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The following stories have received the most reader comments during the last 7 days.
- The country's mess is our fault (170)
- Obama is not a moderate (130)
- Sarah Palin's book hits the shelves: Locals react (73)
- Public health care is a Christian option (64)
- Lodi City Council plans to cap number of taco trucks at 22 (50)
- The haves should help the have-nots (30)
- Tokay in, traveling to unbeaten No. 3 Grant for football playoffs (25)
- Government-run health care is a bad idea (25)
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Does citing the facts on immigration mean I am a hate-monger?
Toward the middle of every week, I check the News-Sentinel blog to find out how readers responded to my column from the preceding Saturday.
I'm curious to measure how effectively I've made my argument. And I look for valuable feedback from readers who may point out an angle that I might have overlooked.
The columns that have generated the most passionate reader reaction are the critical ones that I've directed at President George W. Bush and those that reflect my reductionist immigration philosophy.
Three weeks ago, commenting on two stories by News-Sentinel reporter Jennifer Bonnett about the Lodi Unified School District's English as a second language classes, I wrote that after more than 20 years of teaching adult ESL, I had serious doubts about their effectiveness.
In my summary, I made two central points.
First, if the district and, in fact, the nation wants to reduce the huge numbers of non-English speakers who drain increasingly scarce financial and teacher resources, the Mexican government will have to fulfill its obligation as a sovereign nation to provide for its citizens. Instead, Mexico actively pushes them toward California, where they bring their school-age children. Once here, more children are born.
Second, unless the decades-old trend of unchecked illegal immigration reverses itself, America as we know it will cease to exist.
Some News-Sentinel readers objected.
Several feel that a multicultural, multilingual California would be a richer, more rewarding place to live.
Others say that California once belonged to Mexico and it is only just that, through immigration, the state will gradually revert to its original status.
Still another group concluded that I am too harsh on the young second-language learners. One invited me to go to Stanford University, where her former ESL student is pursuing an advanced degree.
All those views are well and good. And many Californians hold them.
But here's the key thing: Every single one of them is an opinion and debatable.
Maybe bilingual signage and pressing 1 for English doesn't bother you. But it does me.
Mexico, in fact, did once own the California territory. But Mexico lost a war with the U.S., willingly signed a treaty, accepted payment in exchange for its land and thus allowed the U.S. to acquire California legitimately.
And sure, we can find ESL successes at Stanford and maybe even Harvard, too. But with the California Hispanic high school dropout rate at about 25 percent, it's obvious that there are more failures than successes.
We can argue and argue and argue.
But there's no disputing my two conclusions. Like it or not, they're fact-based and 100 percent accurate.
To repeat, the students overwhelming our schools are either illegally in the U.S. or the illegal aliens' children. If Mexico treated its citizens with dignity or if the U.S. enforced immigration law, they would still be in their native countries.
And if the border remains wide open, then the America that many Lodians and I grew up in is finished.
Should anyone care to challenge either of those two observations, please feel free to contact me.
I'll make one final and important point that readers also overlooked.
Although some charged me of "hate," I'll simply say in my defense that I didn't pull the statistics out of the air. Don't kill the messenger.
Bonnett's original story and the column I followed up with cited the Pew Hispanic Center and the U.S. Census Bureau as calculating that by 2050 Hispanic K-12 student enrollment would increase by 116 percent nationwide and that two thirds of all San Joaquin Valley children are Hispanic.
Does that make the Census Bureau and the Pew Hispanic Center "hate" organizations?
The reality is that to deal effectively with the increasingly high rates of non-English speakers in California's public education system, we have to address what I refer to as politically incorrect "hate facts" — that is, irrefutable facts that that everyone ignores because of their connotation.
As long as no one — except maybe me — dares to talk about them, then you can expect more of the same, at least until 2050. For now, that's as long as the Census Bureau dares to looks ahead.
Joe Guzzardi recently retired from Lincoln Tech Academy, where he taught, among other subjects, ESL for more than two decades.

Reader Feedback
Leonard wrote on Dec 5, 2008 10:11 AM:
(12-05) 08:19 PST AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) --
A 105-year-old singer whose past as a singer in Nazi Germany has dogged his reputation for decades is back in the spotlight after telling a Dutch television show Adolf Hitler was a "good guy" "
mainframe wrote on Dec 5, 2008 1:48 AM:
Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 8:11 PM:
" Brian, it gives me no happiness to know that you are so ignorant and bigoted that you think Schindler saved the lives he did because he was a Nazi. "
Hmmm, he was a Nazi and he did. He was also a human who had compassion. "
Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 8:06 PM:
Hmmm, Now Leonard contends that no good can come from evil.
I guess Schindler was just a mirage. "
Leonard wrote on Dec 4, 2008 8:00 PM:
Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 7:55 PM:
Leonard wrote on Dec 4, 2008 7:34 PM:
Only you can do that. "
Leonard wrote on Dec 4, 2008 7:33 PM:
" You might as well just go piss on his grave. Have you not any compassion?
I don't know. Do lesbians have any compassion for men?
Uh-oh....
It looks like he is drinking again.
Anyone want to take a bet that he uses the n-word before the night is over? "
Leonard wrote on Dec 4, 2008 7:31 PM:
" You called me an idiot for pointing out the small ray of good that came out of the Nazi Party.
You are an idiot if you think that the Nazi Party led Schindler to do the good that he did.
A few members of the Party did fight against its agenda but AGAIN, they did what they did IN SPITE OF THEIR MEMBERSHIP IN THE NAZI PARTY NOT BECAUSE OF IT!!!
The Nazi Party preached a gospel of pure evil and hate. Nothing good could come from that message. "
Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 7:27 PM:
I don't know. Do lesbians have any compassion for men? "
Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 7:24 PM:
So you don't give a damn about what Schindler did too?
Why don't you just tell all your Jewish friends that what Schindler did is irrelevant. "
Lodian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 7:16 PM:
" Oskar Schindler provides an example of an ordinary man who rose above the madness and insanity around him to take action based on his inner conscience. He provides proof that is it possible to do good even from the very center of hatred and persecution. He worked from within the Nazi Party to achieve his purpose in saving human lives. He refused to stand passively by and watch an entire people be systematically destroyed for believing in a different religion. His actions beg us to examine our own lives and ask ourselves what we would do in a similar situation of oppression and persecution. By saving 1,100 lives, Oskar Schindler shows us that one person can stand up against bigotry, prejudice, and intolerance, and in doing so make a difference. "
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Brian: This is called PLAGIARISM!
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Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 7:14 PM:
I don't have any desire to redeem the Nazi Party. Neither did Steven Spielberg when he made "Schindlers List".
You need to back off with your accusations!!! "
Leonard wrote on Dec 4, 2008 7:02 PM:
Schindler was a good man despite the fact that he was a Nazi, not because of the fact that he was a Nazi.
The Nazi Party was a force of pure evil and your attempts to redeem it are despicable. "
Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 6:51 PM:
Is the act of 1 man saving 1100 people not enough?
How dare you!!!!! "
Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 6:49 PM:
Are you comfortable saying all the descendents of Schindlers's list are just putting on an act when they visit his grave regularly? "
Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 6:44 PM:
" Brian wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:32 AM:
the Nazi party was not all bad.
See Brian, it's like I said. You don't need me to make you look like a complete idiot.
-Leonard, many Jews today can thank that little ray of hope Oscar Schindler.
Perhaps you should contact each and every Jew that is alive because of Oscar Schindler and tell them I am an idiot for saying some good came out of the Nazi Party. "
Leonard wrote on Dec 4, 2008 6:32 PM:
Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 6:20 PM:
Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 6:05 PM:
Leonard, you need to just admit that you feel Robertson could turn into a Hitler and we can move one.
I suspect the public stonings thing was taken out of context. "
Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 4:36 PM:
" Mr Dockter, if the United States is going to invade every country run my a murderous dictator, we are going to need a much bigger Army.
-A rhetorical statement. And that being said, you still believe Saddam was not an immiment threat?
Actually, If you believe we should go after every dictator at the same time militarily and expect to get the same results as going after one dictator at a time then you're more foolish than I thought. "
Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 4:30 PM:
" First Brian starts ruminating on the inferiority of other races and now he is claiming that the Nazis were not "all bad".
-Yep, and you just keep trying to re-write history that Oscar Schindler was not a member of the Nazi Party. Thousands of the Descendents and the remaining Schindler Jews would differ with you about this member of the Nazi Party.
What's ironic about this whole conversation is the site Leonard won't go to re-enforces how he feels about Pat Robertson and it draws parallels with his social conservatism and the social conservatism of the Nazi Party.
Leonard is always looking for proposterous things to back up his liberal agenda. Yet I find something for him and he wants no part of it. "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Dec 4, 2008 10:38 AM:
Perhaps you should volunteer. I understand that you have some relevant experience. "
Lodian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 10:22 AM:
Leonard wrote on Dec 4, 2008 7:46 AM:
I've seen some of his art and I am pretty sure that's not what you're talking about. "
Brian wrote on Dec 4, 2008 7:37 AM:
-HMMM...The Democratic party overall did not want to invade Iraq. In general, they wanted to give Saddam another chance. I smell a hipocrite here. Many decent and good people from the Democratic party did not agree that Saddam was ALL bad that we should remove him. Aren't they too inviting ridicule, disgust, humiliation....?
Indeed there were good aspects of the Saddam regime too. I would still remove Saddam and Hitler from power regardless. "
Leonard wrote on Dec 4, 2008 5:12 AM:
" Leonard, life is good Just went out and shot my new Ruger model 77
Mark II 30-06 to-dayLaminated stock, all stainless Just makes all
The Bull S*** in the world fade away!!
Nice! I bought this new ranch rifle a few months back and I've only taken it out once so far. One of the ironies of my life is the fact that now that I have the money to buy the guns I've always wanted, I don't have the time to shoot them.
I do keep a dry fire pistol though, to keep my sight picture clean and steady. "
real facts wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:59 PM:
" richnlife: The blogs were shut down (no more comments allowed) right after real facts complained to the LNS. ").
if you couldn't lie, you would have nothing more to look forward to you in your life.
how about YOU explain to rich WHY i made the contact with the LNS in the first place, so that the blame for all this fallout can be traced rightfully back to your doorstep.
i am laughing at you yelling at brian in these blogs to own his stuff, when i have been watching you pull your garbage in here like this for over two years, and NEVER owning what YOU do
the board has YOU to thank for it's "squeeze"
in the meantime, maybe you can also explain to rich how in over two years you have yet to apologize for anything you have ever said/done in these boards "
Gator wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:30 PM:
Mark II 30-06 to-dayLaminated stock, all stainless Just makes all
The Bull S*** in the world fade away!! "
Leonard wrote on Dec 3, 2008 12:13 PM:
I don't like where this is going. "
Lodian wrote on Dec 3, 2008 9:46 AM:
Leonard wrote on Dec 3, 2008 8:56 AM:
the Nazi party was not all bad.
See Brian, it's like I said. You don't need me to make you look like a complete idiot.
To claim that the most foul and loathsome expression of pure evil to raise its head in the last hundred years was "not all bad" is to invite, ridicule, disgust, humiliation and general disdain from all of the decent and good people on this planet. "
Brian wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:40 AM:
Brian wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:36 AM:
Appeasement is the left's middle name. "
Brian wrote on Dec 3, 2008 7:32 AM:
Were you referring to some policy that existed separate from their campaign to murder Jews, leftists, homosexuals and gypsies? "
BINGO, Not everything about the NAZI party was ruthless. If you had just followed the link I provided you would have noticed it was from one of your leftist ilk. The link slammed Coulter, Robertson, and others. Funny thing is, even the left understands the Nazi party
was not all bad. "
Lodian wrote on Dec 2, 2008 11:05 PM:
"Yep, it's typical of Leonard to distort what other people say to make them look stupid."
Brian: You don't need anyone's help to make you look stupid. Actually, I think Leonard has been more than generous in giving you many opportunities to explain yourself so you don't continue to look stupid, but you blow it every single time. How much help should we all give you? Shouldn't your comments stand on their own? When you can't explain away your racism that shouldn't be anyone else's fault. "
Leonard wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:11 PM:
" Yep, it's typical of Leonard to distort what other people say to make them look stupid.
Sigh....
OK, Brian, lets try this.
Can you explain to the rest of us what you meant by the term "the Nazi's Social Conservatism"?
Were you referring to some policy that existed separate from their campaign to murder Jews, leftists, homosexuals and gypsies? "
Brian wrote on Dec 2, 2008 6:35 PM:
I'm not the only one who gets this treatment.
He's so insecure. When he's unfamiliar
with something he get condescending. "
Lodian wrote on Dec 2, 2008 4:47 PM:
Leonard wrote on Dec 2, 2008 9:32 AM:
I have stood near Castle Garden and seen races of far greater peril to us than the Irish. I have seen the Hungarians, and the Italians and the Poles. I have seen these poor wretches trooping out, wretches physically, wretches mentally, wretches morally, and stood there almost trembling for my country, and said, what shall we do if this thing keeps on?
Professor E.H. Johnson, Crozier Theological Seminary, 1888 "
Brian wrote on Dec 2, 2008 7:29 AM:
-I doubt it. But as soon as it becomes PC to be a Hitler apologist some liberal will be writing a book.
But it is PC now to be a terrorist apologist. Deepok Chopra is a known terrorist apologist. "
Leonard wrote on Dec 2, 2008 7:26 AM:
What else have I said that you would attach a different meaning to to make me look stupid? We all know how you love inflating your ego by making others look stupid.
Brian, you are the only person who can make you look stupid.
Why don't you exercise some personal responsibility and stop blaming everyone else for your problems? "
Leonard wrote on Dec 2, 2008 7:24 AM:
" I see you're twisting words again Leonard.
Sure I said Nazi Social Conservatism.
And you said "I have never heard anyone describe the murderous policies of the Third Reich as "social conservatism".
Neither had I until you said that.
So what, on Earth, were you talking about? What, precisely, did you mean by the term "Nazi Social Conservatism"?
Please, do clarify, if you can. "
Brian wrote on Dec 2, 2008 6:49 AM:
-I didn't think you would. If you would have then you wouldn't have been able to distort what I said. But, that's how you operate. "
Brian wrote on Dec 2, 2008 6:35 AM:
Sure I said Nazi Social Conservatism.
And you said "I have never heard anyone describe the murderous policies of the Third Reich as "social conservatism".
Neither had I until you said that.
What else have I said that you would attach a different meaning to to make me look stupid? We all know how you love inflating your ego by making others look stupid. "
Leonard wrote on Dec 1, 2008 6:31 PM:
If you read the link I provided You would have seen that theey weren't describing the murderous policies of the third reich as social conservatism.
But you can describe it as that if it makes you feel good.
Brian, I wasn't referring to your link which I did not click on or follow. I was referring to your own post in which you addressed the topic of "the Nazi's Social Conservatism" (your words, not mine).
If you do not want to be held accountable for your own words, don't post them on the blogs. "
Lodian wrote on Dec 1, 2008 4:38 PM:
Brian wrote on Dec 1, 2008 4:02 PM:
If you read the link I provided You would have seen that theey weren't describing the murderous policies of the third reich as social conservatism.
But you can describe it as that if it makes you feel good.
Actually, your policy of not going to links from here will further you to misinterpret the article because that's just how you operate. "
voter wrote on Dec 1, 2008 4:00 PM:
Lodian wrote on Dec 1, 2008 3:48 PM:
richnlife wrote on Dec 1, 2008 1:47 PM:
It's sad when people decide to ignore issues simply because it's to much for them to handle "
Leonard wrote on Dec 1, 2008 1:17 PM:
" edumacation: Geez, you sure seem to enjoy painting a wildly colorful picture of what you think I "think" even if none of it has a grain of truth.
Not for the first time I am reminded of the Dreaded Rear Admiral. "
Lodian wrote on Dec 1, 2008 12:25 PM:
P.S. Has anyone ever told you that you seem to have a hard time staying focused and on task. (chuckle) "
SportsGuru wrote on Dec 1, 2008 12:01 PM:
I am an American who happens to be of mexican descent, and I don't find "enforcement of immigration laws" to be racist at all.
But then again, my family came here legally. "
Leonard wrote on Dec 1, 2008 9:58 AM:
" Lodian: I don't hate the criminals. I only wish they would be indicted or arrested. People like liberal, San Francisco TV-Radio commentator and child porn afficionado/prison inmate Bernie Ward
Bernie Wart is doing time. The same cannot be said of the large number of high ranking Republican pedophiles and predators that have been exposed over the last 8 years. "
edumacation wrote on Dec 1, 2008 9:24 AM:
Real liberals will refuse to defend criminals and elected officals just because they are "politically correct". I guess that you were probably an OJ supporter? Once you know someones liberal credentials, you make your decision about them. Liberals don't ask "Did you do the crime?" Instead they ask what color/sexual orientation/religion or country of origin? I guess you are upset that the mayor of Birmingham, Alabama was arrested this morning? Yup the FBI is picking on "people of color" again?
At least you liberals are consistent. If a criminal passes the "liberal litmus test" they can do NO HARM?
Its not what crime did they do? It's what color etc etc etc are they? "
Lodian wrote on Dec 1, 2008 7:59 AM:
Leonard wrote on Dec 1, 2008 7:58 AM:
So Leonard, Are you also suggesting that Robertson and the like's Social Conservatism my lead us down the road similar to the Nazi's Social Conservatism?
That's a new one.
I have never heard anyone describe the murderous policies of the Third Reich as "social conservatism".
Should we expect a new book from Michelle Malkin called "In Defense of Hitler"?
I should have known when they rehabilitated Joseph McCarthy that their Fuhrer wouldn't be far behind. "
Brian wrote on Dec 1, 2008 7:33 AM:
So Leonard, Are you also suggesting that Robertson and the like's Social Conservatism my lead us down the road similar to the Nazi's Social Conservatism?
Your type of conspiracy theory can only come from a troubled mind polluted with liberalism. Oh well, this is the type of stuff you libs promulgate and cherish. How sad. ): "
edumacation wrote on Nov 30, 2008 10:51 PM:
Leonard wrote on Nov 30, 2008 6:22 PM:
I'm beside myself trying to understand
even if the U.S. could be labeled a Christian nation how that could compare to how people are treated in Islamic countries under Sharia Law.
Well, I suppose it would depend on which brand of fundamentalist whack jobs was to seize power. Pat Robertson wasn't the first theo-fascist to suggest that homosexuals should be murdered in public stonings and I an sure he won't be the last.
If that is the sort of tyranny you seek to impose on our country, then yes, I would say it would be pretty comparable to Sharia Law. "
Leonard wrote on Nov 30, 2008 6:22 PM:
" How little you know about Islam. You didn't even know or heard about Sharia Law until I brought it up in a blog some time ago.
Chuckle....
Please, don't let the facts get in your way. "
Brian wrote on Nov 30, 2008 2:41 PM:
Yet you overlook the 34 countries that are labeled Islamic. Given 99.9% of all the terrorists attacks are by Muslims, I'm beside myself trying to understand
even if the U.S. could be labeled a Christian nation how that could compare to how people are treated in Islamic countries under Sharia Law. "
Brian wrote on Nov 30, 2008 2:32 PM:
Brian wrote on Nov 30, 2008 2:30 PM:
" Brian, will you ever learn to look before you leap?
There are a number of groups campaigning for better treatment of Islamic women both here in the US and around the world. Almost all of them are run by people you would call "liberals".
Its just like I always say. Facts are like kryptonite to conservatives. "
-I never said there weren't groups.
You have some facts that all these groups
would be called liberals by conservatives?
The Jihadwatch website has a multitude of Islamic watchdog sites that I would consider conservative.
I always thought liberals had trouble even saying Islamic Radicals let alone
acknowledging the treatment of women in Islamic countries to the point where they would want to help them. "
Leonard wrote on Nov 30, 2008 11:19 AM:
There are a number of groups campaigning for better treatment of Islamic women both here in the US and around the world. Almost all of them are run by people you would call "liberals".
Its just like I always say. Facts are like kryptonite to conservatives. "
Leonard wrote on Nov 30, 2008 11:15 AM:
" Leonard wrote: I don't think you are bright enough to understand what you
wrote.
What else do you see in your crystal ball Leonard?
I don't have to be a sage to see edumacation for what he is. You may want to smear lip stick on a pig but I simply call it like I see it. "
Brian wrote on Nov 30, 2008 10:09 AM:
The number of rapes committed by Muslim men against women in the last decade is so incredibly high that it cannot be viewed as anything other than culturally implicit behaviour. It is overtly reinforced and sanctioned by Islamic religious leaders who blame the victims and excuse the rapists. "
Brian wrote on Nov 30, 2008 10:00 AM:
Women who live in Saudi Arabia, where the fundamentalist Wahhabi sect exerts such a strong influence, risk arrest on suspicion of prostitution simply for walking down the street alone. Ironically, Amnesty International claims that in Pakistan, a locus for sexual slavery trafficking, women have actually been killed for refusing to engage in prostitution.
We hear very little about the sad plight of women in Muslim countries. In America there is much more of an outcry against Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell for their alleged opposition to women's rights. For instance, on the issue of abortion, Robertson and Falwell place the issue of the unborn child's right to life ahead of the right of the mother to have a "choice". They are condemned for speaking out on behalf of the child, who, after all, cannot speak for himself or herself. "
Brian wrote on Nov 30, 2008 9:57 AM:
Many Americans concerned with civil rights are quick to come forward with charges of abuse and discrimination against so-called "Islamophobes," yet fall strangely silent when they are urged to examine Islamic beliefs in greater detail. "
Brian wrote on Nov 30, 2008 9:32 AM:
Brian wrote on Nov 30, 2008 9:24 AM:
The ten big lies about America. "
Brian wrote on Nov 30, 2008 8:51 AM:
-Yes, they are strangely silent on this issue. But they aren't silent about spewing propaganda that the U.S. is the root cause of the spread of radical Islam even though Jihad is one of the prime directives in the Koran. "
Brian wrote on Nov 30, 2008 8:32 AM:
wrote.
What else do you see in your crystal ball Leonard?
Coming from a person who has said to me he often doesn't realize what he is writing. How can Leonard be so sure about Edumacation? "
Brian wrote on Nov 30, 2008 8:28 AM:
Vast Majority Of U.S. Companies Don't Offshore IT Work
A survey of 1,400 CIOs by Robert Half Technology found that only 5% of CIOs said their companies have offshored technology jobs. "
Leonard wrote on Nov 30, 2008 8:22 AM:
Nah, I think I will stick by the deal I outlined to Mazi. Your terms are way to complicated and, frankly, I don't think you are bright enough to understand what you wrote.
As for my feelings about homosexuals, I try to follow Christ's teachings and to extend love and respect to all people. "
Lodian wrote on Nov 29, 2008 11:06 PM:
edumacation wrote on Nov 29, 2008 9:32 PM:
Leonard wrote on Nov 29, 2008 6:26 PM:
Especially since Obama's aunt is here illegally. He will grant citizenship to all first thing.
Really? You want to bet?
Here's the deal. If Obama signs legislation giving citizenship to all illegal aliens in the first hundred days of his Administration, I will leave these blogs forever and never post here again.
If he doesn't sign such legislation, you will remove your racist homophobic carcass from these blogs never to return.
Care to put your money where your mouth is?
Care to put "
Mazie wrote on Nov 28, 2008 9:05 AM:
Mazie wrote on Nov 28, 2008 9:03 AM:
tired wrote on Nov 28, 2008 8:40 AM:
edumacation wrote on Nov 27, 2008 9:42 PM:
edumacation wrote on Nov 27, 2008 12:42 PM:
Mazie wrote on Nov 27, 2008 10:01 AM:
Gator wrote on Nov 27, 2008 8:47 AM:
european engineers. The Reason, they worked cheaper and their work ethic
was better, all this took place in the San Francisco bay area and in Reno
and SacramentoThe Asians have only one advantage they know how
to study and they know what success means and they go after it As for
the Gate program, the last time I picked up my grandkids at Elkhorn there
were a good number of Asians there "
edumacation wrote on Nov 26, 2008 11:31 PM:
edumacation wrote on Nov 26, 2008 11:13 PM:
ralphcesena wrote on Nov 26, 2008 8:45 PM:
Don't forget to support Adopt A Child on Saturday:
http://www.lodinews.com/articles/2008/11/25/features/1_rotary_081125.txt "
sam wrote on Nov 26, 2008 6:07 PM:
wtf, I do love your blogs.
Happy Thanksgiving and blog on. "
wtf wrote on Nov 26, 2008 6:01 PM:
Ye gads! I think you're right; especially since the one I posted was the ***short*** list. "
Lodian wrote on Nov 26, 2008 3:16 PM:
Lodian wrote on Nov 26, 2008 3:15 PM:
wtf wrote on Nov 26, 2008 2:48 PM:
I totally agree. Well said! But I'd lock them up for longer than one day. "
Socrates wrote on Nov 26, 2008 12:47 PM:
America is broke, unemployed, etc. Taxpayers will not pay more taxes in a recession type economy when people are hurting. Mexico's corrupted government needs to get the message! Stop sending your poor to California and start taking care of all Mexicans not just the rich elite de ls Ciudad De Mexico! "
edumacation wrote on Nov 26, 2008 10:05 AM:
Gator wrote on Nov 26, 2008 9:25 AM:
American worker has priced himself out of a job and on the other hand
environmental restrictions have restricted development on many fronts no mater how clean the company wasUAW workers under contract make 70.00+ an hour in wages and benefits as for USA Toyota its 40.00 and hour
wage and benefits. The main reason for the offshore is the American public
hasnt put their foot down and said no!!! We stopped immigration reform
twice dead in its tracks with the I-net and phone calls the same can be done
with the offshoreYou need to be involved 24x7x365 not just sit around
and moan were getting screwed.. "
wtf wrote on Nov 26, 2008 7:58 AM:
Northrop Grumman
Northwest Airlines
Owens Corning
PepsiCo
Pfaltzgraff
Pfizer
Phillips-Van Heusen
Pinnacle West Capital Corporation
Pitney Bowes
Quaker Oats
Radio Flyer
Radio Shack
Rainbow Technologies
Rawlings Sporting Goods
Rayovac
Raytheon Aircraft
Sallie Mae
Samsonite
Sun Microsystems
Target
Tupperware
USAA
Wachovia Bank
Walgreens
Xerox
Zenith
Fact is, it's getting harder and harder to "buy American"
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/75822 "
wtf wrote on Nov 26, 2008 7:58 AM:
Delta Apparel
Direct TV
Eastman Kodak
Ethan Allen
Evenflo
Evergreen Wholesale Florist
Evolving Systems
Evy of California
Expedia
Extrasport
ExxonMobil
Ford Motor
Foster Wheeler
Franklin Mint
Franklin Templeton
Freeborders
Frito Lay
Fruit of the Loom
General Electric
General Motors
Generation 2 Worldwide
Genesco
Georgia-Pacific
Gerber Childrenswear
GlobespanVirata
Goldman Sachs
Gold Toe Brands
Goodrich
Goodyear Tire & Rubber
Google
Haggar
Halliburton
Hamilton Beach/Procter-Silex
The Hartford Financial Services Group
Harper-Wyman Company
Hasbro Manufacturing Services
Hershey
IBM
John Deere
Johns Manville
Johnson Controls
Johnson & Johnson
JPMorgan Chase
Kraft Foods
Lear Corporation
Leech Tool & Die Works
Lehman Brothers
Leoni Wiring Systems
Levi Strauss
Leviton Manufacturing Co.
Lexmark International
Moen
Money's Foods Us Inc.
Monona Wire Corp.
Monsanto
Morgan Stanley
Motion Control Industries
Motor Coach Industries International
Motorola
Nabisco
Nike "
wtf wrote on Nov 26, 2008 7:56 AM:
The following is a partial list of U.S. companies identified by CNNs Lou Dobbs as outsourcing jobs to foreign countries:
AFS Technologies
A.G. Edwards
Agere Systems
Agilent Technologies
AIG
Alamo Rent A Car
American Dawn
American Express
American Greetings
American Household
American Management Systems
American Standard
American Uniform Company
Anheuser-Busch
BellSouth
Bentley Systems
Berdon LLP
Berne Apparel
Bernhardt Furniture
Best Buy
Bestt Liebco Corporation
Beverly Enterprises
Birdair, Inc.
BISSELL
Black & Decker
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Capital One
Cardinal Brands
Carrier
Carter's
Caterpillar
Cigna
Circuit City
Cirrus Logic
Cisco Systems
Citigroup
Clear Pine Mouldings
Clorox
CNA
Coastcast Corp.
Coca-Cola
Dell Computer
DeLong Sportswear
Delphi
(cont.) "
Gator wrote on Nov 26, 2008 6:47 AM:
every one who follows the law and takes years to get in. An interesting point
is f you knew how much of all your taxes go to support the illegals it would
make you quite ill.. We only owe those folks one thing, to be treated humanely other than that, not one thingIt has become quite common to
bend the law to suit ones agenda and that is wrong!!! "
voter wrote on Nov 25, 2008 9:57 PM:
edumacation wrote on Nov 25, 2008 9:51 PM:
I know a place in Jalisco, you might not enjoy. "
edumacation wrote on Nov 25, 2008 9:41 PM:
voter wrote on Nov 25, 2008 9:02 PM:
voter wrote on Nov 25, 2008 8:56 PM:
edumacation wrote on Nov 25, 2008 8:44 PM:
Well, while your heart bleeds for your selected poor, I have a question for you. I dare you to be honest.
Why do USA liberal groups refuse to discuss the way Islamic women are beaten, raped, abused and tortured. How about the way they are treated in Lodi? If these women were in any other PC group we would hear it if they stubbed a toenail. Where are the cries from the N.O.W. ladies? Hmm, perhaps it should be spelled H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.T. instead? "
voter wrote on Nov 25, 2008 8:15 PM:
voter wrote on Nov 25, 2008 8:09 PM:
voter wrote on Nov 25, 2008 8:05 PM:
edumacation wrote on Nov 25, 2008 6:32 PM:
Most immigrants to the USA come here for freedom and a new way of life which includes learning a new language and culture. When you take the absolute worst of a culture and bring it to the USA to celebrate it. It is only a salve for the guilty consciences of liberals. I don't hear you applauding other immigrants who are successful, ONLY the losers. Look at the immigrants from Korea, China, and Viet Nam. Their children had to learn a NEW ALPHABET before they could learn English. Mexicans with the same alphabet fail to graduate from high school in record numbers. The highest achieving students in the LUSD are immigrants, but NOT from Mexico. Explain that Mr/s liberal. "
edumacation wrote on Nov 25, 2008 6:16 PM:
I never implied that I did not associate with those who speak another language. Illegal migrants from Mexico would do well if they did speak Spanish. But alas, many of THESE people are illiterate in Spanish. I have many friends in central and South America. If you think I hate illegals from Mexico, you should hear what they say. "
voter wrote on Nov 25, 2008 5:46 PM:
T & C wrote on Nov 25, 2008 5:43 PM:
edumacation wrote on Nov 25, 2008 5:15 PM:
It's my telephone, and I answer it the way I WANT. Press #2 and you go to voice mail hell, where the caller will, hopefully, have an opportunity to listen to all the singing that he, she or it (non-gender specific for those who are confused about such matters) would like to enjoy or endure.
If you are observant, you will notice that typing characters into this comment space will result in different results. This is a software issue with the Townnews network servers as well as time delay issue with the various switches.
I don't need a "lesson" in grammar or spelling, however I suggest that you take a few lessons in manners.
Bottom Line: I won't do business with those who make NO effort to speak English. Guess what? Its my choice. Its a purely personal business decision. My customers make money from my work. Why encourage slothfulness, and laziness? "
Election Year wrote on Nov 25, 2008 4:37 PM:
concerned citizen: Make up your mind which way you want it. Everyone screams that they want "them" to learn English, but when "they" take ESL, "they" are preventing "American born" children from learning. What do you propose other than sending "them" all back across the border? And given your poor spelling and usage, perhaps you would "benifit" from taking a class in English. "
edumacation wrote on Nov 25, 2008 2:27 PM:
Leonard wrote on Nov 25, 2008 11:34 AM:
Only if you are also inciting hate. "
concerned citizen wrote on Nov 25, 2008 10:26 AM:
English for a second language being taught in elementary schools has slowed down the learning of our American born children. We are paying the price for illegals to be hospitalized and educated with our HARD EARNED dollars. Where is the sense in working people paying for able bodied illegal aliens to benifit from our hard work and THEN expect us to change our rules to accomodate their language!??!?!? "
edumacation wrote on Nov 25, 2008 8:41 AM:
Yep, turnabouts fair play
Heck I already love the food.........and Tequilla
I'm gonna fly the Lone Star Flag and Old Glory every day
I'm gonna celebrate every 4th of July
I'm gonna make them print them forms in English just for me
I'm gonna marry me a pretty senorita and
well have free medical care and free education for all our kids
Heck playin my old guitar is the only OTHER skill I got
I wonder if I'll see old George Strait over there
Hey Gringo you swimming the wrong way man
Yeah Yeah I know
Hey Amigo, Hey Amigo you got a seester? "
edumacation wrote on Nov 25, 2008 8:39 AM:
This song by Johnny Tex says it all:
http://www.texasreddirtmusic.com/slthm.html
"I was sittin in traffic listenin to the radio
George Strait was singin Seashores of Old mexico
IT sounded so good I got an idear
I'm gonna go there since they're all over here
the Lone star state should be renamed Texico
So long Texas hello mexico
I'm gonna swim the Rio Grande at El Paso
I'm leavin tonight I ain't gonna pack
I'm only takin the clothes on my back
So long Texas hello mexico
I'll drive a rattletrap car with no liability
I'll demand equal rights though I'm there illegaly
I'll protest in the streets 'till they finally grant them
Sing English words to their national anthem
Hey Vincente what's right for your people should be right for me.
Theres no controllin that tide that keeps rollin across the line
This old Texas cowboy feels like my home states no longer mine.
So long Texas hello mexico
I'm gonna swim the Rio Grande at El Paso
I'm leavin tonight I ain't gonna pack
I'm only takin the clothes on my back
So long Texas hello mexico
Yep, turnabouts fair play "
Lodian wrote on Nov 24, 2008 4:52 PM:
Brittanicus wrote on Nov 24, 2008 2:11 PM:
START THE BALL ROLLING--TELL YOUR CALIFORNIA FRIENDS AND FAMILY!
Start the push to stop SANCTUARY CITIES and STATES, beginning with LOS ANGELES, California. Sign the petition for JAMIEL'S LAW, to stop local government, corrupt politicians in collusion with special interest groups. Go here and become a patriot and stop once and for all the slaughter by illegal alien gang members, criminals and drunk drivers on our streets and highways. Go to www.jamielslaw.com.) Sgt. Anita Shaw believes that this struggle has to do with more than her sons memory; that she has in fact come home from one war on terror in Iraq to fight another one on the streets of America where the stakes are equally high. The costs of $1.trillion dollars yearly is appalling to subsidize parasite businesses.
Her son was murdered by an illegal alien gang member in LA, as was the 3 Bolgna family members with a AK 47 weapon in San Francisco where refuge for illegal foreign nationals thrive? Thousands of others throughout this country have died at "
T & C wrote on Nov 24, 2008 8:44 AM:
http://www.illegalaliens.us/ "
T & C wrote on Nov 24, 2008 8:40 AM:
http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html "
T & C wrote on Nov 24, 2008 8:38 AM:
T C wrote on Nov 24, 2008 8:35 AM:
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2006/03/california_pris_1.php "
wtf wrote on Nov 24, 2008 7:34 AM:
I don't know about the stepped-up enforcement part; however, **if** illegal immigration is down in large part due to sucky U.S. economy, this tells me that a BIG part of the problem are greedy U.S. corporations who don't want to pay a fair wage.
Illegal Immigration Declines In America
http://cbs13.com/national/Illegal.Immigration.Declines.2.831040.html "
wtf wrote on Nov 24, 2008 7:33 AM:
Someone said they work without a union; it seems to me they work are far below minimum wage as well - which is criminal - and of course no American worker would work at these rates. Still, given currency fluctuation and the economy in Mexico at the time, the little paid here might have gone a long way in Mexico.
Everything is relative. "
wtf wrote on Nov 24, 2008 7:22 AM:
wtf wrote on Nov 24, 2008 7:21 AM:
I was more than willing to give Obama a chance, and still am, to an extent; however, when I come across things like the following:
Geithner Likely to be Treasury Secretary
Geithner has been a key player in the current economic crisis -- helping Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and his team manage the wall street bailout.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/21/1685124.aspx
I am **not** re-assured. As for mentioning Ron Paul, I will continue to mention his name because he is still maintaining his Campaign for Liberty.
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/
Furthermore, you say: "We're sick of his name by now."
Interesting, so you speak for everyone else now, do you? "
Gator wrote on Nov 24, 2008 7:01 AM:
mainframe wrote on Nov 24, 2008 12:44 AM:
" wtf wrote on Nov 23, 2008 1:32 PM:
" To Gator regarding your post on Nov 23, 2008 10:32 AM
Hunhhh???? " Man thats deep!!!! "
Hey Gator: I didn't get it either man. "
Election Year wrote on Nov 24, 2008 12:26 AM:
Yes, we need to protect our borders, both North and South. But our government (and others) know the real reason this is not happening....we need these people for economic reasons. The "push and pull" of Mexican immigration since the late 1800's is deeply tied to our economy. When we need them...Fine. When we don't...Let's round them up and deport them. Our government dictates who comes and goes and what benefits they get. The loudest (corporate) voices speak. "
Gator wrote on Nov 23, 2008 9:56 PM:
" To Gator regarding your post on Nov 23, 2008 10:32 AM
Hunhhh???? " Man thats deep!!!! "
alodivoter wrote on Nov 23, 2008 9:42 PM:
alodivoter wrote on Nov 23, 2008 9:40 PM:
peppier2 wrote on Nov 23, 2008 8:05 PM:
wtf wrote on Nov 23, 2008 7:41 PM:
Here's an idea and the GOP needs a facelift.....
Hey, Ron Paul Republicans!?! It's Time For A GOP Palace Coup!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/hey-ron-paul-republicans_b_145745.html
This is something for you, Cogito.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7867 "
Cogito wrote on Nov 23, 2008 2:42 PM:
wtf wrote on Nov 23, 2008 1:32 PM:
Hunhhh???? "
wtf wrote on Nov 23, 2008 1:22 PM:
JFK issued $4.5Billion Greenbacks without interest via EO11110 and LBJ serving the Federal Reserve Banking Scam had them collected. There is no plausible reason to charge interest on currency we never borrowed. The Federal Reserve Bank's assets should be confiscated, all officer jailed, phony debt set aside because of fraud and the $500Billion annual interest payments used to restart the American economy. This can all be done with a single stroke of the pen. It's a must action needed to restore America without a single syllable of debated. "
wtf wrote on Nov 23, 2008 12:56 PM:
Same as the old boss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5yymadwxj8
Lyrics:
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Won%27t-Get-Fooled-Again-lyrics-The-Who/761EF79AAB42FA9C48256977002E72F9
Now, open the first link and listen to it; then open another browser and click on the following link.
This Is Change? 20 Hawks, Clintonites and Neocons to Watch for in Obama's White House
http://www.alternet.org/audits/107666/this_is_change_20_hawks,_clintonites_and_neocons_to_watch_for_in_obama%27s_white_house/?page=entire "
Gator wrote on Nov 23, 2008 10:32 AM:
wtf wrote on Nov 23, 2008 10:26 AM:
Fact is the only 'change' this election has brought has been the skin color of the prez; with the Clinton crowd working with him, it will be business as usual.
Anyone see a pattern here?
Oh, and girard, please don't speak for me. You wrote, "In spite of what we think of those "we" put into office..."
I know you used quotations, but **I** did not vote for any of these scumbags and do not need you speaking for me regarding the election of these slimeballs; nor do I need you speaking "to" me....who are you? "
wtf wrote on Nov 23, 2008 10:23 AM:
lodisafeway you amaze me. Sometimes your self-important pontificating actually makes some sense....like now.
You are exactly right.
Reagan with Bush Sr. lurking in the background - round one
Reagan with Bush Sr. lurking in the background - round two
Bush Sr. steps out of the shadows and into the light - only lasted one round
Clinton - Bush Sr. Bobsey Twin - round one
Clinton - Bush Sr. Bobsey Twin - round two
Bush Jr. - Bush Sr. lurking in the background - round one
Bush Jr. - Bush Sr. lurking in the background - round two "
Gator wrote on Nov 23, 2008 9:37 AM:
Is about immigration and the total lack of any control over it..Its about people who come here illegally and then think they have the right to stay and we owe it to them let them stay!! We owe it to them to send them home
PDQThey cost billions in health care, they overwhelm our hospitals, schools and prisons and foster crime with their gangs and it cost every one of us in the taxes we pay!!! And I will say it again, we need to shut down all
Immigration for at least 5 yearsLastly every illegal is a slap in the face to a legal immigrant who waited in line for years to come here!! "
doctoroctopus wrote on Nov 23, 2008 9:14 AM:
OTH wrote on Nov 23, 2008 7:31 AM:
This a little off topic but every problem CA had when they recalled Davis is still here only twice as bad. His term can't end fast enough. "
lodisafeway wrote on Nov 22, 2008 11:21 PM:
What's going to happen when these types of name-distortions are conferred upon the new president? Oh, the outcry will be fast and furious. Much like Al Sharpton's indignation over Al-Qaeda's recent remarks referring to Obama as a "house negro." Never mind he had no qualms about people referring to Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice in the same way - but now that Obama's in the cross-hairs of such stupidity and silliness, he becomes incensed. But I really don't expect much more from the likes of Reverend Sharpton.
I'm all for free speech - so go ahead and continue if you want; just know that it makes those who behave this way appear nothing more than moronic. "
lodisafeway wrote on Nov 22, 2008 11:09 PM:
But even more than that was a Congress (you know, the guys who actually create the laws) who have done little, if anything to halt the problem when it was at least manageable. Now with so many illegal aliens here it appears to be almost impossible to get rid of them - but this is precisely what we must do.
Any granting of amnesty will be simply wrong; and We the People must find a way to get that message through to the new president and the new congress "if" they decide it's actually time to fix the problem. Once we cave into the idea of wholesale lawlessness, where will that end? How will anyone take our laws seriously when we won't enforce them?
First - REALLY secure the borders; not just pay lip service to the idea. Then, get 'em out! One-by-one; two-by-two - for as long as it takes. No one should be immune. "
Lodian wrote on Nov 22, 2008 9:55 PM:
" But it is more than just Hispanic people who are invading...I mean Bushco has let in virtually anyone. Don't believe me? Look at this.
http://www.sonypictures.com/homevideo/zombiestrippers/
Don't let the campy, sleazy, b-grade appearance fool you....Bush, Cheney, the whole gang are behind this one and plan on leaving it for Obama. "
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You're silly! LOL! ;-) "
wtf wrote on Nov 22, 2008 9:39 PM:
You got that right! Hmmmm..... I wonder.... are we better off now than when we recalled Davis?
NOT! "
wtf wrote on Nov 22, 2008 8:52 PM:
US officials flunk test of Amerian history, economics, civics
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081120/od_afp/ushistoryeducationoffbeat
Here's the report
http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/2008/additional_finding.html
And for those who are game, here's the quiz
http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx "
OTH wrote on Nov 22, 2008 8:26 PM:
There are a lot of little brown gooey piles that will be left for Obama. We can't get that little troll out of Washington fast enough. The same with Mumblenegger as governer. "
OTH wrote on Nov 22, 2008 8:24 PM:
This has been a number of years ago and their policies may have changed. He was all gung ho to go and got shot down. "
Gator wrote on Nov 22, 2008 8:24 PM:
Saw this report on a young man from Rumania.. He was being questioned on his sponsor, a young woman who had been in New Zealand for 7 years. He was asked if he knew her before, he said no!! after about an hour he admitted he met her on a trip to England.. They said wait here, when the
Immigration officer came back they took the man up-stairs to wait for a
Flight back to Rumania( deported on the spot) later it was reported they deported the woman also. They dont mess around!!! "
wtf wrote on Nov 22, 2008 8:17 PM:
http://www.sonypictures.com/homevideo/zombiestrippers/
Don't let the campy, sleazy, b-grade appearance fool you....Bush, Cheney, the whole gang are behind this one and plan on leaving it for Obama. "
pat maple wrote on Nov 22, 2008 7:11 PM:
pat maple wrote on Nov 22, 2008 6:59 PM:
peppier2 wrote on Nov 22, 2008 6:40 PM:
lodisafeway wrote on Nov 22, 2008 5:38 PM:
Speaking about Hispanics, Caucasians, Africans, Italians or any other hyphenated American cannot always be regarded as racist. That notion is profoundly ridiculous. Likewise, I believe all hyphens should be eliminated when discussing American citizens. That one little punctuation mark goes a long way to dividing this nation than anything else in the English language. "
sam wrote on Nov 22, 2008 5:16 PM:
lodisafeway wrote on Nov 22, 2008 4:51 PM:
Their interference in our movements on their site does however, indicate a problem. Because they aren't comfortable with the direction of the discourse I suppose this is their way of making themselves feel better. I really don't know. Had they eliminated the ability to respond to ALL articles/letters/editorials, at least there would be some level of consistency with their actions. As it stands, unless there were violations of their forum policies and rules (as they are published to the right of the dialogue box each time we submit our opinions), I don't understand their motives. Perhaps they would care to enlighten us?
If there were violations, they should have addressed them one-by-one as they occurred and either suspended or ejected the violators from further contributions. Absent that, they should have simply shut down their entire system. Of course these are just my opinions (although I don't really believe I needed to add that little caveat). "
OTH wrote on Nov 22, 2008 3:35 PM:
He had money but it was his age that kept him out. He died a multi-millionaire but at the time he wanted to immigrate that's the only reaon they gave him. He had a friend who lived there and they wanted to start a business. "
doctoroctopus wrote on Nov 22, 2008 3:02 PM:
Feisty wrote on Nov 22, 2008 12:42 PM:
documents and interior signage. It was touted as a way for incoming immigrants to transition into "English". I honestly believed that would be great way to help would-be citizens get with the program. After all these years, it simply promotes seperatism. My great-grand parents immigrated from Italy, when they got to America, they were very proud to call themselves Americans. they immersed themselves into the culture. They insisted that the children be good citizens and speak only english. Coming to the U.S. should mean trying to assimilate into our culture. "
sam wrote on Nov 22, 2008 12:09 PM:
They take care of their citizens and do not want a bunch of broke, retired people moving to Australia living off of their system.
I agree with them 100%. "
Mazie wrote on Nov 22, 2008 12:08 PM:
lodisafeway wrote on Nov 22, 2008 12:01 PM:
Or could it be that someone finally got through to them with the use of facts and common sense? Even if this might be true, I wouldn't count on that sentiment remaining intact too long after January 20th, 2009.
However, if you have singularly been successful with this hot topic, perhaps an editorial or two on other politically-difficult-to-discuss issues might be in the offing; say, Proposition 8? But since the LNS has ceased permitting any comments whatsoever to be posted on that subject by us lowly bloggers, we might never find out if your journalistic skills might work there as well. "
OTH wrote on Nov 22, 2008 11:32 AM:
Is Australia the same as New Zealand on immigration? My sister-in-laws father wanted to go to Australia when he retired. They told him he was too old, that their was a cutoff age. "
Mazie wrote on Nov 22, 2008 10:36 AM:
wtf wrote on Nov 22, 2008 10:29 AM:
http://cbs13.com/national/Illegal.Immigration.Declines.2.831040.html
The numbers from the Census Bureau seem to hold up what you say
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html
But the question then becomes, could this be due to expectations?
http://www.latinalista.net/palabrafinal/2008/07/californias_high_dropout_rates_of_latino.html
The Pygmalion Effect coined as a result of a study by Rosenthal and Jacobson shows that expectations can affect performance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmalion_effect
http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Quantum_physics_and_the_evolution_of_human_consciousness.html
Finally, I think it's pretty neat how you've engaged the readers, Joe. "
wtf wrote on Nov 22, 2008 10:29 AM:
One thing you forgot to cover Joe was that a lot of illegal immigrants come to the U.S. because they are hired by cheap business types. So a big part of the problem are companies that don't want to pay a decent wage and encourage illegal immigration.
I think you covered Sanctuary Cities before T&C, here's a link to some more.
http://www.sanctuarycities.info/sanctuary_state_maryland.htm "
Bry wrote on Nov 22, 2008 10:18 AM:
Gator wrote on Nov 22, 2008 9:59 AM:
by Victor Davis Hanson.. I defy anyone to call it racist, it just tells it
like it is "
jramagic wrote on Nov 22, 2008 9:39 AM:
a) End the absurd "Anchor Baby" laws.
b) Heavily fine and rigorously prosecute
employers of illegal aliens.
c) Rigorously enforce current immigration laws that are already in the law books and implement rigorus border enforcement.
d) Create an implement a fair program for foreign workers to do needed work in the USA doing specified jobs...and force them to leave when the job ends.
e) Create a path to citizenship for foreign workers who work and don't break laws...and toss out the rest, STAT. "
ra wrote on Nov 22, 2008 9:03 AM:
patricia wrote on Nov 22, 2008 8:21 AM:
Thank you for reviewing the history of how the U.S. came to acquire California legitimately. Very few people remember that part of history, because some were never, and still are not, taught the facts in school.
And I agree, unless things change, America will cease to be America, as we know it.
Maybe we can migrate to Mexico and make it the new America, when all of the habitants have come here. "
Gator wrote on Nov 22, 2008 8:10 AM:
Immigration laws enforced??? If a person sneaks in and gets caught, home
they go, period. Where do people get off saying we owe these illegals anything except a fast ride back to where they came from. Lets talk about
Canada, A friend of mine moved up to Dawson Creek to go to work for BC Hydro. After a ton of paper work and a few interviews he was told he had to
Have 10,000 in the bank and sign that he wouldnt go on government help
For a year, he is still there 38 years later and now holds dual citizenship
How about New Zealand, you DONT get in if you dont have a needed skill or can be a benefit to the country. If you mess up you are deported on the spotTell me why do we have to be a patsy for these illegals I say
Close the door to all immigration for a least 5 years!!! "
T & C wrote on Nov 22, 2008 8:06 AM:
T & C wrote on Nov 22, 2008 7:59 AM:
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