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What is Obama's first serious foreign issue?


Tuesday, February 3, 2009 6:03 AM PST

So, once again Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has decided to take on the United States of America.

His recent demand for apologies for our " ... dark background and the crimes (we) have committed against the Iranian nation" was met with a rather vague response from the new administration wherein Obama called for " ... more dialogue with Iran to express differences and see 'where there are potential avenues for progress.'" Our new Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton reiterated Obama's stance when she told reporters that "the U.S. administration is undertaking a wide-ranging and comprehensive survey of U.S. foreign policy options toward Iran."

Keep in mind that, whenever any politician invokes the word "comprehensive" in a description of any potential policy, it means that they simply have no idea what they are going to do.

But I agree with Ahmadinejad — we do owe the Iranian people an apology. We should beg for their forgiveness for continuing to permit someone like their illustrious president to continue to lead their nation. At the very least we should continuously stand firm against this rogue nation and its desire to obliterate Israel. Just how comprehensive a policy should we develop regarding a nation that continues to refer to the Holocaust as a "myth?" Iran may very well be the first serious foreign matter on President Obama's plate; it will be interesting to watch how this plays out.

I recall that, as Ahmadinejad was running for Iran's presidency, more than one former U.S. hostage vividly recalls him as one of his captors back in 1980. Of course these claims were not given the serious consideration that they deserved. Yet what could we have done about it then? The only "change" in U.S. policy that Obama should employ is to step up our opposition to this thug and convince the Iranian people to rid themselves of this evil man.

Jerome Kinderman
Lodi

Reader Feedback

Lodian wrote on Feb 10, 2009 7:54 PM:

" Brian wrote "Lodian, if we relied on you to provide an interesting landscape in these bloggs it would be as barren as the Sahara. It is only because of people like me that you are able to chime in."


ROTFLMAO! Sure, dude. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 10, 2009 7:51 PM:

" Brian wrote "Your friends in the Tenderloin District are cheering you on."

Great message. Please turn around and tell them thanks. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 10, 2009 7:47 PM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 9, 2009 7:05 AM:

" And Lodian, Since you have said on so many occasions, in so many words, it's nobodies business who Obama associates with, I take it this applies to Pelosi too. "

I've never said that, Brian. Do you always have to make stuff up just so you can see your comments online? lAmE. "

Brian wrote on Feb 9, 2009 6:22 PM:

" http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/01/us_respected_and_bled_for_musl.html

Obama's Unnecessary Apology "

Brian wrote on Feb 9, 2009 7:05 AM:

" And Lodian, Since you have said on so many occasions, in so many words, it's nobodies business who Obama associates with, I take it this applies to Pelosi too.

Your friends in the Tenderloin District are cheering you on. "

Brian wrote on Feb 9, 2009 6:52 AM:

" Lodian wrote:
Brian: No one here on these blogs has taken things as far as you and real facts, no one.

-Lodian, if we relied on you to provide
an interesting landscape in these bloggs it would be as barren as the Sahara. It is only because of people like me that you are able to chime in. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 11:27 PM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 8:51 PM:

" I guess we can agree that we both take things too far."

Brian: No one here on these blogs has taken things as far as you and real facts, no one. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 11:25 PM:

" Brian wrote "I've already had two glasses of wine."

Poor Brian. I suspect he's had more than two glasses of wine. Maybe he's actually on his second bottle. "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 8:55 PM:

" Leonard, We have way too many important things to do in our life than spending it on a mindless blogg. Happy Publishing:):)
And I'll tend to my clocks. "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 8:51 PM:

" I guess we can agree that we both take things too far. I've already had two glasses of wine. I am confident that we have much more in common, politics aside, and we should concentrate on those things. However, we may occasionally miss a good jabb here and there. So I may digress. Good night. :) "

Leonard wrote on Feb 8, 2009 8:43 PM:

" Ah, Brian, I can't take it any more.

I'm going to have a night cap, read for a while and call it a night.

Have a good one. "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 8:36 PM:

" Since you don't swing that way, and neither do I, I would think you would be just as outraged about this. But you weren't when I explained it in the past, then why should I expect you to feel any different? "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 8:30 PM:

" Leonard wrote:
YOU, however, have made repeated references over the years to the content of those websites and various videos of the Folsom Street Fair.

-It's mainly because this Fair goes on in Nancy Pelosi's congressional district in SF. Since she is third in line to President I feel obligated to inform as many people as possible that she is an advocate and supporter, (I have proof), of this Gay Fair where men are givng service to other men and their are children in plain site of this, If that matters to you. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 8, 2009 8:20 PM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 7:52 PM:

-I was figuratively speaking. This literal translation of what I said
begs me to think that you might be sneaking around viewing sites of gays getting their jollies at the Folsom Street Fair in SF. Is their something we don't know about you, Leonard?


LOL!

As I said, I don't swing that way.

YOU, however, have made repeated references over the years to the content of those websites and various videos of the Folsom Street Fair.

Methinks Brian dost protest too much! "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 7:52 PM:

" Leonard wrote:
This picture of black men having sexual contact with other men's bottoms seems to me a recurrent fantasy for you.

-I was figuratively speaking. This literal translation of what I said
begs me to think that you might be sneaking around viewing sites of gays getting their jollies at the Folsom Street Fair in SF. Is their something we don't know about you, Leonard? "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 7:41 PM:

" Leonard,

Your last 3 post are typical of you unwillingness to engage in a reasonable conversation. So do me a favor and keep your chicken S*&t comments abou meoff these bloggs and we'll all be better off. From now on, if you have anything asinine to say to me, shoot me an email, and I'll do the same. I'll make sure that a close business contact of mine, who has been a close friend of John McCain for over 20 years, knows you don't think he is the kind person I should be associating with. I'll relay this to another business contact, that had a fund raiser for John McCain during the campaign about your sentiments also. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 8, 2009 4:29 PM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 3:53 PM:

I have yet to run across anyone who thinks I am a racist because I want to discuss the issue of race evolution


I think you need to get out more and to associate with a better class of people. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 8, 2009 4:28 PM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 3:50 PM:

-I would say that every political party has virulent racists.


Interesting.

Do you guys have an email list that you used to do bi partisan networking? "

Leonard wrote on Feb 8, 2009 4:26 PM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 4:01 PM:
" Leonard, please tell us why you think it's ok for B.O. to kiss the imam's butts?


This picture of black men having sexual contact with other men's bottoms seems to me a recurrent fantasy for you.

Personally, I don't swing that way. "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 4:01 PM:

" Leonard, please tell us why you think it's ok for B.O. to kiss the imam's butts? "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 3:59 PM:

" Leonard wrote:
No wonder you didn't do well on the playground.

-Perhaps. Now I don't have any problem slapping a bully upside the head if the situation deems it. "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 3:53 PM:

" Leonard wrote on Feb 8, 2009 12:39 PM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 9:11 AM:

Just to be fair to Leonard I won't mention race evolution again.


I have yet to run across anyone who thinks I am a racist because I want to discuss the issue of race evolution except you and your cronies. You've given an entire new definiton of being out in left field. "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 3:50 PM:

" Leonard wrote:
People just don't believe that virulent racists are still part of the mainstream Republican Party. We need guys like you to remind them.

-I would say that every political party has virulent racists. I would never exclude ANY party. You dems do tend to project things that you are. And what us
mainstream Republicans find non-racist you dems twist it as racist. You constantly remind me how political correctness has rendered the Democratic party ineffective in dealing with issues. You come up with these politicly correct words and phrase to sugar coat a serious issue so as not to offend a person or a group. Appeasement does not work Leonard. I thought by now you could cast aside your political affiliation and at least deal with things from a rational standpoint. I've met so many people that used to be liberals until they saw the light of conservatism. They couldn't believe how
miserable they were as liberals until they became conservative. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 8, 2009 12:39 PM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 9:11 AM:

Just to be fair to Leonard I won't mention race evolution again.


No, please Brian, do continue. My wife and I held a fundraiser for a local Dem a couple of months ago and I actually printed out a couple of your posts to use as examples of how depraved the far right had become.

People just don't believe that virulent racists are still part of the mainstream Republican Party. We need guys like you to remind them. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 8, 2009 12:33 PM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 9:00 AM:
" I'm wondering Leonard, for a member of the B.O. Cult, is it a sin to think about Biden while you are polishing the Obama? :)


Chuckle...

You can't even come up with your own disses.

No wonder you didn't do well on the playground. "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 10:20 AM:

" http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32573_Egyptian_TV-_Cleric_Wishes_for_Another_Holocaust

-Evidently it's not politicly correct to speak highly of Jews in the Middle East. Yet Obama wants to speak highly of the Jews and appease the Imams at the same time. Well, I suggest he shed his appeasement of the Imams if he wants peace in the Middle East. "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 9:31 AM:

" Leonard, the fellow traveler that you are, I started the list for you.:) "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 9:20 AM:

" http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2008/04/another-liberal-caught-up-in-their-own-political-correctness/

Another Liberal Caught Up In Their Own Political Correctness

A clip:

CARPENTERSVILLE, Ill. (AP) - An Illinois delegate for Democratic Sen. Barack Obama resigned after using the word monkeys to describe black children playing in a tree, the Obama campaign said Tuesday.

Of course she meant nothing racial by it. I actually believe her. But sadly in this day and age your fellow travelers have created an environment where if you refer to children climbing in trees like monkeys as monkeys and one of them is black, the book is thrown at you.

And, if its any consolation if you had refered to them as something else, like say hanging in the tree like a bunch of bananas, then liberals would have taken offense to that too. Heck, if you have simply called them children some liberal would have probably said, what do you mean by that!

-Chuckle!!!! "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 9:11 AM:

" Leonard wrote:
As a Democrat, however, I very much encourage you to continue posting on these blogs as often as you possibly can. No one has done more damage to the conservative cause on these blogs than you have.

-The word of Leonard again. Except for Lodian and a few other wobblies, I can rest assured that I have not done any damage to the conservative cause. Just to be fair to Leonard I won't mention race evolution again. I'm worried one of these days his elevated blood pressure is going to blow a gasket.

Leonard, please provide us with a list
of things that aren't politicly correct that shouldn't be discussed
as to not offend "Your Highness". "

Brian wrote on Feb 8, 2009 9:00 AM:

" I'm wondering Leonard, for a member of the B.O. Cult, is it a sin to think about Biden while you are polishing the Obama? :) "

Lodian wrote on Feb 7, 2009 11:25 PM:

" Brian wrote "I can think of quite a few bullies from School in Lodi that just loved to intimidate me."



No way! "

Leonard wrote on Feb 7, 2009 8:49 PM:

" Well, yourself and, perhaps, your devout love for the little Wiener.

Lest anyone get confused, I am, of course, referring to the given name of the diminutive (5'1") Michael "Savage". "

Leonard wrote on Feb 7, 2009 8:47 PM:

" Well, yourself and, perhaps, your devout love for the little Wiener.

I'm wondering Brian, for a member of the Praeger Cult, is it a sin to think about the little Wiener while you are polishing the Praeger?

It all seems a little unnatural to me. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 7, 2009 8:45 PM:

" As for the issue of you looking like a fool, that is entirely your own responsibility. I certainly cannot be held responsible for the material you cut and paste. Its not like I am threatening to give you a wedgie if you don't make a racist comment nor am I holding your arm behind your back telling you to fly into a mad expletive filled rage.

No Brian, if you look like a fool you have only yourself to blame. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 7, 2009 8:42 PM:

" Brian, when I said that you should change monikers, I was simply putting decency over politics and thinking of your damaged ego.

As a Democrat, however, I very much encourage you to continue posting on these blogs as often as you possibly can. No one has done more damage to the conservative cause on these blogs than you have.

Please, keep up the good work! "

Brian wrote on Feb 7, 2009 7:33 PM:

" michaelsavage.com gets all the credit for providing this article. "

Brian wrote on Feb 7, 2009 7:32 PM:

" http://www.nypost.com/seven/02062009/postopinion/editorials/come_on__o__bring_bacon___not_pork__153842.htm

Obama outed as porker in chief

Opinion polls show support for the stimulus bill is tanking because the American people know a duck when they see it - and this sucker is quacking so loud right now, it might bring down a US Airways flight. "

Brian wrote on Feb 7, 2009 6:51 PM:

" Hey Leonard,

MICHAEL SAVAGE SAID WE SHOULD IMPEACH MR B.O.

I'm getting a bumper sticker made.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
:~ "

Brian wrote on Feb 7, 2009 6:48 PM:

" Leonard, You have absolutely no proof I posted anything from a Nazi website. And I will post whatever I want from right wing sites. In fact, I'll make sure I indicate they are right wing just to get your goat. It's your problem that you don't like what conservatives have to say. I've accumulated quite a bit of whopper comments you have made about your hatred for anything conservative for the next Prager Group meeting. They'll get a laugh. "

Brian wrote on Feb 7, 2009 6:42 PM:

" Leonard wrote:

" Basically Brian, you are like the little kid in fifth grade who soils his pants in front of the whole class. His only choice is to transfer to another school where no one knows him.

-Yeah, and the bully that you are would have made sure I would have been made the ultimate spectacle in front of our peers. I wasn't born yesterday Leonard.
I can think of quite a few bullies from School in Lodi that just loved to intimidate me. Well, I always managed to make friends who didn't like someone twice my size picking on me. I'm not that scrawny little kid anymore. I can hold my own now. So you can huff and puff about me all you want. As long as my wife and friends who read my bloggs don't have a problem with what I write I don't care what your cronies have to say about me. You're wasting your time Mr. You think Lodisafeway is going to change because YOU say he should too.
Stop being such a child and face up to the fact that there are those that differ with you. "

Brian wrote on Feb 7, 2009 6:30 PM:

" Leonard wrote: In your case, I would suggest ditching the Brian moniker along with the racist kr@p and the Nazi dogma, waiting a month or two, and coming back with a fresh moniker.

-Yeah you've made sure that what I write that you disagree with is interpretted as such so as to make me look like a kook. I should say that all the blogging I do it is only the LNS where I have this reaction to what I write or post. It's interesting that the only ones who have issues with what I post are people that kiss your butt on a daily basis. I guess they remember you as a bully when they ran into you in Lodi. You don't intimidate me. I'll post and you can bark about what I post until the cows come home. Have at it.
You're just not open minded enough to understand what I post. Your reactions to my posts are indicative of a whining liberal that refuses to open his mind.
I laugh everytime you make a childish remark about mine and other's posts you don't agree with. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 7, 2009 5:15 PM:

" Basically Brian, you are like the little kid in fifth grade who soils his pants in front of the whole class. His only choice is to transfer to another school where no one knows him.

In your case, I would suggest ditching the Brian moniker along with the racist kr@p and the Nazi dogma, waiting a month or two, and coming back with a fresh moniker.

If you need advise on this, perhaps you could get in touch with Lodisafeway. He's done it a couple of times. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 7, 2009 5:06 PM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 7, 2009 1:19 PM:
" Leonard, Please tell us why, based on what I have read, with facts to back it up, my understanding of Radical Islam holds no credibility with you?


I see no "understanding". All I see is a bunch of cut and paste nonsense from racist and far right web sites. Your days as a serious poster on these blogs are over, you've dug yourself a hole so deep that you can never climb out of it.

Heck, even the conservative posters on these blogs have, for the most part, repudiated you. I talk to alot of these guys via email and they think you are an embarrassment to their cause. "

Brian wrote on Feb 7, 2009 1:43 PM:

" We'll have to excuse Leonard for painting this picture that I didn't know that
Chamberlain was the Prime Minister of Britain. It tends to be his nature to discredit people he disagrees with to prop himself up. "

Brian wrote on Feb 7, 2009 1:19 PM:

" Leonard, Please tell us why, based on what I have read, with facts to back it up, my understanding of Radical Islam holds no credibility with you?

I can probably guess. It's this picture you've painted of me that my views cannot possibly be taken seriously because you think some of my views are conservative in nature. That being said, we know how much conservatives get under you skin. Please don't remind us how much you lean to the left and echo what the left has to say even if it is wrong. That's the difference between you and me. I'll admit when I'm wrong. "

Brian wrote on Feb 7, 2009 1:02 PM:

" Leonard wrote

" Brian, the point is that, coming from you these items are just talking points. It is entirely possible that many conservatives have unique and important viewpoints on these issues but, by steadfastly refusing to think for your self, you have forfeited your right to be taken seriously on these blogs. "

-The word of Leonard again. How many consistently believe everything he has to say just re-enforces the fact that their are those who will follow a person over the cliff if he or she can convince them there is water at the bottom even though the picture shows only rocks.

Hmmm, please explain to us how my understanding of the reality of Radical Islam is just a talking point?And how is my view of this issue not unique? I come to the conclusion that it is of your opinion that one cannot possibly
have a unique POV if they arrive at their POV from what other people have to say about a given issue. That being said, then your POV's Should not be taken seriously either. Not all of us have a crysatl balls like you, Leonard. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 6, 2009 8:46 AM:

" Poor Brian. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 6, 2009 8:19 AM:

" Brian, the point is that, coming from you these items are just talking points. It is entirely possible that many conservatives have unique and important viewpoints on these issues but, by steadfastly refusing to think for your self, you have forfeited your right to be taken seriously on these blogs. "

Brian wrote on Feb 6, 2009 7:33 AM:

" voter, I'm not surprised that you would feel the facts about Radical Islam are just "talking points". Perhaps you should write a letter to Spencer, Gaffney, and Gabriel explaining why you feel Radical Islam is just a figment of their imagination. Better yet, why not
leaflet the Middle East too.

What other facts and realities do you consider talking points? "

Leonard wrote on Feb 6, 2009 7:32 AM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 6, 2009 7:28 AM:

THE WORD OF LEONARD


No, just the truth, although that word probably holds no meaning for you. "

Brian wrote on Feb 6, 2009 7:28 AM:

" Leonard wrote:
And that, Ladies and Gentleman, was exactly the point I was trying to make. Here we are 24 hours later and he still doesn't have a clue who Chamberlain was.

-Chuckle!

THE WORD OF LEONARD "

Leonard wrote on Feb 5, 2009 10:36 PM:

" Chuckle....

And that, Ladies and Gentleman, was exactly the point I was trying to make. Here we are 24 hours later and he still doesn't have a clue who Chamberlain was.

Hell, he can't even spell the man's name!

The great Dorothy Parker was once asked to use the word "horticulture" in a sentence and she responded as follows You can lead a whore to culture but you can't make her drink.

I am afraid that facts and knowledge are simply wasted on an animal like our boy Brian.
"

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:47 PM:

" voter,This notion that our President did not appease Iran is just ridiculous. Take off your blinders.
He apologized in the interview. Do you want me to copy and paste the text of his interview and make you look like a fool? "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:44 PM:

" voter wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:37 PM:

" You're hilarious! This Obama/Chamberlin connection is nothing but a talking point you've been fed, and you accuse me of sticking with talking points! LOL! What have we been discussing here, Brian? Talking points you've blindly regurgitated, that's what. You didn't even know who Chamberlin was until I shamed you into googling him. Sad. Just sad. "

-How little you know about me. I knew who Chamberlin was. It is only because
you insisted I provide a legitimate source explaining who he was. I guess BBC is not legitimate enough for you. "

voter wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:44 PM:

" Brian, watch the interview so you can see what he said for yourself. This is just sad the way you allow your opinions to be fed to you by others. Think, Brian. Go watch the interview. This notion that our President appeased Iran is just ridiculous. "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:41 PM:

" http://www.onenewsnow.com/Security/Default.aspx?id=401788

A Middle East expert says President Barack Obama showed weakness during a recent interview on an Arab television network


President Obama granted his first formal television interview since being inaugurated to the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya cable network. The president reportedly granted the interview in order to reach out to Arab leaders who have been wary at best of U.S. efforts to broker a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians.

Brigitte Gabriel is founder and president of ACT! for America and the author of They Must Be Stopped: Why We Must Defeat Radical Islam and How We Can Do It. She says the president conveyed a message that America is weak.

"The mistake that President Obama [made] is not only going on Al-Arabiya, but talking in a way that made the United States look bad by saying to them that America needs to listen instead of always dictating," says Gabriel.

The former broadcast journalist says that sends the "wrong message" to terrorists -- an element she contends truly hates America "no matter how nice we try to appear." "

voter wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:37 PM:

" You're hilarious! This Obama/Chamberlin connection is nothing but a talking point you've been fed, and you accuse me of sticking with talking points! LOL! What have we been discussing here, Brian? Talking points you've blindly regurgitated, that's what. You didn't even know who Chamberlin was until I shamed you into googling him. Sad. Just sad. "

voter wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:34 PM:

" Brian, did you even watch the Arabian TV interview? Obama condemned Iran's threats against Israel and it's support of terrorist organizations. How you can draw a parallel with Chamberlin is silly. "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:33 PM:

" voter, Do you even know who Brigitte Gabriel is. I'll give you a clue. She does not have a political agenda. She is very similar to Robert Spencer and Frank Gaffney. I suspect you don't know who they are either. "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:30 PM:

" voter wrote,Who fed you this tripe about Obama and Chamberlin?

The only conclusion I can come to is that you've never heard anyone talk about it because you restrict yourself to liberal talking points. "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:27 PM:

" voter wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:16 PM:

" Brian, good for you. Now that you know what Chamberlin actually did, what does this have to do with a man who has been President of the United States for less than two weeks?

-The very fact that he has been President for less than two weeks one would think he could restrain himself
and not do his first interview on Arab TV saying the ills of the Arab world
are the U.S.'s fault and then apologizes. "

voter wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:23 PM:

" Brian, where else would you get your ridiculous arguments, if not from some wingnut website or infotainer? You are not an expert on world history and you just had to use google to even find out what Chambelin really did. Who fed you this tripe about Obama and Chamberlin? "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:22 PM:

" How has Obama "appeased" Iran? "


Chuckle, You really must get out more.

Brigitte Gabriel did a whole piece on it. She's an expert on Radical Islam and the Middle East. I suppose you have an axe to grind with her too because she speaks the truth. "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:18 PM:

" Hmmm, a White Supremacist website talking about Chamberlin. Whatever,
voter.

And I haven't posted one article or Op-ed from Prager or Savage in quite a while. You can take your blinders off. "

voter wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:16 PM:

" Brian, good for you. Now that you know what Chamberlin actually did, what does this have to do with a man who has been President of the United States for less than two weeks? How has Obama "appeased" Iran? "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:14 PM:

" I went to BBC. Is that not good enough for you? Or do you have some facts that BBC lies about Chamberlin? "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:12 PM:

" Lodian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:54 PM:

" LOL @ Brian!

-Again, Lodian has nothing significant to contribute. "

voter wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:11 PM:

" Poor Brian. "

voter wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:10 PM:

" Brian, check the facts--and the facts are not something you will find on a white supremacist website, nor from The Wiener, nor from Prager. They make money telling you what you want to hear. . .hate. . .hate. . .hate . . . "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 9:10 PM:

" http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/chamberlain_arthur_neville.shtml

Like many in Britain who had lived through World War One, Chamberlain was determined to avert another war. His policy of appeasement towards Adolf Hitler culminated in the Munich Agreement in which Britain and France accepted that the Czech region of the Sudetenland should be ceded to Germany. Chamberlain left Munich believing that by appeasing Hitler he had assured 'peace for our time'. However, in March 1939 Hitler annexed the rest of the Czech lands of Bohemia and Moravia, with Slovakia becoming a puppet state of Germany. Five months later in September 1939 Hitler's forces invaded Poland. Chamberlain responded with a British declaration of war on Germany.

In May 1940, after the disastrous Norwegian campaign, Chamberlain resigned and Winston Churchill became prime minister. Chamberlain served in Churchill's cabinet as lord president of the council. He died a few weeks after he left office, on 9 November 1940.

voter,Obama is appeasing the Hitler of Iran
because he thinks it will buy us more
time and avert a crisis in the middle East when Iran gets a nuke.

voter, Give me an example of when appeasment worked on evil people? "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:59 PM:

" voter, if you don't think Chamberlin was a pacifist you need your head examined.

Oh, Shall we bow down to Chris Matthews because he is an expert on world affairs. He's a far left leaning hack that doesn't even know how to engage in civil conversation without rying to discredit someone. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:54 PM:

" LOL @ Brian! "

voter wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:52 PM:

" Watch the video, Brian. You don't know what you are talking about. "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:50 PM:

" voter, Chamberlin was a pacifist. So is Obama. There are parallels. What part of
"Many are comparing Obama to Chamberlin"
don't you understand? Oh, I forgot, you have your blinders on.

I can actually envison you saying it was OK to talk to Hitler as Chamberlin did. "

voter wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:47 PM:

" Brian, watch this video of Kevin James making a fool of himself with your Chamberlin argument.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0d8ENS__c "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:43 PM:

" Lodian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 11:51 PM:

" Brian: Is this what you call "civil conversation"?

"Brian wrote, "Lodian, GET A LIFE.
YOU D**KHEAD!!"


And there have been a lot worse cussing fits by you that that one. Sure, Brian, you are the leader in civility. LOL! "

-HMM, I'm sure I could find some posts from you that border on insane or just outright incompetence. But why bother. Ther are plenty of us out there who recognize your inability to really engage in conversation by making childish remarks on a daily basis. I think you'd have to go back quite a ways
to actually find any remarks I made that even come close to your juvenille rants. I'm sure Lodisafeway, or others who find your presence rather amusing, could confer with me.

Now, please be the predictable person that youy are and tell us you think RF, Girard,Dyan, and I are all the same
person and we're conspiring against you. "

voter wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:40 PM:

" Brian, go check Wikipedia or some other generic info source and find out what Chambelin did. When you get that figured out, then you tell us what this has to do with the president of the United States. "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:29 PM:

" voter, Is it just my imagination or do you put blinders on whenever you hear the truth. "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:24 PM:

" voter wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:53 PM:

" Brian, you don't know who Chamberlin was or what he did, do you? Please, give specifics on his mistakes. Tell us how you think this relates to Obama. "

-Chamberlin thought he could negotiate with Hitler and look what happened.

And now Obama thinks he can negotiate witht the Hitler of Iran. And you expect a good outcome? Perhaps YOU should refresh your memory on Chamberlin so you have a better understanding of the parallels between him and Obama. "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:17 PM:

" Lodian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 12:00 AM:

" Wow! Check out the site Brian plagiarized his last post (Feb 4th @ 7:33pm).

www.wvwnews.net

You are one sick puppy, Brian

-Evidently you did not even follow the link from the post right below this one or you would have noticed that the paragraph is part of the same article.

Or did you not want to read it because you think only Blacks were enslaved throughout history? "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:13 PM:

" Ivan Dixon wrote on Feb 5, 2009 2:01 PM:

History plays an important part in our world and those who forget it are doomed to repeat it.

That may not mean much to a privileged goy like yourself Herr Dokter, but when it was your ancestors whose children had their heads caved in under a guard's rifle but, you tend to take these things a little more seriously.

-I'm glad to see you understand the struggles of Jews. I do too. But you don't see Jews blaming society for all their problems. They are and have always been excellers in society no matter what. Anyway, let me remind you that Jews aren't a race.

I find it rather proposterous that you would imply that I would want Jews to forget the Holocaust. I find it interesting that you take sides with Obama's thinking that he can negotiate
with Ahmadinejad, the biggest holocaust denier, yet you have reservations aboout me because you think I am not sensitive about the holocaust. "

Brian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 8:00 PM:

" Ivan Dixon wrote on Feb 5, 2009 12:00 PM:

" " Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:31 PM:

It is perplexing then that the only race group today that refuses to let go of the past and indeed uses the past to justify its actions of today is the Black race. "

Mr. Dockter, have you ever heard on a nation called Israel?

-Hmm, Israel is not a race. Nor are Jews a race. Please explain how a Religious affiliation or a country is a race? "

sam wrote on Feb 5, 2009 5:06 PM:

" Billy Rubin wrote on Feb 5, 2009 12:42 PM..."OK, a show of hands - who is shocked?

Anyone?"


hehehe... thanks for the chuckle "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Feb 5, 2009 2:01 PM:

" As Jews, our motto for 60 years has been to "Never Forget".

Apparently, however, Herr Dokter would have us simply forget that the Holocaust ever happened, stop whining and move on down the road.

History plays an important part in our world and those who forget it are doomed to repeat it.

That may not mean much to a privileged goy like yourself Herr Dokter, but when it was your ancestors whose children had their heads caved in under a guard's rifle but, you tend to take these things a little more seriously. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Feb 5, 2009 12:42 PM:

" LOL @ Lodian's find.

OK, a show of hands - who is shocked?

Anyone?

Anyone at all?

Nobody...? "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Feb 5, 2009 12:00 PM:

" " Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:31 PM:

It is perplexing then that the only race group today that refuses to let go of the past and indeed uses the past to justify its actions of today is the Black race. "

Mr. Dockter, have you ever heard on a nation called Israel? "

Lodian wrote on Feb 5, 2009 12:00 AM:

" Wow! Check out the site Brian plagiarized his last post (Feb 4th @ 7:33pm).

www.wvwnews.net

You are one sick puppy, Brian. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 11:51 PM:

" Brian: Is this what you call "civil conversation"?

"Brian wrote, "Lodian, GET A LIFE.
YOU D**KHEAD!!"


And there have been a lot worse cussing fits by you that that one. Sure, Brian, you are the leader in civility. LOL! "

voter wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:54 PM:

" And here he goes with the racism again. "

voter wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:53 PM:

" Brian, you don't know who Chamberlin was or what he did, do you? Please, give specifics on his mistakes. Tell us how you think this relates to Obama. "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:33 PM:

" My only conclusion why this phenomenon exists is that Blacks have cottoned on to a gig that pays well. It is big business. It gets one a leg up so to speak. Why let it go? Milk it for all it's worth. They understand the other phenomenon of White Guilt, an affliction that affects mainly White liberals headquartered in Hollywood who need a pet sympathy project to assuage their imagined guilt, a church confessional if you like, and also used to alleviate their natural (or imagined) anxieties. These are the same Hollywood liberals that buy Toyota Prius' to show everyone how they care about the environment while arriving at carbon-polluting glittering functions in gas-guzzling limousines. You know the kind. "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:31 PM:

" http://iluvsa.blogspot.com/2008/12/white-slavery-what-scots-already-know.html

History is littered with examples of races, nations and cultures conquering - and being conquered. Whites, Arabs, Indians, Chinese, every nation, race and creed on earth has at some point in its past suffered injustice.

It is perplexing then that the only race group today that refuses to let go of the past and indeed uses the past to justify its actions of today is the Black race. I still await with bated breath for someone to explain this to me. It is also the only race that continuously demands 'concessions', 'reparations' and 'apologies', blaming people today (and those yet to be born) for the actions of ancestors. Bizarre. "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:22 PM:

" Liberals do tend to create the very conditions they complain about. And they have a sleezy way of blaming it on conservatives. I guess they have to have something to do to get their jollies however counter-productive it may be.
we'll have to see how far Leonard runs with his fundamental misunderstanding of race evolution by accusing me of being a racist because he has this awful burden called White guilt. And he wonders why I don't have the same affliction. "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:10 PM:

" I guess I put up with the abuse to demonstrate how far liberals will go to not engage in a civil conversation.

Obama has sold out America. As with Neville Chamberlin appeasing Hitler so shall we see B.O. appeasing the Hitler of Iran. "

Lodian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 10:09 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:41 AM:

" Come on Brian, explain to us again why you believe other races are inferior."

Careful, Brian is about to start cussing you out. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:44 AM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 6:21 AM:

Neville Chamberlin II


Quick Brian!

Without doing a google search, can you actually tell me who Neville Chamberlin was?

.....yeah, I didn't think so.

:) "

Leonard wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:41 AM:

" Come on Brian, explain to us again why you believe other races are inferior.

Please, do go ahead. Your posts on the subject are the best warnings against the Praegerite Cult I could imagine. "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 7:02 AM:

" I suspect B.O. will make "Neville Chamberlin's Playbook" mandatory reading material for all his White House staff. "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 6:59 AM:

" http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0209/18390.html

Former Vice President Dick Cheney warned that there is a high probability that terrorists will attempt a catastrophic nuclear or biological attack in coming years, and said he fears the Obama administrations policies will make it more likely the attempt will succeed.

In an interview Tuesday with Politico, Cheney unyieldingly defended the Bush administrations support for the Guantanamo Bay prison and coercive interrogation of terrorism suspects.

And he asserted that President Obama will either backtrack on his stated intentions to end those policies or put the country at risk in ways more severe than most Americansand, he charged, many members of Obamas own teamunderstand. "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 6:31 AM:

" Obama's fundamental misunderstanding of Radical Islam is very apparent. He should set aside some time to discuss Radical islm with experts like Robert Spencer, Frank Gaffney and Brigitte Gabriel. I suspect he won't. He's too busy looking through the LL Bean catalog
for casual clothing since he's now loosened up the dress code in the White House. "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 6:21 AM:

" Neville Chamberlin II "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 6:20 AM:

" http://www.onenewsnow.com/Security/Default.aspx?id=401788

A Middle East expert says President Barack Obama show ed weakness during a recent interview on an Arab television network




President Obama granted his first formal television interview since being inaugurated to the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya cable network. The president reportedly granted the interview in order to reach out to Arab leaders who have been wary at best of U.S. efforts to broker a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians.

Brigitte Gabriel is founder and president of ACT! for America and the author of They Must Be Stopped: Why We Must Defeat Radical Islam and How We Can Do It. She says the president conveyed a message that America is weak.

"The mistake that President Obama [made] is not only going on Al-Arabiya, but talking in a way that made the United States look bad by saying to them that America needs to listen instead of always dictating," says Gabriel.

The former broadcast journalist says that sends the "wrong message" to terrorists -- an element she contends truly hates America "no matter how nice we try to appear." "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 6:15 AM:

" For thousands of years the Middle East has been an area of unrest. Wait! Obama attributes it to U.S. policies. How can this be? "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 6:04 AM:

" It's everywhere about Obama apologizing.
Where have you been Frank? We'll excuse you this time. But do try to keep yourself updated so you don't look like a fool. "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 6:02 AM:

" http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/viewpoints/stories/DN-starparker_03edi.State.Edition1.29740a7.html

The president took the opportunity on Arab television's Al Arabiya to confirm the long-held Arab view that the real problem is America. President Obama then apologized on our behalf.

"... America was not born as a colonial power," he told the Arab viewing audience implying we are now. And he regretfully confessed, "We sometimes make mistakes. We are not perfect." "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 5:57 AM:

" Frank, Obviously Mr. Kinderman understands there has to be fundamental
change in the mindset of the Iranian regime before we can make any headway with them. And obviously you don't. "

Brian wrote on Feb 4, 2009 5:53 AM:

" Leonard, Are we going to trapse down this road again about your lack of ability to understand that evolution is not just physical change? Take your White guilt elsewhere. I never thought I would see you kissing up to the Hitler of Iran. But it's to be expected now that your man B.O. is doing it. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 3, 2009 9:19 PM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 3, 2009 6:50 PM:

-Coming from a man who believes we should not remove the Hitler of Iran from office if the chance materialized


Hmmm... why don't you tell us again how some races are superior to others? Your far right racist ideology saps a little bit of the force from your reference to Hitler. "

Frank wrote on Feb 3, 2009 7:50 PM:

" Mr. Kinderman, it is obvious you do not like our president. Please enlighten us as to how you personally would handle Ahmadinejad if you were president.

Wait, that would mean you would actually have to get off you dead a$$ and actually do something besides whine and condemn. Is that possible? "

Frank wrote on Feb 3, 2009 7:46 PM:

" Brian said: President Obama " got himself off to a really good start by saying, in so many words, it is the U.S.'s fault for all of the ills in Iran and the Middle East. "

Please give me a valid source for this tidbit of information. "

Brian wrote on Feb 3, 2009 7:34 PM:

" Jeff and the others in the peanut gallery may not be so quick to defend
the Hitler of Iran if they had any idea
how the women are treated over there and how oppressive the regime is. "

Brian wrote on Feb 3, 2009 7:18 PM:

" Radical Islam's ideology of conquer by the sword did not start because the CIA removed Iran's Prime Minister.

What a lame ass excuse for Jeff to say to make Radical Islam feel less responsible for their actions. "

Brian wrote on Feb 3, 2009 7:14 PM:

" Leonard, I thought you were of sound mind enough to understand that negotiating and apologizing to the Hitler of Iran will not get us anywhere with him. He interprets it as weakness.
B.O.'s got himself off to a really good start by saying, in so many words, it is the U.S.'s fault for all of the ills in Iran and the Middle East. "

Brian wrote on Feb 3, 2009 7:04 PM:

" Jeff, Please don't remind us how you believe the current consensus in liberal circles that if you appease Radical Islam enough you won't get your head chopped off. You keep on dreaming that if Obama has tea and crumpets with
Ahmadinejad he'll change his mind about believing what the Koran dictates to him that all non-believers will be converted or made into second class citizens or killed. "

Brian wrote on Feb 3, 2009 6:55 PM:

" Poor Billy rubin suffers from Conservative Derangement Syndrome.
Anytime he hears or reads something that makes since the top of his head blows off.

I'll pray for you Billy that your interpretation of Conservatism as being the DARK SIDE may change and you will become the happy person you always wanted to be. Shedding one's liberalisms
can be quite euphoric. "

Brian wrote on Feb 3, 2009 6:50 PM:

" Billy Wrote:

Brian, you'll have an easier time in life if you will just come to grips with the fact that you're a crazy person.

-Coming from a man who believes we should not remove the Hitler of Iran from office if the chance materialized.

I'm not surprised to see the usual liberals here with their twisted logic.
Of course they all agree with Obama that all the hatred radical Islam has for the non-Muslim world is as a result of Republican Presidents and not centuries of belief in what the Koran
says to do to the non-believer. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 3, 2009 2:20 PM:

" Billy Rubin Derangement Syndrome

BRDS??? "

Billy Rubin wrote on Feb 3, 2009 12:51 PM:

" Poor Brian suffers from Billy Rubin Derangement Sysndrome. He sees my name and the top of his head blows off.

Brian, you'll have an easier time in life if you will just come to grips with the fact that you're a crazy person. "

wtf wrote on Feb 3, 2009 11:21 AM:

" Good article....but abstract ;)

Something is wrong somewhere and it affects every one of us. It hurts the ones with a conscience. It doesnt affect the ones without a conscience. I dont know how long you can go on being bamboozled by, there it is again. But me? I know when to say when and that was a long time ago. I dont understand the road you want to follow so I got a road of my own and I suspect there will be enough of us somewhere, somehow to step away from all the insane, lying and thieving and killing and torturing and tormenting of others and ourselves all day long day in and day out...

http://smokingmirrors.blogspot.com/2009/02/walking-away-from-smorgasbord-table.html "

wtf wrote on Feb 3, 2009 10:39 AM:

" Here's some music for you jerome, girdard, Ls, whatever your name is.... LOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-BZfFakpzc "

wtf wrote on Feb 3, 2009 10:14 AM:

" Billy, Leonard and Jeff....great posts! Totally agree with you; especially your post, Jeff, on people informing themselves of the facts and using logic. Excellent!

My thought when I saw gir...er, Jerome's letter was that the LNS must be hard up for Letters to the Editor, or else, "jerome" works for them. LOL! "

Leonard wrote on Feb 3, 2009 7:43 AM:

" J. Kinderman wrote: But I agree with Ahmadinejad we do owe the Iranian people an apology. We should beg for their forgiveness for continuing to permit someone like their illustrious president to continue to lead their nation

Hmmm... if such an apology is going to be issued we will have to bring Ronald Reagan back from the grave so that he can join George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush in issuing it.

It seems a little early to try to shove responsibility for 30 years of Islamic rule onto Obama. "

Jeff wrote on Feb 3, 2009 7:40 AM:

" Brian, there is no twisting of words. There is reading. Oh, and applying logic, at which we all know you're not very good. The American tradition of removing state leaders "we" do not agree with or are a "threat" to "American interests" is long and infamous. It includes the removal of Iran's elected Prime Minister in 1953 by the CIA, for which Ahmadinejad, I believe, is asking an apology. Jerome's, and Brian's, strategy for dealing with leaders like him reflects that of our now former Adminstration's facist ideaology. A strategy that must be ended.
Lastly, while an apology might be warranted for the 1953 overthrow that led to an oppressive, autocratic regime, an apology is definitely needed for the 1979 hostage takeover of the US Embassy. Quid pro quo. "

Leonard wrote on Feb 3, 2009 7:40 AM:

" Brian wrote on Feb 3, 2009 7:19 AM:

You think Kinderman is foolish to want to have Ahmadinejad removed from office, whether it be by force or possibly assassinate him?


I just think J. Kinderman is foolish in general. He snivels alot too.

Speaking of sniveling, I wonder when Girardia74/LodiSafeway will show up on this blog. It seems right up his alley. "

Brian wrote on Feb 3, 2009 7:37 AM:

" Billy wrote:
And I wonder what atrocities Gerome advocates regarding any other (even conservative American) holocaust deniers? Must the US government step in with military action against them, too?

-I doubt if Jerome believes all holocaust deniers are evil. What are YOU advocating Billy? "

Brian wrote on Feb 3, 2009 7:19 AM:

" Billy, Let me get this straight. You think Kinderman is foolish to want to have Ahmadinejad removed from office, whether it be by force or possibly assassinate him? I'm getting the impression you think it's a better place to live there in Iran than here.
Get a ticket and get the hell out of here if you dislike the U.S. so much. "

Brian wrote on Feb 3, 2009 7:06 AM:

" I wouldn't expect any less from Billy Rubin. His ability to twist the most reasonable letter into what he construes it to be reveals how sick Mr. Rubin is in the head. "

Billy Rubin wrote on Feb 3, 2009 6:36 AM:

" People like Kinderman who advocate the US becoming the type of rogue nation he purports to dislike should be watched.

"...continuing to permit someone like their illustrious president to continue to lead their nation."?

"...permit..."? Gerome's option is what? Remove him? What would that look like? Would that be a sneak-strike or just begin large-scale bombing 'til we get him? Is that Kinderman's dream of the ideal future United States? Simply assassinate everyone he doesn't like?

And I wonder what atrocities Gerome advocates regarding any other (even conservative American) holocaust deniers? Must the US government step in with military action against them, too?

Why does power-crazed Kinderman lust for the United States to degrade into a wild fascist police state when so many American men and women have in the past died on foreign soil defeating that same type of fanatical criminal mindset? "

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