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Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar and their 17 children are stars of the The Learning Channel television show "17 Kids and Counting." The family will be speaking at The Home Church in Lodi today and Sunday. (Courtesy photo)

Meet the Duggars

Family with 17 children, who star in reality show, coming to Lodi today

By Ross Farrow
News-Sentinel Staff Writer
Saturday, November 1, 2008 5:53 AM PDT

Can you imagine having 17 children with No. 18 on the way?

Well, you can meet the mother who gave birth to 17 children, and her husband who helped make it possible, today and Sunday at The Home Church in south Lodi.

Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar are an Arkansas couple who star in the reality TV series "17 Kids and Counting," which airs on The Learning Channel.

"You're invited to see how they raise all those children — house guidelines, child training, organization tips, family finances, courtship and more," said Pastor Tim Pollock of The Home Church.

The Duggars have an amazing story. Married in 1984, Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar used birth control until they were ready and had enough money to have children, according to the family Web site. Michelle eventually went back on the pill, but became pregnant anyway and had a miscarriage. A Christian doctor told them that taking the pill can cause miscarriages.

The couple were heartbroken because of their strong Christian and pro-life feelings. They asked God to forgive them for using the pill. Then they prayed for God to bless them with as many children as he saw fit.

In answer to their prayers, Michelle Duggar will soon give birth to her 18th child. They have 10 boys and seven girls. No. 18 is due in January.

As a family project, the Duggars built a 7000-square-foot home debt free despite having to feed and clothe 17 children.

Jim Bob Duggar served in the Arkansas House of Representatives from 1999 to 2003 and was a U.S. Senate candidate in 2002.

To find out how they keep sanity in such a large household, meet the Duggars at The Home Church this weekend or visit www.duggarfamily.com.

The Duggars at a glance

  • The Duggars are evangelical Christians who follow in the Baptist tradition.
  • Jim Bob has worked in real estate as an agent and investor for more than 25 years. The family also owns a cell phone tower.
  • Michelle has been pregnant for more than 135 months (and counting) of her life.
  • Average number of months between Duggar births is 18.
  • Estimated number of Duggar diapers to date is 90,000.
  • The Duggars do approximately 200 loads of laundry each month.
  • The Duggars feed their entire brood for less than $2,000 per month.
  • The only person in the Duggar family whose name doesn't start with "J" is the mom — Michelle.
  • Every Duggar child learns to play both violin and piano.
  • The Duggars estimate all the family members combined have worked approximately 39,000 total hours building their new 7,000-square-foot house.
  • The Duggars are debt-free.
    Source: www.duggarfamily.com

    The Duggars in Lodi

    Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar will appear at 6:30 p.m. today and at 9:30 a.m. and 6 p.m. on Sunday at The Home Church at 11451 N. West Lane, just north of Eight Mile Road. For more information, call 339-7333.
  • Contact reporter Ross Farrow at rossf@lodinews.com.

    Reader Feedback

    Lodian wrote on Nov 9, 2008 2:53 PM:

    " No one cares what you think, RF. "

    real facts wrote on Nov 8, 2008 4:26 PM:

    " ("Leonard wrote on Nov 2, 2008 5:24 PM:
    Actually, the vast majority of the current science on the subject suggests that genetics form at least a component of sexual orientation").

    edumacation challenged leonard to PROVE this accusation and leonard COMPLETELY ran away from it.

    i tell you, this guy has been pulling this garbage for over two years now in these blogs, making statements he knows aren't true, but what fits his liberal agenda. it's sickening to watch it day in and day out.

    a real man would back his assertions up. not leonard though. he NEVER does on the "homosexual" and "God" debate arenas in these blogs. he sprays, then cuts and runs

    and BTW for future blog reference, so one can connect the dots for "ideaology purposes", ivan dixon is leonards dad. that's why they share the same "truth" DNA ideals

    that's what you get leonard for thinking you can get away with pulling that garbage time after time

    love, real facts "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 4, 2008 10:51 PM:

    " SportsGuru: Ya, but the Duggars have their own TV show. "

    SportsGuru wrote on Nov 4, 2008 12:02 PM:

    " .
    I know a Stockton couple that (at last count) had 13 kids. The mom said it was actually easier once they hit 7 because the older kids could start to help with the younger ones.

    The mom has a website business (doling out advice)... I'm suprised LNS didn't look to see if there were any local families like the Duggars...

    http://www.interactivemom.com/ "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 3, 2008 5:58 PM:

    " They are Fundamentalist Christians. "

    uncle stinky wrote on Nov 3, 2008 5:29 PM:

    " They are not even Catholic or Mormon WTF "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 3, 2008 9:45 AM:

    " Whoa Nellie!: I've never seen any of their shows, but I'd like to. "

    Whoa Nellie! wrote on Nov 3, 2008 8:53 AM:

    " I caught an episode of their show last night. It was like a train wreck; I didn't want to look but I just couldn't resist.

    So the oldest son gets "engaged" and now can hold hands with his young bride (she looked 17). They must have a Chaperone at all times. There is talk all the time of being pure, and what's right, etc.

    Worse, watch the show on tlc about "Purity Balls." Some real issues going on with these people.

    What rock are these people living under? "

    dogs4you wrote on Nov 2, 2008 11:08 PM:

    " The mother and father with the most kids doesn`t win, this isn`t a contest. "

    edumacation wrote on Nov 2, 2008 8:49 PM:

    " To Lodian: Not much excitement around here other than an alleged sighting of a GWSS. Snore. "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 7:42 PM:

    " ....just seeing if you have a sense of humor! LOL! "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 7:39 PM:

    " I imagine edumacation up and out of his computer chair running around the house, flailing his/her arms, as he/she comes back to pound out these posts on the blog. Are you a very excitable person, edumacation? LOL! "

    edumacation wrote on Nov 2, 2008 7:32 PM:

    " To Leonard 5:31 post: Oh I get it, but you misspelled the word. It was either/or a thoughtless and rude innuendo or maybe---Have you been hanging around the rainbow crowd too much? LOL I am waiting for your modern medical research anecdotes on the genetic origin of homosexuals. This will be verry interesting. The Anti prop 8 crowd will respond to your non "politically correct" post in legions. Haven't you heard--like abortion on demand, its all about "choice". LOL "

    educator wrote on Nov 2, 2008 6:43 PM:

    " My wife disagrees with you Leonard. She said that the Dugger's would still have the same number of children. However, they would have an entire brood of lawyers. "

    educator wrote on Nov 2, 2008 6:34 PM:

    " ROFLMAO @ Leonard "

    edumacation wrote on Nov 2, 2008 5:44 PM:

    " To Leonard: Quote: "...the vast majority of the current science on the subject suggests that genetics form at least a component of sexual orientation..."

    Thats fascinating, tell us about ONE? "

    Leonard wrote on Nov 2, 2008 5:31 PM:

    " If Jim Bob's last name had been Buggar instead of Duggar, he would probably have a lot less kids.

    :) "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 5:29 PM:

    " I wonder how the household copes when Mrs. Duggar gets sick? Wait a minute... mom's can't get sick. Nevermind. ;-) "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 5:25 PM:

    " I see that the Duggar family gets around in a little bus that sort of looks like the Dial-A-Ride bus here in Lodi. I bet they're glad that the gas prices have gone down as of late. "

    Leonard wrote on Nov 2, 2008 5:24 PM:

    " edumacation wrote on Nov 2, 2008 4:42 PM:

    According to the rainbow crowd, sexual orientation is a choice.


    Actually, the vast majority of the current science on the subject suggests that genetics form at least a component of sexual orientation.

    I don't know what "rainbow crowd" you have been hanging out with you appear to be mistaken. "

    edumacation wrote on Nov 2, 2008 5:06 PM:

    " To Ivan: I was wondering why YOU thought that I thought it was "strange" that YOU had lunch with a shrink? I never thought "that" was strange. Only understandable after reading you posts. "The lady doth protest too much - me thinks." Ask your friend to explain this to you or ask Queen Gertrude. "

    edumacation wrote on Nov 2, 2008 4:59 PM:

    " To Ivan: If you only knew. LOL "

    edumacation wrote on Nov 2, 2008 4:42 PM:

    " To Leonard and Lodian: I am trying to understand you liberal thinking. According to the rainbow crowd, sexual orientation is a choice. Do you know of some new theory that expains that?

    Most studies in Western culture show that ho,mosexiual males are less than 3% of the general population. Gays try to pretend it's a higher rate to make them look more "normal". Liberals like to disagree or argue with the mainstream about anything, so they also take up the rainbow banner. "

    Ivan Dixon wrote on Nov 2, 2008 4:31 PM:

    " ---- edumacation wrote on Nov 2, 2008 4:17 PM:
    " To Ivan Dixon QUOTING : " ...lunching with a psychiatrist friend of mine
    ..."
    So is thats what they call it? LOL ROFL Were you wearing a straight jacket while you were eating? LOL ----

    No, believe it or not, some of us actually have well educated friends with professional practices.

    Perhaps, if you had actually achieved some degree other than an eight grade diploma, this would not seem so strange to you. "

    sam wrote on Nov 2, 2008 4:30 PM:

    " Lodian, when my husband proposed to me he did add "... and only 2 kids." LOL "

    edumacation wrote on Nov 2, 2008 4:17 PM:

    " To Ivan Dixon QUOTING : " ...lunching with a psychiatrist friend of mine
    ..."
    So is thats what they call it? LOL ROFL Were you wearing a straight jacket while you were eating? LOL "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 4:06 PM:

    " I'd like to spend a day at their home in Arkansas. :-) "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 4:05 PM:

    " Does Mr. Duggar still work in real estate? I wonder where all the big bucks come from? Is their book, appearances and tour paying them well? "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 4:04 PM:

    " Leonard wrote on Nov 2, 2008 3:58 PM:

    " Here's a thought.

    Statistically speaking, the odds are that at least one or two of those kids are gay.

    Given some of the things Mr. Boinker has said in previous media appearances, life for those kids can't be a walk in the park. "

    You're right. There may very well be a gay person in there somewhere. I wonder how many people are using this family as a case study for one thing or another? Should be interesting in the years to come. "

    voter wrote on Nov 2, 2008 4:01 PM:

    " sam wrote on Nov 2, 2008 3:41 PM:
    "Well I love my cigar too, but I take it out of my mouth once in a while."

    LOL! Never heard that one before. I can only imagine your father's surprise--this coming from the mouth of babes! "

    Leonard wrote on Nov 2, 2008 3:58 PM:

    " Here's a thought.

    Statistically speaking, the odds are that at least one or two of those kids are gay.

    Given some of the things Mr. Boinker has said in previous media appearances, life for those kids can't be a walk in the park. "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 3:49 PM:

    " Michelle Duggar did say that she wants more children! "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 3:47 PM:

    " sam: I love big families. I do not, however, know what it is like to be in a family of twenty or even half that many! (LOL!) It's fascinating! "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 3:45 PM:

    " sam wrote on Nov 2, 2008 3:44 PM:

    " Lodian, I do have a great , funny memory. Every time my Mom got pregnant, she munched on soda crackers to help with the morning sickness.

    I would never eat those things when I was young. All I remember was watching my Mom munch those things and a few months later she had a baby. I was scared to death of them. For the longest time, I thought that is where babies came from... soda crackers. "

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 3:44 PM:

    " The Duggar's were on the Today Show. Here's a clip, and a glimpse, into their lives. Very interesting...

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20134584/ "

    sam wrote on Nov 2, 2008 3:44 PM:

    " Lodian, I do have a great , funny memory. Every time my Mom got pregnant, she munched on soda crackers to help with the morning sickness.

    I would never eat those things when I was young. All I remember was watching my Mom munch those things and a few months later she had a baby. I was scared to death of them. For the longest time, I thought that is where babies came from... soda crackers. "

    sam wrote on Nov 2, 2008 3:41 PM:

    " Cog, they were or are devote Catholics. It is a sin, to them, to "wrap that rascal".

    I remember as a kid I heard a joke that Groucho Marx said to a man with a lot of kids. I repeated it to my Dad. Wrong idea. I got a lickin for having a "foul mouth." I had no idea what it meant when I said it.

    "Well I love my cigar too, but I take it out of my mouth once in a while." "

    sam wrote on Nov 2, 2008 3:35 PM:

    " Hey Lodian, my Mom had 12 of us. All natural, all from the same Dad too... and she is still gorgeous at 79.

    I was one of the older ones and do remember changing my first diaper at 5 years old. We always had a smaller one to care for and be responsible for. Ha... and no welfare... never ever. My Dad was and still is an amazing provider.

    We are all alive and well.

    One thing about a big family is that we were never lonely. "

    lodisafeway wrote on Nov 2, 2008 3:02 PM:

    " Gee Ivan Dixon - at what point is this a psychological problem? Is it at 18 children; ten children; five children; or two children?

    At what limit does your psychiatrist friend believe that this particular woman has lost control of her own mind and given it over to that of her "abusive" husband (although you did stop short of making such an accusation in this case). Surely during your luncheon he revealed that information to you, did he not? Or did he or you decide that the question was without merit? I'm very interested in learning.

    I'm also curious as to what point you and your ilk start to crack jokes about pigs and rabbits as it pertains to human beings having children - just what kind of psychosis would that be labeled? Your psychiatrist friend has a few problems of his own (personally but mostly professionally) if he yucked it up regarding something as normal and natural as human procreation. "

    lodisafeway wrote on Nov 2, 2008 2:49 PM:

    " Numbers and numb minds are interesting things. When asked if a child would rather have $10,000 as a monthly allowance or $1 the first day, then $2 the next followed by $4 (you know, doubled each day), at first blush the child would choose the $10,000. Of course the child would be wrong.

    So, if one were to take a couple who have two children and each of their children have two and so on - their offspring would multiply exponentially - much like this family of 18 children if they were to do the same. The interesting thing is that for the couple having the two original children as opposed to the 18, it wouldn't take too many generations longer for the "two" of the two families for the differences to be inconsequential.

    Regardless, if the two children were raised in as loving and responsible household as these eighteen obviously have, how could anyone describe that as "disgusting?" Human life is a precious and wonderful thing.

    Yeah, numbers and people are an interesting things indeed. "

    voter wrote on Nov 2, 2008 1:52 PM:

    " Lodian, those are some scary questions. "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 1:45 PM:

    " I wonder if all 18 children were born naturally. I would also be interested to know what Mrs. Duggar does to stay in shape as it's a lot of wear and tear (literally) on a woman's uterus and body in general. And did she breast feed all of them? Yikes! "

    Ivan Dixon wrote on Nov 2, 2008 12:54 PM:

    " I happened to be lunching with a psychiatrist friend of mine when the story of this couple first broke.

    Naturally, some jokes were made about sows and bunnies and the like but, when the conversation turned back to the serious, my friend explained to me that this sort of condition in a woman is actually a recognized psychiatric disorder, often brought on by sexual or emotional abuse.

    Now I am not saying that Jim Bob is himself an abuser but it certainly seems that he bears some complicity in perpetuating his wife's disorder, especially if, as it appears, he has prevented her from seeking professional assistance. "

    Leonard wrote on Nov 2, 2008 12:43 PM:

    " Girard, your burning hatred is consuming you. "

    lodisafeway wrote on Nov 2, 2008 12:31 PM:

    " Absolutely amazing!!! A couple who decided to keep all of their children with no indication of being on the public dole or any expectation of the government (or anyone else) to provide for them and there are still those who just cannot accept people who are truly responsible.

    Such weak-minded and pathetic people who utter such nonsense (such as "they can say what they want but I think they probably recieve (sic) WELFARE") have unfortunately become typical of those who actually want the government to take care of them. Eighteen children and not one of them lost to abortion - that alone is a wonderful example of a couple recognizing the absolute value of human life. I really do wonder who they believe will make a better president - my best guess would be that it isn't the self-proclaimed messiah, Barack Obama. "

    edumacation wrote on Nov 2, 2008 12:16 PM:

    " To Leonard: Of course I am only speaking to politically correct cultural diversity. We have too much now, but this will change as the new America will be looking for a few white folks... "

    lilsweets68 wrote on Nov 2, 2008 11:19 AM:

    " let me guess, all the bad-mouthing is coming from a single parent or husband/wife who wonders why there kid(s) are heathens. Don't be jealous that you do not have this kind of discipline and control. They are very smart people and from what I can see great parents. YOu might want to attend tonight to get some insight...I'll save ya a seat.

    Since it involves religion, people can't accept this family coming to Lodi, if it didn't there would not have been one posted comment...shame on all of you negative jerks. "

    T & C wrote on Nov 2, 2008 11:17 AM:

    " I agree with you voter! "

    Leonard wrote on Nov 2, 2008 9:57 AM:

    " Jim Bob has worked in real estate as an agent and investor for more than 25 years.

    LOL!!! Jim Bob Boinker! Is destiny contained in a name?

    Don't tell me... Mr and Mrs Boinker are cousins, right? "

    Leonard wrote on Nov 2, 2008 9:55 AM:

    " edumacation wrote on Nov 2, 2008 7:17 AM:
    " To leonard: In a country full of illegal baby machines, they are assuring DIVERSITY in America's future.


    I assume that you are not speaking of genetic diversity. "

    voter wrote on Nov 2, 2008 9:25 AM:

    " I am sure these folks are nice, decent people and I wish them no ill, but that photograph looks like a herd of farm stock standing in front of an especially nice barn. Surely they could have selected a more flattering pose. If this large family is their dream come true, we should be happy for them--and indeed, they seem to be doing a remarkable job of raising their brood by every measure. It can't be easy. But to parade them around as an ideal seems backward thinking for most of us citizens on this crowded planet. "

    T & C wrote on Nov 2, 2008 8:47 AM:

    " It must be nice to breed like the devil, own a 7,000 square foot home and be debt free! Maybe making babies is the key to owning your own and becoming debt free! Hmm! "

    educator wrote on Nov 2, 2008 8:24 AM:

    " Doesn't anyone else find it strange that the Duggars us a "Financial Freedom Seminar" to bankroll this family?

    Sounds like a big scam to me. "

    edumacation wrote on Nov 2, 2008 7:17 AM:

    " To leonard: In a country full of illegal baby machines, they are assuring DIVERSITY in America's future. Pass out the Viagra and celebrate. "

    Leonard wrote on Nov 2, 2008 6:52 AM:

    " Here is a fascinating statistic. If each of Mr and Mrs Boinkers pups have similar litters in a mere eight generations there will be more than 6 billion Boinkers on this planet.

    Even if everyone else on the planet were to stabilize their populations, that would mean that the Boinkers alone would have doubled the population of the planet in less than two centuries.

    Disgusting..... "

    Leonard wrote on Nov 2, 2008 6:45 AM:

    " FROM THE ARTICLE:A Christian doctor told them that taking the pill can cause miscarriages.

    I have never heard anyone claim that wearing a rubber causes miscarriages.

    As Cogoto suggested, problem solved. "

    Leonard wrote on Nov 2, 2008 6:44 AM:

    " Cogito wrote on Nov 2, 2008 12:20 AM:
    " DUUUHUUUDE! Wrap that rascal! Put a helmet on that soldier! Put a shed over that lumber! You've proven your point! The next generation of your DNAs advancement is more than secure. Give the wife a break! "

    LOL!

    I second that motion! "

    Wowerzz wrote on Nov 2, 2008 5:50 AM:

    " Cogito- exactly what I'm sayin..."Then they prayed for God to bless them with as many children as he saw fit" WOWerzz...I think God forgot to turn off the kid making machine on these guys...maybe someone should tell him..LILSWEETS68,GAIL1 or whomever else thinks...18 children are part of a "NORMAL" life...CHOP IT OFF!!!! "

    Cogito wrote on Nov 2, 2008 12:20 AM:

    " DUUUHUUUDE! Wrap that rascal! Put a helmet on that soldier! Put a shed over that lumber! You've proven your point! The next generation of your DNAs advancement is more than secure. Give the wife a break! "

    edumacation wrote on Nov 1, 2008 10:32 PM:

    " To gatemom: I think liberals are harmful to the environment. All that hot air may cause global warming. I think I'll go breed. "

    edumacation wrote on Nov 1, 2008 10:30 PM:

    " To gatemom: I have never understood why liberals always whine about "wasting" water. 71% of the earths surface is covered with water. Of that 50% is at a depth of over 9,500 feet. If water is "wasting" - where does it go-- to planet mongo? It stays right here on mother earth to be recycled in the hydrologic cycle. "

    edumacation wrote on Nov 1, 2008 10:24 PM:

    " To gatemom: You sound like another liberal malcontent. I bet if they were a different ethnicity you would be whining about the diversity. Duggar family godspeed and I hope that -- if you wish-- All of your children have large families. I speculate that every one of the Duggar kids can read at above grade level since they are homeschooled. The typical California elementary school student languishes BELOW grade level in reading. I wonder why that is? Maybe its because of the million dollar retirement bonuses for interim Superintendents rather than buying books? "

    gatemom wrote on Nov 1, 2008 6:50 PM:

    " This story makes me sad. Mrs. Duggar sets the women's movement back about 100 years. And 200 loads of laundry a month? I'd hate to think of all the water wasted. This large family is harmful to the environment. Jim Bob and his wife need to learn a little self-control. Just because it is physically possible for humans to breed like rabbits doesn't mean you should! Shameful! "

    gail1 wrote on Nov 1, 2008 5:57 PM:

    " WOWerzz and dogs4you did you read the article....they aren't on welfare.try reading before being so mean...goodness. "

    M2CW wrote on Nov 1, 2008 2:10 PM:

    " I love the Duggars! I've been watching their show for sometime now and I love how they're an entire working unit. If everyone lived the same way (regardless of how many kids you have, if any), the world would be a better place. These people have a system in place that works! Can't wait to see them tomorrow night! "

    dogs4you wrote on Nov 1, 2008 1:30 PM:

    " With all those kids, I wonder what kind of transportation the father uses, sure isn`t a Ford Focus, then again Amtrack pulls into the station around noon, so does the Grayhound bus. Aren`t you a bit over your heads, since you are good church folks is # 20 in your plans. "

    Lodian wrote on Nov 1, 2008 1:04 PM:

    " Welcome to Lodi, Duggar family. You have a beautiful family. I'd sure love to know all of your organizational tips! :-) "

    edumacation wrote on Nov 1, 2008 12:54 PM:

    " To WOWerzz: Excellent post! My favorite Realtor broker friend has been corresponding with me about how Realtors shaft buyers and sellers. Its all about their commission. She warned me of a new frightening trend. Many Realtors are chagrined that house prices are dropping back to earth, but are not content to let them normalize. Theye are using three tricks to keep prices high: 1) Refuse new listings to keep the inventory down-including REO's. 2) Shill offers on a listing, so the targeted prospective buyer thinks there are legitimate "multiple offers" on the house (each has a huge loophole contingency to exit the deal) and bid the price up. 3) Charge the seller ADDITIONAL fees for advertising and other itemized selling charges in addition to the 6% required fee. Of course these rip off fees are paid by the buyer- the seller has no money on the table--only an old house- thats likely why they are selling. GREAT POST! "

    lilsweets68 wrote on Nov 1, 2008 12:50 PM:

    " good luck to the Duggars and disregard all of this bad mouthing...I will be awaiting there arrival tomorrow. "

    dogs4you wrote on Nov 1, 2008 12:14 PM:

    " I believe this guy can`t wait for Obama to become President, he can quit his job that in no way can pay all the bills and go on welfare or some kind of subsidiy, with all those mouths to feed and utilities to pay. Everyone that pays for their medical insurance might as well do the same thing, let the government pay for everything. It will be the new America, its called Socialism. You want it, your going to get it, whats pride got to do with it? A suggetion, sleep in different parts of the house, God won`t mind. As far as keeping his sanity is concerned, a `38 S&W will do just fine. "

    WOWerzz wrote on Nov 1, 2008 11:31 AM:

    " they can say what they want but I think they probably recieve WELFARE...18 mouths to feed with the 19 on the way...even for a real estate agent who probably took advantage of his clients and helped them get worked by the banks into homes they couldn't afford, most likely couldn't afford to feed the gang..WOWerzz nueter this GUY!!!..lol "

    T & C wrote on Nov 1, 2008 8:12 AM:

    " He has too much spare time...at least mor spare time then I do or want! "

    T & C wrote on Nov 1, 2008 8:11 AM:

    " 135 months of pregnancy? "

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