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2.5 percent pay cut for firefighters

Lodi council approves furloughs, reductions in salary to help with $1.4 million budget shortfall

By Maggie Creamer
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:09 AM PST

To deal with a $1.4 million budget shortfall during the next four months, the Lodi City Council approved furloughs, reductions in salary and elimination of city contributions to employees' retirement plans.

About 60 people attended the meeting Wednesday night, most of them representing one of the 10 bargaining groups the city has negotiated with to avoid layoffs.

The vote was 3 to 1 with Councilwoman JoAnne Mounce voting against. Councilwoman Susan Hitchcock was out sick.

"We as a council recognize this is a difficult time and affects your families ... I know you all take pride in the level of service you provide to the community," Mayor Larry Hansen said before the vote.

The city worked with all of the groups to identify ways they could reduce costs, and the agreements will start March 1. Some have entered into four month contracts to cover this fiscal year's projected shortfall, while others have extended the concessions through June 30, 2010. The city expects an 8 percent decline in revenue next fiscal year.

Because of the furlough system, all city offices will be closed one day a month, including City Hall.

Firefighters took a 2.5-percent pay reduction, and both fire and police have opted to not cash out overtime and instead bank it to be used as time off at a later date. Police dispatchers also delayed a 3-percent increase they were supposed to receive July 2009.

Cuts at a glance

Some highlights of the cuts and the amount they will save (this is calculated through the end of the fiscal year on June 30):

  • Stop city contributions for workers' retirement funds for all groups besides the fire department.
    Savings: $113,461

  • Reduce salary by 2.5 percent for firefighters and fire mid-management
    Savings: $31,750

  • Eliminate overtime for the fire and police departments
    Savings: $280,000

  • Eliminate uniform allowance for police department in April 2009
    Savings: $48,000

  • Defer cost-of-living increase until July 2009 for police dispatchers:
    Savings: $13,685

  • One furlough day per month for all groups beside police and firefighters (but it does apply to fire mid-management)
    Savings: $109,456

    Total savings: $596,352

    News-Sentinel staff
  • Overall, employee concessions totaled $596,352. The city will make up the rest of the money by leaving positions open and management adjustments for $481,970. The city will also dip into reserves for the last $361,755 to get through the rest of the year.

    Mounce said she could not vote for the proposal because she was concerned some of the cuts would affect the level of fire department service.

    Under the plan, the firefighters will drastically decrease overtime staffing by reducing minimum staffing from 15 to 12 when necessary. This usually will happen when a firefighter is sick or injured.

    It takes three firefighters to operate a truck or engine. Instead of paying someone overtime to fill the position, the department will not run one of its five trucks, and will distribute the other two employees to other stations. While all stations will remain open, one truck will not be in use.

    Mounce said she would only vote for the budget if the reduction in staffing when necessary was limited to four months.

    "You rescued my home and all of its contents," she said.

    Hansen said that while he understands the concerns, everyone in the city is making sacrifices. He specifically mentioned the police department, which has not filled five officer positions.

    "This absolutely will affect services," he said. "It's one of the painful decisions the City Council has to make."

    In preparation for falling revenue next year, the city will also offer a two-year service credit to encourage those eligible to retire early. This will be for employees over 50 who have accumulated five years service credit.

    The city has identified 26 positions that would qualify for this, but will probably have eight-to-10 employees accept it. City staff estimates that it will save $1 million a year.

    Throughout the meeting, city staff and the council stressed that the agreements could not have been reached without the cooperation of all the unions.

    "It's amazing to me that you are able to band together and look our for each other," Mounce said.

    Contact reporter Maggie Creamer at maggiec@lodinews.com.

    Reader Feedback

    campking wrote on Feb 25, 2009 11:13 PM:

    " Lodian wrote on Feb 21, 2009 2:44 PM:

    " Cogito wrote on Feb 20, 2009 7:24 PM:

    " Also Lodian, when monstrosities were put on the ballot, Lodi voted FOR their acceptance. "

    No one voted on a SWM. "

    Lodian, do more research before you post. It was called Measure "R", and it was specifically about Super Wal-Mart. It passed with somewhere around 60 plus percent of the vote. It was a regular election, and voter turnout was rather high, especially compared to the turnout you will see with the special election fraud about to occur in 6 days concerning measure W. "

    Cogito wrote on Feb 22, 2009 9:07 AM:

    " So Lodian, you think it's a good idea that every business meet voter approval before being allowed to open in Lodi? I would invite YOU to buy a modicum of business sense and free market wisdom. "

    commonsense1 wrote on Feb 21, 2009 6:51 PM:

    " While vacationing in So. Calif. last week made a point of going into a SWM for the first time. I walked from one end to the other, which is quite a hike. I took time to visit the bakery, food service dept., produce section, grocery section, hardware, electronics, etc. I found the store to be very clean, well stocked and staffed by competent employees. Am I missing something? What is wrong with a SWM? Can't say that is where I would do a lot of shopping, but I think they would be a great addition to our community. "

    Lodian wrote on Feb 21, 2009 2:45 PM:

    " Cogito wrote on Feb 20, 2009 7:19 PM:

    " Lodian, here are some synonyms for "monstrosity" to keep you from repetitive vocabulary syndrome. "Ugliness, atrocity, enormity, abnormality, abortion (wait, that's a positive word for you), freak, malformation, deformity, eyesore, heinousness, hideousness". Just trying to help. "


    Buy some class and return to try again. "

    Lodian wrote on Feb 21, 2009 2:44 PM:

    " Cogito wrote on Feb 20, 2009 7:24 PM:

    " Also Lodian, when monstrosities were put on the ballot, Lodi voted FOR their acceptance. "

    No one voted on a SWM. "

    Robb wrote on Feb 20, 2009 10:52 PM:

    " The Fire staff is already mostly Over paid anyway.. "

    Cogito wrote on Feb 20, 2009 7:24 PM:

    " Also Lodian, when monstrosities were put on the ballot, Lodi voted FOR their acceptance. "

    Cogito wrote on Feb 20, 2009 7:19 PM:

    " Lodian, here are some synonyms for "monstrosity" to keep you from repetitive vocabulary syndrome. "Ugliness, atrocity, enormity, abnormality, abortion (wait, that's a positive word for you), freak, malformation, deformity, eyesore, heinousness, hideousness". Just trying to help. "

    Lodian wrote on Feb 20, 2009 11:19 AM:

    " Cogito wrote..."Lodian, I'm not Al, but I'll answer your question. People who may not currently shop at WalMart in Lodi may drive here to shop at a SWM. If they come here for the "all things under one roof" approach to retail. they will buy taxable items too. Some who won't drive to Stockton, may drive to Lodi. Elk Grove/Laguna, with their rather large population, does not have a Super WalMart. AND, if you check their directory, there isn't even a single WalMart, of any kind, in Sacramento. Sounds like a great business opportunity to me."


    No thanks. A SWM monstrosity is not good for Lodi. Some people that live outside of Lodi may decide to come here to shop at this monstrosity. The cost to Lodi and Lodians is too high for us to oblige those that do not live here. You say the revenue will increase, but the cost to Lodians will rise as well so what's the point? Should Lodi make sure that non-Lodians have a SWM monstrosity at a high cost to LODI? I say NO! Most of the people that actually live in Lodi do not want a SWM monstrosity in this town. "

    Hook N' Ladder wrote on Feb 20, 2009 8:26 AM:

    " LOADEYE: Very well said. "

    Hook N' Ladder wrote on Feb 20, 2009 8:23 AM:

    " G.Wiman, As always it was great to talk to you. Don't be a stranger. We look forward to the next time. The next round is on you. Haha "

    G. Wiman wrote on Feb 20, 2009 6:43 AM:

    " What I do before work, After work and on my lunch are my business and not on City time. You may be surprised to discover people can have their own personal computers these days. "

    Cogito wrote on Feb 19, 2009 11:33 PM:

    " Dixon, California has a SWM. Population: -18,000. Hmmmmmm, I wonder how they support a SWM with such a low population? You think all those Liberals in the people's Republic of Davis secretly shop there? You bet! "

    Cogito wrote on Feb 19, 2009 11:27 PM:

    " On 2nd check, there are 3 WalMarts in Sac, no SWMs. Truxel, Florin, and El Camino. There's a SWM in West Sacramento,(I think) but that's a different city. "

    Cogito wrote on Feb 19, 2009 10:33 PM:

    " Lodian, I'm not Al, but I'll answer your question. People who may not currently shop at WalMart in Lodi may drive here to shop at a SWM. If they come here for the "all things under one roof" approach to retail. they will buy taxable items too. Some who won't drive to Stockton, may drive to Lodi. Elk Grove/Laguna, with their rather large population, does not have a Super WalMart. AND, if you check their directory, there isn't even a single WalMart, of any kind, in Sacramento. Sounds like a great business opportunity to me. "

    Lodian wrote on Feb 19, 2009 9:50 PM:

    " al da long wrote on Feb 19, 2009 6:26 AM:

    " With a short fall, a New Wally world would increase the City's sale tax revenue. "

    al da long: How do you figure? A New Walmart will not increase tax revenue. We already have a Walmart. "

    loadeye wrote on Feb 19, 2009 7:36 PM:

    " Gary, what websites besides the News-Sentinel do you browse on city time and city computer? The same ones the other city employees use? "

    loadeye wrote on Feb 19, 2009 7:27 PM:

    " Maggie Creamer, I hope your blog is more popular than Marty and Rich's or the wine guy. Do they have more than three total posts between them yet? We need a new newspaper in town that's not afraid to tell the truth. Are you reporters and Rich really censored and restricted by Marty and Freddy?
    And why wasn't there any mention of the meeting incident last night when Brad and Pete from the Lodi Firefighters' Union backed mayor Hansen into a corner and just about had him crying? That was so frigging funny I almost peed my pants. Brad, it's about time someone told it like it is and stood a firm ground with the city bullies without backing off. Great job and thank you for setting a precedent for others to follow. And to you too, ex-Mayor Mounce for your honesty and candid questions that are always avoided by manager King. Why do the other members show so much hostility toward you for being honest? Are you breaking their code of corruption? "

    loadeye wrote on Feb 19, 2009 7:10 PM:

    " Nellie, I really like little puzzies like you! "

    Neo wrote on Feb 19, 2009 7:02 PM:

    " suzain, you have NO IDEA how good of a play- by- play guy I would be at that event! I know most of these guys like the back of my hand! "

    Hook N' Ladder wrote on Feb 19, 2009 5:15 PM:

    " I am glad we can keep our sense of humor... They might ask for that next!LOL. Looking forward to it! "

    G. Wiman wrote on Feb 19, 2009 5:06 PM:

    " Sounds good. But I can buy, the Furloughs don't start until next month! "

    Hook N' Ladder wrote on Feb 19, 2009 5:00 PM:

    " Gary, P.S. my treat! "

    Hook N' Ladder wrote on Feb 19, 2009 4:55 PM:

    " Gary, I would love to talk to you over a beer and cigar... how's 8:00pm? You know where. "

    G. Wiman wrote on Feb 19, 2009 4:50 PM:

    " I can only speak for what happened in my group, Mid Managers. 8 hour furlough = 4.7% plus 3% deferred comp match. I would not be surprised to see more cuts come June 30. "

    wideeyed wrote on Feb 19, 2009 4:50 PM:

    " How come the City Council did not offer to give up their recent pay raise of $400? What are they giving up in this economic crisis. "

    commonsense1 wrote on Feb 19, 2009 4:37 PM:

    " I seems to me if the public was asked about who should take a reduction in pay, I doubt police and fire employees would be at the top of the list? May not be fair, just realistic. "

    Hook N' Ladder wrote on Feb 19, 2009 4:29 PM:

    " SA Mom: WOW! You could not be more wrong about your information. Call Human Resources 333-6704 and ask if Fire was cooperative. We were amongst the first groups to settle and there were no threats involved. It was quite amicable. Also the 10min. comment did not pertain to response times it was a comment about how fewer people means longer to accomplish tasks on the fire ground. I am never surprised at the lack of misinformation. Please post which bargaining group had a 7.7% reduction. I will wait patiently and also let me know how you like your crow... "

    G. Wiman wrote on Feb 19, 2009 4:17 PM:

    " Yes, and thank you for the concern. I have the utmost respect for the Police and Fire staff. This "crisis" is being shared by all employees. The 8 hour furlough the rest of us agreed to amounts to a 4.7% pay decrease. And the additional 3% from the comp match the same as Life safety. I am proud that all employees are participating to save jobs for others. "

    suzain wrote on Feb 19, 2009 3:54 PM:

    " gary i hope you were on lunch when you posted. fire chief your right. neo about the whiffleball game thats funny no thats hilarious. you could be the public address announcer at the game. "

    patton1 wrote on Feb 19, 2009 2:09 PM:

    " She claimed that she would vote for it only if it was for 4 months. Does she think we will see an economic improvement that soon. No, of course not. She just wants to make sure she has the unions support when she runs again in 4 years. She is a terrible council person. Where excactly does she expect the cuts to come from? "

    patton1 wrote on Feb 19, 2009 2:07 PM:

    " Of course Mounce voted against it. She knew there was three vites to pass (4 if Hitchock wasnt sick) and this way she can continue to pander to the city unions who helped elected her. Time after time, she plays politics. She is not a leader at all. "

    Neo wrote on Feb 19, 2009 1:37 PM:

    " Now THERES and idea! How about a benefit whiffleball game between the Police and Fire Depts! Have it at the Grape Bowl! Loadeye can be an umpire, Hansen as one coach, Pretzler the other coach! BJ and Mounce will be in charge of concessions of course. Susan and Phil can cheerleaders! "

    Neo wrote on Feb 19, 2009 1:31 PM:

    " And the firefighter whiffleball games are NOT open to the public! Right suzain? Theyre by invitation only!!! "

    fire chief wrote on Feb 19, 2009 1:23 PM:

    " To All.The RETRO was for 2 yrs. without a contract and no pay increases.Suzain can you clarify? "

    G. Wiman wrote on Feb 19, 2009 1:17 PM:

    " The current Fire Fighter MOU on the City of Lodi website states: 8% retro to 1/1/07, 4.5% on 1/1/08, minimum 3.5% cost of living on 1/1/09. Total increse in current MOU was 16% minimum from previous contract. Nothing against my friends at FD, just facts. Can not blame anyone for taking what is offered. "

    suzain wrote on Feb 19, 2009 12:55 PM:

    " sa mom 19% down to 14%. your still wrong and thanks for proving my point about you making up your own facts. you still don't have 1 thing in your post correct, except your mad. i'm sorry if a fireman wronged you somewhere in the past. please don't be a hater. "

    Neo wrote on Feb 19, 2009 12:38 PM:

    " And if longer response times is what it takes to get the budget under control, so be it! The vast majority of calls r for panic attacks, mental health issues or other non-emergencies. "

    SA mom wrote on Feb 19, 2009 12:33 PM:

    " SUZAIN....IF IT WASN'T 19% IT CERTAINLY WAS 14%. I KNOW THERE WAS A HUGE INCREASE FOR FIRE. FOR THE FIREMAN TO SAY IT TAKES 10 MINS TO GET ACROSS LODI, WITH A SIREN????? SCARE TACTICS IS ALL IT IS...THEY RUN THIS CITY AND ARE GOING TO RUN US RIGHT INTO BANKRUPTCY LIKE VALLEJO...YES ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THEY EXPECT THE OVERTIME AND CONSIDER TO BE A PART OF THEIR REGULAR PAYCHECK....ASK THE FIREMEN THAT PLAY WIFFLE BALL IN THE PARKING LOT BEHIND CITY HALL HOW TOUGH THEIR JOB IS. I AM YELLING AND I AM PISSED THAT ALL OF THE OTHER EMPLOYEES ARE WILLING TO GIVE TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT AND YES THE FIRE DEPT HAD TO BE COERCED THEY ORIGINALLY SAID NO TO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING UNTIL THEY WERE THREATENED WITH CLOSINGS. "

    Neo wrote on Feb 19, 2009 11:55 AM:

    " Sorry mp, I`m not into that golden shower thing, leave me out of your sick fantasies! Mounce always finds some sanctimonious reason to vote no on everything. By the way, what do you think she voted on Prop. 8? "

    suzain wrote on Feb 19, 2009 11:49 AM:

    " 1 more thing reality, if you know where i live stop by, i will buy you a cup of coffee. "

    suzain wrote on Feb 19, 2009 11:44 AM:

    " reality, i'm not trying to hide behind a handle, honey. In the past I have printed my name and phone # in these blogs. Why are you? I really don't like using this type of format to debate because i feel its important to use facts, when most of the others can use anything them dream up. "

    mp wrote on Feb 19, 2009 11:39 AM:

    " Did she pee in your cool-aide neo? "

    mp wrote on Feb 19, 2009 11:25 AM:

    " I was at the meeting and she voted NO because she wanted every contract "all employees" to be reopened at the end of this fiscal year!!!! The LNS wanted to write a story about firefighters, so you are not getting the real picture!! "

    leather_head wrote on Feb 19, 2009 10:45 AM:

    " SA mom, Who are you getting your info from. Lodi Fire has 3 people on a engine and 3 on the truck. How is that over manned? Take a look at Stockton Fire's Staffing 4 people on a engine and 5 on the trucks. I guess you didn't look close to lodi on the survey you did! And I don't work for lodi fire but think BS you sit here and bash the people that are going to be the ones to save your BUTTS! "

    Maggiecreamer wrote on Feb 19, 2009 10:35 AM:

    " Also, to all commenters,
    I have started a new blog called the City Buzz and will be posting updates throughout the day, story ideas I'm looking for feedback on, general questions and things I find on the Internet or trends in other cities.
    Here's the address: http://www.lodinews.com/blogs/citybuzz/
    Hope to hear from you soon.

    Thanks,
    Maggie, the reporter "

    Maggiecreamer wrote on Feb 19, 2009 10:32 AM:

    " Hi Woah Nellie!
    From what I understand, the goal of the paid time off bank is to help with cash flow now by delaying the payments. It was not explained in detail at the meeting, but I can check on this when I follow up on the budget cuts.

    Thank you,
    Maggie - the reporter "

    reality wrote on Feb 19, 2009 10:13 AM:

    " suzain i think you have blown your cover. a truck with the plate "suzain" is regularly parked in the drive where pete iterruan the lodi fire union president lives. hmmmn are we related? husband and wife perhaps. better get a new handle honey. "

    suzain wrote on Feb 19, 2009 9:42 AM:

    " sa mom i don't know where you got your facts but your not even close to being right about anything you posted. 19% are kidding me. coerced in to participating i did see you in the room when concessions were made. you should go back and check your figures. overtime being part of his salary? next time you watch a cc meeting put your wine down and listen to what is actually happening. "

    SA mom wrote on Feb 19, 2009 9:35 AM:

    " leather_head.... the City of Lodi's Fire stations are manned more than most other Cities. I dare anyone to actually investigate the amount of man power other stations have vs. the City of Lodi.....if there are slower response times it is because of the ATTITUDES by your firefighters. Maybe it is time for them to get used to actually living off of their actual salary. "

    SA mom wrote on Feb 19, 2009 9:30 AM:

    " LODI NEWS SENTINEL....WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES THAT TOOK A 7.7% DECREASE???????? YOUR CITY FIREFIGHTERS HAD TO BE COERCED INTO PARTICIPATING. THEY THINK THEY ARE TOO GOOD TO GIVE UP...THEY JUST GOT A 19% PAY INCREASE...DO YOU THINK THE 2.5% IS GOING TO HURT THEM? DID YOU NOT HEAR THAT FIREMAN LAST NIGHT..HE THINKS OVERTIME PAY IS A PART OF HIS SALARY!! I AM AN UPSET CITIZEN WITH BOTH OUR FIREFIGHTERS WITH BIG HEADS AND THE LODI NEWS SENTINEL FOR HELPING TO MAKE THEIR HEADS BIGGER. "

    suzain wrote on Feb 19, 2009 9:04 AM:

    " answer: whoa nellie the firefighters will not be allowed to use pto if it closes an engine. any other questions i can answer for you. "

    Whoa Nellie! wrote on Feb 19, 2009 8:39 AM:

    " Loadeye says, "I love kittens!" "

    Whoa Nellie! wrote on Feb 19, 2009 8:37 AM:

    " ...and both fire and police have opted to not cash out overtime and instead bank it to be used as time off at a later date."

    More questions that answers with this clause IMHO.

    OK, so what happens down the road? Granted this is only a short period but won't this PTO (paid time off) then be paid in the next fiscal year?

    Q: when a fireman uses his PTO does than mean in the future that truck will be shut down and the other two shuffled to another station? OR will that truck be fully staffed?

    Was this explained in detail and left out of the story, or was it just glazed over by city staff? "

    Neo wrote on Feb 19, 2009 8:30 AM:

    " Loadeye, we all know you have this infatuation with the Mouncer. She would prefer to do nothing than do whats necessary. But she likes puppies and thats all that matters to some of you. "

    loadeye wrote on Feb 19, 2009 8:25 AM:

    " And, Observer, you're right. Everyone should come together in this financial dilemna and salvage their jobs for a paltry pay cut. When good times return, so will those salary increases, hopefully. "

    leather_head wrote on Feb 19, 2009 8:25 AM:

    " t jefferson, Seems as your pretty bitter towards the fire department. Maybe you will have a change of heart when its your house on fire or your the one having a heart attack. Your comments have been killing me "Get firefighters of 24 hour shifts". What do you think they should work? "

    loadeye wrote on Feb 19, 2009 8:23 AM:

    " Neo, did you bother to watch the meeting and see why she voted no? And did you think the three ayemeegos would vote anything but yes? "

    T & C wrote on Feb 19, 2009 8:22 AM:

    " Since Taxes come out of everyones income salary, the "Actual" amount missed from their paycheck mis practically ZILCH! "

    Neo wrote on Feb 19, 2009 8:08 AM:

    " Mounce voted no!!?? I`m shocked! jk, it`s becoming more and more clear that Mounce has no idea what she is doing, she prefers posturing on "moral" grounds rather than offering any real solutions to anything. Her next campaign platform will be, "well, I like puppies and kittens!" "

    peek wrote on Feb 19, 2009 7:53 AM:

    " Let's see... they get twice the amount in their raises and half the amount in cuts compared to other depts. Yep, typical move. But hey, at least they are moving in the right direction. "

    Observer wrote on Feb 19, 2009 7:25 AM:

    " Congratulations to both the City employees and City Council for negotiating the reductions. I'm glad it wasn't one party shoving the agreement down the other party's throat. "

    al da long wrote on Feb 19, 2009 6:26 AM:

    " With a short fall, a New Wally world would increase the City's sale tax revenue. "

    t jefferson wrote on Feb 19, 2009 5:56 AM:

    " I predict the same level of service and people will wonder why they were spending the money before. How about cuts to the building department? How about the finance department? The 8% shortfall is going to be much worse after the state is done.... "

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