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Should bigwigs give up big pay?

Discussions on cutting costs in the Lodi Unified School District include asking district's top wage earners to take home less money

By Jennifer Bonnett
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Monday, February 9, 2009 6:29 AM PST

With Lodi Unified School District's top budget administrator warning that the money will run out if the state doesn't pass a budget soon, and with the promise of more layoffs in addition the 45 positions cut two weeks ago, some have questioned the salaries of the district's top earners and any incentives they may receive.

The district needs to cut another $21 million before moving into the next school year. The shortfall is based partly on lagging revenues such as property taxes, the state's budget stalemate (the budget is six months late), and declining enrollment, since districts receive per-pupil funding from the state.

"This is the time when things are going to start hitting home," Superintendent Cathy Nichols-Washer said Friday. "This is going to have a drastic affect on our education system."

Chief Business Official Doug Barge has said that without a budget from the state, the district will run out of money this month. However, with a series of stopgaps recently approved by the school board, President Richard Jones said that such a development has been delayed for at least another month.

"We are holding tight to cash," Jones said. "It's projected that if we don't have a state budget by March, we won't be able to pay our bills."

That not only includes making payroll, but funding the district's utilities and outside vendors.

"It would be devastating," Jones added.

Selected LUSD administrator annual salaries at a glance

(Includes benefits)

  • Superintendent Cathy Nichols-Washer: $230,000
  • Associate superintendent Odie Douglas: $141,959-$162,775
  • Assistant superintendent of elementary education Catherine Pennington: $110,652-$142,429
  • Assistant superintendent of secondary education Barbara Johnston: $110,652-$142,429
  • Assistant superintendent of facilities of planning Art Hand: $110,652-$142,429
  • Assistant director of curriculum/instruction/assessment Lisa Kotowski: $110,652-$142,429
  • Assistant superintendent of personnel Mike McKilligan: $110,652-$142,429
  • Chief Business Officer Doug Barge: $123,805-$160,000
  • Administrative Director Special Services/SELPA: $107,076-$135,071
  • High school principal: $107,076-$135,071
  • Middle school principal: $97,656-$123,051
  • Elementary principal: $92,422-$116,477

    (Current as of July 8, 2008. Range based on years in district and experience, and set by school board with vote. Represents 1 percent increase over previous school year. Does not reflect annual stipend for highest earned degree limited to the following: MA, MS, M.Ed at $1,000 or Ph.D, Ed.D at $1,500.)

    Source: Lodi Unified School District

    Budget meeting Wednesday

    The public is invited to the superintendent's Budget Advisory Committee meeting at 6 p.m. Wednesday in the James Arieda Education Support Center, 1305 E. Vine St., Lodi. Community members will be invited to give input on possible district cuts for the coming school year.
  • The board has already voted to close one of its smallest schools and approved the elimination of 45 positions for the coming school year. The personnel reduction recommendations by Nichols-Washer trimmed $3 million from next school year's budget, but with another $21 million needed in cuts, there will be more layoffs.

    In addition to facing those looming cuts, the district is trying to keep enough money in the bank this school year as not to be taken over by the county for day-to-day operations.

    The current year's budget is $6.4 million out of balance, Barge told the board last week before members approved an adjustment. Among the fixes was eliminating $300,000 worth of vacant positions.

    Meanwhile, teachers have been put on alert. By law, pink slips must go out March 15, and Nichols-Washer said the school board will be voting on the issue Feb. 17.

    She declined to speculate on figures, but said: "There will be many, many layoffs."

    Depending on what trustees decide, that could mean further personnel cuts in the administrative office and credentialed staff, according to the superintendent.

    Volunteer pay cuts

    Many of the speakers at the Jan. 27 board meeting — including teachers — said they would take pay cuts if it could save a job or two. Without coming too close to public negotiations, union representatives said they would be willing to take a proposal back to their boards and have been meeting with the personnel department, Nichols-Washer said.

    Teacher union president Sue Kenmotsu said last week that the idea is tempting from a policy point of view, but, like any other workers, teachers are trying to make ends meet.

    "Taking a pay cut to save people would be fantastic, but how much would have to be cut to save how many? You can't balance millions of dollars on what teachers make."

    Nichols-Washer said she would voluntarily reduce her own pay, and she's not opposed to an across-the-board cut like the one approved last week in Manteca.

    That district voted for the proposed 8 percent pay cut from its unions rather than adopt a series of suggested cuts presented by acting superintendent Jason Messer. His recommendations could have resulted in the loss of up to 241 positions, while the across-the-board pay cut percentage would not only keep those jobs, but also save the district more than $10 million.

    "It won't mean there won't be any layoffs, but it certainly would make a huge difference," Nichols-Washer said before addressing the public issue made of her $200,000-plus-a-year salary. "But me individually taking a pay cut won't solve the problem."

    Trustee Calvin Young, who is already taking a 10 percent pay decrease at his day job, said a 6 percent cut across the district's payroll would only save $9.6 million.

    What do they make?

    A News-Sentinel review of district salaries last year found that despite the high pay of administrators — which top out at $230,000 annually — teachers and classified can earn a pretty good wage, too, with overtime and extra college degrees.

    Teachers are paid based on the number of years they've been teaching and how many college units earned past their initial degree. For example, a teacher with a master's degree will earn an extra $1,000 a year, while a doctorate fetches an additional $1,500.

    Administrators have said that they use the district's salaries to lure people to the district and retain them. According to a report by the National Education Association, California's K-12 teachers were the highest paid in the nation last school year. They earned an average of $64,424 annually, compared to the U.S. average of $52,308.

    That's way up from the same report that found during the 2005-06 school year, the state average was $59,825 and the national average, $49,026.

    Nichols-Washer said she doesn't have the figures for verification as to where teachers' salaries stand in relation to others in the area, but has heard from several people that they are among the highest.

    Lodi's highest paid teacher has a base salary of $80,000.

    "They make that by earning different certifications and staying in the business," Kenmotsu said.

    Still, Kenmotsu said she feels like no one should give up their pay to help with the current budget deficit.

    "I'm sure if administrators could take a bit of a pay cut, they would ... Teachers are not prepared to shoulder the (budget) burden," she said. "There are no other alternatives; there are only tragedies. (Alternatives) assume you can do something to make everyone whole. You can't, unless the state does something."

    Comparatively, starting pay for members of the Lodi superintendent's cabinet is $110,000 and tops out at $162,000 a year, according to July figures.

    Nichols-Washer said with 90 percent of the district's general budget going toward personnel, there is no way to save money without layoffs.

    Other cuts?

    Some, including former school board candidate David Schindler, have questioned why trustees don't take a cut of their $750-a-month stipend.

    Each of the seven board members also receive mileage and other reimbursements when on district business, according to board bylaws. Some trustees have volunteered publicly to trim their district pay, but no motion has been made. This week, Jones said he, too, would take a 10 percent reduction if the issue was officially brought to the discussion table.

    "Everything is in the hands of the superintendent's budget advisory committee," Jones said.

    The group has been in place for years and is called upon when there is a budget issue, according to Jones.

    Its members, including district representatives and community members, meet with Barge before taking any recommendations to Nichols-Washer, who then brings the ideas to the board for input and possible action.

    The group, which will hold its first public meeting Wednesday, has not worked on any of the latest budget issues. The board gave direction on examining small school closures and eliminating positions at the administrative office.

    However, Jones is hesitant about presenting any cost-saving measures publicly.

    "I want the process to work. I want the budget advisory committee to come back with recommendations," Jones said.

    Is there other spending that can be curtailed?

    "There isn't a lot of fluff in the district, but energy conservation is one (place to save)," Nichols-Washer said. "But, of course, you have to spend money to save money."

    The board recently adopted an energy conservation plan, but it called on the district to spend tens of thousands of dollars that it doesn't have, without seeing a payoff for several years.

    Several years ago, former Superintendent Bill Huyett did not take a $5,000-a-year pay raise he was awarded because of the state of the district's budget at that time.

    Long-time teacher Susan Heberle, who also served on a former district budget advisory committee, said she's helping out any way possible to keep spending down. For example, she told board members at a recent meeting that she flips off her classroom's heater and confirms her computer is turned off at noon every day.

    Some have questioned the cost of bottled water offered to board members and administrators at every meeting, and what about the Blackberries administrators have been known to carry?

    Jones said he's not sure where the water comes from, but the issue of hand-held devices has come up. "We've discussed that. It's a cost, but I'm not sure how much."

    Kenmotsu said union members are seeking answers of their own. "They want to know why administrators have cell phones. Why have the heat on during break at one of the high schools? Those are good questions."

    While Nichols-Washer said the hand-held devices don't translate into huge dollar amounts, "every little bit counts."

    She has already put the spending breaks on non-essential office and classroom supplies, outside contracts for school assemblies and out-of-town travel, unless approved by her.

    "But we're at a point where those things aren't enough," she said, adding that the classroom will be hit through things like bigger sizes next school year and fewer electives for high school students.

    "Services are going to drastically be reduced," Nichols-Washer said.

    Meanwhile, Lodi Unified continues to attempt to close its budget gap and plan for the future without money from the state, Jones said.

    "There are so many things out there that may happen, could happen, will happen."

    Contact reporter Jennifer Bonnett at jenniferb@lodinews.com.

    Reader Feedback

    takealook wrote on Feb 14, 2009 3:22 PM:

    " Gator, I wish it was only a 10 percent cut. Because I work only 6 hours a day the district wants to cut an hour a day. That doesn't sound too bad, but I did the figures and I will have a pay cut of 17 percent with a increase of health insurance. That makes it a 22 percent cut! We have to have the district office take the cuts! Unions have to stick together. "

    Gator wrote on Feb 14, 2009 3:01 PM:

    " Govagent , whats up you get left out of the loop, those classes are mandated
    by the Federal government.. Your in the class room every day??? Remedial
    English??? "

    Gator wrote on Feb 14, 2009 12:27 PM:

    " Should Big Wigs give up big pay!!! If they expect their employs to give up 10% fine but start at the top with a 18% across the board cut for AdministrationBut with your opening line why stop with the school AdminThe gentleman whose name I will put here should make the blood of every CEO, CFO and COO run cold!! Haruka Nishimatsu President and CEO of JAL.. Google his Name and you can see what I mean!!! "

    Uncle Stinky wrote on Feb 13, 2009 2:36 PM:

    " Dr. Douglas is great. I have many friends in teaching who all feel the same way. Each and everyone of them thinks the way I do. All of the teachers were racist before and the good DR. He showed us the way. Ask any teacher in the District. We all love him. Talk to all the teachers you know and they will tell you he is the best thing the district ever spent money on. I would like to sit down with him and eats lots of good food. "

    essayjay wrote on Feb 12, 2009 9:20 PM:

    " You can lighten up the personnel director, he won't be hiring anyone for a while "

    essayjay wrote on Feb 12, 2009 9:19 PM:

    " Didn't we just spend over 13 million dollars, less than a year ago on a building that the school board and administration was in charge of some years ago.
    You screwed us then and now you are screwing us again. What are we going to pay in the future for the buildings that were just built in the last few years? "

    essayjay wrote on Feb 12, 2009 9:17 PM:

    " It always seems best to me that you should lead by example right? One of the best places to cut out the fat and the excess is at the top right? And where does your source of revenue in the school district come from? The classroom right? ADA, That is daily attendance rate, that is what the district is paid by the State at a rate determined by the State. No one at the top in the district office is generating any revenue. So, lets look at where the fat is. The DISTRICT OFFICE!!
    Start with why we have a Associate Supt. Up until just a few years ago we never had to have an Associate Supt. but somewhere along the line under Huyette tenure we suddenly needed an Associate Supe from Elk grove or we couldn't survive. We needed someone to come down here and spend 250,000.00 and educate us on how incredible bigoted we all were and why our minority students were being prevented from learning at the hands of a systemically racially unfair system. "

    loadeye wrote on Feb 12, 2009 8:14 PM:

    " It's so great to see this blog out in the open and the reliable sources and links that show the outright corruption taking place. If the grand jury doesn't investigate this fleecing of America and hand down indictments, it should be ashamed and indicted themselves. Where are patton1(rear Admiral), observer, commonsense1, scrutiny, whoanellie, real facts and the rest of the mooches that normally pat this same type of people at city hall, at? It's not only time to cut those needless administration assistant and secretary jobs and the like and demand an investigation into this corruption and fraud. Those are our tax dollars they're stealing from the childrens' education, er edumacation. I love that word, by the way. Any of those educated simpletons that attended that meeting or whatever you want to refer to it as, that didn't stand up and correct that person using the word edumacation, should've been fired immediately. Lodi has turned into nothing but a still backwards town with greed fueling its fire. "

    Jerry wrote on Feb 12, 2009 5:30 PM:

    " Each and every top administrator at L.U.S.D. is at the top of the pay scale (and beyond)that is advertised on their website. If the superintendent took at 10% cut in pay she would still be better paid than the Governor of any state in this Country including "Arnold."

    We need to see some leadership from the L.U.S.D. Board; how can they fire 350 teachers and allow these overpaid administrators to draw these
    unconscionable wages and benefits. "

    takealook wrote on Feb 12, 2009 5:02 PM:

    " Just found out today that as a six hour para the district would like to cut my (others too) hours down to five hours. First of all, paras do not get paid very much--one of the lowest in the district. If this happens it will be a 17 percent pay cut. Plus our health insurance would then be raised. So that being said I would be taking a 22 percent pay cut. It gets me so mad to think that there are people in the district getting paid for doing so little. Don't let them pick on the little guy. All the big wigs need to take a pay cut now!!! "

    Contrapasso wrote on Feb 12, 2009 4:09 PM:

    " Jerry: I was looking for that all day and couldn't find it. I totally agree with you. Hey, check out Dr. Douglas's connection to a group called SEED. It looks like they will come and help all of us bigoted teachers to overcome our inherent racism (for a fee???). And, maybe, just maybe, Dr. Douglas will get a piece of the pie!??!

    I think there are many departments that need to publicly disclose actually what they do and how it benefits the students. "

    govagent wrote on Feb 12, 2009 3:24 PM:

    " Yes I know how money can be saved, cut the handicap classes! Its not right for tax dollars to go for teachers and aids to baby sit when there are children who will need the education. Im talking about the severly handicap who will be on state or federal money for life. Bed ridden, wheel chair ridden, mentally unable to do anything. I see this as money that can go towards able body kids who need education for their future, they will not be getting government money. I am not picking on handicap just stating the facts of life. There are 2 to 4 classrooms with 2 to 4 teachers, and 1 aid per student in each school. if there are 10 students there will be 10 aids on top of the 2 to 4 teachers per classroom. This is a waste of talent and money, I know Im in the classoom everyday and see what goes on. How many schools in Lodi? how many special severly handicap classrooms? and teachers, and aids? go figure! " "

    Jerry wrote on Feb 12, 2009 3:04 PM:

    " Just found the District's budget... it can be found online on the District's website. That said, unless your blood preasure is totally under control examine at your own risk.

    It appears that Dr. Douglas makes $168,500. That's not counting perks like: cars, expensive lunches, a free cell phone and a hefty allowance to attend whatever conference he thinks needs to be attended. Oh, I was just reminded that Dr. Douglas is the same guy that was responsible for getting the District to hire the Pacific Group ($250,000) to help our teachers' get in touch with their "inner-bigot."

    Also, it should be noted that the District wants to save money by NOT printing the budget next year. The paultry savings via non-printing is actually mentioned in the budget. Forget transparacy, this Board is shooting for invisibility. The question is why? We should all be very concerned about these folks. This smells. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 12, 2009 10:11 AM:

    " Dirt Claude- I know several ESC edumacators. Their organizational title is not the same as the title listed on official payroll documents. So an "administrative secretary" could be any one of several different positions. These people will tell you how important they are, etc etc. But they go by other titles. The only way that personnel can layer so many people is to call some of them "secretary's" or "specialists". Only a few years ago, NONE of these positions existed. Administrators have learned that it is a good thing to surround yourself with people who are loyal and agree with your "great wisdom". The most loyal will take the hits for your decisions and will take the blame. "Yes-men" have been doing this for years. It is inevitable that adminstrators will keep the bloat so they will have continued support from peers. The challenge to them is not balancing the budget, but how to keep the party going without reducing administrative staff.

    A few simple recommendations will streamline functions and cut bloat, but too many ESC egos are in the way. "

    Jerry wrote on Feb 12, 2009 8:58 AM:

    " This article states that Odie Douglas is paid in a range of somewhere between $141,959-$162,775. It seems to me that nobody is paid in a range; "everyone" is paid a wage that is certain.

    Does anyone know what Odie Douglas is actually paid? Couldn't we determine what he is paid by way of the Budget that was passed last July? "

    Dirt Claude wrote on Feb 12, 2009 8:54 AM:

    " Can someone give me the name or at least initials of Administrative Secretary's who make $100,000+ a year? You people are so mis-informed!!!! "

    Contrapasso wrote on Feb 12, 2009 8:23 AM:

    " The latest word is that the district plans to cut 365 teachers and 14.5 administrators......It just keeps getting better and better.... "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 12, 2009 7:56 AM:

    " One of the simplist management tasks is to plan a meeting. Simple tasks like when where how? are asked and answered. But last night, over 500 distraught parents and teachers showed up at the budget advisory committee only to be turned away by the fire department!

    The issue is and always has been about PLANNING? Where is is, if you can't even convene a public meeting properly. We are not even in the first inning of this game and it already looks bad. Maybe we should seriously consider private schools or homeschooling as a choice. The reduced funding because of a drop in enrollment might encourage the big wigs at the ESC that their little desk jockey party is over? Administrative secretarys counting books at $120k/year borders on fraud waste and abuse of authority. Where was the personnel Chief during this decision? Oops, maybe some plumping of pillows in his two departments? "

    teach247365 wrote on Feb 11, 2009 9:48 PM:

    " It is not whining to ask that the people who make 3 times as much money take a few cuts before cutting the positions/salaries of those who make a lesser amount of money. It is not whining to expect that the people actually educating the children get treated with respect. Children will not notice if there is no Assistant Superintendent. They will certainly notice if there are 50+ kids in the classroom and the teacher doesn't have time to answer questions or give any sort of individual attention. "

    Contrapasso wrote on Feb 11, 2009 8:51 PM:

    " Sorry...a couple of typos in the last blog. It's a good thing I am a teacher and not a data entry clerk. "

    Contrapasso wrote on Feb 11, 2009 8:49 PM:

    " RU4REAL: The definition of whining is not as you stated. It is: "a complaining long drawn wail as if of a dog." I did not complain about my salary. I merely defended myself and the other teachers who supposedly do not "care about anything except themselves," as you stated. I also questioned, earlier in this blog, the justice of a data entry clerk making more money than a teacher. In any other business, the teacher would make more. I used to work in the private sector as a trainer. The trainers made more than the data entry clerks, as is appropriate, because of the skill level required and the education involved. Since when is questioning the status quo whining? I love my job. If I didn't I would quit.

    Also, as a supposedly educated person,youshould know that those who make personal attacks and generalizations automatically lose any debate? I would think that someone who teaches at a community college would know that... "

    RU4REAL wrote on Feb 11, 2009 3:06 PM:

    " Contrapasso...perhaps you should go back to school and learn the meaning of whining. One who is confident in their abilities does not have to justify them to another, which is exactly what you did. I did rethink my position, as you suggested, and found you're now an egotistical whiner. As I told Edumacation, if you didn't know what you were getting into when you took the job, shame on you, you shouldn't have taken it. It's exactly like people who complain about their salaries at some point after they accept the position. You knew what the job paid when you accepted the position. What more did you expect? You condemn people who make more than you out of jealousy. What other reason could there be? Get a life! You made your bed, now sleep in it! "

    Contrapasso wrote on Feb 11, 2009 2:00 PM:

    " RU4: Apparently you do not have adequate reading skills even though you are "smart" enough to have started at the community college level. (Sooo impressive!!! Talk about ego!!) I don't see anything in my 8:11 post about how "good" I am. There is no whining. I merely stated the facts. The things listed in that post are the truth. By no stretch of the imagination can relating the things I do every day be considered whining. I didn't ask for sympathy. I didn't say I was better than anyone. I just suggested that you should rethink your position that teachers are only concerned with themselves. Learn how to read, friend, both the words and between the lines. "

    RU4REAL wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:55 PM:

    " Edumacation....well, can't say you're off base on that one. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:41 PM:

    " RU4REAL- I don't know what course(s) you are teaching, but I would be willing to speculate that at least a few students are only their for: A) Unit or grade credit B) To socialize with other students C) Because they have nothing else to do D) Because they may qualify for a student loan or other "school benefit program" and the money will be used for other matters. E)To escape from family, spouse or roomates.

    Do any of these reasons look familiar? "

    RU4REAL wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:34 PM:

    " Edumacation....I was smart enough to start teaching at the community college level, where your students actually WANT to be there. No denying that 1st grade is tough, but if you didn't know what you were getting into when you took the job, you shouldn't have been there. "

    RU4REAL wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:29 PM:

    " Edumacation....guess Contrapasso didn't get it either, as she suggested it was more like a fungal infestation. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:29 PM:

    " RU4REAl They let you out of the Vacaville treatment facility too soon. Did you stop taking your meds again? "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:25 PM:

    " RU4REAL- You need a week teaching first graders how to read. I forgot to tell you: Few will understand English or care anything about it. Now go get them tiger, but don't forget you may have a few other problems to deal with! Some may have not been potty trained! LOL "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:21 PM:

    " Contrapasso- Good comment to the lurking poster. As you know, teaching is not my profession, but having gone through the credntialing process and observing first hand what really goes on in the name of "edumacation" is revealing. I heartily recommend that any interested parent, earn a credential or two and wou will see the mounds and piles of mindless BS. It boggles the mind! All teachers should receive combat pay as well as additonal bonuses for the PTSD that they will get from all the players in the game.

    I am with ALL teachers on this issue. We can talk about increasing academic standards (my main concern) for some teachers in another forum. The invective that I hear coming from administrators is repugnant. It's the old "divide and conquer" strategy. If you tell a teacher that she is "good enough" to be an administrator, she forgets who she really is (a teacher) and starts believing the deceptive advice from other administrators.

    How about this quote? "...You can always tell, because "they" just stand up when you walk in the classroom..!"
    From "administrative secretary" to administrator. Sound supportive? "

    RU4REAL wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:19 PM:

    " Contrapasso...You seem to forget, I'm not the one who is bragging about how good I am, or whining about how little I'm appreciated. So, self-righteous...maybe, but only when others play the "poor me" card without a full deck. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 11, 2009 12:56 PM:

    " RU4REAL- You missed the point. There is a correlation between wood rot and many classified desk jockeys and there is also a correlation with termites and the same people. In the case of the "vermin" as you described, both require cellulose. But wood rot only needs to be removed and replaced with treated wood. Termites however, are invasive and onmce removed will fly around for another infestation. My question concerned which was her choice?

    You may not grasp the concept, so I used a metaphor. "

    Contrapasso wrote on Feb 11, 2009 12:35 PM:

    " Edu-maybe a fungal infestation?? "

    Contrapasso wrote on Feb 11, 2009 12:33 PM:

    " RU4:Sorry-but it's you who are egotistical because you are too arrogant and self-righteous to reconsider your position even when faced with truth.
    It is not egotistical to state the truth. It is not egotistical to want to be in a job that serves others. I can't speak for everyone who teaches, but many people who teach just want to be of service to others. That doesn't equate to egotism at all. "

    RU4REAL wrote on Feb 11, 2009 11:43 AM:

    " edumacation...perhaps the word you're so furiously searching for is "vermin"? It appears, with your limited focus, this is the only word that would provide the satisfaction you seek? "

    RU4REAL wrote on Feb 11, 2009 10:08 AM:

    " You're absolutely right, Contrapasso. In rethinking my position, I realized that I forgot to add egotistical to the list. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 11, 2009 9:30 AM:

    " RU4REAL- "...dark moments..? You are watching to many soap operas. The only dark moments are for those teachers who work 60+ hrs/week under scrutiny from parents, students and educrats, parents, and students. All the rest of it is fluff and unnecessary. Bus drivers can pat themselves on the back all they want, but they could do the exact same jobs for a bus transportation company subcontractor. The same is true for payroll, janitorial services, maintenance aand operations, food service and many others. They will still have jobs but lousy performers can be easily fired and the $100,000/year administrative secretarys with their cellphones and Blackberrys will go the way of the DODO bird. Thousands of school districts contract out support services and save hundreds of millions in bloated head office positions and salaries. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 11, 2009 8:33 AM:

    " Contrapasso- Woodrot or termites? Which is the best description of the pest infestation at the ESC? "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 11, 2009 8:30 AM:

    " RU4REAL- As a parent of children who were former students in the district and as a business owner and credentialed teacher I am able to hear conversations that are hidden from most. I have had many disccussions with self-important educrats at the ESC. What do they think about teachers. They reflect a bias against all teachers but their friends. This is puzzling because they are supposed to suppoort teachers. They actually beleive, as you outlined here, that teachers are expendable worker bees whi can never get anything right according to their grand plans. They believe this fiction for several resons: These include outageous pay and benefits, feedback from like-minded educrats that "we -the educrats" know whats best for everyone. Some of these are credentialed and some are not. The credentialed ones were kicked out of the classroom years ago because of unsatisfactory performance. Why aren't they teaching today if they are such super teachers? Luckily many of these pretenders have let their credentials expire. The remainder can go look for job where they can contribute instead of take. Try to get rid of wood rot! "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 11, 2009 8:17 AM:

    " RU4REAL- Edumacation, was derived from hearing the mis-prounciation of the word education by LUSD administrators! The lack of academic training of these folks is obvious! I had the opportunity to observe teachers instructing students. It was dismaying to watch teachers hand lettering spelling words on a chalkboard---with the word mis-spelled. I once observed a third grade teacher print "SPEACH" not once but several times on the word wall and the chalkboard. She was allegedly teaching her students how to spell the word. I questioned her, and she tried to tell me that she was correct. She looked it up in the dictionary and "OOps---they don't have a spellchecking chalkboard--" was the response.

    I realize that the most important LUSD employees to you are the administrative secretarys, bus drivers, gardeners and food service workers. Schools were designed for STUDENTS and PARENTS, not service workers! Can you imagine a school with NO teachers? Can you get those $100k/year "administrative secretarys" off their chairs and out into the school to teach what? typing and filing? My solution? Immediately develop proposals to contract out non-instructional services. Save money and stop clerical bloat! "

    Contrapasso wrote on Feb 11, 2009 8:11 AM:

    " RU4: I resent the implication that teachers think only of themselves. If that was the truth, why on earth would we enter a profession that requires us to give so much of ourselves? The job is hard. Let me tell you. We do much more than reading, writing and math. We listen to your children, we care for them, we offer them guidance. Teachers spend more time with kids per day than many parents do, and they certainly spend more time with the students than the administrators at the district office. So you might want to rethink your position. "

    RU4REAL wrote on Feb 11, 2009 6:06 AM:

    " edumacation....Humm, can't find that one in the dictionary, but no matter. If you're naive enough to think that teaching "just happens", without "behind the scenes" work of many others, you're living in La La Land. Teachers don't order food, process pay checks, pay utilities, build the very schools they teach in, maintain the schools, bus your students to your school, maintain those busses, mow the lawns, research and provide healthcare services, lobby the state for additional funds (except through your union), ensure your students receive the health services they require, and keep all of these services running cohesively. As the saying goes, "No man is an island", and teachers can't do it all on their own. Are there redundant services and staffing issues at the JAESC? Most certainly. But condemning the entire District Office as bloated and unnecessary is to live with your head in the sand. During dark moments such as we're experiencing now, cool, rational, compassionate thinking is required, not the "it's all about me" mentality you bring with you. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 11:41 PM:

    " RU4REAL 741- You destroy your solution with TWO very poisonous pills. The notion that WORKING teachers should voluntarily reduce their pay was coupled (though odd) with the rediculous.

    Quote in relevant part: "... to enable their peers, and those who play needed supporting services, to maintain employment at reduced wages.." WHAT THE ? The reason we have a fiscal problem is that the hogs in the ESC sty are oinking and they ALWAYS EAT FIRST! Teachers get the leftovers.

    1) What are these "needed support services"? Official "textbook counters" and such. NONSENSE! Counting books is a real $120k/yr job?! These edumacrats are self-appointed managers of wasting time. How can anyone justify "secretarys" at higher pay than teachers? But there is another secret--"secretary" is the legal personnel title provided to the school board, to justify the salary expenses. In the LUSD ESC fantasy world they also give organizational titles to these "secretarys" since the high pay is not enough for their fragile egos!

    2) Did you forget about the million dollar pension INCREASE last year to the Interim Superintendent for about 100 days of "work" = $10,000/day!?? "

    blossom wrote on Feb 10, 2009 7:44 PM:

    " NNO to a PAY CUT!!!! Not until they get rid of FAT!!!!! NO WAY "

    blossom wrote on Feb 10, 2009 7:42 PM:

    " Oh you are talking about R.C. That was not the one I was refering to the one I was refering to is STILL at the D.o on vine street probably counting books........ she was the last Principal at LMS before this new guy came on board. "

    RU4REAL wrote on Feb 10, 2009 7:41 PM:

    " If teachers think they're alone in todays struggle to stay afloat financially, they need to go back to school. If they truly cared about anything other than themselves, they would consider a district wide reduction in salary, at all levels, to enable their peers, and those who play needed supporting services, to maintain employment at reduced wages. Anything is better than no job, receiving an IOU every week. I hear your mouth, but no backbone in your breath. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 5:56 PM:

    " loadeye-- I don't descriminate on the basis of gender preference or orientation until its time to vote YES on 8. The query I made to your friend. Does he play the harmonica? If he does I know the name of his wannabe "outlaw" motorcycle gang. I thought he was too old for that stuff. But as they say in the San Franciso Castro district, to each his (or her) own, or another phrase caveat emptor! LOL. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 5:48 PM:

    " Contrapasso- That is rediculous! Are you serious! How in tarnation can you take a student whose parents are hypnotized by novellas, with Cumbia music blasting out of the house, they may not read or write any language, including from their native homeland and with all this, motivate them to read Macbeth. King Duncan might get upset! Maybe you can encourage the worst of the lot to play Thane of Cawdor? Who wants the honor to do this deed? I bet Odie has no clue what we are talking about. Go figure! I need some Lodi Red. "

    loadeye wrote on Feb 10, 2009 4:43 PM:

    " Edumacation, I notice commonsense1, has suddenly lost power to his computer. No wonder the old boy is so hot for the male members of the council. I was wondering why that person at the coffee shop is always glaring at me.He always looks like he's angry at the world. Still drives that older car? I always thought he was a nice guy. Still do. "

    Contrapasso wrote on Feb 10, 2009 1:15 PM:

    " Guess what other gift Odie Douglas has given Lodi Unified? He spearheaded the drive to get rid of all remedial Engish classes. So now, we are expected to teach every student college prep curriculum, despite skill level, amount of English spoken, or interest level. Imagine facing 35 students, with reading levels from 3rd grade to 12th grade, and trying to teach Shakespeare!It's a nighmare. Thanks, Odie.....you have increased my stress level and my blood pressure. They are both going up much more quickly than the test scores!! "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 12:56 PM:

    " Commonsense1: Do I know you? Here are some questions" Do you play the harmonica? Do you ride a Harley? In the 70's, were you a "druggie who used LSD...and did bad things"? Did you once own a gas station, fail at it, and open up a Real estate office? Do you always have a big grin on your face?

    This will be good. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 12:49 PM:

    " Commonsense1-- Those are NOT profits. You have to pay taxes on profits. LOL

    I mostly buy from others. Why sell gold bullion that is going up in value?

    Many see Gold to $3,000/ounce!

    Besides, there is a difference between below ground gold ore and above ground gold bullion. Ever since Newmont closed their Carlin, NV mining operation, I switched to gold bullion. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 12:44 PM:

    " Contrapasso- I thought you knew why clerk typists at the ESC had higher pay than teachers? Whn I first started homeschooling my kids, the district and county went ballistic (today, my kids are either graduates or attend a school within the the University of Calfornia).

    In my very first education course, the professor said they conducted a study of hundreds of California public schools to learn why so many new teachers quit teaching (up to 50% in the first 2 years). They conducted exit interviews and learned that "the principals secretary", "department headquarters clerks" and "custodians" were the main reason stated for new teachers quitting the profession!

    The lesson was: Never park in a secretarys parking spot, Never leave your classroom in disarray! If possible, bring your own vacuum cleaner to clean or scrub the the floors! And never ever let any "central office clerk" get upset at you.

    I was amazed how the lowest echelon support people have so much influence. I later learned that this was endemic throughout California. What is your experience? "

    commonsense1 wrote on Feb 10, 2009 12:37 PM:

    " edumacation......Think any of these profits you boast of are coming at the expense of the 3300+ gold miners trapped in mines over the past 30 days? Evidently, those "good old boys" running the gold mines and making huge salaries (and profits for you) are OK. Funny how that works. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 12:28 PM:

    " Contrapasso- You need to say that at the meeting! I literally started a laugh that needs some "Lodi Red" to quench.

    I would like to see this on a David Letterman monologue-- First he did a story about Mr. Pickles dancing in the middle of Lodi Avenue--- Now he needs to comment about PIZZA at the LUSD school board meeting! I hope he gives you credit for the quip.
    I'll send this LNS news clip to CBS to see what THEY say!

    CONTRAPASSO: " I think I'll have the Odie special....all flapping tongue. They best part of this pizza is that it's served with WHINE and cheese...! Is that Lodi whine?

    I bet CBS would love to ask questions about $120k/year "book counters", million dollar handshakes and "Assistants" to the Assistant Superintendent of educational services. It would be excellent to watch them yapping away justifying their own jobs, while terminating teachers and reducing school hours (their next ploy). "

    Contrapasso wrote on Feb 10, 2009 12:13 PM:

    " Edu: I think I'll have the Odie special....all flapping tongue. They best part of this pizza is that it's served with WHINE and cheese.

    I wish I could go to the meeting. I would like to know why clerk/typists make more money than teachers.....not that anyone would bother to explain.

    About 3 months ago, some LUSD teachers had to go to a week long training to learn how to use an anthology that we will probably be retiring in the next few years. The district really does use money wisely...huh? And what about the proposed closure of Clements school? They were going to spend 50,000 dollars to save 4862 dollars. I wonder who the genius is who thought up that solution, and how much he/she gets paid? Thank goodness common sense prevailed for once and the school will stay open. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 11:35 AM:

    " commonsense1---LOL Brass ring? How about 24 Kt GOLD rings I receive instant updates 24 hrs from KITCO on world Spot Gold prices. Lets see at 15:00 hrs its $915/oz up from $892/oz this morning. I may have missed the brass ring, but am up to my ears in Gold ones. ROFL
    Have you heard?
    As Obama bails out banks, US currency loses value and GOLD increases in value. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 11:23 AM:

    " Contrapasso- Pepperoni or sausage...on your pizza? Is it true that the ESC will be ordering Pizza for all parents who show up with their kids?

    Wednesday, FEBRUARY 11th--- 1305 E VINE street 6:00 PM FREE PARKING for parents. VALET service for Administrators only. Bring your notepads and tape recorders. Prepare to start asking lots of questions. "

    commonsense1 wrote on Feb 10, 2009 11:19 AM:

    " edumacation....Obviously, there are a lot of people/investors buying houses at forclosure and flipping them for a profit. Know of one guy that purchased more than 20 forclosures last year! Making money in real estate must be shocking to you. Personally, I don't have the knowledge, nerve, time or money to do that. I'm happy with my home, but don't begrudge those that are smart enough to make money in good or bad times. Apparently, you have never experienced a good financial time. Sounds like you have always missed the 'brass-ring" and of course, this has not been your fault. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 11:11 AM:

    " Commonsense1---If making decisions became "gut wrenching", perhaps you need to seek a different line of work? Management is about decisions...no "gut wrenching" allowed. If others tell you "what to do" than you are not really a manager---Get my drift? "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 11:06 AM:

    " blossom---In your post you said "he" but I knew better. She was very happy the day she no longer had to listen to irate parents and whining teenagers and instead get an uber-promotion to count books. I think her job function went to the county so she could supervise other book counters? But all the LUSD educrats know exactly what we are talking about. The only thing that has changed is the color of her check---and the amount.

    Remember last year when our last "Interim" Superintendent received his huge pay increase and later his additional milllion dollar pension benefit for 100 days of work? I think he was wondering about how a person who only counts books (The Williams Act--I think?), can make more than the Asst Superintendent of Personnel. I can see this justifying getting paid MORE than text book counters.

    Hey mommy! Look at them, they have IPods---I want one too... I mean...er.. a.. Blackberrys. LOL "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 10:57 AM:

    " Loadeye-- Why don't you get a part time job with the LUSD for one of those book counting jobs? Lets see at only 2 hours per day, not counting coffee breaks, you could earn $40,000/year additional income. You still get "paid" holidays, sick leave, vacation, maybe even overtime. This would greatly increase your income? "

    blossom wrote on Feb 10, 2009 10:56 AM:

    " Edu?? she told you? You atually talk to that person?? I didnt know she rubbed elbows with anyone who couldnt promote her? "

    commonsense1 wrote on Feb 10, 2009 10:55 AM:

    " Loadeye....First, let me say I have been self employed for 30+ years and have had to make a lot of tough decisions during that time. I admire people that have worked their way to the top through hard work, education, risk-taking, investment, etc. Sometimes being at the top means you have to make difficult decisions, especially during tough economic times. Whether you're self employed, work as an executive/administrator, it's also your job to make gut-wrenching decisions when necessary. Having to lay off an employee is horrible. But, that's what you are expected and paid to do. "

    blossom wrote on Feb 10, 2009 10:53 AM:

    " loadeye, I couldn't agree more I can think of several hat should go to Berkley with Huyett!
    IO think this monster has more than 3 or 4 heads there are like 20!! "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 10:53 AM:

    " Contapasso--You gave us the solution! Odie believes (SEED contracts) that all caucasians (whatever that is?) have an "invisible knapsack" that they carry everywhere that gives them advantages from, birth. Hhhm--I guess that theory is untenable since we have Obama as President? Odie--good job, we have a person of color in the white house--thanks to you. You did your job now retire! "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 10:47 AM:

    " Commonsense1- I agree- "lets get rid of the overacheivers who get $120k/year to literally count text books. i wonder if they count this way? 1..2..3..4..5..6.. OR 2..4..6..8..10...or 3..6..9..15...? At that pay they are probbaly doing it 1..2..3..4..5..6.. What do you think? I bet its more income than you would make going around buying and flipping houses? Wait what ever happened to that way (house flipping) of making millions? Oooh , it caused the housing bubble which caused the banks collapse when we learned that homeowners who earn $45k/year must pay $30k/year in house payments. "

    Contrapasso wrote on Feb 10, 2009 10:24 AM:

    " Commonsense1: Odie Douglas does not possess better communication skills and he doesn't work harder or smarter than anyone! Have you ever heard some of the BLATHER that comes out of his "more educated" mouth? His position was created by his buddy Huyett. He has done little more than demoralize Caucasian teachers by telling them that they aren't equipped to teach students of color and that they are part of a great big oppressive society bent on maintaining oppression of various ethnic groups. That's his legacy at Lodi Unified. Cut him and save 3 or 4 teachers!! "

    Loadeye wrote on Feb 10, 2009 9:51 AM:

    " Commonsense1, only some government freeloader at the pig trough would say something like that. How many educated idiots like yourself are there at ESC? Just how much intelligence does it take to count books and have your numerous assistants purchase and download all those bogus computer program that're useless? Are you from the dark side, common? "

    jramagic wrote on Feb 10, 2009 9:50 AM:

    " Its high time we reduced America to the lowest common denominator...eh, Comrade? "

    commonsense1 wrote on Feb 10, 2009 9:24 AM:

    " It is absolutely shocking that these administrators, principals, etc. are being paid more money. It's hard to believe, if you work harder, smarter, educate yourself, possess good communication skills, etc., means you might get promoted and paid more. How disgusting is that? It's just not fair. The only sensible way of solving this problem, is to get rid of these over-achievers. "

    blossom wrote on Feb 10, 2009 9:10 AM:

    " Hey,
    I can count!! I am hired at a fraction of the cost!!!!
    : ) "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 7:55 AM:

    " Blssom-- I think we can even save them, money by hiring us instead? Will you take a "pay cut" to only get $90,000/ year with three months vacations and paid holidays? I thought so, you just "saved" them $30,000/year! And the middle dchool principal can go back to doing the work she was trained for, and you can get a pay cut to only $90,000/year to count books for her? "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 10, 2009 7:51 AM:

    " Blossom 216pm- Thats true! She told me they gave her a job with a raise of $40,000/year! Guess what she does? She told me they have her "counting books"! Apprently, you can't just read the textbook bills. You have to walk around to each classroom and count each book. If you were able to count 100 books per day, at 365 days per year, older books (previously counted) could start falling apart requiring replacement and the books would have to be counted again. I have an idea Blossom! I think we are smart enough to count books. I even have a few teaching credentials that prove that I can read. Lets both apply for more book counting jobs and retire like the rest of the crowd at the ESC? "

    karensays wrote on Feb 10, 2009 6:03 AM:

    " Blossom, et. al.;
    I had hope that things would be different too, but unfortunately it is now clear that Ms. Washer became one of the "good ol' boys club" the minute she took that job for a $75k pay raise and then claimed the district office had already made all it's cuts and the rest would come from outside the ESC.... ironic or sad? You make the call... "

    shockedinlodi wrote on Feb 9, 2009 10:11 PM:

    " The Budget meeting is 2/11/09 at 6:00PM at the main office. It would be nice to have a full turn out to fight the two, three, four or however headed monster. "

    loadeye wrote on Feb 9, 2009 8:31 PM:

    " Blossom, maybe those administraitors, pardon my pun, could go to Berkley and go to work for Huyett. I've said to can Huyett for years and was called a fruitcake by nellie, reality, patton1 (rear admiral), observer and the rest of the cheergirls. Huyett is the one that brought the worthless software and programs to LUSD and those like Odie Douglas and Ken Davis continue in those same old footsteps and keep milking the cow. Don't these same slackers use the same programming, schedules, data bank for anything they need to know about LUSD or their curriculum. Just on a different computer? So why do we need five administration positions that one could handle easily? That's the pork that needs to go. They're not even going to acknowledge that next years cuts are going to be deeper than this years,and 2011 is expected to be 15% worse than next year.Every parent should home school their child and take that funding away from LUSD until they have to get rid of all that pork in administration that is just deadwood and wasted money. Ms. Nichols-Washer, I have faith in you, please do the job you're paid well to do, no student cuts. "

    lodivice wrote on Feb 9, 2009 8:04 PM:

    " "Let Them Eat Cake" "

    blossom wrote on Feb 9, 2009 4:58 PM:

    " Or Loose Family?? LOL!! "

    gray cloud wrote on Feb 9, 2009 4:19 PM:

    " PS: Bloggers, do not talk pay cuts until you include everyone. In fairness, it can be proportional, but the problem is everyone is overpaid to various degrees. In cases, there are jobs that are simply not needed. The 6 in the curriculum department is only a good start. "

    gray cloud wrote on Feb 9, 2009 4:14 PM:

    " I see a lot of names and positions mentioned, but I believe that Mr Webmaster will delete this: If there ever was an employee whose pay and duties did not match, its Odie. Were he to volunteer and work for free, he still would be overpaid. That salary is an affront to the taxpayers. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 9, 2009 3:54 PM:

    " Blossom---and we never even disucssed all the "relationships" at the ESC! Thats a book by itself. If the public ever knew what some of these people were really like--- I guess that explains the secrecy? I have heard so many stories about these self-appointed gurus. Lets call it the "LUSD family", in the loosest use of the word. LOL "

    blossom wrote on Feb 9, 2009 3:49 PM:

    " Staggering and sad LUSD should be ASHAMED!! "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 9, 2009 3:48 PM:

    " Blossom- I have heard that before Ms Nichols-Washer got out of her car her first day, we had edumacators "volunteering" to help her learn the "Lodi Way". A retired Big shot with big bucks came buzzing around, looking prodding and probing to keep control of their little kingdom at the ESC. I am sure Our Superintendent knows a K.A. when she sees one. I have heard of a few other "helpers" who have been attempting to influence her. Look what happened to Huyett---he was also listening to these schemers. He walked but they are still here yakking it up with the many other Assisistant, Associate and assistant to the assisitant Superintendents. Do they use name badges over there. I wonder if there are some functionaries our Superintendent does not know about?

    All the schemes and games will not teach our kids. "

    blossom wrote on Feb 9, 2009 3:41 PM:

    " I am not so sure the County coming in to run the District is not really a bad thing...... Talk about CUTS!!!!!
    They would FLIP if they saw what was actually going on behind closed doors!
    I welcome that day! "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 9, 2009 3:39 PM:

    " From the LNS list it looks like the Chief personnel clerk AKA "Assistant Superintendent: makes more income than all principals? How do they figure that one? It looks like the LUSD has a severe case of job title inflation as well a salary inflation. We need to eliminate these jobs or slash them to 30% of current pay. I am sure personnel clerks in other school districts don't receive bloated salaries and benefits like they do here in the LUSD. "

    blossom wrote on Feb 9, 2009 3:36 PM:

    " I agree,
    one of the good ol boys however, Washer is not one of the good ol boys.....This is a good thing!
    I think it is awful to lay off 45 People to save 3 mil when they could lay off 25 and be money ahead!!
    This wouldnt even impact the Students!They all have tons of degrees let them go find new jobs, should be easy as wonderful as they all are!The ones that are left can actually earn their money! "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 9, 2009 3:32 PM:

    " Loadeye- Say oink oink to ALL of the bigshot LUSD Administrators! We will lay off teachers and put kids on half day school before they step down. Its all for the kids? "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 9, 2009 3:11 PM:

    " Blossom--click on that link it will take you to 'Do-nothing' land. I randomly selected the Personnel department, they have TWO of them, I am surprised they don't have more. Why can't they have One person who works teachers and the other the other employees? No! We have to have administrative assistants and helpers and another Asst Superintendent and his assistant. It looks like a village filled with chiefs. Where are the workers? How many LUSD workers does it take to replace a lightbulb. Lets see a few dozen Superintendents and a few supervisors to design a plan for a meetimng to decide how to buy the builb and screw it in. Unfortunately, we are the ones getting screwed----We are or paying BIG salaries.

    Blossom--Didn't our last million dollar superintendent come out of the Personnel Department? Are they inventing something in there? Why all the people, all they need us a few typewriters. I smell dead fish in that department. What do you think?

    As they say---the fish ROTS from the HEAD down. "

    loadeye wrote on Feb 9, 2009 3:11 PM:

    " Ahhh, nellie! You just get out of your cheerleading class? Thanks for bringing up Hansen and the NCPA. After we're done cutting the LUSD pig trough, we'll cut the LEUD pig trough and tell both Hansen and the NCPA bye-bye. And with the advent of computers, why does LUSD need so many assistants and secretaries? They hire and pay as if they're still handwriting and filing the old fashioned way. Aren't the new curriculum changes all done by new computer software costing hundreds of thousands of dollars? Why won't anyone from LUSD administration come up with all the numbers and figures? It's because they don't want us to know those true figures. They'd be laughed out of town when we see job titles created just for friends, relatives and favors. When our teachers' salaries hit 100K a year then administration should be allowed to make the same amount. Don't forget, either, most of these positions are for only 9 months of work.Those annual salaries should be computed to 75% of a yearly salary. And time the administrators partially fund their own health plan, like they've forced the much lower paid teachers to do. "

    wtf wrote on Feb 9, 2009 2:56 PM:

    " D*mn! Thanks for the link, edumacation....it sure looks from where I'm sitting there's an awful lot of duplication.

    As an example: All those financial staff positions could be handled by one department. "

    karensays wrote on Feb 9, 2009 2:19 PM:

    " FYI: No, teachers do not get reimbursed any longer for mileage, etc. AND if you look at the pay/insurance scale you will see that all the administrators have full paid medical, unlike the rest of us lowly teachers. I AGREE - FIRE THE POLITICIANS and HIRE ECON TEACHERS who give a crap about the kids! The over-paid district positions MUST GO NOW! Why are any of them making over six figures? $2000 a day? Are you kidding me? Like another writer noted, we could pay 3 teachers for an Odie Douglas position, which is just for appearances in Lodi Unified so we don't look like the racists we are constantly being accused of! And, why is nobody willing to identify WHY our enrollment is down? It's not a secret, it's FORECLOSURES! And, turning off the heater in my room during break is not "spending money to save money" - last year during the summer my room at school was 50 degrees!! GEEZ!! Has everyone lost their ever-lovin' minds? "

    blossom wrote on Feb 9, 2009 2:16 PM:

    " That is what I posted earlier Edumacation,
    All of the jobs are not there, what about the old principal at Lodi Middle School??
    She is at the D.O. making 100K or more in a job that was created just for her??
    Why do they keep hiding numbers??
    Makes me wonder and they want to cut pay when they need to get rid of ALL THE EXCESS FAT!!!!!!!Then come to the employees and ask to reduce pay..... "

    Whoa Nellie! wrote on Feb 9, 2009 1:23 PM:

    " Loadeye, there you go again! The article is on the budget woes of LUSD and you throw in three lines (one run-on sentence btw) about the City. Same old rant about Hansen and NCPA. What, can't think of anything new?

    "Trustee Calvin Young, who is already taking a 10 percent pay decrease at his day job, said a 6 percent cut across the district's payroll would only save $9.6 million."-- well, thats almost half money right there. The educrats, teachers, and classified folks should be HAPPY to take a 6% cut to save their job and the jobs of many of their co-workers. Take a look around, jobs are being lost EVERYWHERE. One thing for sure, it is going to get ugly. "

    edumacation wrote on Feb 9, 2009 1:17 PM:

    " Lets get some transparency instead of obfuscation. The LNS has a list of a few titles and salaries. Who else is hiding inside the ESC?

    Here is the portal to the Neverland at the LUSD. Its mostly online-except for the numerous consultants, subcontractors and categorical programs.

    Point your browser to:

    http://www.lodiusd.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=144&Itemid=83

    www.LODIUSD.NET home page

    And carefully examine all the captions in RED. Each caption--according to the LUSD legend represents a division.

    Not all functionaries are listed, only the top few employees. I suggest taking out a piece of paper and writing up a list of the many many departments.

    Just because only one secretary at $60,000/year is listed does not mean there are not more assistants and helpers.


    Now ask this question, with ALL these people running around promoting themselves, HOW MANY CHILDREN DO THEY TEACH IN THAT ESC building? I doubt that many students are taking instruction inside. This makes an inquisitive taxpayer wonder: What is REALLY going on in there? If they aren't teaching, why can't we contract out the work or at least computerize the operation. "

    Contrapasso wrote on Feb 9, 2009 1:07 PM:

    " If Odie was cut, 3 or 4 teachers could keep their jobs. "

    Contrapasso wrote on Feb 9, 2009 1:05 PM:

    " Let's see....Cut Odie Douglas, who sits in a "created" position and tells white teachers that they are incapable of teaching students of color because they don't have the same background....That's a no brainer!!!!! "

    Rhodie wrote on Feb 9, 2009 11:39 AM:

    " Bob: This is why I am a firm supporter in elected officials making the average income of the people they represent. Get rid of these people who spend thier whole lives aimed at political office and get a few more teachers (hopefully and economics professor or two), police officers and farmers in to the government and it will truely become a government of the people AND by the people. Having a bunch of lawyers and administrators in charge is what is destroying the economy of the country. "

    dogs4you wrote on Feb 9, 2009 11:37 AM:

    " wtf both of your posts are the best I have read in a long time.
    loadeye you say they should fire both King and Hanson, who is "they" loadeye, even though they don`t come up to your high standards, untill election time rolls around enjoy the ride since it will be a rough one. BTW I agree. "

    Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Feb 9, 2009 11:30 AM:

    " Rhodie, one problem with school funding is the restrictions placed on it by the state. Those projects you mentioned were paid for with funds that can only be used for maintenance or repair. The money cannot be shifted around to a higher priority. This is one thing that needs to change. Districts need greater flexibility to use their allotted funds. That will relieve a lot of the budget stress. This has to be approved by the legislature. Good luck there... "

    Rhodie wrote on Feb 9, 2009 11:23 AM:

    " "The current year's budget is $6.4 million out of balance"

    Here's a question; if the burdge was out of balance already, why did Larson spend money on reseeding a fresh playground, it looks just as it did before. And how much did the repaving of Tokay's parking lot cost this time? I'm sure those of you involved with other schools could have examples of money that was spent that could have been used to balance the budget instead.

    Something tells me if any budget orientated person other than an administrator for the school district looked at the budgets they could find solutions. "

    momto2 wrote on Feb 9, 2009 11:20 AM:

    " I absolutely think that some NON-EDUCATOR ~ which is to say non teaching positions should be merged together. I also think that the staff who are responsible for choosing curriculum should stop changing the required curriculum from year to year because "new and improved" teaching material come out. I understand the need to have the most up to date stuff but really? The teachers just get accustomed to one curriculum and low and behold here's a new one for the new school year. How much $$ is being shelved each year? If we have the fifth largest economy in the world why are our kids continually being used as "sacrifical lambs"? Education should be at the very bottom of the list of cuts, our prisoners have access to free education at whatever expense, but my son's teacher is at risk of losing her job? The thinking here is way off course. Infuriating that this is even a news story, as a tax payer I know that my husband and I pay more than our fair share to send our child to public school, yet here we are in a "crisis". "

    concerned parent wrote on Feb 9, 2009 9:03 AM:

    " Washer doesn't think that taking a pay cut would really make a difference. You make me sick Washer!!!! Our kids are going to suffer and you don't even care. Class sizes are going to increase. What happened to NO child left behind. What about the kids who struggle now, just think of what is going to happen to them now if the class sizes increase. They will always be behind. Teachers are going to loose their jobs and Washer doesn't care as long as she doesn't take a pay cut! I am going to homeschool my kids. This way I don't have to think about how sick Washer makes me!! YUCK!!! "

    shockedinlodi wrote on Feb 9, 2009 8:38 AM:

    " I think the Associate Superintendent should be a position that should be cut. Then everyone underneath him. He makes $164,275.00 because he has his doctrine. Also, combine Assistant Superintendent of elementary education and Assistant Superintendent of secondary education. If enrollment is down combining them seems the right thing to do. So there is a savings of $308,234.00. Maybe they should look at the structure of other districts of similar size to find out other positions that are not needed. Also, look at Contracted Services this has a high price tag I wonder if any of the Contracted Services that can be cut. Nice job Lodi News for finally asking the question. I would like to see the teacher salary left alone, but maybe that is not possible. "

    Acampo_Mom wrote on Feb 9, 2009 8:35 AM:

    " I'm just curious...how many people (positions) would be involved? ie. how many are employed by LUSD? "

    stucknlodi wrote on Feb 9, 2009 8:26 AM:

    " myself and a lot of others that I know have taken a 20% paycut since last year, oh but wait, we are in the private sector. the public sector would cry if they had to take a 5 or 8% cut. I would rather have a 20% paycut and still have my job than to be laid off. Geez the State employees are taking 2 days off each month now, what is that about 8 to 10% pay cut. "

    blossom wrote on Feb 9, 2009 8:20 AM:

    " Their are positions that are NOT listed in the TOP wage earners.
    These were positions for incompetant Principals... for instance C. Pennington who is more than capeable of doing her job has an assistant and She has a secretary also.... Why was that position not listed??
    Their is still fluff in there and we are NOT being told of it....
    Get rid of all cell phones and blackberries, if they want them they make MORE THAN ENOUGH TO PAY FOR THEM!!
    Cut at the top that is where the waste is!!! "

    Rhodie wrote on Feb 9, 2009 8:01 AM:

    " From the article: "Each of the seven board members also receive mileage and other reimbursements when on district business, according to board bylaws."

    Even a halfway competant accountant can tell you that travel for work is a tax deduction. I wonder if any of these employees of LUSD get the reimbursment and claim the milage on their taxes?

    Here is the milage deduction list right from the IRS website.
    http://www.irs.gov/taxpros/article/0,,id=156624,00.html "

    loadeye wrote on Feb 9, 2009 7:51 AM:

    " Amen, Wileycoyote! When are they going to fire King and Hansen,too? "

    wtf wrote on Feb 9, 2009 7:51 AM:

    " The article mentions blackberries and their allegedly insignificant cost. I would scrap all of the hi-tech toys, such as blackberries and cellphones, if they're paid for by the district.

    If the individual pays for them, that's a different matter. You mentioned health care costs, loadeye, and I was thinking of that, too. ;)

    Health insurance is a hidden cost that is way over priced along with prescription drugs - drugs that often are more harmful than helpful. Perhaps, especially since this **is** the "teaching" profession, the individuals involved should learn to take more responsibility for their health and that of their familites, and reduce "health care" costs.

    "Health" care has gotten to ridiculous proportions and much of it isn't health care at all because it's disease and illness that keep the health care industry in business along with drugs whose side effects are worse than what they allegedly help. "

    wileycoyote wrote on Feb 9, 2009 7:32 AM:

    " It is very simple, if the Superintendent gets $230,000 per year then he/she should be capable of doing the job.
    Therefore anyone with "associate" or "assistant" in their job description is not needed and should be fired ... immediately. "

    loadeye wrote on Feb 9, 2009 7:31 AM:

    " wtf, you're so right on! If they can't perform and students are dropping out because the curriculum these administrators offer is nothing but an expensive piece of software they even know nothing about, they should take a pay cut amounting to the same percentage of funding they're losing. You can thank Huyett for most of this. Many of the same administrators are still on payroll and they just literally sit and collect their pay. With all those secretaries, assistants and everything computerized, why do we need these freeloaders? The longer they've been at the pig trough, the worse it gets each year. If we're paying these outlandish salaries, let's get someome capable of doing the job, not just riding the gravy train. C'mon Ms. Nichols-Washer, show your capabilities and get rid of that deadwood and unneeded pork.
    Then city hall and city council should be on the agenda next. Lodi is deeper in debt every day, yet, the select few are still getting raises. "

    loadeye wrote on Feb 9, 2009 7:23 AM:

    " Let's see the real figures, with car and fuel, business lunches, salary, health plan and retirement, not just some scam numbers.
    That should include city manager, city clerk, division department heads, LEUD director should be fired and Hansen do it for free since he's chief boardman for the NCPA and owes Lodians a couple hundred million for his bad judgement, and appoint Ms. Ann Cerney as Mayor! That would be a great day. "
    They're all overpaid in malfunctioning positions and anyone can see that until they can turn their financial positions and spending around, they're the ones to take the first. I have faith in our superintendant, Ms. Nichols-Washer, but her salary is ugly. Lodi is still in a dreamworld and deep into denial when they continually spend money unneedlessly and keep voting one another raises. The whole wage structure should be based on results, not what another person in that same position makes in some other city that has itself put together and isn't just pumping out dropouts ad D students like LUSD is. "

    wtf wrote on Feb 9, 2009 7:20 AM:

    " A 10% cut across the board - including the superintendents sounds fair to me. Actually, I'd drop all these overpaid people's salary to $100,000 which would still give them virtually double what the teachers make; but a 10% cut is a good start.

    But I wonder if it couldn't go further than that. If lay offs are inevitable, and class enrollment is down, maybe some of the superintendent positions can be eliminated and rolled into one thereby saving an entire salary in addition to pay cuts. "

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