Feb 24, 2009 10:01 AM:

" Big brains, thin skins, and thick skulls -- is that why libs have such a hard time holding their heads up? "

stantaves wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:54 AM:

" Mr. Stamos has made valid statements for which he has recieved undue ridicule. This stuff is very simple; clearly too simple for you big brainiacs on the left. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:50 AM:

" stantaves: That's odd. I see Lodisafeway/gerard/Jerome and Brian/onelastthing as the biggest bullies here, of course only second to their good friend, real facts (who has obviously been reincarnated here on the blogs). "

Lodian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:41 AM:

" I see that Bryan Stamos is not a fan of diversity. "

stantaves wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:38 AM:

" Oh, Leo! Clearly you would like to fashion yourself as a cyber-bully of sorts -- whatever floats your boat. Might I suggest, however, that you pick on someone your own size. Over at the huff and puffington post you will surely find someone as small as yourself -- but then you wouldn't have anything to argue about now would you? "

Lodian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:33 AM:

" It's not surprising that Brian lied after stomping off in a big huff on the other blog and stating that he will never be back. A few minutes later a new blog name shows up when "onelastthing" arrives with the same attacks. Hmmm, does Brian really think he's fooling anyone. Too funny.

How's Phoenix Brian/onelasatthing? "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:10 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:45 AM:

" I would think that the growing division in our country starts with its citizens, and is then reflected by our government. The voters vote for those who tell them what they want to hear, and those elected try to get their constituents what they want in order to keep their seats on the power gravy train. We are becoming a nation of people who want everything, and we don't want to pay for it. Therein lies the problem. And as for "United we stand, divided we fall", that was by "The Brotherhood of Man".


I disagree. I think that, if you were to examine the opinions of most Americans in a non partisan fashion, you would find that we are generally in agreement on most issues.

Unfortunately, politicians from both parties make their livings by exploiting wedge issues and, in doing so, inflate what would otherwise be minor differences into great divides. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:59 AM:

" Brian, I had thought that you had left these pages for ever.

Care to apologize for your use of the N-Bomb? "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:58 AM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:43 AM:

You seized upon a weak opportunity in an attempt to undermine the credibility of a letter because of a simple mistake.


No Jerome, Mr Stamos has been undermining his own credibility for years on these pages by consistently misrepresenting the history of our country. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:55 AM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:43 AM:

" No, Leonard, you weren't pointing out "mismisattribution" of anything


Wow Jerome. I am amazed to discover that you are magically able to divine my intentions.

I hadn't realized that we were that close.

Next time I go drinking in a bar in Lodi, I certainly will be more careful to limit my consumption.

:) "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:53 AM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:44 AM:

-Leonard implies that this statement has less credence since it was coined by Ford.


No, I am implying that the author of this letter has less credence because he misattributes quotes. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:52 AM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:45 AM:

" God has been driven out of every other government activity by liberals


You know B, I would think that even you would appreciate the irony of this statement being made by a guy calling himself T. Jefferson. "

Cogito wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:45 AM:

" I would think that the growing division in our country starts with its citizens, and is then reflected by our government. The voters vote for those who tell them what they want to hear, and those elected try to get their constituents what they want in order to keep their seats on the power gravy train. We are becoming a nation of people who want everything, and we don't want to pay for it. Therein lies the problem. And as for "United we stand, divided we fall", that was by "The Brotherhood of Man". "

lodisafeway wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:43 AM:

" No, Leonard, you weren't pointing out "mismisattribution" of anything. You seized upon a weak opportunity in an attempt to undermine the credibility of a letter because of a simple mistake. Had Mr. Stamos invented the quote out of whole cloth and insisted that Jefferson uttered it, then you'd have a point. Instead, there is no argument from you regarding what the quote represents; only which president was it that uttered it. Rather pathetic, actually.

Simply making your point that the guy made a mistake (to which I just admitted myself) would have made you appear to be more intelligent and thoughtful than how you look now with your overreaching attempt to make all conservatives appear "intellectually dishonest."

Liberals need to be very careful here. The second in command, Joe Biden, is the poster boy for intellectual dishonesty. His gaffes and outright plagiarism are legendary. I can also suspect that President Obama will misstep along his four-year journey as well. Let's see how liberals will defend them when the former continues on his path of fraudulence and the latter exposes himself as nothing more than a man (not deity) susceptible to error. "

lodisafeway wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:25 AM:

" Okay, Mr. Stamos got a few things wrong in his letter; much as I apparently did when I attributed the aforementioned quote to Thomas Jefferson in a post not too long ago on this very forum. Clearly, my source was incorrect and I should have been more diligent.

However, let's say it was Gerald Ford who made that statement. At least then it's timelier in its sentiment; but no one has challenged its accuracy. Clearly, Ford was faced with much more challenging issues than President Obama. As the only president not elected to office (of which he was constantly reminded) he had to find a way to heal a nation badly fractured by Vietnam and Watergate. History hasn't been altogether unkind to him for his efforts.

It's the guy who followed Ford that Obama appears to be taking his cues from. Carter was the ultimate in doom and gloom; with his era of malaise. He might have been a nice guy, but Carter (and so far Obama) didn't "do" much with his four years at the helm. Obama needs to start over while he still has the chance or face the same fate. "

lodisafeway wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:00 AM:

" Wow! It sure seems like a lot of folks don't like the author of this letter! Big surprise there.

More interesting though is that with all of the attention our new president has been receiving since assuming the office, I have yet to hear anyone point to anything that he has actually done that could be considered a good thing. Sure, the mantra to "give him a chance" continues to be shouted from coast to coast. But just how long will it take until he actually does something?

Obama is stuck in campaign mode; it's time for him to start governing. I suspect that he simply doesn't know enough about the concept to know where or how to begin; and he certainly hasn't surrounded himself with people with even a scintilla of ability (or integrity) to assist him.

After less than a month the poor fella was so worn out that a "well-earned" vacation was in order; hence his little junket to Chicago last week prior to signing the spending bill- the single issue that was so vital to the nation that it took him four days to affix his signature to it.

Interesting presidency. "

Rhodie wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:59 AM:

" Some of the orgin of "United we stand, divided we fall."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_we_stand,_divided_we_fall "

Brian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:45 AM:

" God has been driven out of every other government activity by liberals

Indeed!!!!! "

Brian wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:44 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 6:30 AM:

" Bryan wrote: The following is a quote by Thomas Jefferson: "A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have.

And here is another little nugget. While this quote is often misattributed to Thomas Jefferson, it was in fact coined by Gerald Ford. "

-Leonard implies that this statement has less credence since it was coined by Ford. Well, I would, in turn, say it has less credence if it was coined by Jefferson, given he was a slave owner. Although slavery was legal then, it does not make it moral. The same applies to legalizing same sex marriage. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:35 AM:

" t jefferson wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:25 AM:

God has been driven out of every other government activity by liberals


I am curious. Do you happen to own a Jefferson Bible? "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:33 AM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:20 AM:

-What part of this statement, other than it was not quoted by Jefferson,
is not an accurate statement?


The point that I was making is that the misattribution is emblematic of the fundamental intellectual dishonesty that taints Mr Stamos and his brand of conservatism.

Facts, for these sorts of individuals, have no meaning. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:30 AM:

" t jefferson wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:25 AM:

" L - come on, you have to forgive Brian not knowing that "In God we Trust" as the national motto. God has been driven out of every other government activity by liberals.


What, the man has never seen a dollar bill? I thought he was the highly successful inventor of the flying ding bat. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:28 AM:

" onelastthing wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:00 AM:

Anyway, Bryan is just being sarcastic in saying it's America's motto. Leonard did not pick that up, as usual.


I appreciate your faith in Senor Stamos but I have read this guy's letters for years and I am pretty sure that you give him far too much intellectual credit.

Sarcasm, along with irony, lie far beyond this man's intellectual range. "

t jefferson wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:25 AM:

" L - come on, you have to forgive Brian not knowing that "In God we Trust" as the national motto. God has been driven out of every other government activity by liberals. But you can be forgiven for not knowing about the other motto E Pluribus Unum, its only on the currency....

Stop nitpicking, the comments made are directional accurate if missing a few insignificant points. Your position is kind of like arguing about whether or not 30 million should be spent on the field mouse in SF when the whole 787 billion porkulus bill is going to pass anyway over the objections of the majority of the people in the country. But when has the will of the people ever stopped liberals or fascists from grabbing more power. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:20 AM:

" Bryan wrote: The following is a quote by Thomas Jefferson: "A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have.

-What part of this statement, other than it was not quoted by Jefferson,
is not an accurate statement? Now that the government has big stakes in Citicorp and Bank of America most people understand that the money in these banks may be more likely to be seized by the government. Being a BofA customer, I'm worried. But I suspect Leonard hides most of his money in offshore accounts. No wonder he's not worried. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:08 AM:

" Bryan wrote:
It is common knowledge that to control and conquer, you need to divide the people. And now Americans are divided.

-By not allowing a reasonable amount of time for those voting on the stimulus
to read it and fully understand it what other outcome would you expect than a divided America, Leonard? "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:04 AM:

" I seem to remember someone saying "McCain will tax us till we bleed". Does this same person still believe Obama is not going to do the same thing? He's already promosed to roll back the Bush tax cuts. "

onelastthing wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:00 AM:

" Bryan wrote:Remember America's motto, "United We Stand and Divided We Fall."

Bryan's point here is accurate. What part of if we are divided we will fall does Leonard not understand? Anyway, Bryan is just being sarcastic in saying it's America's motto. Leonard did not pick that up, as usual. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 6:31 AM:

" Given the way this letter writer plays free and easy with the facts, I wonder whether his name is even really Bryan Stamos.

:) "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 6:30 AM:

" Bryan wrote: The following is a quote by Thomas Jefferson: "A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have.

And here is another little nugget. While this quote is often misattributed to Thomas Jefferson, it was in fact coined by Gerald Ford. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 24, 2009 6:26 AM:

" Bryan wrote:Remember America's motto, "United We Stand and Divided We Fall."

What is it with these conservatives and facts? The motto of the United States today is "In God We Trust" just as it has been for the last 50 years. "

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