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Obama's temperament shift is not confusing


Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:18 AM PST

Nov. 7 headlines were astonishing. Only liberals and goofballs like Attorney General Jerry Brown can get confused by the words of Proposition 8: "Only" means only and "valid" means valid.

So, notwithstanding their misplaced moral outrage that the majority of Californians want marriage protected, homosexuals need to be content with the identical rights of civil unions and learn to accept the will of the people.

On a separate and also astonishing note, why is it even newsworthy that the no-experience, never-take-a-stand socialist who will soon be sworn in as our president is now changing his stripes from "almost post-partisan" to surrounding himself with "fiery partisans" and "tough partisan in-fighters?" While I, unlike my liberal friends, have accepted the will of the people, the transparency of Mr. Obama's "shift in temperament" is not at all confusing. Those of us paying attention to anything other than his empty "change" rhetoric saw this coming.

Mark Washburn
Lodi

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Lodian wrote on Nov 21, 2008 9:22 AM:

" Oops... "free" enterprise. LOL! "

Lodian wrote on Nov 21, 2008 9:21 AM:

" Never is a strong word, Brian. And Obama hasn't even been sworn is as your president yet. On the other hand, we've all had a good look at Bush. A grueling 8 year look. Any comments I've made about the Bush administration still stand. You and T & C seem to rather want to talk about being irritated with book sales and begrudge fire enterprise. To each his own. "

Brian wrote on Nov 21, 2008 7:35 AM:

" Lodian wrote on Nov 19, 2008 11:58 AM:

" Brian: Yes, you (and T & C) have shown here that you take issue with Obama's best selling books. Seems like you guys are jealous or something and begrudge Obama his best sellers. Yep, that's free enterprise and you have a problem with it. Are you now taking back your derogatory comments about Obama's success? Have you read the books? "


-I would never take back anything derogatory I said about Obama.

I doubt you would take back anything derogatory you said about Bush. "

real facts wrote on Nov 20, 2008 10:19 PM:

" good, because now your going to FINALLY realize the full circle for what you pull in here, thinking you could do it at will.

as far as i go, i WELCOMED rich hanner to anything he wants to ask me or throw my way based on my verbage and presence in these blogs.

i told him, that based on the fairness in life factor, that he can ban ME if i have done something wrong in these blogs, and a man that actually HAS, wouldn't court that possibility.

the truth is after the dust settles, is i will be standing, and if they keep their word on future infractions by you, you will reside in blog oblivion, for which you earned your OWN "ticket"

the truth about you is that even still, your false pride tells you the opposite of what your posture "should be" while pending

despite the promise of a possibility boot to the curb over your lying about people being the "same person" handle wise, what's your FIRST MOVE.....to lie some more with you lying about me being "edumacation"

you-get-what-you-deserve,....and-your-game-is-OVER "

Lodian wrote on Nov 20, 2008 3:48 PM:

" 'they are "looking into it"'

That's a good thing. I welcome it with open arms. You bully, berate, stalk and attack and then cry the victim. The LNS will know this about your behavior here and elsewhere... unless of course you have fed them false information. We'll see.

Have a nice day. "

Lodian wrote on Nov 20, 2008 3:37 PM:

" Hi! :-) "

real facts wrote on Nov 20, 2008 11:59 AM:

" hey brian, did you witness the goings on in the "gays in limbo" blog where lodian couldn't control herself, and once again said that you and i were the same person?

she did it at least 3 times IN THAT BLOG

do you remember the LNS coming into these blogs and warning her that the NEXT TIME she did that, they would suspend her?

even after the threat of that happening over the last 2 days, lodian STILL lied about me and 2 other bloggers being the same person

that nasty woman can't control her lying about people, and getting kicked out won't even slow her down

anyway, in short order, lodian get's kicked to the curb, as i just got an email that stated they are "looking into it"

just thought i would let you know, seeing how YOU were the target of lodians INCESSANT lies about people "

Lodian wrote on Nov 19, 2008 11:58 AM:

" Brian: Yes, you (and T & C) have shown here that you take issue with Obama's best selling books. Seems like you guys are jealous or something and begrudge Obama his best sellers. Yep, that's free enterprise and you have a problem with it. Are you now taking back your derogatory comments about Obama's success? Have you read the books? "

Lodian wrote on Nov 19, 2008 11:52 AM:

" Brian wrote "It must be hard for her, given she feels so superior to all of us"
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No, just superior to you, Brian (just kidding of course!). LOL! ;-) "

Leonard wrote on Nov 19, 2008 11:16 AM:

" Brian wrote on Nov 19, 2008 4:53 AM:

Obama got elected. The system worked. Oh, Obama will try to lessen free enterprise with his agenda. It won't happen. So, how I can have a problem with free enterprise when McCain would have been much more likely to insure that free enterprise will stay the way it is here in America, I just don't know where you are coming from.


What, the word irony isn't in your dictionary? "

Brian wrote on Nov 19, 2008 5:03 AM:

" Lodian wrote: I know. Sometimes I don't know whether to be irritated with Brian or feel bad for him, like one would feel bad for a struggling child.

-Lodian always feels better when she can make condescending remarks. If thats what it takes for her to get an ego boost...to each his own. Or her.

I do always get a chuckle when she infers that she has to tolerate some people just to get along. It must be hard for her, given she feels so superior to all of us, to walk down the street and not puke from all the stupidity. "

Brian wrote on Nov 19, 2008 4:53 AM:

" Lodian wrote: Brian: Nope, don't think it was sarcasm from T & C. I may be wrong, but it sure sounds like you two Republicans are having a problem with free enterprise. "

-Lodian, do you ever read what you write?

Obama got elected. The system worked. Oh, Obama will try to lessen free enterprise with his agenda. It won't happen. So, how I can have a problem with free enterprise when McCain would have been much more likely to insure that free enterprise will stay the way it is here in America, I just don't know where you are coming from. "

Lodian wrote on Nov 19, 2008 1:18 AM:

" Brian wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:41 PM:

" Lodian wrote: Oh, Brian. You're having a hard time with comprehension again. Have you been following the conversation? The best sellers from other people was not the point. T & C thinks Obama wanted to become our president so as to sell more books. Do you agree with T & C? "

-Lodian, It's sarcasm and seriousness all in one. You don't think Obama will sell more books now? He's an opportunist just like everyone else. "
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Brian: Nope, don't think it was sarcasm from T & C. I may be wrong, but it sure sounds like you two Republicans are having a problem with free enterprise. "

Brian wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:41 PM:

" Lodian wrote: Oh, Brian. You're having a hard time with comprehension again. Have you been following the conversation? The best sellers from other people was not the point. T & C thinks Obama wanted to become our president so as to sell more books. Do you agree with T & C? "

-Lodian, It's sarcasm and seriousness all in one. You don't think Obama will sell more books now? He's an opportunist just like everyone else. "

Lodian wrote on Nov 18, 2008 10:23 AM:

" sam wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:17 AM:

" Poor Brian. "

I know. Sometimes I don't know whether to be irritated with Brian or feel bad for him, like one would feel bad for a struggling child. "

sam wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:17 AM:

" Poor Brian. "

Lodian wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:13 AM:

" Brian wrote on Nov 18, 2008 7:32 AM:

" Lodian, What else qualifies him to be President because you say so? "
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Yep, that's it, Brian. Obama is president now because I said so. LOL! No one else voted for him. Is this like a riddle for you, Brian? "

Lodian wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:11 AM:

" Brian wrote on Nov 18, 2008 7:30 AM:

" Lodian wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:13 AM:

" FYI, Obama's books were best sellers BEFORE he was elected as our next president. "

-So what! Many other people have best selling books. That doesn't make them qualified to be President either. "
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Oh, Brian. You're having a hard time with comprehension again. Have you been following the conversation? The best sellers from other people was not the point. T & C thinks Obama wanted to become our president so as to sell more books. Do you agree with T & C? "

Brian wrote on Nov 18, 2008 7:35 AM:

" Lodian wrote: Have you read Obama's book(s)? I bet you can find it at Wal-Mart the next time you stop in for a gallon of milk.

When reality takes it's grip on Obama you'll be able to find his books for 10 cents at a rummage sale in the dozens. "

Brian wrote on Nov 18, 2008 7:32 AM:

" Lodian, What else qualifies him to be President because you say so? "

Brian wrote on Nov 18, 2008 7:30 AM:

" Lodian wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:13 AM:

" FYI, Obama's books were best sellers BEFORE he was elected as our next president. "

-So what! Many other people have best selling books. That doesn't make them qualified to be President either. "

lowdiewhine wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:33 AM:

" ...before her flame goes out. "

lowdiewhine wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:32 AM:

" T&C, well here ya go. Your #1 chick, Palin, is trying to get a book written and published this month about herself to make some money on her "flash in the pan" stardom. "

Lodian wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:13 AM:

" FYI, Obama's books were best sellers BEFORE he was elected as our next president. "

GFlossmann wrote on Nov 15, 2008 6:56 PM:

" lowdiewhine, you said it. I swear T&C and girard74 are the same. They both have that pathetic, loser whine. "

Lodian wrote on Nov 14, 2008 10:17 PM:

" T & C wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:36 PM:

" Lodian... "you got it all wrong"! I would NEVER have a grudge against any person who is an important figure "Using their position in Government to increase their Book royalty checks" by Millions and Millions of dollars! It is the american dream to get wealthy by any means possible! Please readers, BUY all of Clinton and Obama's books! "


Yep, you begrudge the man writing a book that sells. Or maybe you just begrudge his ability to write well. I don't know. It's a free country. You can write a book anytime you like. Well, you are "free" to try and write a book anyway. There's no guarantee that you "can" write. Go ahead and give it a try. Have you read Obama's book(s)? I bet you can find it at Wal-Mart the next time you stop in for a gallon of milk. "

lowdiewhine wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:46 PM:

" T&C, whine, whine, whine. Go get drunk and get over it. "

T & C wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:41 PM:

" Cogito... I am glad you are looking at the "Clinton era without "Rose colored glasses on"! Trust me, "Obama will repay Hillary for her power of the hispanic vote on his behalf, and he WILL make her Secretary of State! All that's left now, is a "Special Department" for "Slick Willie"! After all, "He has a book out too in need of an increase in SALES!

http://www.randomhouse.com/knopf/clinton/

These politician's are "COUNTING" on each one of you who VOTED Democrat to ORDER a copy of their books before Christmas! Be a loyal American and HELP OUR Economy, Order your copies today! "

T & C wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:36 PM:

" Lodian... "you got it all wrong"! I would NEVER have a grudge against any person who is an important figure "Using their position in Government to increase their Book royalty checks" by Millions and Millions of dollars! It is the american dream to get wealthy by any means possible! Please readers, BUY all of Clinton and Obama's books! "

sam wrote on Nov 14, 2008 2:56 PM:

" T&C, I actually bought his Audio Book 2 years ago when it first came out. You should listen to it. It is worth the money.

You sound so jealous of the man because he is talented enough to MAKE money. This is the United States of America. Go write your own book and make some money. You might love it. "

Leonard wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:59 AM:

" Hmmm... another hit and run post from Jerome Kinderman. I love the way this guy never refers to anyone by their name or moniker.

Come on Jerome. Be a man, have the courage to address your comments directly. "

Cogito wrote on Nov 14, 2008 7:56 AM:

" Election year, the 911 terrorists moved here and began their planning under Clinton's watch. The Cole and Embassy terrorist bombings happened during Clinton's presidency. The Syrians offered Bin Laden to Clinton, he refused. Just a few facts. Since 911 we have not been attacked. Lets see if Obama can keep it going. "

t jefferson wrote on Nov 14, 2008 6:22 AM:

" in the last paragraph make that was into a wasn't.... "

t jefferson wrote on Nov 14, 2008 5:48 AM:

" EY - since up until the last year the economy was roaring along and this collapse can be laid at the feet of decisions made 14 years and 9 years ago I don't think the lens of history will singularly blame the bush administration. In 50 years (if there still is a US) people will look back and wonder what the heck was going on at the turn of the century? Heck the great BO may get the blame just like Hoover did for the great depression. (Hint it wasn't his fault - look at FDR).
As far as attacks, yes it did happen on a Republicans watch and the response made sure it was going to happen again. Well there is a new sheriff in town and he will be tested. I hope he is up for the task, but I kind of doubt. Never ask "Can it get worse?", the answer is "Yes it can!!!" "

Election Year wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:02 AM:

" t jefferson at 5:29am - perhaps you should think of it as an attempt to correct the mistakes of the Cheney administration of the last eight years rather than "paybacks." I don't even blame poor GW anymore...he's too stupid to even realize that he really wasn't in control all this time.

And most of all, I think the last terrorist attack occured on the Republican watch...and look how that turned out. 3000 dead civilians and thousands more in military personnel dead and severely wounded and maimed for life. How much worse could it get? "

Election Year wrote on Nov 14, 2008 3:50 AM:

" T & C at 8:16 - I think that your "non-bi-partisan" comment cancelled itself out. Perhaps you meant his "bipartisan" promises. Get a dictionary. Maybe that will clear up a lot of your misconceptions and hostility. "

Lodian wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:14 AM:

" T & C: Why do you begrudge the man his book sales? "

Lodian wrote on Nov 14, 2008 1:13 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:30 PM:

" Jeff, I was simply trying to make a point. The people have spoken with their votes. Everything approved by the people has the same validity, despite our objections. For the record, I voted NO on 8. "

I knew my instincts were right about you. ;-) "

Cogito wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:30 PM:

" Jeff, I was simply trying to make a point. The people have spoken with their votes. Everything approved by the people has the same validity, despite our objections. For the record, I voted NO on 8. "

jeff wrote on Nov 13, 2008 2:07 PM:

" So let me get this right, T & C... Obama being elected president was nothing more than an ad campaign so he could sell more books and, in turn, make more money.

Right. "

T & C wrote on Nov 13, 2008 1:42 PM:

" MARZO2008: "If you were trying to IMPLY that President Obama "WILL NOT" make MILLIONS of dollars in royalties from his three books from Global sales"...your thoughts are falling on "Deaf ears"! What is the difference I ask between DEMO Corporate greed and Obama's Millions from Book sales? Now if you can show me one major news site that shows he is "Donating his Royalties to "Worthy organizations"..."For the people" I will recant this post! Otherwise, he is NO DIFFERENT then anyone else..."OUT TO MAKE MONEY FOR HIMSELF"!

http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2008-11-11-obama-sales_N.htm

Win or lose, he would have sold millions of copies but because he WON, it will be MILLIONS MORE in his pocket! "

MARZO2008 wrote on Nov 13, 2008 12:31 PM:

" T & C


Do your part as a American and let Obama do his. Bush did nothing for this country but waste time in the war which could have been over years ago. And did nothing for our jobs in the USA. As far as pro 8. Be done with it, we already voted (yes on 8). live with it people. It's truly has nothing to do with the church or being misunderstood. It has to do with being right from wrong. And they know that it's wrong. "

MARZO2008 wrote on Nov 13, 2008 12:25 PM:

" T&C

" Democrats DO NOT want a "Checks & Balance form of government! They want to control the presidency, Senate and House! It has been said that President Obama is already making preparations for 2012 Re-Election and he isn't even in office yet. Get those "Debit cards ready folks, and donate, donate and donate millions "Under the table" just like what happened this election! Do whatever it takes to keep control of the White House! "

If you knew what you were talking about then you would make sense. We can clearly see that you don't think. Do you think that bush or (if) mccain made things better for us. NO!!!!!! we can clearly see that not only did mccain lose !!!!!! but got the boot!!!! "

dogs4you wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:50 AM:

" Most if not all of the posts are going against Obama, rightfully so. 2012 can`t come soon enough, get a very big garbage can and clean out the White House and start over. He hasn`t taken office yet and talk of paybacks will hurry his departure. "

jeff wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:44 AM:

" haha. i believe i made it explicitly clear what my post was RE:

As far as our president-elect, I was very cautious, and not quick to jump on any bandwagons. If you're familiar with my past posts, I'm against the Dem/Rep duopoly.

I am very encouregad by the president-elect explicitly re-affirming that the executive branch, just like the other two, are subservient to the US Constitution. The current administration has been competing with said document.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2008_government_manual&docid=214669tx_xxx-3.pdf "

Cogito wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:19 AM:

" Jeff, you referring to the presidential election? "

jeff wrote on Nov 13, 2008 10:08 AM:

" Re: 'homosexuals need to be content with the identical rights of civil unions and learn to accept the will of the people.'

See: separate, but equal.

Just because the majority of people want something, doesn't make it right. "

T & C wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:26 AM:

" Democrats DO NOT want a "Checks & Balance form of government! They want to control the presidency, Senate and House! It has been said that President Obama is already making preparations for 2012 Re-Election and he isn't even in office yet. Get those "Debit cards ready folks, and donate, donate and donate millions "Under the table" just like what happened this election! Do whatever it takes to keep control of the White House! "

t jefferson wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:24 AM:

" LITP - right, right, right....we'll see what happens...no hate, just fear that BO will do what he says he will do. Do you even know what he says he will do? Not campaign promises, those are ALL lies (from both side), I am talking about his background. Bigger govt, higher taxes, redistribution of wealth, removal of private property rights, outright banning of firearms, removal of freedom of speech, removal of the right to work, etc. "

T & C wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:23 AM:

" t jefferson wrote on Nov 13, 2008 5:29 AM: "I hope to god that the terrorists don't decide that the US needs a little payback while the great BO is in office."

For some odd reason, the liberals who will begin dismantaling The Patriot ct after January 20, 2009, "Don't seem a bit worried about another 9-11 attack on America! President Obama will use his smooth tone voice make all the terrorists suddenly become our friends, and he can then "Cut our military defense budget by 50% and move those funds over to the Welfare Program budget!" Another terrorist attack on President Obama's watch? That will never happen! 50 Million voters can't be wrong! In the meantime Obama supporters, never let a republican tell you that President Obama has used his election to earn millions from his three books!

http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2008-11-11-obama-sales_N.htm

Just keep telling yourself, USAToday is lying!

Please buy one of his books, or, better, all three! They will make the perfect Christmas gift! "

T & C wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:16 AM:

" I have noticed in the media How our new president has been surrounding himself with Staff who think EXACTLY as he does, not the Non-Bi-Partisan staff he promoted to the voters before and after his election! Am I surprised? NO! "

t jefferson wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:16 AM:

" L - had to do it, just had to.... "

loadeye wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:14 AM:

" Leonard, I smell the fear of the hatemongers that maybe there'll be a real change in our leadership and their party is crumbling. Those who spread this hatred are the reason Obama won in a landslide. Hey, boys and girls, you lost badly. Now it's your turn to get over it. 8 years of GW Bush have made the US the laughing stock of the world. It's time for all of us to come together and bring respect back to the USA under our new leader, Barack Obama. "

t jefferson wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:13 AM:

" L - I feel your profound guilt and self loathing....hate too.... "

t jefferson wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:12 AM:

" L - perception is everything...one persons hate is another persons truth and vice-versa. Ergo, I could say the same thing about almost everyone of your posts, but class and restraint is a halmark of a conservative, unlike other policial opinions which are more based on feeling and knee jerk reactions. "

lodisafeway wrote on Nov 13, 2008 8:12 AM:

" Once again (and I suppose for the duration of the Obama Presidency) any dissention or criticism of this president will be automatically met with accusations of "hatred" and/or "racism." Of course this is not at all surprising.

Those who now insist that President Obama be given a chance and as even one well-meaning (but terribly hypocritical) fellow suggested that I have an "open mind" regarding what this man intends to do, I wonder where was this same consideration for George W. Bush who was vilified and pilloried from the very moment he won the election in 2000.

I wonder what an "open mind" would consist of to satisfy those who really have no idea who Obama is or what he is capable of doing. As I have always maintained, it is what he said he will do that presents the roadblock for such open-minded acceptance of his presidency. Our system of government was designed to be adversarial- this is how we keep things in check. For those of us who vehemently oppose the ideas and policies set forth by Obama, we will be there at every turn voicing our opposition through words, speech and our vote. "

Leonard wrote on Nov 13, 2008 7:46 AM:

" TJ... I feel your hate. "

Leonard wrote on Nov 13, 2008 7:46 AM:

" On a separate and also astonishing note, why is it even newsworthy that the no-experience, never-take-a-stand socialist who will soon be sworn in as our president is now changing his stripes from "almost post-partisan" to surrounding himself with "fiery partisans" and "tough partisan in-fighters?"

Umm... I think a President elects choices for his transition team have always been news worthy.

I did a google search on the subject and I found an article on Herbert Hoover's choices from the 20's.

Perhaps Mr. Washburn's perspective would benefit from a brief study of history. "

t jefferson wrote on Nov 13, 2008 5:29 AM:

" As I've said before, for most people democracy only works when they get what they want. e.g. for liberals - gay marriage, for religious conservative - abortion ban, for state worker unions - more money, for welfare recipients - more money.

as far as obama - of course he is going to be a partisan liberal - it's payback time - the unions need payback, the welfare voters need payback, the softskulls in large cities need payback, and most of all the conservatives need payback, because they messed up the liberals housing fantasy plan. I hope to god that the terrorists don't decide that the US needs a little payback while the great BO is in office. "

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