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Candidates for 2008: They're preposterous!
The best quotation from either the Republican or Democratic convention came from New York Gov. David Paterson when he said, "If he's the answer, then the question must be ridiculous."
Paterson's observation referred to Republican presidential nominee John McCain. But it applies with equal accuracy to McCain's opponent, Barack Obama, and their vice-presidential choices, Joe Biden and Sarah Palin.
They're all preposterous!
The only good thing to say about election year 2008 is that it will be tough in future years to find less qualified candidates who have such little appeal to enlightened voters.
I'll hand it to the Democrats for nominating one of the few from its party that gives McCain, a mirror image of the least popular president in American history, a fighting chance.
I won't be watching any of McCain's or Obama's self-aggrandizing performances as they debase themselves by uttering the same worn-out platitudes we all know by heart.
And I'll not be reading any of their predictable speeches tailored to whatever specific voting bloc they're addressing at that particular instant.
Most certain of all is that, unless a loaded pistol is held at my head, I won't vote for either.
Nevertheless, I do have a few simple suggestions for the candidates that might actually help them in their White House quest.
Since the nation just suffered through an endless primary season with a gazillion meaningless debates and two exceedingly tedious conventions, I'd like to remind the candidates of the age-old adage: Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
They would be shocked if they knew how quickly the majority of viewers change channels when their images show up on their television screens.
We've heard what they have to say. We either believe or we don't. Few minds will be changed between today and Election Day.
Accordingly, I recommend that the nominees drastically curtail all their public appearances until mid-October. Let the Internet, the bloggers and the 24-hour news talking heads keep their names in the public eye.
Their campaigning should be limited to the three states that will decide the November winner: Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida.
Why should McCain visit California or Obama go to Texas? Neither has a chance in either state.
For Obama, I offer specific counsel. Please stop promoting "change you can believe in." You have absolutely no record of change or reform. The same bigmoney sharks support you that supported George W. Bush.
As for McCain and his GOP cronies, please no more feigned concern about Hurricane Gustav victims or retroactive hand wringing about Katrina.
If they're so troubled, let them do something tangible. McCain owns at least seven houses. His wife Cindy has her own jet.
Fly to Louisiana, pick up some displaced residents from New Orleans and Baton Rouge and put them up for a few weeks.
The sad truth is that the American political system is beyond immediate repair.
America has a largely uninformed and uninterested electorate. Lobbyists, special interest and ethnic-identity groups have inordinate sway. Politicians, constantly campaigning, move from one election to the next, dodging most of the real issues and providing only superficial answers to those few questions they can't avoid.
Maybe the answer can be found in the East.
The Japanese government fascinates me. Ineffectual leaders step down rather than continue to politically slug it out with little chance of success.
Twice within the last years, two Japanese prime ministers — Yasuo Fukuda and Shinzo Abe — resigned amid widespread disgust with their performances.
Abe promoted a conservative agenda to restore national pride and core Japanese values. But voters, who are more worried about their economic future, dismissed it as out of touch.
His successor, Fukuda, was done-in by a weakening economy combined with negative domestic growth and increasing retail prices, especially food. Financial market analysts dismissed Fukada's $18 billion economic stimulus as ineffectual.
Hmmm ... Does any of that sound familiar? A "conservative agenda," "restore national pride," "weakening economy," "increasing prices" and a failed economic stimulus package.
If those negatives are strong enough to bring down Japanese leadership, then the same should apply in America, where we have the identical concerns.
The shame is that although the U.S. has a democratic government, we haven't learned how to take full advantage of it.
Joe Guzzardi recently changed his party affiliation from Democrat to Independent. He is still looking for a presidential candidate worthy of his vote. Contact him at guzzjoe@yahoo.com.

Reader Feedback
DanielH wrote on Sep 13, 2008 12:40 AM:
DanielH wrote on Sep 13, 2008 12:38 AM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 12, 2008 11:19 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 12, 2008 11:17 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 12, 2008 11:10 PM:
wtf wrote on Sep 12, 2008 3:03 PM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFRSawe33sA "
wtf wrote on Sep 12, 2008 12:49 PM:
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=493 "
wtf wrote on Sep 12, 2008 12:34 PM:
I've stated before, that there are many in the world who would like to see Ron Paul as president; just check out the comments section on the article.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2008/09/200893194738167535.html "
wtf wrote on Sep 12, 2008 11:59 AM:
Can you say cooked books?
I knew you can!
http://www.moderateindependent.com/v6iAug292008ashtonpalin.htm
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/09/11/unfit_to_stand_so_close_to_presidency/
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/comment/columnists/lifestyle-columnists/joan-burnie/2008/09/12/sarah-palin-is-a-disaster-in-waiting-86908-20733247/ "
wtf wrote on Sep 12, 2008 10:08 AM:
Geez! I knew Jr. would be a problem in 2000 and was hoping it would be remedied in 2004; but, with the help of "We Deliver Votes" Diebold and the American population's problems with amnesia, it was more of the same.
This is why I told rv in an earlier post that, though Cynthia McKinney looks promising, I have to do more research on her. You would think, that the voting public would research before an election.
Unfortunately, too many in our society are content to "go along" and then complain after the fact. As for memory, I have a **long** one. LOL! "
DanielH wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:21 PM:
This causes the memory of the average US Citizen-voter to be completely void of what happened in the previous election.
When a president is elected, it is usually with around 50% approval rating around the time of election.
After the US Citizens have a chance to learn about the president-elect, usually the approval rating goes down.
The cycle repeats itself. "
wtf wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:55 AM:
Do you have any hard evidence to show me to back up your assertion? "
rv wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:27 AM:
wtf wrote on Sep 11, 2008 9:01 AM:
Cynthia McKinney
The **real** pitbull with lipstick! LOL! "
wtf wrote on Sep 11, 2008 9:01 AM:
http://gp.org/platform/2004/intro.html#998247
Here are a few videos as a result of Ron Pauls press conference yesterday
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=491
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=488
http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/30258/video "
wtf wrote on Sep 11, 2008 9:00 AM:
I thought so.no photo opp. But McKinney is right to the point
http://votetruth08.com/index.php/media/videos?task=videodirectlink&id=17
Here are a couple other videos of Cynthia McKinney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_QGiEN9VWI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03cOM9r51Nw "
wtf wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:59 AM:
Today being the anniversary of 9-11, I also like the way she wants more info on this. Almost 80% of the American people think that the official report has holes so big in it you could drive a mack truck through them and they want answers. Many of those questioning the official version of 9-11 are those who lost family members on 9-11. She also questioned Chertoff on his handling of Katrina. "
wtf wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:59 AM:
A. Shes a female - watch out Palin
B. Shes black - watch out Obama
C. Shes Roman Catholic - watch out Biden
D. Shes NOT McCain - watch out Bush, er, McSame
You want to talk about a pitbull with lipstick? Geez! This woman makes Palin look like a yippy little Chihuahua or some other yappy little dog you want to put a muzzle on. Watch how she sinks her teeth into Rumsfeld and gives him a shake or two.
http://votetruth08.com/index.php/media/videos?task=videodirectlink&id=2 "
wtf wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:59 AM:
Theres Chuck Baldwin for the Constitution Party, Ralph Nader for the Peace and Freedom Party, Bob Barr for the Libertarian Party and Cynthia McKinney for the Green Party. I recognized all the names; but the one that jumped out at me was Cynthia McKinney. "
wtf wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:58 AM:
You have definitely lost it, my friend. I have no idea what you are talking about.
DanielH no one asked you to watch the videos. They are there for those who wish to do so; but you may be right about no election come November. "
DanielH wrote on Sep 11, 2008 5:21 AM:
Just 1 year after the election, the headlines will read about how the American people (the citizens) disapprove of their new president.
Frankly, I'm still not convinced that there is going to be an election. "
DanielH wrote on Sep 11, 2008 5:16 AM:
DanielH wrote on Sep 11, 2008 5:13 AM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 11, 2008 12:21 AM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 11, 2008 12:17 AM:
longtimesubscriber wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:16 PM:
wtf wrote on Sep 10, 2008 2:01 PM:
Ron Paul Third Party Press Conference September 10, 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz7maOrGW3Y
Text:
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=483 "
wtf wrote on Sep 10, 2008 1:24 PM:
reruns of 'Matlock'."
- Jay Leno
- and -
Top Ten Signs You're Talking to a Fake Kim Jong-Il
10. Doesn't smile when you mention torturing dissidents
9. He's 6'5'', 250 pounds
8. Introduces himself by saying, "Hi, I'm Gary uh, crap, I mean Kim Jong-Il"
7. He seems Kimmy and Jongy, but not quite Illy
6. Your wife recognizes him as the Kim Jong-Il look-alike who stripped at her bachelorette party
5. Keeps using the phrase, "Chillax, bro"
4. He pays for drinks
3. Won't shut up about the new "90210"
2. He's only half insane
1. Keeps referring to himself as "just a hockey mom" "
wtf wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:51 AM:
On the following link
http://www.richhumor.com/2008/01/28/the-castle-at-ibizancp/
Click on the link
TheCastleatIbiza.pps
Click through the powerpoint presentation until you get to the photo - the photo that will explain Palin's presence in the prez race...and wait because there's a message for you. ;) "
wtf wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:29 AM:
Georgia war is a neocon election ploy
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/12/EDCD129NI4.DTL
In the Caucasus, a fake cold war
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080831/focus/focus3.html "
Lodian wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:47 AM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65NbUl183y8 "
sam wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:28 AM:
THANK YOU. I saw that. Georgia attacked first. AND once Russia rushed in to help the people of South Ossetia, did you notice the President of Georgia in a live interview asked "where is McCain and his help."
NOT where is the US or where is Bush. That whole issue is suspicious. "
wtf wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:39 AM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65NbUl183y8 "
wtf wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:31 AM:
http://benfrank.net/patriots/news/national/pentagon_missing_trillions
Read the following on another website:
"But lucky for Don, the very next day the media had something else to look at, and even luckier for Don, the airplane that hit the Pentagon circled around the building and slammed into the section of the very offices where auditors were trying to find just who wound up with all that cash.
"Lucky, lucky, Don." "
wtf wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:08 AM:
http://www.neatorama.com/2008/09/04/a-free-thinker-is-satans-slave/ "
wtf wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:05 AM:
What about the upcoming Hurricane Ike? And where is McLame?
http://www.bestsyndication.com/?q=20080909_hurricane_ike_update_gulf_of_mexico_texas.htm
Oh, that's right! McLame can't use this hurricane as a photo op; so tough cookies for those in its path. "
wtf wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:56 AM:
The simple fact is, **all** news agencies spin their stories to suit their agendas; however, if you look at U.S. sources and then at Russian sources, you will find, hopefully, somewhere in the middle, a close proximity of the actual events.
Once again, Ron Paul calls it. In the video below, the gov shill tries to paint Russia as the aggressor and this is how the U.S. MSM has painted it. They began reporting when Russia retaliated by invading Georgia AFTER Georgia had been the aggressor by invading South Ossetia and killing Russian Peacekeepers.
But because you have such a narrow grasp of the obvious, you wouldn't be aware of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygg2uWsKK6w "
Cogito wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:40 AM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:37 AM:
wtf wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:35 AM:
Because, Bloviato, deployed soldiers **do** have to vote absentee and they have, respectively, supported Ron Paul and Obama, more than McLame.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/08/the-new-von-spakovsky-voter-suppression-crusade-absentee-ballots/
http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=9183
Failing suppression of absentee voters, caging voters, etc., the neocons will, or course, fall back on rigging the vote via "we deliver votes" Diebold.
http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/09/09/1426246.shtml
**This** is what those fake "polls" in the MSM are setting the American public up for...the stealing of another election.
**************BREAKING NEWS************
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/diebold_accidentally_leaks "
TAnDC wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:34 AM:
Think for yourself instead of just being one of those bahhhs in the sheepherd. "
TAnDC wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:30 AM:
TAnDC wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:29 AM:
He'll certainly give the "bobber" Mr. Dole a run for the Viagra commercial spot, if nothing else.
I think the :swiftboaters" are about ready to be unleashed on McCain, and reveal the real truth about his preferential treatment in the "hospital" POW camp. "
Cogito wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:26 AM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:22 AM:
wtf wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:16 AM:
CNN's legit, right?
OK, if you say so....
"Russia Today TV channel journalists, who worked in the city of Tskhinvali, accuse CNN of forgery in the coverage of the conflict between Georgia and South Ossetia, RIA Novosti reports." "
wtf wrote on Sep 10, 2008 7:30 AM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:54 AM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:49 AM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 9, 2008 11:30 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 9, 2008 11:25 PM:
voter wrote on Sep 9, 2008 9:36 PM:
All of this politics of personality makes me believe that reality TV has created a nation of idiots, incapable of discussing anything but gossip. Can we discuss policy issues? "
Cogito wrote on Sep 9, 2008 9:01 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 9, 2008 8:44 PM:
Robb wrote on Sep 9, 2008 4:32 PM:
wtf wrote on Sep 9, 2008 3:59 PM:
Wake Up, America! - The Morning After America's Blind Date with Sarah Palin
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Wake-Up-America--The-Mo-by-Robert-McElvaine-080908-126.html
Kind of reminds me of Tulipmania outlined in the book "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" Make sure to read the book's description.
http://www.ebookmall.com/ebook/164427-ebook.htm "
wtf wrote on Sep 9, 2008 3:53 PM:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-matzzie/john-mccains-lobbyists-th_b_102501.html "
wtf wrote on Sep 9, 2008 2:11 PM:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/And-Then-We-Will-Die-by-Angie-Riedel-080909-735.html "
wtf wrote on Sep 9, 2008 1:29 PM:
http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/page_poll.php?show=votes&pid=196
But this poll seems real popular, too.
http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/page_poll.php?show=votes&pid=195 "
Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2008 1:08 PM:
I'm sure you are referring of McCain. "
SportsGuru wrote on Sep 9, 2008 12:18 PM:
I'll hand it to the Democrats for nominating one of the few from its party that gives McCain..a fighting chance.
I gotta agree with you there. They seem to do that EVERY PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
Michael Dukakis (riding in that tank)
Al Gore (environmental robot)
John Kerry (purple heart mania)
Barak Obama (brain freeze)
They sure know how to pick 'em.
I cannot watch Obama speak off the cuff. He blinks, stammers and stutters so much that it is uncomfortable to watch. I think that is going to ultiimately irritate the public when the debates come around. HE OVERTHINKS EVERYTHING and doesn't speak from the heart. "
wtf wrote on Sep 9, 2008 11:37 AM:
Fannie, Freddie rescue binds taxpayers to housing market
And this was in the article:
"In a worst case, the cost could run well above the roughly $125 billion that taxpayers spent in the early 1990s to insure depositors in failed savings-and-loan institutions, some mortgage-market experts say."
Say didn't that crisis happen under Daddy Bush with another Bush son, Neil was it, connected with one of the banks that went under? Similar to McCain's son's involvement with the recent bank closure in Nevada.
http://news.yahoo.com/story//csm/20080909/ts_csm/atakeover
And here's a
BLAST FROM THE PAST
This is what Ron Paul had to say about Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and bailouts - get this - ***FIVE YEARS*** ago tomorrow.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul128.html
And yet, the neocon "news" call Ron Paul "fringe"???!!!? "
wtf wrote on Sep 9, 2008 11:03 AM:
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html "
wtf wrote on Sep 9, 2008 8:30 AM:
Lodian thanks for the comment at 10:22 pm Sep 8. I noticed Robb never gave me an account of what he considers an "educated" vote; but I really didn't think he would.
sam did you see Michelle Obama's speech? I have to say that hers is the only speech I watched in its entirety. She appeared polished and sincere and Obama looked tired on the screen.
Michelle Obama impressed me very much. But Palin, I couldn't stomach watching her. She reminded me too much of a staged product. The words "con job" and "harpy" kept coming to mind. "
voter wrote on Sep 9, 2008 6:58 AM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 9, 2008 12:32 AM:
Cogito: Hmmm, looks like you have the obsession with looks. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2008 11:36 PM:
Cogito: What the heck? That's just a bizarre comment. LOL! "
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 11:15 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 10:47 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 10:44 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2008 10:27 PM:
Cogito: No, I didn't even like my choices in the beginning, but I try to keep up with all that is going on and I have my eyes wide open. I think the old gray man you speak of is McCain. Is Palin Santa's little helper? "
Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2008 10:22 PM:
Robb: I don't think anyone here can honestly say that wtf is uneducated about Ron Paul. wtf has been a Ron Paul supporter for a long time. "
Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2008 10:19 PM:
sam: That's a good point. My kids are the same.. no land line. "
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 9:46 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 9:40 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 9:38 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 9:36 PM:
sam wrote on Sep 8, 2008 8:07 PM:
Also with kids of my own who are voters I know they do not have land phone lines. They are impossible to poll even though they are in their 30's. "
sam wrote on Sep 8, 2008 8:03 PM:
wtf wrote on Sep 8, 2008 7:22 PM:
This isn't true. I know a guy who works for a news station and he told me the poll numbers are rigged. In other words, they make up the numbers they want in order to INFLUENCE TV viewers on who to vote for.
It seems the neocons are going to try and steal another election. Check out the five or six corporations that own all the U.S. networks and think about who they want for prez, you'll see why McLame has suddenly "surged"
Actual numbers are closer to 70% for Obama vs. 30% or less for McSame. "
wtf wrote on Sep 8, 2008 7:18 PM:
Even the other members of Congress grudgingly admire him, and it was Ron Paul who called it on the housing bubble as well as the current Freddie and Fannie mess months ago.
If you think that's uneducated, you're entitled to your opinion; but what would you call an educated vote? "
wtf wrote on Sep 8, 2008 7:14 PM:
OTH wrote on Sep 8, 2008 7:10 PM:
The press is real quiet about John McCains affair he had. But I guess 100 million buys a lot of silence. Why is he any different than Clinton. Whom I abhor by the way. "
sam wrote on Sep 8, 2008 6:37 PM:
Huh?
The companies aren't ( or weren't) taxpayer funded but operated as private companies.
scary stuff. "
Robb wrote on Sep 8, 2008 6:03 PM:
All i am saying is a vote for mr paul, is an uneducated one.. "
wtf wrote on Sep 8, 2008 4:29 PM:
I was only having a bit of fun, too, Cogito. I read you just fine...it seems that neocons are so obtuse they have trouble reading sarcasm. LOL!
This time, I **really** have things to do; but I promise to check back and see what inane comment you come up with. ;) "
Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2008 3:28 PM:
Ohhh, snap!
Cogito wrote "Do you really think that the msm has done their job informing us about who Obama really is?"
Again...more questions when answers were requested. Geez louise!
Oh, and yes, the dirt diggers have tried very hard to get something on Obama. They came up short. "
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 2:12 PM:
wtf wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:59 PM:
O-o-o.K.
Think I'll leave the board to you and girard so you can pat each other on the back.... "
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:56 PM:
wtf wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:51 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:50 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:49 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:47 PM:
wtf wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:46 PM:
Your loss. It explains your ignorance. "
wtf wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:45 PM:
Ventura was a bit rough; but he made some sense. Apparently, you didn't bother to actually **listen** "
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:44 PM:
wtf wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:43 PM:
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/sarah-palins-mother-in-law-considering-voting-for-barack-obama/12578 "
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:43 PM:
wtf wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:35 PM:
Don't think he's getting a pass; it seems like the MSM is "Ron Pauling" him....you know, ignoring him so they can showcase McLame.
Speaking of Johnny Boy, a lot of posts have questioned his potential as a prez due to his temper and that little red button that can start a nookular ;) war.
You're not alone. A LOT of people are asking the same question along with questions about Palin's vindictiveness. In McSame's case, the questions have been around for several years.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/19991031/aponline183823_000.htm
http://www.theimproper.com/Template_Article.aspx?IssueId=5&ArticleId=2301
D*mn! My boat's getting full of those flippy-floppy fish....even the neocons are fliping and flopping.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/09/conservatives-love-mccain-they-really-love-him.php
Regarding Jon Stewart's comparison of Bush/McSame, here's the clip
http://www.theinformationparadox.com/2008/09/jon-stewart-obliterates-mccains.html "
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:31 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:29 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:28 PM:
Cogito: When did you get so paranoid? LOL! "
Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:27 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:27 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:15 PM:
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:13 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:12 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:09 PM:
lodisafeway: That's why Obama will win this election. The truth is already pouring out about Palin and it's only been a few days for her turn at scrutiny. The McCain's camp at attempting to bring on the surprise glitz and show that they feel is Palin has already started to fizzle. "
wtf wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:09 PM:
LOL! I sure did! I chose to ignore it and post some of the flip-flops of McCain and Palin....since girard is so intent on **change** I decided to **change** the name(s). "
Cogito wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:07 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:01 PM:
Lodian wrote on Sep 8, 2008 12:57 PM:
wtf wrote "lodisafeway wrote: "Time (the great equalizer in politics) has exposed him for what he is - just a politician that changes his position with the political wind."
wtf: You do know that lodisafeway was talking about Obama here, right? "