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Thoughts on Obama's redistribution of wealth


Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:31 AM PDT

What would you think of a U.S. senator traveling to Kenya — at taxpayers' expense — to campaign for his Marxist cousin?

What would you think of this same senator orchestrating the entire campaign, including post-defeat violence against Christians? Think Barack Obama, Barack Hussien Obama or Barry Soetoro, depending on which birth certificate you believe.

Someone once said that the best place to hide is in broad daylight. His writings and speeches tell us that he wants to "redistribute the wealth." That is socialism.

He helped his (convicted felon) slum lord buddy build substandard housing for the poor and racial minorities in Chicago. That same crook helped him buy a $1 million-plus house. Guess what, this outrageous senator is still in his home, but thousands of poor racial minorities are out of their homes because the plumbing and wiring was faulty.

Think "Animal Farm" where the pigs (who led the revolution for all the farm animals) end up living in the farmer's house, smoking his cigars and walking around on their hind feet. Meanwhile, all of the other animals are worse off than they were before. Sound familiar?

Larry Gullicksen
Lodi

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real facts wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:32 PM:

" ("SportsGuru wrote on Nov 4, 2008 11:52 AM: My biggest fear is that the next "9/11" type of event will occur within MONTHS of Barak Hussein Obama's election as president").

it SHOULD BE a legitimate fear.

if you were to ask the terrorists and all the other wahoo nations who love to see us wiped off the map ala israel, who THEY wanted for president knowing that they can take the most advantage of.......it would be barak obama

enuf said "

Lodian wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:00 PM:

" Brian: I don't know how you can say that one race is inferior to another. Tell me HOW one race can be inferior to another? Can you give me an example? Maybe it would be easier for you to explain how you think one race can be superior to another. "

voter wrote on Nov 5, 2008 4:10 PM:

" Brian, you are so uneducated that it's tragic. You have no clue to the extreme limits of your understanding of world history, genetics, geography, and cultural anthropology. Better to keep your hands off the keyboard than to advertise this ignorance. You dig yourself a deeper hole each day. "

Brian wrote on Nov 5, 2008 3:22 PM:

" No Lodian, I said every race has it's inferiorities, including the African American race.

You libs just whined so much about my posts the LNS got tired of hearng from you that they gave in.

There is nothing racist about saying some races have their inferiorities.


For you to say that some races haven't advanced as fast as others reveals how ignorant you are. Give us all a break and at least have some acknowledgement, for example, that the early Prussian tribes were far more advanced in their ability to use tools and speak a language than Africans and other cultures without worrying if someone thinks you're not being PC.

And don't give me that crap that it was socio-economics that prevented Africans from advancing. They had more than enough time to develop their own system of socio-economics before the white man introduced theirs to them. "

Lodian wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:25 AM:

" Brian: I can't even repost your comments because they were so bad (racist). How do you explain that one? "

Lodian wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:24 AM:

" Brian: No, you are racist because of your remarks here on the blogs that had nothing to do with President Obama. You spoke of African Americans. Your comments were so racist that the LNS had to remove them from the blogs.

You said that the African American race is inferior. You can't really get any more racist than that, Brian. You then tried to explain it away by saying you meant the human race was inferior, which didn't make a whole lot of sense.

You continued to dance around your racism, as you were caught red handed in your racism, but you just backpedaled and slunk away for a spell.

So NOW you are spinning it to say that we all think you are racist for not voting for Obama??? No, Brian, you don't get a pass for lying and twisting to get out of it. You made many racist remarks. You are a racist, as many here have suspected for a very long time.

Since you are a racist I wouldn't expect you to vote wisely in this election as you have the intelligence and integrity of an Arizona invertebrate. "

Brian wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:01 AM:

" Lodian, I can admit, at some time in my life, I have been a racist. Obama never brought that out in me, though.

If it makes you feel better that you can call me a racists because I don't like Obama, that's your choice.

And it's my choice to say you believe the White man is the root of all evil. "

Brian wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:55 AM:

" Lodian wrote: You, as a racist, are not someone we should listen to, Brian.

Lodian, Are we to conclude that you'll always listen to Obama because he'll never be a racist. "

Brian wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:49 AM:

" Lodian, Are you capable of saying "the White Man is not close to being the root of all the evil in this world"?

Just wondering. "

Brian wrote on Nov 5, 2008 6:24 AM:

" Lodian wrote on Nov 4, 2008 4:45 PM:

" SportsGuru: If there are any terrorist attacks they will come from inside the US from some crazy fringe wingnut like, Timothy McVeigh. "

McVeigh had associations with Al Qaeda.
Many people believe he was an Al Qaeda
operative.

Lodian, careful what you wish for. Al Qaeda and the likes of them have a much
stronger presence here than you realize. "

Brian wrote on Nov 5, 2008 5:49 AM:

" Did all your lies and smears make you feel better, little guy?

Frank, Your denial of Obama's questionabe associations and ideologies
worries me. "

Lodian wrote on Nov 4, 2008 4:45 PM:

" SportsGuru: If there are any terrorist attacks they will come from inside the US from some crazy fringe wingnut like, Timothy McVeigh. "

SportsGuru wrote on Nov 4, 2008 11:52 AM:

" .
My biggest fear is that the next "9/11" type of event will occur within MONTHS of Barak Hussein Obama's election as president.

And that is apparently Joe Biden's fear as well, given he said we would be "tested" and that Obama's response might "initially appear to be wrong" .. in other words, he will capitulate and try to "reason with the terrorists". "

Lodian wrote on Nov 4, 2008 10:01 AM:

" Brian: Didn't getting your racist remarks deleted by the Lodi News Sentinel teach you a lesson? Oh sure, little man, just ignore it and play on. It's what you do. "

Lodian wrote on Nov 4, 2008 9:59 AM:

" Brian: Oh sure, that's it. LOL!

You, as a racist, are not someone we should listen to, Brian. "

Frank wrote on Nov 4, 2008 8:29 AM:

" Brian wrote on Nov 4, 2008 6:37 AM:
" Sources have ALWAYS said that liberals tend to smear their opponents with untruths to make themselves feel good. "

That is an unbelievable comment coming from someone who has filled these blogs with racist lies and smears over the past months.

Did all your lies and smears make you feel better, little guy? "

Brian wrote on Nov 4, 2008 6:37 AM:

" Sources have ALWAYS said that liberals tend to smear their opponents with untruths to make themselves feel good. "

Lodian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 1:59 PM:

" Brian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 7:49 AM:

" Sources are now saying that Obama supporters believe once he wins the election he's going to walk on water. "

Sources are now saying that Brian is a drunken racist. "

Brian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 7:49 AM:

" Sources are now saying that Obama supporters believe once he wins the election he's going to walk on water. "

Brian wrote on Nov 2, 2008 5:59 AM:

" From the Gatewaypundit:

Friday, October 31, 2008
Iraqis Join Georgians and Israelis In Supporting McCain

It's interesting how those countries threatened by radical regimes and unstable neighbors are backing John McCain over the Far Left Marxisant radical.

Georgians back McCain.

76% of US citizens in Israel are voting for John McCain over Obama.

Even the Iraqis are speaking out in support of McCain.

Likewise-- Cuban Americans and Russian Americans overwhelmingly support John McCain. "

DanielH wrote on Nov 1, 2008 10:59 PM:

" OK. http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/forum/ looks funny. They have a good joke about Al Franken. "

DanielH wrote on Nov 1, 2008 6:10 PM:

" OK. http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/forum/ looks funny. They have a good joke about Al Franken. "

DanielH wrote on Nov 1, 2008 10:54 AM:

" OK. http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/forum/ looks funny. They have a good joke about Al Franken. "

DanielH wrote on Nov 1, 2008 12:41 AM:

" OK. http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/forum/ looks funny. They have a good joke about Al Franken. "

DanielH wrote on Nov 1, 2008 12:33 AM:

" Americans agreed that we can't afford to have our campaigns polluted with grass-roots opinions.

...

This bill was actually re-introduced after it was originally assigned bill #1, I believe in the same year it passed. "

DanielH wrote on Nov 1, 2008 12:29 AM:

" Does anyone remember the so-called "Campaign Reform Act"? How is everybody enjoying the corporate-sponsored campaign?

check out who sponsored it, in the following wikipedia extraction:

The Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (BCRA, McCainFeingold Act, Pub.L. 107-155, 116 Stat. 81, enacted March 27, 2002) is United States federal law that ... [supposedly] address[ed] ... the increased role of soft money in campaign financing. "

Cogito wrote on Oct 31, 2008 11:30 PM:

" It's O.K. Daniel, if people from Chicago can vote more than once, you can not vote more than once. "

DanielH wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:54 PM:

" I wish I could edit after I type. "

Cogito wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:54 PM:

" Daniel, 2 great books about media manipulation from an insider are "Arrogance", and "Biased", both by Bernard Goldberg. I've read them, and see it plainly too. They're easy reads, a rainy weekend for you. "

Brian wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:47 PM:

" http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obama-claus.html

Obama Claus "

DanielH wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:32 PM:

" For the record...I'm not voting. "

DanielH wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:28 PM:

" For the record...I'm not voting. "

DanielH wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:26 PM:

" Cogito: What you are saying about birth certificates is serious and huge! I see a huge red flag. what is that? Coffee? "

DanielH wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:23 PM:

" Cogito: I hope now you can start to see how public thinking is manipulated by media propoganda.

as a result of the Ron Paul campaign, I can see that more people are starting to understand how the media manipulates public opinion, like herding sheep.

I do not call it public opinion. I call it public awakening.

All politicians know the importance of banking, whereas Ron Paul discusses banking openly in the public, and now I have heard of his introducing legislation to ban the Federal Reserve. "

DanielH wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:12 PM:

" Cogito: I'm not a member of the JBS anymore, but through them, I actually shook hands with him twice.

On account of my absence, I just missed him a couple of weeks ago. He came by pretty close-to-home, and the JBS area coordinator was using his name to make me wish I was there. "

Cogito wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:02 PM:

" Wtf, you and Daniel turned me on to RP. I really do like some of his ideas. I wish he could have got the grease that Perot got a few years ago, it would have made this more fun. He definitely seemed the most sane on the economy, or the least clueless, take your pick. "

wtf wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:22 PM:

" Thanks, Cogito! I can see Gator couldn't meet the criteria ;) But I did look into McCain's Energy Policy here

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/04/mccain_speech_on_energy_policy.html

And it looks doable...it also resembles Obama's...LOL! Which is why I've been saying that McBama are two sides of the same coin....still you met the criteria!

Thanks!

Sometimes we go 'round 'n 'round, but I enjoy discussing things with you; however, you are an exception amongst the McLame supporters. LOL! Sure you're not a closet Obamaite or secret Ron Paul supporter? LOL! "

Cogito wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:18 PM:

" Since McCain will have to run all his ideas through a Democrat controlled congress hostile to a good idea, none of this can be proven with a guarantee. "

Cogito wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:15 PM:

" McCain will keep the top tax rate at 35%, capital gains tax at 15%, which has proven to INCREASE federal revenue, and phase out the alternative minimum tax. John McCain does NOT want to raise the marginal income tax rate, because it hurts small business and will stifle job creation. "

Cogito wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:09 PM:

" O.K. wtf, how about McCain standing for more energy independence. More domestic oil exploration and drilling(which would lower the price), the building of more nuclear power plants, and exploring the use of cleaner burning coal. "

Gator wrote on Oct 31, 2008 6:18 PM:

" Lodian, God knows how many people Ive seen interviewed that said Im voting for him
because he looks like me!!!! Sherri Shepherd of the View said those very wordsI find
it hard to believe that the public seems so enamored with someone with no track record
what so everJFK he is not, Couldnt be, never will beOne thing he is for sure is a bloody Socialist He has plans for spending 1 trillion dollars right off on entitlements, why? Because America is enamored with entitlements we want the Government to
baby sit us from cradle to grave, you know the drill blow your nose wipe your butt all your lifeIm not happy about either choice but I will not waste my vote on an Idiot
like Paul or Nader, a vote for them gives the one you cant stand a Positive vote, think
about it "

wtf wrote on Oct 31, 2008 5:58 PM:

" Seriously....come on McLame supporters....list just ONE thing your "candidate" stands for WITHOUT saying anything negative about other posters on this board or about Obama or any third party candidate.

My guess you zombies will either ignore this challenge or fail completely.

Come on.....just ONE thing McLame will do for Americans that is positive and can be backed up with proof. "

wtf wrote on Oct 31, 2008 5:55 PM:

" The common thread amongst McSame supporters are their lack of coherent debate; their mode, rather, is to use ad hominem attacks against those who support either Obama or a third party candidate.

Even those who allegedly "endorse" the Crypt Keeper, McLame, can't seem to find anything good to say about him. Why is that? You McLame supporters, why don't you list all the positive things your candidate supports.

I seriously doubt if you can because, in reality, there **isn't** anything that old fart supports...hence your blathering on with smear tactics against those who have an actual plan. "

wtf wrote on Oct 31, 2008 5:52 PM:

" steve you must not visit these boards often. I am, and have been, a Ron Paul supporter since the Republican primaries. Ron Paul is also a certified write-in candidate here in California. However, sam and I have had decent conversations regarding our respective choices and, as a courtesy, I looked at the Obama video, and no, as far as I know, **anyone** can say that a person is articulate - it isn't reserved for just one individual.

You must be a McLame supporter....it shows. "

Lodian wrote on Oct 31, 2008 5:04 PM:

" Gator: You say, referring to Obama, that "...if you don't vote for Dear Leader your Racist." You also think that an African American is only voting for Obama because Obama is black. I guess you have everyone covered. You don't think anyone in this country (not one?) would actually be intelligent enough to make an informed decision all on their own and take great care in that decision? Wow... sure you've got us all figured out. "

Gator wrote on Oct 31, 2008 4:36 PM:

" Obama is a modern walking, talking version of the Pied Piper and hes leading
His merry band of fools into the wonderful world of Karl Marx. Soon you wont
have to worry about money as Dear Leader will have it all, how else will he
pay for the one trillion dollars worth of entitlements. Remember Children if you
dont vote for Dear Leader your Racist. "

steve wrote on Oct 31, 2008 2:03 PM:

" Talk about mumbo jumbo, someone posted that they feel that, "Obama is the one with concrete solutions," but they voted for Ron Paul, come again, wasn't Obama on the ballot? "

steve wrote on Oct 31, 2008 1:54 PM:

" wtf just mentioned how after hearing a tape by Obama he found him to be "articulate." You wouldn't be plagiarizing Joe Biden would you? Few months back Biden described his running mate, "you got the first mainstream African-American who is ARTICULATE and bright and clean." "

Lodian wrote on Oct 31, 2008 1:51 PM:

" wtf wrote "...Every time McLame opens his mouth, some type of gibberish spews forth and it just hurts my ears. LOL!"

YOU BETCHA!

Where's Joe the plumber? LOL!

Great post! "

Al da long wrote on Oct 31, 2008 12:57 PM:

" "Wtf" = DMF, NO BomA, "

wtf wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:33 AM:

" Then there's this:


The Bush gang's parting gift: a final, frantic looting of public wealth
The US bail-out amounts to a strings-free, public-funded windfall for big business. Welcome to no-risk capitalism


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/oct/31/useconomy-banking "

wtf wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:29 AM:

" This is the video I watched on Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtREqAmLsoA

Couple that with the "windfall" profits of the oil companies yesterday - "breaking their own records" and with this on the $$$ from the 850 billion bailout:

"But reports surfaced that bankers might instead use the money to buy other banks, pay dividends, give employees a raise and executives a bonus, or just sit on it. Insurance companies now want a piece; maybe automakers, too, even though Congress has approved $25 billion in low-interest loans for them."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gdxImPfgsyFSMH5OMxs6D-Bg4rGQD941J5780

And this from Britain:

Goldman Sachs ready to hand out 7bn salary and bonus package... after its 6bn bail-out

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1081624/Goldman-Sachs-ready-hand-7BILLION-salary-bonus-package--6bn-bail-out.html

Along with the fact that this bill of goods was sold to the American people as a way to help **them** during this time of crisis....well, what Obama says in his video just makes sense. "

wtf wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:23 AM:

" sam I just watched a video called "American Stories, American Solutions: 30 Minute Special" with Obama. Is this the 30 minute special that has the McSame Zombies screeching?

I have to say that every time I've heard Obama speak, he's been articulate and it is **very** apparent that he has thought through what he plans to do. As for "redistributing" the wealth, I don't see it that way.

What I gleaned from the video, is that Obama plans on getting people's retirement and pension back - $$$ they paid that was stolen by the Bush types currently looting the treasury.

I've said the before, I've already cast my vote for Ron Paul; but of the two other candidates, Obama is the one with concrete solutions. Every time McLame opens his mouth, some type of gibberish spews forth and it just hurts my ears. LOL! "

sam wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:18 AM:

" Edumacation, I am so sorry you see McCain as a King. He is just a man, like Obama.

King McCain ???? You betcha ;-) (wink-wink) "

edumacation wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:52 AM:

" The implication I see in many of these posts is that many voters are thinking of the President as KING. Thats one reason for the Declaration Of Independence from British rule. What will happen to our republic if instead of voting for a President we vote for a KING? Many liberals are salivating knowing they have control of most of the media, public education, most of the Congress and the Senate. If radicals get their way, they will never have had to overthrow our government violently. We will vot the new King in. Listen to the subtext of the liberal rhetoric. NOTHING OBAMA ever says is ever disputed by the liberals. We are looking at Orwellian Groupthink in action. Lets Never question "Obama the King". If its good for Oprah it must be good for the USA? We must elect a leader who will compromise and bring consensus among ALL people, not just among like-minded radicals. If elected, who will Obama forge alliances with other than his banker-backer friends? Will he ever get agreement from patriotic Americans? Why are are Arab countries donating to his campaign? "

steve wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:23 AM:

" Yes Sam give as much you can, "I am my brother's keeper." Barack Obama must have a different idea for his brother living in a hut in Keyna, and a aunt living in slum housing in Boston. He has others looking out for him though, many of the people he calls the "evil Wall Street Gang." have given to "keep their brother" JP Morgan $581,000, Goldman Sachs $870,000, Citi Group $566,000, Morgan Stanley $425,000. "

Mazie wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:56 AM:

" You need to watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8 "

t jefferson wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:42 AM:

" EY - as stated before, history is a terrible thing to misconstrue. The orginal requirement for voting was land ownership. Why, becasue these are the people who paid taxes. Orginally blacks, whites, purple, brown could all vote if they owned land. And yes they all owned land. The concept was, if you have skin in the game then you can help decide the direction of the country. Contrast with now, you can be a 4th generation welfare queen with 7 kids and your vote counts the same as the person who had $1 million dollars of thier income confiscated by the govt. That doesn't seem "Fair" to me. "

sam wrote on Oct 31, 2008 7:00 AM:

" "You see, sam, you and I support different presidential contenders and can have a decent conversation."

wtf, thank you. That is what i love about your blogs. You have made it clear that we have different views, but your responses are always respectful.

FYI, I have read everything you have put out there and I do appreciate your input.

Ahh, a rainy Friday. What a perfect beginning for a Friday. "

t jefferson wrote on Oct 31, 2008 6:12 AM:

" And bob to spell it out for you - history is something that occurred before you were born, a study of it requires more than reading the paper and readers digest. Go look up Jeffersonian democracy and the federalist papers and a little about history...it is quite enlightening and then you will understand that about which you attempt to slander. "

t jefferson wrote on Oct 31, 2008 6:10 AM:

" sam - does that mean you are going to pony up on line 4?

EY - talk to the hand moron, if you can't read and understand what I said and take it in context, maybe you should get a better education and think before engaging fingers.

I am always amazed and the responses I get on this small town blog when I state historical fact and bring up controversial topic. It's almost as if I am in a lab with a bunch of uneducated Pavlovian people. Push button A get liberal talking point C. Push button B get uneducated Myth F. It is amazing and horrifying at the same time. An uneducated electorate allows a small group of people to rule unconditionally. EY and Loblaw you are perfect examples. No thought just anecdotes and feelings (which have all be supplied by others) "

Election Year wrote on Oct 31, 2008 4:18 AM:

" Sounds like t jefferson is looking to turn this country into a Communist state where only "certain people" are allowed to vote. Your statement clearly indicates that you believe women and blacks should not be able to vote. And to say that there was a "reason" is absolutely correct - 225 years ago white males ruled the country - same as today, but making progress. "

Rhodie wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:44 PM:

" "Rhodie, I do not agree with the UN all the time, but I would pay a percent of my salary to Feed The Hungry of the world."

I would (and do) as well. But I believe we more than pay for any taxes the UN feels entitled to from us with the blood of our soilders in UN sanctioned actions.

It basically comes down to this for me in giving the UN money to feed the poor. How much money from every dollar shipped out of the US to them actually goes to the hungry in the streets? "

wtf wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:38 PM:

" sam, you are one classy lady! The McLame Zombies came after you today (guess they forgot that Halloween's tomorrow) and you dealt with each and every one of them.

Great job!

I had to deal with these "usual suspects" when Ron Paul was in the primaries, and, I am VERY happy to say that RON PAUL is now a write-in candidate for president here in California!

Yeah!

You see, sam, you and I support different presidential contenders and can have a decent conversation; however, I've noticed that the McCrypt followers have trouble with common courtesy. You have to remember that most of their "news" comes from Faux, they don't provide any type of link to their goofball statements and they refuse to look at any link provided by rational individuals such as you and myself. LOL! "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:41 PM:

" Citizen, I am sorry to disappoint you, but Obama is a mere man. No, he is not a God. He is a man. He is a good man. I choose to support him.

If you do not like his policies by all means vote for who you want. "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:39 PM:

" Actually citizen I made a ton of money today. I am one of those small business owners who will be taxed more under Obama, and I am not worried by it.

Nothing I wrote here was a lie.

I am pro gun, anti abortion Republican who sees that McCain is not the answer. "

citizen wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:34 PM:

" Sam where does someone start with you. Almost everything you have blogged here today is untrue. You sound like an Obama worshipper here. I thought you wrote you had to go to work at about 8 this morning and then you proceeded to blog all day long about your savior. Another pathetic unemployed lib. God is there any other? "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:07 PM:

" Awk, McCain could not fill his rally today so they bussed in an elementary school.

Oh, and Joe the Plumber is on the McCain payroll now to speak at the rallies... But oops... Joe forgot to show up. Poor McCain could not find him. "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:05 PM:

" Oh Thomas J, I was referring to feeding the hungry people of the world.

I support feeding our hungry in our country, but I do think we, as a wealthy nation could feed more.

But hey, you do not want to, please don't bother. "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:00 PM:

" McCain has ties to Rashid Khalidi through a group Khalidi helped found 15 years ago. The Center for Palestine Research and Studies received at least $448,000 from an organization McCain chairs.

HA, seems that McCain forgot...

Oh yeah... McCain said 1960s radical Bill Ayers had attended the same party in 2003.

So now McCain is paling around with Ayers???

Karma is a bugger. "

t jefferson wrote on Oct 30, 2008 5:24 PM:

" sam, line 4 of the w-4 allows you to pay as much as you want to pay for your brothers. Funny, every time I bring that up, no-one ever seems to contribute more money. Guess there is a whole lot of talk and very little action.
Lodian- don't know what the hell you are talking about, but blaming bush is pretty common these days, kind of like the witch hunts of olde. Whatca gonna do we the big bad bushie isn't around any more and BO is ruining the country? "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 5:01 PM:

" Rhodie, I do not agree with the UN all the time, but I would pay a percent of my salary to Feed The Hungry of the world.

I do think we are our brother's keepers. "

Rhodie wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:22 PM:

" I believe it started with Clinton;) "

Lodian wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:15 PM:

" t jefferson: Ya, thanks to Bush. "

t jefferson wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:30 PM:

" may as well throw in the qualification to vote. There was a reason only certain people were allowed to vote orginally. Voting should be a privilage not a right, you should have to prove you have what it takes to vote. (don't know exactly what the criteria should be, just know there should be something) Without any criteria this just becomes mob rule and in the end you end up with a welfare state, Oh wait we are there...... "

Jeff wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:09 PM:

" 'The alternative I would enact is there is no more vice Pres on the card. The winner gets the office, the second place gets the Vice president office.'

Rhodie, this was the original construct of the electoral college. I believe it is time to change it back.

Your other idea can also be addressed through instant runoff voting. There are different methods, but most address the majorit vs. plurality problem. Many people (far left and far right and those in between) should appreciate IRV by enfranchising votes for other than the Dem or Rep candidate.

Google it, you may like it... "

Rhodie wrote on Oct 30, 2008 1:17 PM:

" Another "if I were in charge" moment for y'all.

If I had the power one change I would make to the political prcess is that canidates must recieve more than half the registered voter's votes to gain office. If less than half is achieved from the "winner" then all parties involoved would have to field a new canidate in a month or two for a special election until a canidate is found that at least half of America believes in.

The alternative I would enact is there is no more vice Pres on the card. The winner gets the office, the second place gets the Vice president office. "

Rhodie wrote on Oct 30, 2008 1:13 PM:

" MARZO2008, "mccain he is the wrong choice by far. to old and he should be out and not working anymore."

Are you saying old people have nothing to offer society after years of learning, experiences both good and bad, and wisdom? "

Rhodie wrote on Oct 30, 2008 1:09 PM:

" Sam, while Obama talks of lowering taxes he also supports Americans paying taxes to the UN. I would like to know your response to the following link. I know it is from Feb. but I believe it is still up for vote.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-global-tax-proposal-up-for-senate-vote/

I have a hard time believing him in referance to his tax plan when paying the UN 65Billion$ from our taxes makes sense to him.

I could be biased here though, I think we should pull out of the UN completly. (just so you know hwere I stand) "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 12:23 PM:

" safeway, I am truly sorry FOR YOU. "

Mazie wrote on Oct 30, 2008 12:07 PM:

" What do you make of this?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/29/eveningnews/realitycheck/main4557520.shtml?tag=topHome;topStories "

MARZO2008 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 11:59 AM:

" anyone who puts someone like Joe the Plumber's on to try to represent the american people are dumb. noone should vote for mccain he is the wrong choice by far. to old and he should be out and not working anymore. give others the chance to make a difference. Bush was messed things up for us. and if you want another four years of that then we will lose more than our homes. think people if you still can. "

lodisafeway wrote on Oct 30, 2008 11:44 AM:

" I suppose not many here are worried about that Obama video the L.A. Times is keeping under wraps, hmm? Talk about journalism in the tank! "

lodisafeway wrote on Oct 30, 2008 11:42 AM:

" Well, you nailed it Sam - and Obama's lies are much akin to his beloved pastor's belief's regarding our country - because of his past, his associations and his deceptions, Obama's chickens are indeed coming home to roost. He IS bad for America. "

lodisafeway wrote on Oct 30, 2008 11:39 AM:

" Wake up America!! With five days left the polls are indicating that much of Obama's distortions and flaws are beginning to sink in. But I suppose if enough pitiful folks fork over their last $5, he might be able to afford one more infomercial to make us feel sorry for folks who allegedly can't afford a gallon of milk. "

lodisafeway wrote on Oct 30, 2008 11:38 AM:

" No Sam or anyone else who would simply listen to Obama's own words last night, he set the threshold at $200,000. Earlier it was $250,000 and Biden set it at $150,000 only recently. These are their words - spoken from their own mouths presumably uttered as a result of their own brain-waves. McCain has no ability to control what these guys say and do - he is only bringing attention to their inconsistencies.

So, what are we to believe? What is it - $200,000, $250,000 or $150,000 - or maybe $50,000? We have no way of knowing do we; that then leads us (those with a working brain at least) to ask just what else has Obama been fudging about ("lying" is such a harsh word; I really don't wish to offend him or his minions) as he continues in his attempt to dupe his way into the White House. "

Bob Loblaw wrote on Oct 30, 2008 11:32 AM:

" t jefferson: you perverse view of history is pathetic. You should be embarrassed. "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 11:24 AM:

" Lodian, I am worried about my kids. Both make fabulous incomes. With McCain's income tax on health benefits each will approximately be taxed on an additional $16,000 a year.

Remember that increase tax is an added tax. Neither are making any more money. "

dogs4you wrote on Oct 30, 2008 11:21 AM:

" Sam you say Obama wants to go back to the old tax code that President Bush changed, as I recall Bush lowered the tax code much lower that Clinton. Almost $3.000, so lets hope that "Barry" does what he says he will do if he happens to get to sit in the oval office. "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 11:17 AM:

" Clearly (in my humblest of opinions) people who lie and try to smear other people with ignorant comments are what is bad for America "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 11:15 AM:

" Clearly safeway, you are not LISTENING. He made it very clear today in his speech this morning. McCain was the one that misquoted the numbers in his speech this morning. I watched both speeches.

Under$250,000 No tax increase
Under$200,000 (careful this is what is too hard for McCain to understand) an income tax reduction.

You are taking Biden's speech out of context. I saw that speech too. Actually it was not a speech. He was talking to a small group of people.

He said giving a tax break to a millionaire CEO does not help the middle class worker. However giving a tax break to a working man making $150,000 does make sense.

You have a nice day now. "

Lodian wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:27 AM:

" sam wrote "McCain wants to give you a $2500 tax credit for your insurance but he is planning on taxing the health insurance you have as income."

sam: We have excellent health insurance through my husband's employer. McCain's health insurance idea scares me as it will cost us quite a bit of money when taxed on that insurance as income. On top of that I know we wouldn't be able to buy that same insurance with a mere $5K a year. Either way we will be paying out the nose with the McCain plan. "

wtf wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:13 AM:

" 6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State.

7. Extention of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal liablity of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

The site below goes into more detail on this.

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/10planks.htm "

wtf wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:12 AM:

" Newsflash lodisafeway....we're already there. The United States has been practicing a form of "Democratic Socialism" for years, heading toward Communism at an ever more frequent pace.

Look at the Ten Planks of Communism

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. "

lodisafeway wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:52 AM:

" I just learned something interesting. Last night Obama (on his little $5 Million infomercial) claimed that no one who makes under $200,000 will see a tax increase when he is anointed in January. Today during a speech that threshold went up to $250,000. Just a short time ago his vice-presidential running mate lowered it even more to $150,000. Just what are we to believe if not the actual words and deeds of these candidates? Does Obama have any idea what he's doing? Obviously not.

Again, just research what all of these guys have written, said and done during their lifetimes. Look at their choice of "friends" and associates. Look at their success and failure rate in their chosen professions. Look at EVERYTHING - and then choose wisely.

Clearly (in my humblest of opinions) Obama is bad for America. He DOES want to take Americans' hard-earned money and redistribute it to those who have less - it is that simple. And this is NOT what America is all about. This is a definition of socialism - and this is something that we cannot permit to happen, even IF Obama becomes the next President of the United States. "

wtf wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:51 AM:

" GREAT posts, sam! I found what you wrote at 9:17 am particularly interesting:

"However he is going to STOP charging income tax on people receiving social security who make less than $50,000 a year. I love that idea. Our seniors need all the help they can get, In this economy, it must be so hard for them to live off of their social security."

This, to me, is an excellent idea since an "income" tax on social security with social security being paid from their paychecks throughout these seniors working years, seems like a tax on a tax. Last time I checked, the social security deduction on paycheck stubs was under the "tax" heading. Good for Obama for wanting to remove this second tax.... "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:26 AM:

" And Mazie, DO NOT LISTEN TO ANYONE about your vote NOT counting. Your vote matters. VOTE... but make it an informed vote. "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:21 AM:

" Hey Mazie, watch the entire discussion between Joe and Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ilwk_wmsQk "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:17 AM:

" Mazie, when he used the term "redistribution of wealth" he was answering Joe the Plumber's question on why those over $250,000 have to pay more taxes.

He is not giving money to people who do not work. That is just another "scare tactic lie" out there.

However he is going to STOP charging income tax on people receiving recieving social security who make less than $50,000 a year. I love that idea. Our seniors need all the help they can get, In this economy, it must be so hard for them to live off of their social security. "

Cogito wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:13 AM:

" Too bad "responsibility to vote", and "being a responsible voter" don't necessarily go hand in hand. "

lodisafeway wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:00 AM:

" Well Mazie, if you're depending upon this little blog as any serious source for information, you're looking in the wrong place. All you need to do is listen to what these candidates have said and written in the past and what they are espousing now - from there you weigh that against your own beliefs and understanding as to what you believe is the best course for our nation and vote accordingly.

As for the presidential contest in California it doesn't matter much - it is a foregone conclusion that the Democrats will take our electoral votes. The election will not be decided by California. Although with each day startling new information is emerging about Obama nothing is impossible. Regardless of what you read here and who it is you decide to support, please just vote. Relinquishing that responsibility is never the correct thing to do. "

Mazie wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:29 AM:

" But his redistributing of wealth is what I am not understanding completely. I heard he is going to increase benefits for welfare instead of getting them off of it. You hear so much you don't know what to believe, so I just need some info please. Thanks. "

stella wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:20 AM:

" Sam is absolutely correct. Obama proposes to raise the tax rate for the highest tax bracket from 35% to 39% - the rate is was in 2001, before a republican congress voted with Bush to lower it to 35%. Incidentally, at the time, McCain voted against lowering that tax rate, so Obama's proposed change simply goes along with what McCain wanted in 2001 - when McCain was a different man altogether. "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:18 AM:

" Mazie, you have a nice day. I have to go to work. "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:17 AM:

" Mazie, I am a life long Republican, but I cannot vote to continue this financial nightmare going on right now.

Mazie, both my husband and myself are small business owners. I am not afraid of Obama's tax plans.

But I am afraid of McCain's tax on healthcare. "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:15 AM:

" Mazie, Obama wants to go back to the old tax code that Bush changed. People making more than $ 250,000 will go back to the income
tax rate they paid before Bush. If you make under$250,000, your taxes will NOT go up. If you make less than $200,000 your taxes will decrease.

We cannot keep borrowing money from China. We have to pay off our debt. This is NOT socialism. On Larry King last night McCain said that
Obama was NOT a socialist. "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:11 AM:

" Mazie, Obama is not proposing universal health care. He is proposing affordable health insurance. You DO NOT have to buy it.

McCain wants to give you a $2500 tax credit for your insurance but he is planning on taxing the health insurance you have as income. "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:08 AM:

" McCain wants to take $300 billion of our taxes and buy all the houses in foreclosure. How is that not socialism???
Our government does not need to be in the housing business.

Obama wants to use $10 billion as incentives for financial institutes to renegotiate these housing loans. I prefer this plan. "

sam wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:05 AM:

" Mazie, "Exxon Mobil Corp., the world's biggest oil company, said third-quarter profit jumped 58 percent, exceeding analyst estimates, as record crude prices made up for the largest drop in output in at least a decade. Net income rose to $14.8 billion."

McCain wants to cut their taxes and tax our health insurance. CHECK IT OUT. "

Cogito wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:53 AM:

" No wait! THREE birth certificates! "

Cogito wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:51 AM:

" Wait, let me get this straight, last week nobody could produce Obama's birth certificate. Now, all of a sudden he has TWO of them? I'm confused. "

t jefferson wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:44 AM:

" actually bob, my namesake would be very proud of me, if you knew anything about history you would know that. OTH, my namesake would be very ashamed at what has been done to the constituion and the country that it established by people like you. It's OK though, these things are a circle and self correct. Keep pushing your agenda and when the tyrant comes to tattoo your neck, keep repeating, "I am a good person and this shouldn't happen to me." Me, I defend myself, the way this country was founded. I know this is lost on people like you, but oh well. BTW, everyone who knows you should be embarrassed....naa, naa, naa....time to grow up Bob and leave the cradle.... "

lodisafeway wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:18 AM:

" Youre correct DeltaEnglish, as a 20-year member of Jeremiah Wright's church in Chicago, there is no "evidence" that Obama is a Muslim or a terrorist. It does prove, however that he's either deaf (not likely) or a liar - a big liar.

His sitting in that pew for all that time listening (and at least tacitly agreeing) with what was being screamed from that pulpit represents a man who really doesn't like America or Americans at all.

And this is a person that too many people desire to be our President? Where has the sanity gone?!? "

Mazie wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:16 AM:

" so how does he plan on redistributing the wealth? somehow it just does not seem right. does that mean he will extend welfare services to people who should be working? i don't understand. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:34 AM:

" T jefferson: Your namesake would be ashamed of you. "

DeltaEnglish wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:12 AM:

" Graduated income tax has been around for a long time, but now with McCain behind in the polls, it's "socialism." Republicans (and Democrats,too) are now supporting buying stock in troubled financial institutions, thus partially nationalizing the financial industry. Partially nationalizing a major industry is far closer to socialism than graduated income tax. But who cares? It's election time, so throw everything you can against your oponent and see what sticks. At least, you didn't call Obama, a long-time member of the United Church of Christ, a Muslim terrorist. That's a small blessing. "

T jefferson wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:04 AM:

" Larry, you quote a classic of literature, most of which will be lost on the people here. The libs will try to ban the book because they don't agree with the message. In their mind BO is the 1st coming, (they don't believe in Jebus) so no matter what level of trickle up poverty he wants to oppose that is alright with them. Just keep oprha, springer and the govt cheese flowing. "

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