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On global warming and same-sex marriage
Monday, January 5, 2009 6:16 AM PST
In regards to Ron Portal's letter on Dec. 27, 2008, I believe Mr. Portal has been drinking the right-wing Kool-Aid.
Human beings are responsible for changing the climate of the earth. A lot of CO2 is put into the atmosphere by our automobiles and industry. A large majority of our leading climate scientists believe the earth's climate is warming. A basic theorem of physics says for every action there is a reaction. Manmade CO2 generation is an action and the reaction is climate change.
Yes, there are natural climate cycles, but recent studies show an alarming warming trend. Al Gore is not in "la la land," but just wants people to start thinking of the consequences if something is not done to decrease CO2 emissions. It is better to error on the side of caution then to do nothing and have a global catastrophe on our hands. Global warming is not a new religion, but a real possibility.
I am a environmentalist and not an eco-terrorist, and I will bet Mr. Portal a cup of coffee that Greenland will not have an ice sheet in 10 years. I am a zoologist and I do understand how to analyze the data of climate scientists. What are Mr. Portal's credentials? Listening to Rush Limbaugh and believing his right-wing propaganda.
Now, in regards to Kether Dooley's letter of Dec. 6, 2008, I am not a Constitutional law expert; my only expertise is biology. I do not agree that our laws are inherently intertwined with religious philosophy. Why does marriage have to be defined by religious philosophy? You and your partner can go to a justice of the peace and be legally married. Marriage does not have to be a covenant between any God, a man and a woman. If same-sex couples want to get married in a church, there should be no problem if the church agrees to this union.
I believe Mr. Dooley still believes that marriage should not be allowed between same-sex couples because of his religious philosophy, and not based on our laws.
Frank Caruso
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Lodian wrote on Jan 14, 2009 1:37 AM:
Yes, and I think the message is that you have some serious issues you need to deal with at some point. "
Gator wrote on Jan 13, 2009 11:30 AM:
will not use prophylactics and that is a death sentence across the board Protected sex
In the gay community has greatly reduced incidence of AidsNeedle sharing is a major
Problem and when a Junkie needs a fix a clean needle is the last thing on their mind "
Leonard wrote on Jan 13, 2009 10:31 AM:
" The fact is Leonard, nobody knows the sexuality of aids victims.
So, you are claiming that the hundreds of thousands if not millions of women and children in Africa who have died of HIV got it from gay sex?
Man, some people will say anything to support their own intolerance and personal prejudices.
:( "
Cogito wrote on Jan 13, 2009 8:50 AM:
Audi 5000 wrote on Jan 13, 2009 8:43 AM:
sam wrote on Jan 12, 2009 6:49 PM:
I listened to his last speech today. He messed up on a few things, but not on his AIDS support. Thank you
"W" for your AIDS support. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 12, 2009 6:30 PM:
AIDS has killed a few million advocates for Veganism and tree hugging. Since these people (AIDS victims) don't "breed" like the rest of us, we have fewer alarmists running around yelling that the sky is falling.
The fact is that the vast majority of AIDS victims planet wide have been heterosexuals.
I don't suppose that the facts much matter to you, do they? "
Billy Rubin wrote on Jan 12, 2009 6:25 PM:
edumacation wrote on Jan 12, 2009 5:07 PM:
It seems that some predictions are partly correct. AIDS has killed a few million advocates for Veganism and tree hugging. Since these people (AIDS victims) don't "breed" like the rest of us, we have fewer alarmists running around yelling that the sky is falling.
There is a message in there somewhere? "
Janice M. Bonser wrote on Jan 12, 2009 12:34 PM:
4AStrongLodi wrote on Jan 12, 2009 10:16 AM:
Unfortuntately, the ignorant will continue to believe what the "talking heads" tell them. "
Gator wrote on Jan 12, 2009 8:38 AM:
before the onset of an Ice age. The temperature has dropped worldwide
over the Last 8 years ! Yesterday American Scientist believe the Greenland
ice melt is only temporary (yesterday Yahoo news) That we now refer to
climate Change rather than global warming. Glaciers actually grew in Alaska for the first time in 250 years. I could go on all day but why bother !
I said before I believe there is change going on but I dont buy into algores
hype, He did it for one reason to get back into the spotlight and glean every
dime and every second of notoriety he could, all the while spewing his
carbon foot print world wide. I can counter every thing you say and you
can do the same so there it is Pilgrim, Say how much oil will be left in 50
Years, I say very little if any. which will make a major difference say in 10
Years "
Brian wrote on Jan 12, 2009 7:14 AM:
Brian wrote on Jan 12, 2009 7:12 AM:
Brian wrote on Jan 12, 2009 7:02 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 11, 2009 10:37 PM:
The American Meteorological association all must be Bushs lackeys
as they Said last winter was the coldest in 30 years.
From the American Meteorological Associations statement on climate change:
(T)here is adequate evidence from observations and interpretations of climate simulations to conclude that the atmosphere, ocean, and land surface are warming; that humans have significantly contributed to this change; and that further climate change will continue to have important impacts on human societies, on economies, on ecosystems, and on wildlife through the 21st century and beyond. "
nextel wrote on Jan 11, 2009 8:15 PM:
Here is a bio for James Hanson who represents NASA on this issue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hanson "
voter wrote on Jan 11, 2009 7:50 PM:
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/earth_temp.html "
nextel wrote on Jan 11, 2009 7:49 PM:
"Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep!" Who me?? Hell, I'm thinking about whats for lunch tomorrow and how to get my 401k back on track. "
Gator wrote on Jan 11, 2009 7:33 PM:
the biggest hoax of this millennium then Ive been brainwashed buy Big
OilHorse S*** !!! Check it out. the National Weather Service, NOOA.
NASA The American Meteorological association all must be Bushs lackeys
as they Said last winter was the coldest in 30 years. This winter is one of
the coldest ever in Alaska, Anchorage has recorded -50 belowThe last
eight years have seen a decrease in temperature world wide its all there..
one more time 4/28/75 some of the same Warming experts were calling
for a new ice age, make up the mind Hot or Cold A warming trend
precedes an Ice Age Remember Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart
It will creep!!! "
nextel wrote on Jan 11, 2009 6:58 PM:
nextel wrote on Jan 11, 2009 6:54 PM:
nextel wrote on Jan 11, 2009 6:47 PM:
nextel wrote on Jan 11, 2009 6:35 PM:
Gator wrote on Jan 11, 2009 6:31 PM:
and his Fathers. One more reason he doesnt practice what he preaches, you
know dont bite the hand that feeds you!!! So your going to tell me these
People are on the take for big oil, Robert C. Balling Jr., Professor of Climatology, Arizona State University. Robert Carter, Researcher at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, Australia William Cotton, Professor in the Department of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University
Anthony Lupo, Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Missouri-Columbia
Tad Murty, Adjunct Professor of Earth Sciences and Civil Engineering, University of Ottawa. As an old professor once said to me, its out there
you might have to dig for it but I wont lead you by the hand!!! "
voter wrote on Jan 11, 2009 5:47 PM:
nextel wrote on Jan 11, 2009 5:34 PM:
Gator wrote on Jan 11, 2009 5:13 PM:
voter wrote on Jan 11, 2009 4:31 PM:
Gator wrote on Jan 11, 2009 4:04 PM:
http://icecap.us/index.php http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ "
voter wrote on Jan 11, 2009 2:40 PM:
Gator wrote on Jan 11, 2009 1:58 PM:
Is a fraud and phony doesnt mean I chose to listen to their Drivel!! Point
Blank they are just two blowhards taking up space Now then!!
Joseph DAleo, Executive Director, Certified Consultant Meteorologist
Robert C. Balling Jr., Professor of Climatology, Arizona State University
Sallie Baliunas, Astrophysicist
Robert Carter, Researcher at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, Australia
William Cotton, Professor in the Department of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University
David Legates, Associate Professor in Climatology, University of Delaware
American Meteorological Society NASA NOOA Nooa Weather
So there you have a partial list of my resources Aside form shooting
ground Squirrels Weather has been a fascination and Hobby for the
past twenty years I absolutely love photographing lightning storms
the nastier the better !! And Im a some time, part time Storm Chaser
any more comments Voter??? "
Lodian wrote on Jan 11, 2009 1:56 PM:
" Gator, again, it's fine if you don't like Al Gore. Your dislike of Al Gore or any wrongdoing by Al Gore does not change scientific fact. "
voter: Well said. "
voter wrote on Jan 11, 2009 12:15 PM:
Gator wrote on Jan 11, 2009 11:17 AM:
doing the exact opposite??? To me that destroys his argument. Scientific
fact!! Fact the last 8 years the temperature on earth has dropped.. Fact
last winter was the coldest in 30 years, this winter is on track to pass
that. April 28 1975 some of these same scientist were forecasting a
coming Ice Age. Fact the earth warms before the onset of an ice age.
algore has been challenged to an open debate and continues to not respond,
You would think if he is so bloody sure of himself he would jump at the
chance after all didnt he invent the internet!! I said before things are
changing but Mother Earth has a way of taking care of her self, just ask
the Dinosaurs and if she decides to clean house and start over, well, see ya!! "
voter wrote on Jan 11, 2009 9:23 AM:
Gator wrote on Jan 11, 2009 9:08 AM:
prints, then do exactly what you tell people is causing the problem in the
first place!! "
voter wrote on Jan 11, 2009 8:08 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 11, 2009 7:18 AM:
" Come on Leonard you can do better than that !!!
???? "
Lodian wrote on Jan 11, 2009 1:22 AM:
Gator wrote on Jan 10, 2009 8:44 PM:
nextel wrote on Jan 10, 2009 7:51 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 10, 2009 6:46 PM:
Besides, he's only 1 of tens of thousands of scientists who believe like him.
If you are referring to the Oregon petition, you must surely know that many of the "signatures" on the petition were found to belong to non existent people, that a significant number of the actual signators have filed suit against Seitz for fraudulently obtaining their signatures and that the VAST majority of the remaining signators work in fields completely unrelated to climate studies such as proctology and plastic surgery. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 10, 2009 6:42 PM:
" Leonard, I don't know him personally. But neither do you and you are making assumptions about his character.
Given your earlier assault on research scientists as a whole (I believe you accused them en mass of intellectual prostitution) I find your current concern about the character of a scientist who perfectly fits that description.... amusing. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 10, 2009 6:36 PM:
" Leonard, that's why I've said before that research science is the worlds second oldest profession, and it is no different than the first. "
Gator wrote on Jan 10, 2009 3:59 PM:
Simple, you cant tell people to do one thing and you go against the grain and do the polar opposite [ie] Corporate Aircraft and drive SUVs Thats not
to ethical, Also if you are called to debate by world class Scientist then do
It !! If you truly believe in your cause then it should be a walk in the park!
as I have said before you cant condemn the Big 3 for flying their own jets
and not do so for algore !! "
Cogito wrote on Jan 10, 2009 12:33 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 10, 2009 12:30 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 10, 2009 8:39 AM:
I don't follow your argument. "
Gator wrote on Jan 10, 2009 8:23 AM:
green is the color of mold and money. When large sums of money are
Involved you have more than an even chance of a con. There is no
doubt that change is going on but mans part in this is very debatable!
speaking of debate the high priest of climate change refuses to debate
world renowned scientist on the issue. He goes on using the Gulfstream II
@ 4500.00 an hour and driving Big SUVs. If its wrong for the heads
of Ford and GM to use corporate Jets why is it ok for algore??? It
reminds one of the Indian expression white man speak with forked
tongue. Here in Southwest Idaho (High Desert) the last 2 Decembers have
Been the coldest in 10 years, snowed on Christmas day both 07/08.
It comes down to I cant stand a fraud, if you talk the talk, then you have
to walk the walk!! Park the SUV and hanger the Gulfstream II fly
Business coach and buy a Prius. Or shut the H*** up "
Leonard wrote on Jan 10, 2009 6:42 AM:
" Leonard, do you really think that a person would spend their entire career building a name, and a stellar enough reputation, to be installed as a professor at one of the worlds most renowned institutions of higher learning, only to sully ones reputation for $2500.00 a day as an expert witness?
According to the Boston Business Journal, the average salary for a full Professor at MIT is $140K.
Now, while that may be a decent salary, it is not so grand that its holder would have no use for an extra $2,500. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 10, 2009 6:30 AM:
Trust me, the man absolutely believes everything he associates with his well earned reputation.
Chuckle....
You know him personally? "
Cogito wrote on Jan 9, 2009 11:19 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 9, 2009 11:11 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 9, 2009 10:49 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 9, 2009 8:28 PM:
" By the way Leonard I picked up a Ruger Model 1, 204 Ruger, MV 4275 ft. per sec!!
Jumping Jesus on a Pogo Stick!
I hope you bought a spare barrel.
What are you planning on doing with the thing, launching bullets into space? "
Leonard wrote on Jan 9, 2009 8:22 PM:
" Far from the vast majority, there as many on the other side that say the opposite.
But it just ain't so....
In 2007, Harris Interactive polled 488 randomly selected members of either the American Meteorological Society or the American Geophysical Union for the Statistical Assessment Service at George Mason University. This survey found 97% agreed that world wide temperatures have increased during the past century; 74% agreed that "currently available scientific evidence substantiates the occurrence of human-induced greenhouse warming"; and 84% believe global climate change poses a moderate to very great danger. "
Gator wrote on Jan 9, 2009 7:45 PM:
Gator wrote on Jan 9, 2009 7:41 PM:
could that be because 2008 was the 15th coldest year in the last 30 and the
temperatures for the last 8 have been on a downward trend. You wont
get an argument from me that things are changing, but at the same time
I can smell a con job. Alaskan Glaciers Grow for First Time in 250 years, Oh what the H** "
nextel wrote on Jan 9, 2009 6:19 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 9, 2009 5:18 PM:
" Newsweek April 28th,1975 Scientist show alarm over coming ICE AGE !!
As for algore, if he would Park the Gulfstream II and fly business Class and
drive a Toyota Prius instead of his Black Suburban he might have a little
Credibility, very littleRemember its do as I say not as I do!! "
And here we see the fallacy of the ad hominem attack.
If Al Gore says that the world is round does that mean it is flat or does the fact that the vast majority of scientists agree that the world is round come into play at some point? "
Robb wrote on Jan 9, 2009 3:45 PM:
Gator wrote on Jan 9, 2009 2:30 PM:
Gator wrote on Jan 9, 2009 2:04 PM:
As for algore, if he would Park the Gulfstream II and fly business Class and
drive a Toyota Prius instead of his Black Suburban he might have a little
Credibility, very littleRemember its do as I say not as I do!! "
Gator wrote on Jan 9, 2009 1:44 PM:
ICE AGE Now days Global Warming is out, it is now referred to as climate changeAs for Algore if he would fly Business Class and leave
the Gulfstream II at home and Drive a Toyota Prius instead of his big
Black Suburban he might have a little credibility ,very little !! "
voter wrote on Jan 9, 2009 6:43 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2009 8:39 PM:
The only thin I was "asserting" was that science and faith are not mutually exclusive. I've heard many scientists actually see God in the sciences they study. So rather than disproving God, science, to many, proves God. "
I would think that a faith that could be proven wouldn't be worth too much.
The whole point of faith is that it can't be proven. "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 8, 2009 8:04 PM:
We call it intelligent design.
The only thin I was "asserting" was that science and faith are not mutually exclusive. I've heard many scientists actually see God in the sciences they study. So rather than disproving God, science, to many, proves God. "
Brian wrote on Jan 8, 2009 7:54 PM:
Next Ice Age delayed by rising CO2 levels "
voter wrote on Jan 8, 2009 7:52 PM:
voter wrote on Jan 8, 2009 7:40 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Jan 8, 2009 7:04 PM:
http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/atheist_philosopher_041210.html "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 8, 2009 6:57 PM:
Apparently a majority of scientific minds disagree with you.
http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/050811_scientists_god.html "
voter wrote on Jan 8, 2009 6:14 PM:
Scientific knowledge disproves MYTHOLOGY. Scientific knowledge is "inconvenient" when it points out that greedy business and industrial pursuits are harmful to the health of humans and the planet.
Let's face it, you're all for research science when it might save the life of a loved one suffering from some horrible disease, but when it points out the ridiculousness of some of your religious beliefs or the destructive aftermath of decisions made by politicians you voted for, it's tainted and bad. "
voter wrote on Jan 8, 2009 6:04 PM:
Your statement, "I don't question the integrity of all scientists, just ones who rely on research funding to feed their families," is ridiculous, as Leonard pointed out. All scientists are funded for their research--someone is paying them--were you expecting them to deliver mail during the day and then work on cutting edge projects at night after the dining room table was cleared? Furthermore, distrusting scientists who do research is like distrusting chefs who cook, surgeons who operate, or drivers who drive. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2009 1:17 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2009 1:16 PM:
He (Lindzen) claimed to be willing to accept bets on the future climate during an interview with Reason magazine. Reason printed Richard Lindzen says he's willing to take bets that global average temperatures in 20 years will in fact be lower than they are now. When Annan approached him and tried to accept the bet Lindzen seemed to carry a different tune. The following is from James Annans personal website:
Richard Lindzen will indeed accept a bet - but only if offered odds of 50:1 in his favour! He actually started out quoting 100:1 - but came down to 50:1 in what he described as a special favour to me. If the temperatures went down, I was to hand over $10,000, but in the event of a rise, I'd get a whopping $200. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2009 11:59 AM:
Many of these honorariums come from (SURPRISE) the oil industry.
For example, Dr Lindzen was paid $2,500 a day by OPEC to travel to Washington and testify before the Senate. He has also been a frequent lecturer at the Cooler Heads Coalition for which he has been well compensated by Exxon. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 8, 2009 11:54 AM:
" By the way Voter, you left out actors and politicians. I don't question the integrity of all scientists, just ones who rely on research funding to feed their families. I also understand it's human nature to be biased. The reason I picked out the MIT professor is because he isn't a research scientist
I think one of the fundamental problems here is that you simply don't understand the way science is conducted.
From Dr. Lindzen's website at MIT:
Professor Lindzen is a dynamical meteorologist with interests in the broad topics of climate, planetary waves, monsoon meteorology, planetary atmospheres, and hydrodynamic instability. His research involves studies of the role of the tropics in mid-latitude weather and global heat transport, the moisture budget and its role in global change, the origins of ice ages, seasonal effects in atmospheric transport, stratospheric waves, and the observational determination of climate sensitivity "
Cogito wrote on Jan 8, 2009 8:32 AM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 8, 2009 8:06 AM:
voter wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:22 PM:
voter wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:11 PM:
I'd hardly say that someone who's speeches are underwritten by OPEC can be paraded about as untainted.
Try again. "
Cogito wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:09 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:04 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 7, 2009 8:45 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 7, 2009 4:30 PM:
Janice M. Bonser wrote on Jan 7, 2009 2:09 PM:
I also agree in cheaper fuels, and self-sufficiency and that people should run biodiesel in their diesel engines. "
Cogito wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:47 AM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:44 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:26 AM:
It's all about the money, and the majority of it is being spent on the pro global warming side.
I'm sorry but this simply isn't true.
The amount of money that industry has spent trying to bury global warming dwarfs any expenditures that environmental groups may have made to expose it.
That isn't even considering the massive efforts if the Bush Administration over the last 8 years to suppress evidence related to the problem. "
Cogito wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:10 AM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:06 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 7, 2009 8:14 AM:
If only they had used those resources to actually address the problem, we might be in a better position today. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 7, 2009 8:13 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 7, 2009 8:12 AM:
" By the way Leonard, the "American Thinker" site points out the huge flaw in "peer review" quite well
Cog, I scanned the article and I think you misunderstood. I was referring to peer review of published findings, not grant applications. "
WCPatty wrote on Jan 7, 2009 8:00 AM:
I personally ignore the politics because neither side can prove their position with 100% certainty. I see no reason not to support anything that benefits and protects the environment and our natural resources. "
Cogito wrote on Jan 7, 2009 7:55 AM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 7, 2009 7:51 AM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 7, 2009 7:25 AM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 7, 2009 7:24 AM:
danielh wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:23 PM:
I agree in cheaper fuels, and self-sufficiency. That is why I agree that people should run biodiesel in their diesel engines. "
voter wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:17 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:48 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:46 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:36 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:32 PM:
I am off to bed gentlemen, I have an early flight in the morning. "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:29 PM:
Can't be as bad as "Legend" was. "
Brian wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:28 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:27 PM:
Of course, he's got a movie coming out soon. I think the last Cruise movie I liked was Top Gun.
From what I hear, this one is a real stinker. "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:25 PM:
" Rhodie, A White person would have been tarred and feathered had they the same type of questionable associations as Obama."
I don't know about White but I'd be fasinated to visit a parallel universe when he was a Republican and see how he was treated. "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:24 PM:
Of course, he's got a movie coming out soon. I think the last Cruise movie I liked was Top Gun. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:23 PM:
" Rhodie, A White person would have been tarred and feathered had they the same type of questionable associations as Obama.
Sigh...
Brian, your opinions about Barack Obama and the "inferiority" of his race are well known on these blogs.
I would think that you would want to bury all of that in the past and pretend that it never happened.
Apparently, I am wrong. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:22 PM:
" AND I see no reason to accord the opinions of Leonard anymore consideration than I would the opinions of a homeless man on the street.
Chuckle...
Coming from you, I am afraid that just isn't as insulting as you think it is. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:20 PM:
Last I heard anything from Cruise other than a movie preview was when he was flipping out over his new love on some talkshow. I don't see him on Fox news, Headline News or the evening news. Of course it could be when the fluff comes on I flip the channel.
He was on some morning show that my Mother in Law insisted on watching during a recent visit.
I almost barfed my bagel.
The things we do for family! "
Brian wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:19 PM:
Brian wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:14 PM:
I think we can all agree that even actors opinions are better than the average politicians opinion, right? ;-)
-Indeed, actors are under far less constraints than carreer politicians.
Once the lobbyist gets a hold of a politican by paying him off he'll say
just about anything to keep that money coming. "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:12 PM:
of affirmative action."
I would disagree. I think an Obama from any ethinicity or sex would have won, even if I hoped he wouldn't. Too many thing had occured to turn the swing voters against the current political mentalities. I think the Demos could be in for a few consecutive terms in office barring spectacular failure or incredible rising star. I don't think there is a current Rep. who can gain the people's confidence. It will take a newcomer (Palin-type) who the people identify as one of their own. "
Brian wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:09 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:07 PM:
I would think someone making a few million would be better connected to world events making the news than a person sleeping on the news. Now if you said the average business owner or hard working neighbor I would have to agree. Actors just know how to use the media better than the rest of us.
I think we can all agree that even actors opinions are better than the average politicians opinion, right? ;-) "
Brian wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:05 PM:
Believe me, if I could avoid hearing Cruise's views I would. I live in America, however, and the man is literally everywhere.
-At least Cruise doesn't try to shove his views down our throat like B.O. will with his holier than thou attitude.
And Leonard will be write their supporting the man who literally got the presidency because
of affirmative action. "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:03 PM:
Last I heard anything from Cruise other than a movie preview was when he was flipping out over his new love on some talkshow. I don't see him on Fox news, Headline News or the evening news. Of course it could be when the fluff comes on I flip the channel. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:03 PM:
My point is that we should not accord special significance to their opinions based on their ability (or lack thereof) to act.
People like Brian forward me some mindless rant from Chuck Norris with the excited expectation that I will take it as gospel because he is (gasp!!!) an actor.
I see no reason to accord the opinions of Chuck Norris or Ted Nugent or even Sean Penn anymore consideration than I would the opinions of a homeless man on the street. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:57 PM:
" "Most of the positions I've heard him espouse seemed rather conservative."
WAIT A MINUTE! You go on and on about how we shouldn't listen to Hollywood actors but then you go and revel that you listen enough to know who is liberal or conservative?
Believe me, if I could avoid hearing Cruise's views I would. I live in America, however, and the man is literally everywhere. "
Brian wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:54 PM:
WAIT A MINUTE! You go on and on about how we shouldn't listen to Hollywood actors but then you go and revel that you listen enough to know who is liberal or conservative?
I know. Leonard has many double standards. We're suppose to overlook them. Libertals are really good at pointing out other peoples faults yet they deny they have any faults and don't dare imply they do. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:52 PM:
" Leonard, regarding your last response to my last post, we will see in 10 years. But I was right about ozone depletion too. A man made scare, just like this.
Ummm... how do you figure on the ozone depletion issue?
The last time I saw anything on the issue, the ozone layer was continuing to decrease by a couple of percentage points per decade and the hole at the poles were still getting worse each year. "
Brian wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:50 PM:
When it comes to politics, people should try to think for themselves.
-You always imply that I don't think for myself. Since when is it not thinking for myself when I talk about what other people say? I form my own opinions based on a wide array of what other people say and what I observe in the news and the world.
You'll have to excuse most of the world for not being able to establish opinions like you.
Are you in one of those moods again where you just don't realize what you're writing down? This seems to happen with more frequency lately. "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:49 PM:
WAIT A MINUTE! You go on and on about how we shouldn't listen to Hollywood actors but then you go and revel that you listen enough to know who is liberal or conservative? "
Cogito wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:37 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:29 PM:
" Leonard wrote:
No Brian, I am saying that people should not look to Hollywood actors for political direction.
-This is quite a bold statement. Leonard never ceases to amaze me.
I'll make an even bolder statement.
When it comes to politics, people should try to think for themselves.
I realize that this poses serious difficulty for some people.
That said, I challenge you to go a whole week forming your own opinions instead of simply thinking what you are told to think.
I suspect you may be surprised by the results. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:24 PM:
So you don't think that there are Left wing-nuts who have their own spamcasters? I'd hate to see Tom Cruise's, Madonna's or even Gore's.
What makes you think Tom Cruise is a liberal?
Most of the positions I've heard him espouse seemed rather conservative. "
Brian wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:22 PM:
No Brian, I am saying that people should not look to Hollywood actors for political direction.
-This is quite a bold statement. Leonard never ceases to amaze me. He's that sure that Hollywood actors are not smart enough to understand politics. He does paint with a broad brush. "
Rhodie v2.0 wrote on Jan 6, 2009 5:58 PM:
sam wrote on Jan 6, 2009 5:35 PM:
Rhodie v2.0 wrote on Jan 6, 2009 5:28 PM:
Apparently, that tactic works very well with a certain class of conservative drones."
So you don't think that there are Left wing-nuts who have their own spamcasters? I'd hate to see Tom Cruise's, Madonna's or even Gore's. "
Rhodie v2.0 wrote on Jan 6, 2009 5:24 PM:
Also let's me harass y'all while on vacation. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 5:12 PM:
Did you get banned or something? "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 5:12 PM:
Then maybe reporters should stop asking hollywood actors what they think of geo-political issues. Oh wait, their opinion sells papers so they will keep asking. If you don't like it then don't buy the papers that print it. But since some people think actors are smarter than the average bear then pepers will continue to print their opinions.
Chucky isn't being quoted by reporters, he's sending me his views daily via email, ever since my hombre Brian signed me up for some wing-nut spamcaster.
I think he was hoping that I would be impressed by Norris' celebrity and would, consequently, mindlessly accept his absurd views as my own.
Apparently, that tactic works very well with a certain class of conservative drones. "
Rhodie v2.0 wrote on Jan 6, 2009 4:51 PM:
Then maybe reporters should stop asking hollywood actors what they think of geo-political issues. Oh wait, their opinion sells papers so they will keep asking. If you don't like it then don't buy the papers that print it. But since some people think actors are smarter than the average bear then pepers will continue to print their opinions.
At least Chuck hasn't joined the ranks of failed actors who force their own talkshows on us. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 12:13 PM:
That said, you still have not explained why anyone should care what Chuck Norris thinks about evolution, the internment of American citizens of Arabic descent or any other political issue. "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:36 AM:
P.S. I never said I liked the movies, I just gave you the facts. If you don't like what they are I can't help that. "
Lodian wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:36 AM:
Why are you comparing Chuck Norris to comedians? Oh wait... I get it. LOL! I don't think Chuck is trying to be a comedian, though he does make me laugh. :-) "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:25 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:24 AM:
A simple concept to most, I would think. "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:19 AM:
I didn't have time to check all the titles individually but I don't remeber seeing a since Chuck Norris movie on there.
On a personal note I was glad to see Hamlet 2 flopped big time. "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:12 AM:
http://www.amazon.com/Invasion-U-S-Chuck-Norris/dp/B00005O06W
It grossed over 17million in "85 which wasn't too shabby back then.
How's this you find a reputable survey site where they have Invasion USA in their listing and I might concede the point. I think you might find personal opinions listing near the bottom, but not survey of viewers would agree with you.
And if you want to talk bad acting we should shift to Rosanne Barr or Rosie O'donnel "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 10:16 AM:
" Leonard, that's why I've said before that research science is the worlds second oldest profession, and it is no different than the first.
One problem with your thesis is the peer review system. If someone publishes an article with cooked numbers there is a tremendous incentive for their fellow scientists to discredit them. Academic careers are made in this manner and professorships are won.
An additional problem is the issue of funding. Very little of the research being done in these areas is being funded by Greenpeace or the Sierra Club. The fact is that most of the funding has come either from the Federal Government (which has been rather unfriendly to the idea of global warming over the last 8 years) or major corporations who have their own reasons for not wanting to see carbon restrictions imposed on industry.
Truth be told, given the funding sources, we should probably expect to see reports trying to discredit global warming. The facts, however, are overwhelming and the truth is that things are probably worse than we have been told. "
Cogito wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:39 AM:
Lodian wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:36 AM:
Invasion USA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTHJngZweTg
. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:20 AM:
Are you of the opinion that the US would be a better place if the conservative movement just went away
Every country needs a loyal opposition but the American conservatives have become a perverted parody of the movement Ronald Reagan once led. "
Lodian wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:20 AM:
This is a really odd statement. Most people in the repair business know more than a little about what they are attempting to repair, especially if it's their career. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:18 AM:
It wouldn't sell if people didn't like it. Since in this context "good" and "bad" or "really, really, REALLY bad" are sujective terms.
Obviously, you have never seen "Invasion USA".
You can advocate aesthetic nihilism until the cows come home but the facts are the facts and "Invasion USA" is one of the dumbest, most poorly made, poorly acted and poorly edited films in the history of the movie industry.
If you don't believe it, go home and rent it. You will change your mind, I assure you. "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:13 AM:
Again, in your opinion.
It wouldn't sell if people didn't like it. Since in this context "good" and "bad" or "really, really, REALLY bad" are sujective terms (unless of are of the belief that your tastes are the only ones that matter in society). I don't like the Harry Potter series, does that mean they are bad? I like the Lions, does that mean they are good? I don't like Ellen does that mean I should call her a hack actor, a morally void pandering left-wing fanatical eco-terrorist? No, I disagree with her political views but I recognize she has a right to them without a context of "good, bad or really, really, REALLY bad", just different.
Are you of the opinion that the US would be a better place if the conservative movement just went away and left the country to its purly liberal slant? "
Janice M. Bonser wrote on Jan 6, 2009 8:14 AM:
Thank you Lenard for reprinting it. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 8:02 AM:
" "What I said is that he is a loser because he makes really, really, REALLY bad movies"
In your opinion. If he was so bad then he wouldn't have been in as many movies as he was. (I should say I don't think much of his movies either, never liked Walker much either, but W:TR lasted eight seasons so someone liked it.
L Ron Hubbards "Dianetics" is one of the top ten best selling books of the 20th Century.
Just because something sells well does not mean that it is good. "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:59 AM:
In your opinion. If he was so bad then he wouldn't have been in as many movies as he was. (I should say I don't think much of his movies either, never liked Walker much either, but W:TR lasted eight seasons so someone liked it.)
"and he espouses neo fascist political views."
Please explain. I thought he was conservative. Everything I read about him says he is conservative. Or are you saying conservativism itself is neo-fascism? "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:56 AM:
" Voter, many scientists on the global warming teat are doing the same thing as the pro tobacco guys.
Indeed, in the case of your man Dr Seitz, the individual lying about global warming was actually the SAME individual that was lying about the link between cancer and tobacco.
Its shocking what the ill informed will believe. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:55 AM:
" Leonard, so you are saying that people should not look to Hollywood actors for political direction if they are friends with George W. Bush and have won awards from conservative evangelical organizations?
That seems a little arbitrary to me. How did you come up with this standard?
No Brian, I am saying that people should not look to Hollywood actors for political direction.
This should be a simple concept but apparently it is just too much for you to wrap your mind around. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:53 AM:
What I do have a problem with is the absurd hypocrisy of the conservatives, neo fascists and Christian Jihadists who celebrate on the right what they condemn on the left. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:52 AM:
" Nice left-wing tactic, misquote. Show me where I said anything like that. I said I can see how YOU think he's a loser for helping kids, being recognized for acting and recieving an award for humanitarian efforts. Nothing in there was anything to do with politics. It was all about you trashing a man who has accomplished more to help his world than you have.
What I said is that he is a loser because he makes really, really, REALLY bad movies and he espouses neo fascist political views.
His charitable works are no more relevant to these issues than the charitable works of Angelina Joilie, Sean Penn or any other punching bag for the right that you can think of. "
Cogito wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:46 AM:
Brian wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:30 AM:
That seems a little arbitrary to me. How did you come up with this standard? "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:07 AM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 6, 2009 5:04 AM:
That seems a little arbitrary to me. How did you come up with this standard? "
Rhodie wrote on Jan 5, 2009 11:40 PM:
"But Chuck thinks his most rewarding accomplishment was the creation of his Kick-Start Foundation. With the help of President George Bush, Chuck implemented a program teaching the martial arts to 150 high-risk children at M C Williams Middle School in Houston, Texas, as part of the school curriculum. The program was so successful in helping these kids raise their self-esteem and instilling discipline and respect, as well as getting them out of gangs, that the program is now in 30 schools with over 4,200 young boys and girls actively participating.
Winning the 1998 Epiphany award on Walker, Texas Ranger for the best Christian program.
The Jewish Humanitarian Man of the Year Award." "
Leonard wrote on Jan 5, 2009 11:25 PM:
" Leonard, here's a few things you need to know about Chuck Norris: There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live. When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris. If you have 5 dollars and Chuck Norris has 5 dollars, he has more money than you. He can sneeze with his eyes open, eat just one Lays potato chip, kill two stones with one bird, he is the reason Waldo is hiding, lead a horse to water AND make him drink, and he can slam a revolving door. He has destroyed the Periodic Table because he only recognizes one element, the element of surprise. He has no "ctrl" button on his computer, because he is always in control. And lastly, Superman wears Chuck Norris pajamas.
An impressive list of accomplishments.
If only he could act. "
Janice M. Bonser wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:49 PM:
voter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 9:59 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 9:21 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 9:01 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:48 PM:
Brian wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:47 PM:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/01/AR2009010101780.html
Some geopolitical conflicts are morally complicated. The Israel-Gaza war is not. It possesses a moral clarity not only rare but excruciating.
Israel is so scrupulous about civilian life that, risking the element of surprise, it contacts enemy noncombatants in advance to warn them of approaching danger. Hamas, which started this conflict with unrelenting rocket and mortar attacks on unarmed Israelis -- 6,464 launched from Gaza in the past three years -- deliberately places its weapons in and near the homes of its own people.
This has two purposes. First, counting on the moral scrupulousness of Israel, Hamas figures civilian proximity might help protect at least part of its arsenal. Second, knowing that Israelis have new precision weapons that may allow them to attack nonetheless, Hamas hopes that inevitable collateral damage -- or, if it is really fortunate, an errant Israeli bomb -- will kill large numbers of its own people for which, of course, the world will blame Israel. "
Brian wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:29 PM:
We all know how B.O. wants to make the CIA his own personal security force and pretty much mothball the rest of it.
That being said, Panetta may be qualified based on his past experience as White House Chief of Staff. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:20 PM:
" Leonard, And I can be rest assured that
the right would never make a move like Farenheit 911 that blatantly concocted lies about Bush and doctored articles.
The Right makes intellectually dishonest media all the time.
Its called Talk Radio. "
voter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:20 PM:
This statement implies that intelligent design has no basis in scientific fact. Is that what you meant to imply? I guess anyone can talk about anything--you do it all the time--but to be a credible authority, you need expertise in the topic at hand, don't you think? "
Brian wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:18 PM:
I don't have to prove squat to you.
Ask the owners of the House Of Clocks how capable I am if you want to press the issue. "
Brian wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:15 PM:
" Brian, I think if you are "repairing" clocks that you don't fully understand, it's time to find a new career correspondence course.
-I figured you wouldn't understand what I was saying. I'm considering the source. "
Brian wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:13 PM:
the right would never make a move like Farenheit 911 that blatantly concocted lies about Bush and doctored articles.
It's fair to say that many on the left still believe Michael Moore is a good guy and he would never make a movie out of his own self interest no matter how
dishonest F911 was. "
voter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:11 PM:
Janice M. Bonser wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:07 PM:
like the dung on cattle ranches along highway 5, it is a green house gas 22 times more effective at capturing green house gas than co2. Biodigesters capture methane for fuel and sterilize dung so that it does not stink. It still stinks along highway 5 because California has regulations that make it unprofitable to use biodigesters. I know it is colder where i live but itis warmer where the polar bears live. So we could at least let the biodigesters get rid of the stink. "
Brian wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:05 PM:
" Smirking. Brian, are you implying that off the screen, Chuck Norris is an expert in the biological sciences? seriously?
-Not at all. Are you implying that Chuck Norris has to have a broad knowledge of the biological sciences to talk about intelligent design?
I know very little about the design and engineering it takes to build a clock yet I have made it a career repairing clocks. That being said, am I not qualified to repair clocks because I don't know how to design one according to your rationale? "
Leonard wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:05 PM:
That being said, Norris would still be quite successful in his martial arts and his other ventures had he not become a movie star. Look a little deeper into his accomplishments Leonard. It's because of his accomplishments off the silver screen that makes him what he is. Please spare us having to endure your inability to judge someone for what they are and not just an empty shell because they are a celebrity.
None of which makes him an expert on biology or any of the other countless subjects he expounds upon daily in my in box.
Face it Brian, the right wing media elite make their living by controlling you and the other drones that give them power. Norris is simply a tool, a means to an end. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:01 PM:
L-Those movies made him millions.
Which just goes to show that, in addition to being utterly oblivious to their own self interest, the political peasantry of the right have no taste in film. "
Brian wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:59 PM:
Thanks to my dear friend Brian, I am guaranteed a daily serving of the finest Right Wing Spam.
I never thought of an article about Iraqi Christians in Iraq braving the violence to celebrate Christmas as right wing spam.
Leonard, you have a weird way of looking at things.
Is the article I sent you on the oil market right wing spam too, Leonard? "
voter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:53 PM:
Brian wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:49 PM:
Apparently, Mr Norris's years making some of the worst movies to ever blight the Silver Screen (Invasion USA anyone?) have also given him greater expertise in the subject of biology than 99.99999% of the professional biologists on the planet.
L-Those movies made him millions. They probably wouldn't have made it to the big screen had you been a part of the editing staff.
That being said, Norris would still be quite successful in his martial arts and his other ventures had he not become a movie star. Look a little deeper into his accomplishments Leonard. It's because of his accomplishments off the silver screen that makes him what he is. Please spare us having to endure your inability to judge someone for what they are and not just an empty shell because they are a celebrity. "
danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:46 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:46 PM:
Ladies and gentlemen: It's the Leonard P show. leonard, Do you have anything to say about Dr Seitz?
Ladies and gentlemen: Leonard P is going to circumvent trillions of dollars of expendenture single-handedly on the shoulders of Dr. Seitz.
Al Gore. Go home! We have the Leonard with Dr. Seitz. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:40 PM:
Daniel has repeatedly cited Seitz on these blogs. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:38 PM:
" Voter, I think you need to revisit the career of Frederick Seitz. His accomplishments would dwarf the overwhelming majority of his detractors. He just pointed out that the emperor had no clothes. "
Are you referring to Dr. Seitz's work at the RJ Reynolds corporation in the 1990's where the good doctor maintained that there was no link between smoking and cancer?
The man was a poster boy for scientific prostitution. He would say literally anything if you paid him enough.
A hero to the Right, I'm sure. "
Leonard wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:33 PM:
" Leonard, do you equate being a spokesman for 2nd Amendment rights the same as being considered a scientific expert on something like Streep or Danson?
Thanks to my dear friend Brian, I am guaranteed a daily serving of the finest Right Wing Spam. Consequently, I know darn well that Chuck Norris and the Nuge have never limited themselves to the affairs of the gun.
Just yesterday I received a "personal" message from Mr. Norris urging me to help him in his fight to get intelligent design incorporated into public school curricula.
Apparently, Mr Norris's years making some of the worst movies to ever blight the Silver Screen (Invasion USA anyone?) have also given him greater expertise in the subject of biology than 99.99999% of the professional biologists on the planet.
Of course, what else would you expect from a demigod of the rightwing media industrial complex? "
voter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:32 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:23 PM:
danielh wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:22 PM:
1) A large majority of our leading climate scientists believe the earth's climate is warming.
2) recent studies show an alarming warming trend.
3) Al Gore ... just wants people to start thinking
What do you think? "
voter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:22 PM:
I agree that much can be learned outside the classroom. I would not list talk radio and partisan news sources as good places begin. "
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:20 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:19 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:14 PM:
voter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:05 PM:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine
Lots of folks were duped by their petition which was circulated to look like it had come from the National Academy of Sciences. Lots of the signatories are bogus, etc. "
voter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:59 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:59 PM:
Rhodie v2.0 wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:57 PM:
But still:
"none of you climate experts posting here today has a college degree in any subject"
Does Forest land Management count? "
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:53 PM:
Leonard wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:51 PM:
We've elevated our actors to authorities on virtually every subject even when they haven't portrayed them in a movie; these are our "heroes." And most of them believe that they are so much better and smarter than anyone else. It's nauseating. "
I absolutely agree. Just look at the way the half wits on the Right hang on every word uttered by the likes of Chuck Norris, Ted Nugent and the late Charlton Heston.
It is as if the Prophets of Old had returned to the Earth and started spamming people's email accounts.
Pitiful.... "
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:51 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:48 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:46 PM:
lodisafeway wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:45 PM:
lodisafeway wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:41 PM:
Even in the realm of climatology, a little common sense goes a long way. "
voter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:22 PM:
voter wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:21 PM:
sam wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:16 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 4:11 PM:
SportsGuru wrote on Jan 5, 2009 3:55 PM:
COOLING ON GLOBAL WARNING
Perhaps even more important is the growing realization that the warming trend of the late 20th century has, for the last 10 years or so, essentially come to a halt. The data collected by international meteorological offices confirm this. This most peculiar fact is rarely mentioned in policy debates, but it certainly provides decision makers with a vital respite to reconsider their climate policy options.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122937766062908297.html "
SportsGuru wrote on Jan 5, 2009 3:53 PM:
NEW PRESIDENT OF EUROPEAN UNION BELIEVES MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING IS A MYTH
http://www.poligazette.com/2009/01/04/czech-and-eu-leader-considers-global-warming-a-myth/ "
SportsGuru wrote on Jan 5, 2009 3:51 PM:
FRANK,
You're kind of a kookla .... the man made global warming scam has been exposed as an "incorrect guess". Just look at the most recent facts:
..the rate of increase (in sea ice) from September onward is the fastest rate of change on record, either upwards or downwards. How can that be, with global warming an all that???
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=13834 "
lodisafeway wrote on Jan 5, 2009 3:21 PM:
Audi 5000 wrote on Jan 5, 2009 2:30 PM:
tanner b wrote on Jan 5, 2009 2:16 PM:
dogs4you wrote on Jan 5, 2009 12:03 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Jan 5, 2009 11:48 AM:
Rhodie wrote on Jan 5, 2009 11:45 AM:
real facts wrote on Jan 5, 2009 11:41 AM:
how can one be an "expert" in biology, when he cannot rectify the "componentry"?
shoot, OUTSIDE "religion" even the "biology" design tells the real "science" of what is right/wrong
he is one block short of a truth molecular building model "
wtf wrote on Jan 5, 2009 11:29 AM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 11:28 AM:
Rhodie wrote on Jan 5, 2009 11:22 AM:
IF Mr. Caruso's hypothesis is correct that man is causing the global warming then how would he explain the hundreds of warming cycles that happened before man started burning carbon fuels? Fact is the Earth has been in basically a calm period. Save an occasional eruption that affected the immediate people around it (minus the 1860's), a massive ocean earthquake and a few huricanes, the Earth has been a very safe place to live for the past 10k years compared to it's past. With the notable exception of Mt. Tuba's eruption nothing has threatened the human race since it started it's dominance of this planet. "
max stanfield wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:52 AM:
lodisafeway wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:51 AM:
Of course none of these guys were able to withstand the full length of "basic training" that they volunteered to undergo prior to filming in order to get a "real" understanding of what those who did go to war endured. No, they dropped like flies and I believe none survived more than three weeks of that boot-camp "torture."
We've elevated our actors to authorities on virtually every subject even when they haven't portrayed them in a movie; these are our "heroes." And most of them believe that they are so much better and smarter than anyone else. It's nauseating. "
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:44 AM:
wtf wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:39 AM:
The Coming Farting Cows Tax versus a Tax Credit for Dead Cockroaches
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/01/coming-farting-cows-tax-versus-tax.html
Sorry, Frank, no can do. We already have way too many taxes and Arnie wants to add more when all he'd have to do is cut costs. But NOOOOO! That would be too easy. "
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:38 AM:
wtf wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:38 AM:
Couldn't agree with you more, Frank! Alarming is right on the money.....
Britain is in the grip of the longest cold snap for more than 10 years as forecasters predict another week of freezing temperatures.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4077085/Britain-in-grip-of-longest-cold-snap-for-10-years.html
Oops! You said "warming" trend, didn't you Frank?
OK, how about this?
Frank says, "Al Gore is not in "la la land," but just wants people to start thinking of the consequences if something is not done to decrease CO2 emissions."
Wait a minute.....frankly, Frank, don't think I want to **reduce** CO2 emissions. I mean, geez! You're talking to farmers, Frank, and...and...CO2 is kinda necessary to grow plants...you know...CROPS...like the FOOD we eat!
http://www.axcessnews.com/index.php/articles/show/id/17326 "
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:37 AM:
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 9:39 AM:
lodisafeway wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:36 AM:
Let's take a look at another little gem of Mr. Caruso's - "It is better to error (sic) on the side of caution then (sic) to do nothing . . ." What happened to his "knowing" of the impending doom that would just a few lines later have him erring on the side of caution? You can't have it both ways, fella!
Exactly what flavor of Kool-Aid were you sipping as you penned this enlightening missive, Mr. Caruso? And what is it that you plan to put into Mr. Portal's cup of coffee after you lose your little bet? "
Neo wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:08 AM:
lodisafeway wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:55 AM:
The Constitution has no prohibition against any citizen "believing" in anything they choose; in fact, one of the reasons that people came to the "New World" hundreds of years ago was to escape European governments from dictating to its citizens how they should believe. The First Amendment was an attempt to keep the government from interfering with our individual right to worship as we see fit; not to attempt to dictate how we think. "
Brian wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:41 AM:
And I'm dubious Mr. Dooley and the vast majority of society will apologize to
Mr. Caruso for wanting to maintain a certain qualification required to get married that being it must be between a man and a woman. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Frank. :~ "
Cogito wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:18 AM:
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