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Writer gives his opinion on the candidates
Thursday, October 16, 2008 6:12 AM PDT
Soon the patriotic "sheeple" will once again dutifully surrender to the siren calls of the voting brothels, like good little citizens.
Emotion will shadow all reason and rationality. In the primaries, the criminal corporatrocracy that controls government financially backed hordes of candidates in both major parties and the party faithful were given their illusionary candidate choices. Now we have Obama and McCain.
Obama, in the beginning expressed the improprieties of our government, our aggressive foreign policy and the self-serving interests of the multinationals. Now he has flipped and come on board, serving his corporate masters, like his opponent. He wants to leave the mess in Iraq and create a larger one in Afghanistan in hopes of killing the bearded boogieman that dwells in caves. Obama is a mere populist college jerk with a textbook education that yields to political expediency and lacks the courage of his convictions.
The opponent, John McCain, political organized crime's other pick, is no better. Once a fighter pilot in another flawed polemical endeavor, was shot down while dropping bombs on civilian targets, killing innocent people. McCain ejected and landed in a lake, was dragged out by the neighborhood survivors he victimized and received a deserved beating, sustaining a majority of his injuries. Saved by local authorities, he spent the remainder of the war in the Hanoi Hilton, receiving special privileges because of his father. He claims he stayed longer so others could be released; enhancing his false war hero persona. As Senate member of 26 years, has proven he is an idiot. Robbing the elderly of their life savings in the Savings and Loan scandal in the 1980s, with a well known ill temper and he knows nothing about other cultures, history or how other governments operate. Voted to plunder Iraq and Afghanistan, he then voted for the most misnamed legislation ever — the Patriot Act, trashing our rights.
Any citizen who votes for either of these two toadies and believes their vote will produce a president who is going to bring real change or stability to this nation, is a useful idiot for the plutocratic elite.
Adam Dados
Lodi
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Pat Maple wrote on Oct 20, 2008 6:47 PM:
Ivan Dixon wrote on Oct 20, 2008 11:16 AM:
" Sam, I have met Pat on occasion. Being "kind", or respectful of differing points of view are not his strong suit. He's pretty much a bully, but he has his supporters. But if he doesn't get his way, he packs up his toys and goes home.
This is my take on the guy as well. He is for his agenda. The idea of representing constituents seems to be a little too much for him to grasp. "
Pat Maple wrote on Oct 18, 2008 7:16 AM:
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 10:52 PM:
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 10:44 PM:
Pat Maple wrote on Oct 17, 2008 8:16 PM:
voter wrote on Oct 17, 2008 8:03 PM:
wtf wrote on Oct 17, 2008 7:24 PM:
You see, sam? If the Republicans had taken the party back from the neocons, we would have had Ron Paul as a choice for Pres instead of McLame.
Ron Paul wants to eliminate taxes and abolish the IRS AND he wanted to reduce the size of the government. Oh well, can't win them all and I've already written him in. "
wtf wrote on Oct 17, 2008 7:19 PM:
Well, turn about's fair play, I guess...probably to make up for all the YEARS the poor have been supporting the rich....kind of like the bailout bill that just passed. "
wtf wrote on Oct 17, 2008 7:18 PM:
NEWSFLASH!!!! We already are under Bushco and his recent "nationalizing" of the banks under this last bailout is only the start. "
wtf wrote on Oct 17, 2008 7:16 PM:
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=29095 "
sam wrote on Oct 17, 2008 6:52 PM:
My spouse and myself have been republicans for 35 plus years. We are not morons.
Actually I was a huge McCain supporter in 2000. I am not one now.
You are NOT a moron for voting for McCain. We just differ on our choices. "
Pat Maple wrote on Oct 17, 2008 6:34 PM:
voter wrote on Oct 17, 2008 3:09 PM:
Pat Maple wrote on Oct 17, 2008 2:03 PM:
Pat Maple wrote on Oct 17, 2008 1:58 PM:
Leonard wrote on Oct 17, 2008 1:38 PM:
" Leonard, upon further study, the method used by Democrats to achieve that veto proof majority is that they had to add provisions to strengthen the "anti-redlining community reinvestment act
Do you support the practice of "redlining"? "
SportsGuru wrote on Oct 17, 2008 12:03 PM:
Geez, when Obama told "Joe The Plummer" that it would be better for him to pay taxes so Obama could "spread the wealth around" it should have been a wakeup call to those people (whether they be liberal, conservative, republican or democrat) who do NOT want to live in a Socialist Society.
For YEARS the Democrats have spent an enormous amount of energy dispelling the "lie" that they are Socialist leaning.
In one moment, Obama crushed all of the work that the Democrate machine has done in preventing them from being classified as Socialist.
Obama is basically the first political candidate EVER to acknowledge that his strategy is going to be "Take more money from those who make too much, and distribute it to those who don't make as much".
That, at it's very core, IS SOCIALISM - and IS the core values of COMMUNISM.
Everyone should have taken note of that comment.
Obama believes that the Government best knows how to spend the money of those who make it. And best knows how to allocate money to those that don't make it.
Disturbing. "
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 10:58 AM:
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 10:07 AM:
sam wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:45 AM:
I thank you for that. I love info, but hate the lies.
I do love just reading you and Leonard going back and forth. You both have some great stuff and you both admit if you made a mistake.
Add Voter to that list too. The 3 of you are excellent on political stuff. Thank you ! "
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:38 AM:
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:30 AM:
t jefferson wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:14 AM:
Tax rates are one thing, what companies actually pay are something completely different. Those other companies with lower rates have far fewer deductions. I am all for low rates with no deductions - like flat taxes or consupmtion taxes. Take the Kennedy's - they have million, but through all thier foundations, deductions and tax shelters, they pay very little in tax, nowhere near the 39% tax rate. Could have said the same about a rich CEO. Go look at the Fair tax...it's a pretty good plan. Deductions/Credits are all welfare, it is the govt trying to engineer society, doesn't work.... "
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:11 AM:
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:09 AM:
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:02 AM:
Leonard wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:02 AM:
Since the political spectrum is circular and not linear, the farther right you travel, you eventfully meet your counterpart on the left. There is not much difference between fascism and communism to the common person
This is well put. "
Leonard wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:01 AM:
I got some info from a bad scource, a Realtor.
LOL! You're certainly not the first. "
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:00 AM:
t jefferson wrote on Oct 17, 2008 8:48 AM:
t jefferson wrote on Oct 17, 2008 8:44 AM:
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 8:40 AM:
Leonard wrote on Oct 17, 2008 7:57 AM:
" thanks Leonard, I knew you would finally agree with me that the founding documents, (especially the preamble to the constitution) are pertinent today just as they were 230 years ago.
I would say that it is the Right that is trying to rewrite the Constitution with their blatant disregard for civil liberties. The Founders would be appalled by the Police State that your leaders have tried to establish. "
Leonard wrote on Oct 17, 2008 7:53 AM:
" Leonard and Voter, how can you ignore the repeal of the Glass-Steagall act of 1933. It was a Democrat bill
How do you figure that? It was a Republican bill authored by McCain advisor Phil Graham (R-Texas) in the Senate and James Leach (R-IA) in the House. Clinton only signed it after Graham and McCain managed to assemble a veto proof majority in the Senate. "
t jefferson wrote on Oct 17, 2008 7:51 AM:
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 7:48 AM:
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 7:44 AM:
Cogito wrote on Oct 17, 2008 7:41 AM:
Leonard wrote on Oct 17, 2008 7:29 AM:
I believe the government exists to serve me, not the otherway around. I believe the government exists for common defense, foregin affairs and conflict resolution between the states, not as a hamock for everyone who doesn't want to work. I believe that opportunity for indivduals should be equal, but individuals are far from equal. What do you believe in?
I believe that the government exists to establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.
If you disagree with that, you can take a long walk on a short pier. "
Leonard wrote on Oct 17, 2008 7:25 AM:
" Pat, out of curiosity, do you believe that any of the current Republicans running the country have any culpability in the current crisis, and if so, who exactly?
People like Pat believe whatever they are told to believe. "
Lodian wrote on Oct 16, 2008 11:37 PM:
" There is plenty of blame to go around in our current financial crisis. The public, including lots of middle class folks, are living on credit beyond their means. Both Republicans and Democrats made decisions that contributed to the meltdown. It amazes me that anyone's identity is so tied to their political affiliation that they will believe absolutely anything that absolves their party of blame. This will not solve the crisis and will only divide us further. "
voter: Really good comments. "
voter wrote on Oct 16, 2008 8:46 PM:
voter wrote on Oct 16, 2008 8:41 PM:
Pat Maple wrote on Oct 16, 2008 8:29 PM:
voter wrote on Oct 16, 2008 3:50 PM:
Pat Maple wrote on Oct 16, 2008 2:36 PM:
t jefferson wrote on Oct 16, 2008 2:16 PM:
t jefferson wrote on Oct 16, 2008 2:10 PM:
Leonard wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:40 PM:
Leonard wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:39 PM:
" You worked for the University of California? Didn't know a state job required a loyalty oath
Yeah, the McCarthyites put that one through during the witch hunts back in the 50's. "
t jefferson wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:33 PM:
t jefferson wrote on Oct 16, 2008 1:22 PM:
I love this country I just think it needs to rediscover its roots. It is pretty clear that those that work in the government don't know or understand where this country came from.
BTW you tried to ask a loaded question much like the "Why do you beat your wife?", but it didn't quite work, go back to the drawing board..... "
Leonard wrote on Oct 16, 2008 12:28 PM:
I can feel your virulent hate in every post you write. "
Leonard wrote on Oct 16, 2008 12:27 PM:
" What oath have you taken to uphold the constitution? Are you an elected official, in the military?
I worked for UC in college.
My word is my bond and I take all of my oaths seriously, regardless of how long ago I took them. "
Bry wrote on Oct 16, 2008 11:14 AM:
For those who do care and might work to get rid of today's corrupt government officals, there are over 800 Rex 84 FEMA camps. These camps were justified by govt as holding camps for illegals aliens waiting to be deported back to Mexico. In reality, these camps will be for those who don't acquiesce to government's corruption and for those who revolt against today's socialist and facist US politicans. Unfortunately, I don't see America coming together to usurp our traitorous government. "
t jefferson wrote on Oct 16, 2008 10:58 AM:
t jefferson wrote on Oct 16, 2008 10:55 AM:
Bulldog wrote on Oct 16, 2008 9:28 AM:
Otherwise, I agree that neither candidate deserves our vote.
T Jefferson is right. Yes, we need to abolish the current government. It has become self serving and forgotten the people. The beaurocratic elite in this country rule rather than serve. Don't beleive me? Go to your local government office and ask for the services your tax dollar pays for. You will get a number and a form and an attitude. Go to a local school and question the ciriculum. You will be escorted off campus. Go to the bank and take 10 grand out of your savings account and watch them report you to the government.
Our country is a mess. Neither candidate is the answer.
Abolishing and starting over may be a better solution. "
Leonard wrote on Oct 16, 2008 9:25 AM:
Glad to see you are against the US
I am for the US Constitution which I have sworn to uphold. "
Leonard wrote on Oct 16, 2008 9:24 AM:
So, are you still certain that McCain will be the winner on 11/5? "
wtf wrote on Oct 16, 2008 9:09 AM:
lodisafeway, your comment is so typical of you,"Whatever "valid" points might have been raised in his letter...."
Yeah, in girard's world this would mean any negative references to Obama - that's what you would consider "valid" LOL!
Leonard, it doesn't seem like T jefferson is advocating treason at all; he is only stating unfortunate facts. Regarding getting rid of a crooked government, you might want to re-read the "Declaration of Independence" but then there are a lot of posters who probably would have voted to waterboard the Founding Fathers. LOL! "
Cogito wrote on Oct 16, 2008 9:09 AM:
T jefferson wrote on Oct 16, 2008 9:07 AM:
wtf wrote on Oct 16, 2008 9:04 AM:
lodisafeway wrote on Oct 16, 2008 8:53 AM:
Leonard wrote on Oct 16, 2008 7:30 AM:
I do have hope that they will try to move to fast and ignite the revolution. A lot of the military is a little sick and tired of the politicians these days. "
All those in favor of a military coup, follow TJ.
Apparently, the man is down with treason. "
T jefferson wrote on Oct 16, 2008 5:45 AM:
While I agree with you assessment of the candidates, I disagree with your conclusion. Voting for either of these candidates will lead to real change. Take a look at what FDR did in the last great depression, he formed the basis of our current welfare state all on the backdrop of fear. What do you think one of these will do. I just hope we don't end up with tattoos on our necks in a complete communist state. I do have hope that they will try to move to fast and ignite the revolution. A lot of the military is a little sick and tired of the politicians these days. "
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