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The Presidency is not on-the-job training


Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:21 AM PDT

In response to Angelo P. Bocchi's letter on Aug. 19, I feel very saddened to think Mr. Bocchi thinks the American people do not know the difference between experienced and inexperienced, that we would vote for Barack Obama only if he were "white." I wouldn't vote for him if he were green!

The White House is not kindergarten, Mr. Bocchi. It is not a place where one goes to "learn" how things work. It's the top of the line, and if you are fortunate enough to achieve to the highest place in our land, you had better know how to run it. At 3 a.m. and the red phone rings, I want whoever answers it to be able to make quick, decisive decisions right then and not one who will hang up, think about what he'll do and then call back to the party who called.

My sister was a flight attendant for American Airlines when her plane went into the Towers on 9/11 (she happened to have a day off, thank God) and no one thought something so horrible could happen on American soil. I pray to God it never happens again, but I'm afraid it will. We live in a world of uncertainty and I personally want someone to be in charge that has experience, wisdom and the guts to act swiftly. Mr. Obama has so much to learn before leading our country. It's not a matter of Democrat, Republican, Independent, white, black, green or yellow, it's who has the most experience in a time of need. In my heart, John McCain has shown me that I can put my trust and faith in, knowing he'll do the very best to ensure another 9/11 will never happen again.

Oh, by the way, yes, we need off shore drilling too. This means that Mrs. Pelosi needs to let Congress vote the way they want and not put her own restrictions on it. People are tired of the high prices at the pumps. She should have never left San Francisco. They love her there.

Sheila Butler
Lodi

Reader Feedback

falcon wrote on Sep 6, 2008 11:34 AM:

" voter, I did read the entire article. I see the paranoia. It is still far fetched (my opinion) to think that by some light waving of the magic wand, abortion is going to be outlawed in the United States. I feel the same toward the right wing kooks that think that women should be jailed. How is it going to happen? Law has to be passed. Law that will not see the light of day.

It is not going to happen, so using abortion as single issue criteria for selecting a candidate is silly to me. You would elect to pay more taxes to the government, increase regulation on business, and shackle capital because people voted for a candidate that has a position on abortion that will never matter. Is this idea that abortion will be outlawed really realistic? "

Lodian wrote on Sep 6, 2008 10:17 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:44 PM:

" Gotta go, grandson has a soccer game at 8:30 a.m. 4 year olds playing soccer......riveting stuff. "

Cogito: T-ball is soooo much more exciting! (NOT!)

Enjoy "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 6, 2008 9:00 AM:

" voter...
Regarding the article: WOW, incredible. "

voter wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:41 AM:

" Falcon, You didn't read the whole article from the Washington Post. You only read the first couple of paragraphs. That's obvious. Read it. "

real facts wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:28 AM:

" the idea that any woman has the right to choose whether or not a human being lives or dies is preposterus. women don't have rights that cancel out Gods rights over their life. in corinthians 6:19 it clearly states that all of us belong to God, and that our bodies are not our own, because HE bought them. that cancels out the right to choose whether a life growing in you lives or dies.

your womb is NOT your property. it belongs to God the creator, and HE decides life/death "

real facts wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:17 AM:

" ("sam wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:46 PM:
" Leonard, did you hear Palin's reason for Israel's problems? They have not accepted Jesus Christ").

i didn't hear her say it, but if she did, she was 100% correct as the jew's (by and large) have rejected Christ as their savior.

if she said it, she was accuretly echoing what the bible itself says about the jews, especially pertinent post-Christ and pre-judgement. "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:53 PM:

" Good chatting with you. I am pulling the pin. You have to love this country and the internet. Anonymity and free speech. No yelling just text. Internet to research statements. The truth rises to the top. I love it. We live in a great time. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:51 PM:

" falcon, I agree whole heartedly.

Not quite the argument you were after, eh? "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:50 PM:

" Acampo mom, it is weird out there, conservatives do not like McCain, and lots of dems did not like Obama. History will be made either way. It would be cool if we could flush both down the drain and start over. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:48 PM:

" Oh...let me re-phrase that

I'm actually very disappointed in the choices presented to me. "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:47 PM:

" Alright, it is midnight, who wants to argue? WAKE UP LIBS! "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:47 PM:

" falcon...I wasn't trying to be sarcastic either. I wasn't sure if you had seen my post on the matter. I've never actually said I was voting for Obama. I liked him in the beginning, but his policies on partial birth, and immigration turned me off. I'm actually VERY disappointed at my choices. Do I have to vote? What if I don't like either of them? I was looking for a good independent, but that would end up being like I didn't vote anyway.

I feel like if I don't vote, I don't have any right to complain about what happens. I wish they would have a bubble to fill in labeled "None of the above, but I retain the right to bitch and moan" "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:46 PM:

" Cog, maybe you could get federal money. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:44 PM:

" Gotta go, grandson has a soccer game at 8:30 a.m. 4 year olds playing soccer......riveting stuff. "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:44 PM:

" The other fact in this anti abortion fear is that even if it were overturned, it would revert back to the states. It is highly unlikely that abortion could be banned in the US in my lifetime. I do not give a rats rear end who is the President. The kooks on the right and the kooks on the left need to forgetaboutit. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:41 PM:

" That's "to" not "top" "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:39 PM:

" I CAN'T HELP MYSELF! I'M A JUNKIE! Do you think I could get the bleeding hearts top call my weakness a disease too, like alcoholism and drug addiction? "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:39 PM:

" Acampo Mom, I know that you are against it. I did not know if you knew that Obama voted to deny a live baby medical treatment, for fear that it would interfere with the intention of the mother to terminate it? I do not think that you would agree. Could you vote for Obama knowing that or does it not matter? I am not trying to be sarcastic, just wondering how far one would ride down the river? "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:37 PM:

" There is WAAAAAAY too much money made by the big pharma on birth control to ever get it banned. They give way too much money to way too many politicians for one person to take them on. And condoms are used to prevent the spread of disease, they could never be banned. You have to be a little realistic here, and use some reason. It helps to alleviate unwarranted hand wringing over a non-issue. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:37 PM:

" Cogito...ok...she won't have that kind of power, still not really the point.

And yes I'm very aware that Roe has turned pro-life.

And yes I lied...I let you engage me, YET AGAIN.

LOL "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:35 PM:

" Palin appeals to the base of the party. She is pro life, pro gun, smaller government, drill for oil. It is the shotgun approach for McCain. He knocked it out of the park. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:33 PM:

" falcon...you did see that I said "And for the record I am against so called "late term" or "partial birth" abortions." Right?

What would I say about someone who would vote to do this??? Not sure I really understand the question. For someone who wants to make it legal? Or keep it legal? Are you wondering why I'm not bashing Obama over his stance on this? I'm not in agreement with Obama with his views of partial birth abortions. Though he isn't entirely FOR it, he says if it threatens the life of the mother or child, it should be allowed. Which still doesn't make sense to me really, because if the baby is old enough to live outside the womb, then it is adoptable.

I don't know if that really answered your question. It's all a very slippery slope really. Education and prevention is key.

I'm not big on Obama's immigration policies either...but that might be an argument for another day. "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:33 PM:

" Cogito, what about Oprah dissing Palin? That is going to hurt her. I have heard that US subscriptions have been dropped as well. American women are striking back at the anti Palin media. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:31 PM:

" Finally Acampomom, I think McCain is using Palin to appeal to the religious right, where he is weak due to his liberal record. Any gender specific voters he were to pick up along the way would just be a bonus. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:28 PM:

" Acampo mom, for the last time, the Vice President of the United States has no power to overturn Roe v. Wade. ( Did you know that "Jane Roe" has become a fervent pro life advocate?). It is irrelevant. I'm done with you too. "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:20 PM:

" Acampo mom, I could not understand who could be for late term abortions. How anyone who would vote to deny a baby that was alive, medical care, so that it would die, is beyond my pay grade. How anyone could support infanticide like this makes me question their judgment. What do you have to say about a person that would vote to do this? "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:14 PM:

" voter, are you sure on Bush Sr. being pro choice? "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:07 PM:

" voter, I read the article. All it said is that Bush wants to allow medical workers, who do not want to perform abortions, for religions reasons, the right not to be forced to do so. This is like the lady getting killed for being a witch because she floats, because witches are made of wood. How you get to illegal abortion from not forcing a medical worker to perform an abortion is far fetched.

I think that both Bush appointed justices have each stated that they observe continuity in the rulings and for them at this point, to rule counter to Roe v. Wade, is also far fetched. It is not going to happen. Even with Alito and Roberts. They would not vote to overturn existing constitutional rulings. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:04 PM:

" Cogito...I am curious. If I had only listed that Palin is against birth control and sex education...and never mentioned the abortion issue, would this still have been an argument? I don't know anyone who really LIKES the reality of abortion. You've put words in my mouth, to make it seem as if I'm some sort of abortion cheerleader. I was trying to make a point, that if Palin had it her way, she would take ALL choices away. Someone who firmly believes that a woman has a right to make her own reproductive choices, and doesn't like the idea of a government official even attempting to take that away, isn't going to vote for her. I thought it funny that McCain was trying to use her to swing Hillary supporters to his side, when they (Hillary supporters) are so clearly pro-choice.

And for the record I am against so called "late term" or "partial birth" abortions.

So if you are going to continue to argue ONLY about abortion...know that you are no longer arguing with me. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:00 PM:

" Let me put this scenario before you. Gay people say that their born that way, that a "gay gene" exists, and they'd prefer to prove it's existence. That nurture is out of the picture in the argument of sexual dysfunction. So, let's say that we find it, and it can be isolated in an amniotic test. Would you support the right of a mother to be able to have this test, and the right of this mother to abort a fetus with a high probability factor for homosexuality, just because she wants grandchildren someday? Would you support her reproductive right to do so? How do you think gay America would accept this? We already have a test to determine the sex of a fetus during the abortion window. It is usually requested by people of a culture where having a male child is important. It is illegal to have this test for possible gender gleaning. Yet, the overwhelming number of women who have this procedure, and later abort, abort female babies. Would you take away a womans right to determine the sex of her progeny? "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:44 PM:

" Voter, I was just trying to get you to bite. Obama is for the rights of individual states to ban late term abortions. I guess you were too tired. DANG! "

voter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:38 PM:

" So are you saying that Bush Sr. and Nixon had no compassion for humanity? "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:15 PM:

" Late term abortion is all about killing a viable fetus while it is still in the womb. A wand pierces the fetus' head, sucking out it's brain, in order to make it stillborn.( I apologize for the graphic nature of the truth). If labor were induced, the child could be born alive, and live a normal life. Killing it in the womb, while it is still attached to the umbilical chord, makes it legal. If you don't find that disgusting, barbaric, heinous, and the act of a hedonistic sub-human lowlife, then I guess that's your opinion, and it says a lot about your compassion for humanity. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:05 PM:

" Like I said voter, many of us consider innocent unborn life to have a right to life. It's a human rights issue to us. We are simply advocating for those human beings who are unable to advocate for themselves. Do you believe in a womans right to kill a viable fetus? "

voter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:41 PM:

" Wow, and here I thought abortion was the hot button issue to rally the religious right. After all, opposition to abortion on the Republican platform is relatively recent. Nixon and Bush Sr. both supported a woman's right to chose during their tenures. Wouldn't it be great if both sides just dropped the subject and let everyone make their own decision? Oh, wait, that's the liberal position now days. Hmmm . . . "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:34 PM:

" Falcon, the real answer is: It ain't gonna happen. What the abortion issue is, is a common scare tactic used by liberals, to rally the liberal troops, when they've got nothing else valid to stand on. There you have it, I rest my case. "

voter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:05 PM:

" falcon, I do not have all of the pieces of the puzzle, but let me tell you how McCain and Palin could effectively end choice in this country for most women. Bush has already done all the advance work. I read this article in the Washington Post a month or so ago.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/30/AR2008073003238.html

I have not checked up on the situation since, but what is occurring is that the Bush folks have reclassified most birth control as abortion. I know it sounds crazy, but read the full article for the widespread implications. Second, the next president will likely set the direction of the supreme court for decades to come. A couple of more anti-choice justices, a challenge to R v. W. and rights begin to shrivel, access denied. "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:02 PM:

" Someone tell me what chain of events would have to happen for abortion to become illegal in the US. I am wondering why, if it is so easy, it has not happened already? "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:53 PM:

" OK, Leonard, Acampomom, and all pro abortion people. I need an education. I keep wondering how the President of the United States or the VP is going to overturn Roe v. Wade and make it illegal for a women to get an abortion. I am sincere about this because I just do not know. How is that legally going to happen? How could it happen? What has to happen for it to happen? I want to know where the fear is coming from because I do not understand mechanically how it could happen. Please explain this to me so I have a better understanding. "

Madman wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:27 PM:

" Cogito, I am not Leonard. Thank you for your honest response. "

Lodian wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:24 PM:

" LOL! "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:16 PM:

" But they still like to run my life. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:15 PM:

" Besides Lodian, I've always been attracted to conservative Christian Republican women. They're SOOOOOOOOO much hotter than those pent up angry liberal women. "

Lodian wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:12 PM:

" Yikes!!!!! "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:07 PM:

" Lodian, I'm married, otherwise you may be in danger:-) "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:06 PM:

" I'm sorry, that was a response to madman, not my buddy Leonard. "

Lodian wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:05 PM:

" There's only one thing to say. Stay out of my womb. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:04 PM:

" Leonard, yes I do step up to the plate. He lives with us, goes to public pre-school, I buy his food and clothing, His father pays child support out of his Army Special Forces paycheck, and he is on his fathers medical policy. We pay over 50k a year in taxes, if we can get any of it back in the form of financial aid for his moms college, trust me, we'll do it. He will grow up to be a taxpayer someday too. No welfare state around here, except for my wallet. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:58 PM:

" Acampo mom, you think pro choice is a womens rights issue, I think pro-life is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE! Ronald Reagan tried to get Roe V Wade overturned too! It couldn't be done! The Supreme Court will decide the issue and John McCain has a history of supporting the most liberal nominees to the court. As far as getting you fired up earlier, I like to push peoples buttons, it makes doing this a lot more interesting. If you read Leonard, he does the same thing. But that doesn't mean we don't mean what we say. You decide. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:41 PM:

" So in that case Hillary supporters should vote for her because of her female status, and disregard her stances on women's issues?

Oh and the Pres and Veep have A LOT more influence than our county supervisors. If her role in government as VP was so minuscule, no one would be interested in her at all. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:33 PM:

" Cogito:

You said:"...being anti-abortion does not mean VP candidate Palin will take anyone's right to an abortion away. It's just a position on the issue."

Actually, you're wrong there...her and McCain are both gunning to get Roe v. Wade overturned. She is against abortion...in ALL forms for ANY reasons. She is against sex ed, in ALL forms except to promote abstinence. And she's against women using birth control...married or not.

This is not JUST an abortion issue...this is a WOMEN'S RIGHTS issue. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:25 PM:

" Acampo mom, what you're failing to acknowledge is what power she would have to do anything about it. VP is not Dictator. Those are only her views. We supposedly have a balance of powers in this country that disallow a single point of view to be imposed on us. There are many more pressing, important concerns for our country than an impotent VPs viewpoint on issues he or she can do nothing about as an individual. Do you vote for or against your county supervisor based on their abortion stance? Because, trust me, they can't do anything about it. "

Brian wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:14 PM:

" " The wires will be announcing that the Government is going to take over the healthcare system if Obama is elected.

I wonder whether Leonard or his cronies will surface to tell us that everything is really going great. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:07 PM:

" Cogito...my arguments regarding Palin as being anti-women's rights don't revolve around just the abortion thing. I take issue with her desire to do away with ALL options available.

Education and prevention are what will go a long way to keep abortions from happening. It's that she wants to do away with all three. Do you understand what I'm getting at here? This entire argument we've been having has been about abortion. I am NOT an abortion advocate, I advocate keeping women's current rights WHOLE.

I have to defend myself, when someone attacks my character the way that you did.

You said:"Maybe you consider calling an abortion the killing of an unborn baby harsh." No, I don't think that harsh at all, you can call it what it is. What I took as harsh was your very first comment:"I find it odd that someone who likes children enough to put "mom" in her blog name has no problem with other mothers murdering their babies in the womb.

That comment is what got me up in arms. "

Madman wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:03 PM:

" Cogito, I know you love your grandson, but I would like to know are your stepping up to the plate to pay for him, food, education, healthcare, whatever, or am I, the taxpayer? "

sam wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:55 PM:

" Cog, very cool. Thank you. I was ready to pounce on you, but I had the feeling an 8 year old pregnant baby (which I have seen before ... it is SO SAD ) is something that should be addressed. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:53 PM:

" McCain voted FOR Ginsberg, Souter, and Bryer, the most liberal members of the Supreme court. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:50 PM:

" By the way, I'm pro choice on rape, incest, and life of the mother. I also believe that nobody has the right to stop someone from having a legal procedure. Like Sam, being anti-abortion does not mean VP candidate Palin will take anyone's right to an abortion away. It's just a position on the issue. "

sam wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:46 PM:

" Leonard, did you hear Palin's reason for Israel's problems? They have not accepted Jesus Christ. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:44 PM:

" Leonard, many times God answers prayers to those who ask. Try it sometimes. Works for me. "

sam wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:44 PM:

" Scout and Acampo_Mom, I am anti-abortion also. I know how I would respond to an unwanted pregnancy. I do not believe I have the right to dictate to another woman who does not share my beliefs, what she should do with her body.

I am truly blessed that neither I nor my daughter was raped and impregnated at 8 years old. I have no idea how I would react. I have no right to judge another.

Thank you so much for your honest posts. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:37 PM:

" Leonard, the government lowered the bar to allow marginal borrowers to buy houses. Lenders used these lower standards, in what were often predatory situations, just to make loans and commissions. Greenspan should have been keeping a closer watch on the fly by night operators. Since the government was highly responsible for the loose lending laws, I think they should clean up the mess. But they obviously never learned anything from the s&l debacle in the 80s. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:29 PM:

" Acampo mom, Maybe you consider calling an abortion the killing of an unborn baby harsh. But that fetus, left to grow in it's mothers womb would almost surely become a human being. As harsh as it sounds, it is a fact. My mother became pregnant with me at 18, so my father married her. I'm pretty sure that if abortion were readily available at the time, I would not be here. My father was a very self-centered man, and an atheist up until cancer had him near death. He probably would have tried to talk her into it. How else can you look at that but killing me had they made that "choice". I don't condemn the person, I condemn the act. A 15 year old is really a tough choice, and it IS a crisis at that age. My daughter had multiple offers to adopt my grandson. Desperate people who wanted a newborn. I wish more people would adopt older children. But just because they don't, doesn't mean those kids don't have a right to be a member of the human race. I think having the baby is less traumatic to the mothers longterm psyche, than abortion. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:12 PM:

" The wires are announcing that the Government is going to take over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

I wonder whether Girard or his pal Safeway will surface to tell us that everything is really going great.

No more years, that's what I say. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:00 PM:

" I heard some tape of Palin foaming at the mouth about how God told her to build a pipeline across Alaska.

What a loon! "

scout wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:48 PM:

" Enlightening: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:04 AM:

" Cogito: I had my first daughter when I was 19...your daughter and I am not THAT different. I think it's great that her family was there for her. What about those girls/women who's families are NOT there for them? Who have NO help? I've made it very clear to my girls that they can come to me about ANYTHING and that I will always back them up. Not everyone is that fortunate....But your implication that people who believe in their right to choose just want to murder babies...is so...offensive.

A 15 year old girl who gets pregnant, and who comes from an economically disadvantaged family, is NOT the same as a 19 year old woman that has a stable, economically thriving family, to stand behind her.

To tell you the truth, I believe in adoption before abortion...but that just isn't going to resonate with everyone, many young girls will try to hide pregnancies and terminate them in secrecy. Making abortion illegal will not solve anything, except to quiet the anti-abortionists. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:54 AM:

" scout: I wish I was able to make a point as succinctly as you. My long ramblings made me sound like a monster to Cogito, I suppose.

The fact that anyone ever feels like they must resort to abortion is a shame. It would be terrible to have that choice to make, but it is a reality. Taking away ALL options is just not realistic. "

scout wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:38 AM:

" On another note, I also find the Republican sexist accusations to anyone who disagrees with S. Palin on the issues to be of poor logic and childish. News flash: expecting women to go against everything they believe in and vote for S. Palin simply because she is a woman is sexist. "

scout wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:33 AM:

" I chuckle at the fact that Republicans preach for a smaller government out of one side of their mouths but then cater to the religious right who in turn wants the government to control and regulate people's creed, the books they read, and their lives in the bedroom. I find the hypocrisy nauseating. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:26 AM:

" Cogito...I was actually expecting something...intelligent, about my comment. Not name calling. Not insults (well actually the insults should have been expected). But really...personal attacks are all you can come up with?

My point actually, was that most Hillary supporters are pro-choice, they aren't going to follow the candidates that are so vehemently against it.

And as far as my parental skills go...I'm raising two girls. I don't want their rights to be swept so carelessly under the rug. Anyone who doesn't take that into consideration, would probably make lousy parents anyway.

If you and your family have chosen to be pro-life...that is great. It would be wonderful if it was that easy. But your family's belief system isn't what I'm really all that concerned with (unless you are considering running for some office).

I'm more concerned that the leaders of the free world might soon be dictating our lives down to the very smallest of details, starting with women's reproductive rights. "

scout wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:23 AM:

" I am personally against abortion. But making abortion illegal will just increase the number of illegal and dangerous abortions performed if the real issue of unwanted pregnancies is not addressed. Limiting access to birth control is not the answer. If the religious right really wanted to stop abortions they would recognize that many Americans choice to have pre-martial sex and they would encourage sex education programs and reduce barriers to obtaining contraception. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:22 AM:

" Unemployment is at 6.1% and McCain proposes the biggest tax increase in history on working families?

Are the Republicans insane? "

Leonard wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:20 AM:

" Its all fine and well for people to say that we should leave Palin's troubled family life out of the debate but, when a politician advocates abstinence in the public arena while concealing its failure in her own family, it seems to me that this then becomes a political issue. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:17 AM:

" There is only one word for people who oppose both birth control and abortion.

Idiots "

scout wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:17 AM:

" The stock market plummeted 300 points yesterday, and continues to go down today after the 5-year high unemployment rate was announced. What's McCain's plan? More tax cuts for those making $5 million a year plus? The last eight years are proof that "trickle down economic" doesn't actually "trickle down". Why? Turns out the executives don't share. They lay-off and outsource labor and then give themselves huge raises and ridiculous bonuses. Go figure. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:11 AM:

" Acampo mom, we practice what we preach here, when my daughter got pregnant 5 years ago when she was 19, and her boyfriend bailed at the news and joined the Army, she never had any inclinations to not have the baby. Despite the fathers demands and threats. She had to postpone her college plans for a while, but has resumed them. If you want to see the star of our family, he is on LNS reader photos, in the fishing and hunting section. He's the little guy holding the fish, wearing the yellow life jacket. That's what an unrealized abortion looks like. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:04 AM:

" Actually...what is absurd, is that Palin wants to get rid of abortion, and ALL birth control, and also NOT educate on how one might prevent it.
She wants to advocate abstinence. Great, advocate to your heart's content. I advocate that as well. What happens when that doesn't work? (As was the case in her house). What we will end up with is abortions done ILLEGALLY. That is where women's health issues come into play. That is when mental and emotional problems will REALLY rear their ugly heads.

I think it is a great idea that your wife wants to "help administer" a pregnancy crisis center. You do realize that the pregnancy isn't the actual crisis right? It's the next 18 years, that are really going to matter. If the girl didn't want to have the baby in the first place (to whom abortion wasn't an option), how well is that child going to be taken care of?

Be realistic...abstinence is NOT going to control unwanted pregnancies...Plan B (emergency contraceptive) might, but of course that has almost as much controversy surrounding it as abortion. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:58 AM:

" Gotta go to work unfortunately, talk amongst yourselves, Cog out! "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:56 AM:

" Acampo mom, so according to your line of thinking, any woman who is anti-abortion is no woman at all? Because there are MILLIONS of them. The largest PRO abortion denographic in the US is MEN between the ages of 18 and 35. Are they good women? "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:53 AM:

" Really Acampo mom, I don't want those who would do something that immoral to have children in the first place. I find them genetically defective. They would probably make lousy parents anyway. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:50 AM:

" Palin considers herself a Feminist, and has risen to the top of the heap politically. As high as only one woman before her. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:47 AM:

" Cogito...how holier than thou of you! I most certainly don't want a government dictating what I can and can't decide about my own reproduction. Women don't want abortion to "murder" babies, and you know that! It's a choice that should be afforded us as women, if when, a pregnancy won't provide a good outcome, or even a viable one. And if you want to take that away...you want us to have NO options to prevent it??? And wait, social programs are obviously off the table too. So where does that leave women? Probably doesn't matter in your book, Cogito, as you are obviously anti woman yourself with that very intelligent comment of yours. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:46 AM:

" I think abortion is one of the largest underlying causes of unresolved mental and emotional issues in women. When they call abortion a womens health issue, they conveniently ignore mental health. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:40 AM:

" While in office, Ronald Reagan tried his best to overturn Roe vs. Wade, it never happened. To call Palin "anti woman" because she is pro-life is absurd. My wife and daughters are all pro-life and they are just as much woman as anyone here. My wife wants to use her MBA, and Fortune 500 corporate experience, to help administer a pregnancy crisis center. She wants to help save unborn children from the abortionist murderers. You think that makes her less a woman than you Acampo mom? "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:28 AM:

" I find it odd that someone who likes children enough to put "mom" in her blog name has no problem with other mothers murdering their babies in the womb. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:26 AM:

" Delaware, 2nd smallest state in the US (1954 sq. miles) Alaska, LARGEST state in the US (656,424 sq. miles). Alaska has the LOWEST tax burden in the US, couldn't find info on Delaware, but you can't get lower than lowest. "

Acampo_Mom wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:23 AM:

" It didn't take much digging to find out what I needed to know about Palin. On the contrary, I merely needed to scratch the surface.

Palin is:
Anti abortion (she would like to overturn Roe v. Wade)
Anti birth control
Anti sex education
Anti...WOMAN, as it seems.

This wolf in sheep's clothing could set us women back 50 years.

If McCain truly thought he would get all the Hillary supporters by using Palin, he thought wrong. They aren't going to abandon their beliefs just to vote a (non)woman in. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:04 AM:

" Number of electoral votes: Alaska (3), Delaware (3). Yep, Biden is SOOOOOOO much more important because of the GIGANTIC state HE represents (but doesn't run). Oh, this stuff is too good! "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:59 AM:

" I wonder if Biden is going to pull the "I know Hillary, and you are no Hillary on Palin? Plagiarism is one of Bidens notable traits. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:49 AM:

" Falcon, good research heh heh heh heh. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:48 AM:

" The Biden/Palin debate will ROCK! I can't wait! "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:47 AM:

" Cogito, the two guys are the guy that flew the jet she sold on ebay and the driver of her car that she fired. "

Audi 5000 wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:47 AM:

" Just because much is not immediately known about a person doesn't mean the person doesn't know much. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:46 AM:

" Population of Alaska: 683,478 (47th) (2007 estimate). Population of Delaware: 864,767 (45th) (2007 estimate). There you go. Biden is from SOOOOOO much a bigger state ROTFLMAO! "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:46 AM:

" Leonard, 2 out of 3 is 66% not 80%. 8 out of 10 like her and the other 2 are guys like you and voter. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:39 AM:

" That third guy is just an Eskimo who woke up on the wrong side of the igloo, he'll come around. "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:38 AM:

" voter, do you think that Palin will look as foolish as Joe Biden when he consistently sticks his foot in his mouth.

Biden: "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy."

Stephanopoulos: "You were asked: 'Is he ready?' You said, 'I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.'"

Biden on Obama: "In order to look tough, he's undermined his ability to be tough... "It's a well-intended notion he has, but its a very nave way of thinking how you're going to conduct foreign policy"... "The way to deal with it is not to announce it, but to do it. The last thing you want to do is telegraph to the folks in Pakistan that we are about to violate - quote - 'their sovereignty.'"... "Having talking points on foreign policy doesn't get you there."

Biden Assessing Obamas Iraq plan : My impression is [Obama] thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:38 AM:

" Leonard, I want to recommend some reading to you. Read both of Bernard Goldbergs books "Arrogance" and "Biased". Books by an Emmy winning Democrat reporter who will tell you what it's like in Americas msm newsrooms. If you are under the impression that the msm are straight shooters, you couldn't be more wrong. And here's an insider telling you what it's truly like. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:31 AM:

" That third guy is pretty ticked off though. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:30 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:14 AM:

" Also voter here is one fact we DO know about Palin, she has an 80% approval rating in her home state. That's higher than ANY Governor in the US. That you cannot dispute. "


Indeed. Two out of the three Alaskan's approve of her. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:29 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:11 AM:

" Voter, the 2 candidates with the least experience are B.O. and Palin. Yet ONLY B.O. is at the TOP of the ticket. YOU are the one with the thick skull here. What I meant by the 4 years is that I expect McCain to be president for at least 4 years, if not 8.


Statistically speaking, a vote for McCain is a vote for Palin as President. The odds of a 72 year old man with a history of cancer and other health problems serving out a four year term are not good.

McCain's Dad died of cancer at the age of 70 "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:14 AM:

" Also voter here is one fact we DO know about Palin, she has an 80% approval rating in her home state. That's higher than ANY Governor in the US. That you cannot dispute. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:11 AM:

" Voter, the 2 candidates with the least experience are B.O. and Palin. Yet ONLY B.O. is at the TOP of the ticket. YOU are the one with the thick skull here. What I meant by the 4 years is that I expect McCain to be president for at least 4 years, if not 8. I got my info at Yahoo answers. I'm sure you'll find that somehow wrong because it doesn't reinforce your personal belief system. The legwork for this act was put together before B.O. ever took office. "

falcon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:15 AM:

" Ohhhh yes he did, yes he did help with one bill and put his name on it. I know he did.. Wepublians ah liaus....

Sounds like Palin is more popular and experienced than Obama himself. We know that if Palin was not a threat, the libs would not be reacting to her. The fact that they are reacting so harshly toward this nobody without experience, is proof that the dems are afraid of her. They should be. She will be around for a few years now. She is hot too. Have I mentioned that before? SARAHCUDA SARAHCUDA... "

Brian wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:03 AM:

" Voter wrote: You still know almost nothing about her--she's not being allowed to give interviews because she knows nothing and would look utterly foolish. That says a lot.

Voter, How confident you are that she knows nothing. Do you take medication for your delusions? "

Leonard wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:50 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:16 PM:

" Falcon, FOX did outperform any other network, just not all other networks combined. They still won the ratings race despite being in fewer households. That says something about who America believes is telling them the truth.


No, it says something about Republican's hostility towards the truth. "

voter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:44 AM:

" You again attempt to defend Palin's experience, when you yourself admitted that she would not be ready to lead for another four years. You can stop defending now. Just admit it, you didn't know who Palin was a week ago. You still know almost nothing about her--she's not being allowed to give interviews because she knows nothing and would look utterly foolish. That says a lot. "

voter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:39 AM:

" cogito, whose words are you quoting? Obama traveled with Lugar to Russia and Europe to oversee all of the projects set up by the earlier bill. They noted problems together and wrote a new bill to be more effective. I am not sure why you feel this doesn't count. Even Lugar passed out press releases praising Obama's contributions. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:57 AM:

" O.K. voter, I did a little research on websites that weren't put out by politicians or wikipedians, and here's what I found. The "Lugar Obama Act", which was the second or third reincarnation of the "Nunn Lugar Act" that was introduced years earlier. "Obama had NO role in authoring the act" (their words, not mine). He simply signed on as a co-sponsor. "He did NOT have a direct hand in this bill". So there you go, your guy at his best, taking credit where credit isn't due. Got anything not quite as embarrassing? "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:36 AM:

" If you call a bill that only expanded on a previous bill and work by Nunn and Lugar. It sought to make sure it was properly funded. I think this IS good legislation, but I wouldn't rate it as highly as passing a budget for an entire state. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:29 AM:

" Lugar obama nonproliferation bill "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:27 AM:

" Voter, do you think Obama is ready from day one? How long will his advisers have to do his job before he is ready? Who will BE his advisers? Bill Ayers? Tony Rezko? George Soros? scary stuff! "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:24 AM:

" Michelle Obama was promoted and given a 160% pay raise by U of C hospitals within months of her husband being elected to the senate. Her employer received a 1,000,000 dollar federal earmark, requested by her husband, after her promotion. "

voter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:23 AM:

" Good night, for now. Meet up with you later. "

voter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:21 AM:

" You don't pick a VP based on how healthy the Presidential candidate looks. Can Palin govern from day one? She admitted that she didn't even know what the VP is supposed to do. YOu know, I think it would be more realistic and honest to say that you support your party, regardless of who they have nominated. There is no need for you to defend her. If they had selected Winnie-the_Pooh you would all be gushing over him. That's what's hilarious about party politics to me. Impossible to be an independent thinker when this is how you chose your candidates. "

voter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:18 AM:

" Actually, Obama has authored some important legislation--Palin lied about that in her speech. He coauthored the Lugar-Obama nonproliferation bill and also a sweeping ethics reform bill. Palin also lied about the Bridge to Nowhere. She supported it during her campaign for governor. "

voter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:15 AM:

" cogito, stop spouting the talk radio spew. You are so much more capable than that. You don't want to bring up the alleged associates. You will lose that one. track down Palin's preacher. Then there is Ted Stevens--she was chairman of his 527. Don't start with McCain--the lobbyists are a pandora's box you don't want to mess with. The Republicans have turned this election into a culture war and an orgy of personality mudslinging because they have no plan of their own--the brand is dead--the public is very angry with Bush and Obama's platform is not something they look good arguing against with middle class america. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:14 AM:

" And while Palin has been running a state for 2 years, B.O. has been running a campaign. Poor example my friend. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:12 AM:

" Voter, I think after 4 years under McCain, she will be capable of running for president against Hillary in 2012, in the first all woman presidential race in history. That to me would be a best case scenario. McCain looks pretty healthy to me. He looks like Truman with better eyesight. "

voter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:09 AM:

" When Barack Obama began his campaign, Palin's only experience was governing a town the size of Rio Vista. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:08 AM:

" B.O. said this election will be about change, and he picked one of the most entrenched, good old white boy, same old same old, running mates he could possibly pick. Or, the Democrats picked for him, due to his history of surrounding himself with felons, terrorists, hate mongering preachers, and other questionable characters. "

voter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:07 AM:

" Cogito, you don't think that a VP's readiness to lead would be an issue with a 72 year old candidate who's had four bouts with cancer? Seriously. What exactly is your understanding of the VPs roll? VPs have assumed the presidency many times--and always unexpectedly. Shouldn't the VP be FULLY qualified to assume the presidency from day one? "

voter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:04 AM:

" The Palin pick was a desperate move. Even Karl Rove said it had nothing to do with governing the country, but was a play to the base. I guess this tells you how they feel about their base. Sorta insulting. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:03 AM:

" Voter, are you incapable of comparing apples to apples? The top of the ticket is McCain vs. Obama! "

Cogito wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:02 AM:

" Voter, you say Palin has been Governor of Alaska for only 2 years. When B.O. began his presidential campaign, he had been a Junior Senator for less than 150 days. Yes indeed, she has a superior resume'. "

voter wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:00 AM:

" It was the Republicans who tried to make the election all about experience. That's what's hysterical. They shot their own argument all to hell. As an independent, I have no stake in either party. It's just like watching a chess match. I will be voting for Obama this time. I've voted for a mix of candidates from both parties in the past. "

voter wrote on Sep 4, 2008 11:56 PM:

" Generally, VPs are selected because either a) they are the most experienced and capable candidate to assume the presidency in a crisis, or b)they are a long time trusted confidant who can be counted on to provide support and truth, or c)to pander to one segment or another of the electorate. Which one is Palin? McCain had others who were more qualified to chose from, he had a couple who were trusted confidants, there were a couple of other women and minorities that were very experienced, there were a couple of evangelicals with credentials. I had to laugh when he called Palin his "soulmate". He'd only met her once before last week. I wonder if Cindy knows he has another soulmate. Can you imagine McCain saying this about a man? LOL "

Cogito wrote on Sep 4, 2008 11:56 PM:

" O.K., I'm talking to you both. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 4, 2008 11:54 PM:

" Sorry nextel, I'm talking to voter. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 4, 2008 11:52 PM:

" I'm watching McCains speech on NBC. They're spending more time showing the gate crashing protesters than McCain. What a poor excuse for a network. I'm still looking for an empty seat, and I don't see one on my 50" Hi def. Maybe you need to get a new T.V. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 4, 2008 11:49 PM:

" Are you saying experience is important. And you're a B.O. supporter? That's hysterical! "

Cogito wrote on Sep 4, 2008 11:47 PM:

" Nextel, you're ignoring one important fact. She's not the head of the ticket and B.O. is. B.O. is the least qualified candidate to run for president in the last 100 years. Definitely less qualified than McCain. "

voter wrote on Sep 4, 2008 11:40 PM:

" Cogito, Palin was mayor of a town the size of Rio Vista. She's been governor for less than two years of a state with fewer citizens than Omaha, Nebraska. Her only trip out of the country was last year (a meet the troops mission). This is a pretty weak resume for the office she is seeking. You could make arguments supporting her personality, temperment, drive, etc., but experience is not her strong point. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 4, 2008 11:23 PM:

" Also Nextel, I saw a woman way more accomplished and qualified to be president than Barack Hussein Obama speak last night. Did you happen to catch it? Because more people watched her speech than watched B.O.s. The Governor of Alaska sounds much more like a leader to me than the Junior Senator from Illinois. At least she has a resume'. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 4, 2008 11:16 PM:

" Nextel, are you under the impression that they sell seats to these things? LOL! All seats are sat in on an invitation only basis, by dedicated party members who earned them through whatever means. Only those dedicated to either party are invited to attend. If there were empty seats, it wasn't because people blew it off. LOL! "

nextel wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:26 PM:

" Anybody else notice all the empty seats tonight at this migration of over sized stiff white men? They tried to mask the empty seats with red, white and blue banners covering them and were careful not to pan up very often. You could also here echo's when the peanut gallery would boo or yell. McSame sounded like he was reading to the Country tonight. Other than his service to this Country and time spent as a POW, this speech was soulless and flat. McCain will beat us over the head with the POW part of his life until November, the same way Rotten Rudy used 9-11 through the primaries. McCain and his Dan Quail in a dress are done. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:16 PM:

" Falcon, FOX did outperform any other network, just not all other networks combined. They still won the ratings race despite being in fewer households. That says something about who America believes is telling them the truth. I watched it on CNN to hear the other sides perspective, and they were dazzled by her. B.O.s campaign has received 10 million dollars since her speech, in less than 24 hours. Sounds like they may just be a little concerned. Wait until the debates! "

Cogito wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:10 PM:

" The COOLEST fact is, as reported on the radio today, is that an estimated 40 million watched Palin's speech, and 38 million watched Obama's speech. Virtually a dead heat. But both speeches were watched by more households than the final show of "American Idol". That's a good thing for our country. "

falcon wrote on Sep 4, 2008 9:58 PM:

" voter said, You seem to be challenged mathematically, falcon. Your numbers show that the vast majority of viewers were actually tuned to a network other than Fox. "

voter, I guess that you could say that about all of those networks couldn't you. "

falcon wrote on Sep 4, 2008 9:51 PM:

" voter, beating free TV is pretty tough because less people have cable. "

falcon wrote on Sep 4, 2008 9:49 PM:

" voter, you are right, but head to head, fox was on top. You do not know who or who did not have cable. Still a big victory for Fox News. "

falcon wrote on Sep 4, 2008 9:47 PM:

" Leonard wrote, " I just heard Cindy McCain speaking about John McCain's "honor and honesty" and telling the adoring crowd how McCain "always kept his promises".

This from the woman who helped McCain break every last one of his wedding vows, the woman who rolled around in his bed while he lied to his wife for months at a time.

I guess Cindy McCain must have some pretty odd definitions of "honor" and "honesty". "

Leonard, I am a conservative dude and you are dead ass right on that one. I had a tough time watching her speak tonight. The camera kept cutting to Sarah Palin and it looked like she was having a tough time with Cindy McCains speech. Why the put her on tonight and for so long has me scratching my head. "

voter wrote on Sep 4, 2008 9:43 PM:

" You seem to be challenged mathematically, falcon. Your numbers show that the vast majority of viewers were actually tuned to a network other than Fox. "

falcon wrote on Sep 4, 2008 9:39 PM:

" Looks like Fox News is what most people prefer. It makes sense. Fair and Balanced. MSNBC the big looser, biased and uninformed. "

falcon wrote on Sep 4, 2008 9:35 PM:

" Info that you liberals need to know...

TV VIEWERS FOR PALIN, 10 PM ET

FOXNEWS 9,038,000
NBC 7,720,000
CNN 6,114,000
ABC 5,050,000
CBS 4,630,000
MSNBC 3,277,000

An audience of 37.2 million people watched Palin on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox News Channel and MSNBC

SARAHCUDA SARAHCUDA... "

falcon wrote on Sep 4, 2008 9:30 PM:

" Leonard wrote: " When Abraham Lincoln, often considered one of the greatest presidents this country has ever known, took office, his only experience was 4 terms in the Illinois House of Representatives and a single term as a Congressman from Illinois.

Leonard, Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. I knew Abraham Lincoln and Obama is no Abraham Lincoln...... "

sam wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:36 PM:

" Scout, Savior Sarah said Hillary is a whining Bi&ch and if she can't handle the heat playing with the big boys, then she needs to leave.

Wait, S. Sarah is not whining is she? She needs more scars.

And of course we need to all vote for S. Sarah. We women all have vaginas. I am so proud to be a Republican. "

sam wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:32 PM:

" Mike, you are not a true follower then, or you are not paying attention. In his speech tonight McCain said several times that the "scars prove that it works." He even said that Obama has no scars.

It takes scars, Dude. "

scout wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:30 PM:

" Sam: as a new Republican I feel like I can help you clear up a few points. This is what I learned from this convention: life is precious, but war is ok as long as its for oil; McCain was tortured, torture is bad, but its ok McCain continues to vote in favor of torture; women should vote for Palin, because women have vaginas and need to finish Hilary Clintons quest, but Clinton herself is an angry, liberal, git; McCain will decrease government spending but he remains in favor of spend 720 million of taxpayer dollars per day for Iraq indefinitely. Fight! Fight! Fight! GOP! "

mike wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:22 PM:

" No scars prove you fought. to reiterate; circumstances the person makes. "

scout wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:22 PM:

" Mike: I am with you. Let's save $4.9 million in McCain's retirement (though I think senators get retirement pensions as well) and let's keep spending $720 million a day in Iraq. I love this Grand Ole Party! Less government spending! Just think of it, after eight years with McCain we can completely obliviate the middle class (they complain too much anyway). I say upper and lower class poverty-strickened Americans only! "

voter wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:21 PM:

" Brian wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:02 AM:
" One could conclude that through the long evolutionary process on Earth, Whites have been put on top of the food chain."

How is it possible that you consider yourself on the top of the food chain? LOL! You can't even afford health insurance!

What a sad, deluded existence you lead. "

sam wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:20 PM:

" Mike, are you kidding me? Go with Sarah. She is hot. What a great VP. "

sam wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:18 PM:

" Hallelulia Scout. We open our arms. Fight, fight , fight... drill, drill, drill, fear, fear, fear...

Oh I forgot. FEAR. I personally loved the film footage of 911. Perfect. We are an amazing party.

Wait, Bush saved us from more attacks. McCain is not Bush. McCain had nothing to do with the last 8 years. But the last 8 years are Obama's fault.

Hey, did Obama help Bush save us from more terrorist attacks? "

scout wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:11 PM:

" I am a new republican! I am so happy I heard Sarah Palin and John McCain's speeches. I didn't realize Obama and the evil liberals were to blame for our bad economy, unspeakable national debt, crippling oil prices, failing healthcare system, severe lack of funding for medical research science, and losing respect in the eyes of the world. For some reason I was under the false impression that we have had a republican administration the last eight years. I am sure glad that was cleared up! "

sam wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:11 PM:

" You go Mike. Vote McCain and Savior Sarah. I love it. Fight, fight, fight, fight. The scars prove that it works. I sure hope you were listening to him.

The scars prove that fighting works. "

mike wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:08 PM:

" I'm voting my conscience, which VP will I watch walk away. "

sam wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:08 PM:

" Scout, yes... I hear ya. Bomb, bomb bomb... bomb bomb Iran. We are raising McCain.

Let us fight. "

sam wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:06 PM:

" McCain says stand up and fight. Let's fight. I want to fight. Who can I fight. Let us all fight.

Our new Republican motto... let us drill and fight.

Drill here and there, but by all means let us all fight.

OMG, I am so excited. LET US ALL FIGHT. He has "scars to prove that it works". I am SO PROUD to be a Republican. "

scout wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:03 PM:

" Drill! Drill! Drill! Bomb! Bomb! Bomb! Fear! Fear! Fear! Lie! Lie! Lie! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! "

mike wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:03 PM:

" That Sam I am that Sam I am, I do not know about that Sam I am. "

voter wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:02 PM:

" What a brilliant point, Mike. Let's pick a president based on the cost breakdown of his retirement benefit. How much can we save? That was a joke, right? "

mike wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:56 PM:

" leonard, circumstances the person makes. Would old Abe of been a great president without the civil war? and back to that "3 a.m." phone call theme, executive experience I submit is what kept another twwin towers tragedy from happening after 9/11. Anyway here's some non partisan thoughts to ponder;
A president's pension currently is $191,300 per year, until he is 80 years
old.
Assuming the next president lives to age 80. Sen. McCain
would receive 0 pension as he would reach 80 at the end of two terms as
president- Sen. Obama would be retired for 26 years after two terms
and would receive $4,973,800 in pension. "

sam wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:52 PM:

" I am so excited. John, St Cindy, and our Savior Sarah are here to fix everything. Our nation is in turmoil because of Obama. He is evil. The last 8 years were all his fault.

I could not be prouder to be a Republican. God Bless America. "

sam wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:51 PM:

" What a brilliant move to put Savior Sarah on our ticket. She is the governor of the richest oil state in our country. She loves the oil guys who employ her husband. She appreciates the perks.

We are the new Republican party. We are now the new Oil Rich party. "

sam wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:45 PM:

" Our savior Sarah is a barracuda and loves to cut excess spending. Last year, in her state, she cut programs that helped kids with special needs by 62%. But that is ok. She said she is now the advocate for kids with special needs.

And the bridge that goes nowhere? She said she did finally stand up against it, but she did take the money. "

sam wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:45 PM:

" Leonard, are you not paying attention? We now have our Messiah Sarah, who can deliver a speech all about Hope and Change. I am watching McCain now and he has mentioned "change" 11 times already.

After watching Cindy speak, we now have St Cindy.

This is a new party. We are a "new" Republican party. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:26 PM:

" So much for the idea that executive experience is the be all and end all of Presidential politics. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:25 PM:

" When Abraham Lincoln, often considered one of the greatest presidents this country has ever known, took office, his only experience was 4 terms in the Illinois House of Representatives and a single term as a Congressman from Illinois.

George W. Bush, on the other hand, was in his second term as Governor of Texas when he was made President.

While I know it is not fair to compare Bush who had served an entire term as Governor with Palin who has only served 16 months, I think most Americans, given the choice, would pick Abraham Lincoln over George W. Bush. "

OTH wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:14 PM:

" Brian

You really need to have your robe and hood cleaned. Anyone who makes the statements about race that you do is just plain ignorant and stupid.

Now I don't know whose going to win but living in Phoenix, the crotch of the universe, you may have to eat some of your words. Oh, I forgot you only put those on line. You can be really brave that way. You could put on your Seal uniform and scare the brothers to death. See Brian there just may be some payback with a black president. LOL "

Leonard wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:14 PM:

" I just heard Cindy McCain speaking about John McCain's "honor and honesty" and telling the adoring crowd how McCain "always kept his promises".

This from the woman who helped McCain break every last one of his wedding vows, the woman who rolled around in his bed while he lied to his wife for months at a time.

I guess Cindy McCain must have some pretty odd definitions of "honor" and "honesty". "

Gator wrote on Sep 4, 2008 6:20 PM:

" Well I figured a trip to the Owyhee river in Oregon was far better than
listening to the libs cry foulPalin gave Obambi every little thing
they have been saying About her, only she did it with a smile on her face.
October the second will be fantastic, that is when she will hand Biden
His a**As Dennis Miller said to day she is the Democratic partys
worst nightmareall the trash the Daily-Kos and the Huffington post
have put out has been disproved . So tomorrow its the South Fork of
the Boise, Im done with this bull till something good comes along!! "

sam wrote on Sep 4, 2008 6:06 PM:

" Cogito, is that why she is in seclusion being "fed" her new beliefs?

We republicans now have our own Messiah. She delivers a great speech that delivers HOPE for our party and for our nation. I am so excited about her. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 4, 2008 5:43 PM:

" WTF, you say the presidency is not on the job training, and neither is the VP slot. Palin is the only candidate for either office who has ever made an executive governmental decision. Being a member of congress is not where the buck stops anywhere. "

wtf wrote on Sep 4, 2008 4:15 PM:

" However, the quote could be about Ron Paul since it is in the Book of Revelation of St. John the Divine; otherwise known as the Apocalypse.

According to the Webster New World Dictionary, apocalypse means: a disclosure regarded as prophetic.

With prophecy being the root word of prophetic, prophecy means, according to the same source: predictions of the future under the influence of divine guidance; to predict a future event in any way.

Again, this prophecy in the Book of Revelation could be about Ron Paul since this prophecy was uttered quite a while back.

Speaking of prophecies and prognostications, Leonard I sure hope your projection of Palin being out by mid-September is more on target than mine was of McSame being out by June.

Unfortunately, he's still in...unless it's a clone. LOL! "

wtf wrote on Sep 4, 2008 3:40 PM:

" Rhodie said: "Saying Ron Paul is the choosen president cause he is from Philly is like saying the Pope leads the church from Rome, Georgia. Or that Moscow Idaho is in Russia."

Or maybe like the new VP wanna be Palin saying the Iraq war is 'a task that is from God'

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080903/D92VHQP05.html

The title of this letter says it all:

The Presidency is not on-the-job training....and neither is the VP slot. "

Rhodie wrote on Sep 4, 2008 11:42 AM:

" Too bad it's the wrong Philadelphia:

"Philadelphia was a city 30 miles southeast of Sardis in Asia Minor. It was founded by Attalus II Philadelphus of Pergamos, to be an "open door" for Greek culture. It was destroyed by an earthquake in AD 17 and rebuilt by Emperor Tiberius. Philadelphia specialized in textile and leather production."

http://www.aboutbibleprophecy.com/s30.htm

Saying Ron Paul is the choosen president cause he is from Philly is like saying the Pope leads the church from Rome, Georgia. Or that Moscow Idaho is in Russia. "

wtf wrote on Sep 4, 2008 11:12 AM:

" Jon Stewart on Comedy Central summed up the whole Sarah Palin situation nicely.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/04/jon-stewart-mocks-how-oreillys-opinion-on-teen-pregnancy-gestated-over-a-period-of-months/ "

wtf wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:59 AM:

" If you dont believe, grab your bible and look it up; or check out this link starting at 3:7.

http://www.awitness.org/biblehtm/re/re3.htm

Oh, and Cogito? Leonard is right. There was whining, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth in Minneapolis - especially on September 2 - when Ron Pauls Rally for the Republic had more in attendance than the RNC.

http://news.cnet.com/2300-1028_3-6246258-1.html?tag=mncol

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/scenes_from_ron_pauls_rally_fo.html

I plan on following the suggestion former Governor Jesse Ventura gave at the Rally for the Republic which was to vote your heart and your conscience since voting is not horse racing; youre not out to try to pick the winner. My conscience tells me the best man for the job is Ron Paul and thats the name Ill be writing on my ballot come November. "

wtf wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:59 AM:

" Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the
hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell
upon the earth.

Behold, I come quickly; hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy
crown.

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall
go no more out; and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of
the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God and I will write upon him my new name.

He that have an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. "

wtf wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:58 AM:

" Add to this list that even the Bible endorses Ron Paul (which explains why the neocons - both Dem and Rep - are so afraid of him)..

Revelelation 3:7-13

And to the angel in the church in Philadelphia write: These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth.

I know thy works. Behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can
shut it; for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not
denied my name.

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are jews, and
are not, but do lie.

Behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
(cont) "

wtf wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:56 AM:

" Not to mention the fact that both the Liberty Bell and our United States Constitution both hail from Philadelphia - another colonial town here in the U.S. - and it was Philadelphia that served as the very FIRST capitol of the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_was_the_US_Constitution_written

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Bell "

wtf wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:55 AM:

" Reading all the posts, it seems that there really is no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans; they both have the same goal. Call them Repemocrats if you will. Couple this with the questions surrounding Obamas birth and whether or not Hawaii was a state in the U.S. at that time, along with the questions surrounding McCains birth in Panama, and you have a real conundrum.

However, there is no question regarding Ron Paul who was born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania was one of the original 13 colonies and Pittsburgh has been around since the American Revolution.

http://www.timepage.org/spl/13colony.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh,_Pennsylvania#History "

wtf wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:55 AM:

" The only problem with this is that there are many Jews who dont support either Zionism or Israel; they call the Zionists fake jews and do not recognize them because Zionism is a POLITICAL agenda that wraps itself in religion.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/

http://www.nkusa.org/ "

wtf wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:55 AM:

" Plus she belongs to a church that is pro-Israel.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/04/palins-evangelical-faith-drives-pro-israel-view/

Also, when she was in seclusion for those two days, the only people she DID meet with were members of AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee).

http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/110192.html "

wtf wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:54 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:44 AM:

"I've been reading some of the analysis of McCains selection of Palin and what it basically comes down to is the fact that the Republican Party picked a woman for no other reason than the fact they couldn't stomach a Jew (Lieberman).

I dont know about that, Leonard. Heres a pic of Palin in her Alaskan office. Note the Israeli flag by the window and that shes wearing an Israeli flag pin.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6920357 "

Cogito wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:58 AM:

" What sounds like whining to some, sounds like resolve to another. I never heard anyone last night promise to give us something we didn't work for. I heard speakers sound like leaders last night. During the DNC, I heard people sound like victims advocates. It must suck to be a Democrat. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:18 AM:

" What's that Brian?

I can't hear you over all the whining that is coming out of Minneapolis. "

Brian wrote on Sep 4, 2008 7:02 AM:

" One could conclude that through the long evolutionary process on Earth, Whites have been put on top of the food chain. It could be perceived as an unfortunate chain of events that has lead it to this.

Perhaps this is another reason so many blacks hold themselves near and dear to Black Liberation Theology.

In actuality. whites being on top of the food chain is just the way the ball bounces. I doubt the evolutionary process had a racist slant. "

Brian wrote on Sep 4, 2008 6:53 AM:

" Now the LNS has a list of inappropriate words that we cannot use in our comments. Magna c#m laude may not be inappropriate in this context. However, that three letter word is inappropriate.

There's always ways around things. :) "

Brian wrote on Sep 4, 2008 6:46 AM:

" He also writes: Reducing black identity to "victimhood" distorts the reality of true progress. For example, was Obama a victim of widespread racial oppression at the hand of "rich white people" before graduating from Columbia University, Harvard Law School Magna C#m Laude, or after he acquired his estimated net worth of $1.3 million? How did "rich white people" keep Obama from succeeding? If Obama is the model of an oppressed black man, I want to be oppressed next! With my graduate school debt my net worth is literally negative $52,659. "

Brian wrote on Sep 4, 2008 6:42 AM:

" Anthony B. Bradley writes: Black Liberation Theology actually encourages a victim mentality among blacks. John McWhorters' book Losing the Race, will be helpful here. Victimology, says McWhorter, is the adoption of victimhood as the core of one's identity -- for example, like one who suffers through living in "a country and who lived in a culture controlled by rich white people." It is a subconscious, culturally inherited affirmation that life for blacks in America has been in the past and will be in the future a life of being victimized by the oppression of whites. In today's terms, it is the conviction that, 40 years after the Civil Rights Act, conditions for blacks have not substantially changed. As Rev. Wright intimates, for example, scores of black men regularly get passed over by cab drivers. "

Gator wrote on Sep 4, 2008 6:40 AM:

" Obambi vs Godzilla "

Brian wrote on Sep 4, 2008 6:28 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:51 AM:

" AGAIN...

All of this is ignoring the fact that Palin doesn't even want to be an American.

Gator, do you think that Alaska should be given to the Canadians? "

Chuckle, And Black Liberation Theology
is an American value? This slant for Obama is getting creepier and creepier by the day. "

Brian wrote on Sep 4, 2008 6:23 AM:

" Leonard, Frankly I don't think you're delusional. However, I may be a little less critical of Obama in 4 to 8 years. "

Brian wrote on Sep 4, 2008 6:18 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:52 AM:

" Gator wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:42 AM:

" Let me put it this way, Im sure I could sit at the same table as lenny
and tip back an Alaskan Amber in the Saltydogg in Homer Alaska
and have a damn fine time and not try and kill one another!!

Likewise. "

-Likewise:) "

Brian wrote on Sep 4, 2008 6:15 AM:

" Cogito, The MSM change their position
almost as often as Jon Kerry. Palin does believe a woman should have the same opportunities as men. Within reason, of course. She has taken on special interest groups and won. So much of what she says rates high with the MSM. The difference between her and Obama is, she means it. He justs says things to score brownie points. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 3, 2008 10:32 PM:

" Anyone else catch the speeches tonight? Dis you happen to hear all the gushing over Palin's speech by all the lefties in the msm? It was funny to hear all that praise after she spent so much time verbally pummeling the former community activist B.O. "

Brian wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:54 PM:

" Leonard=Liberal=Delusions of Grandeur "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:15 PM:

" Gator wrote on Sep 3, 2008 4:42 PM:
" Leonard, here is another debunking of the slashing of funds for Covenant house Of Alaska.


What has been said from the get go was that Palin slashed the funds that had been allocated by the Republican Alaska Legislature.

We seem to be on agreement on this point, you are just trying to put a positive spin on it so you can dodge the irony. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:12 PM:

" Gator wrote on Sep 3, 2008 4:26 PM:
" Leonard, Daniel K Oinouye is doing the very same thing Palins husband is accused of


He's trying to make Alaska part of Canada?

That seems unlikely. "

Gator wrote on Sep 3, 2008 5:01 PM:

" Leonard, I saw 2 clips of Obama and Biden one right after the big speech
and another in an interview. Now one could have been excitement, but the
second was a laugher, Biden moved in on OB and took over and boy was he loud,but even better was the expression change on OBs face, Now far be it
for me to rush to judgment but I would say ol Joe could be a Lush, if not
lets just call him Gomer "

Gator wrote on Sep 3, 2008 4:42 PM:

" Leonard, here is another debunking of the slashing of funds for Covenant house Of Alaska.

Covenant Houses IRS Form 990 (link) shows the funds that Paul Kane describes as slashed was over a threefold increase from the government funds they received from all sources in 2006 (FY2006 ending 12/31/06).
Contact info: ombudsman@washpost.com.


Link that works http://www.guidestar.org/pqShowGsReport.do?partner=justgive&npoId=332976 "

Gator wrote on Sep 3, 2008 4:26 PM:

" Leonard, Daniel K Oinouye is doing the very same thing Palins husband is accused of, only difference he is a democratI doubt you would know
what it means to the Hawaiians cause your just a Haole!!! "

SportsGuru wrote on Sep 3, 2008 3:35 PM:

" .
9% of Hillary Female Voters is about equal to 33% of the margin of victory during the last election.

ONE THIRD of the total margin.... "

SportsGuru wrote on Sep 3, 2008 3:34 PM:

" .
IN 2006 Bush beat Kerrey by a little more than 3 million votes.

In this year's primary's, Hillary Clinton garnered a little more than 18 Million Votes..approximately half were women (9 million votes).

Even if you believe the 9% poll figure from Garin-Hart-Yang...that would give McCain about 810,000 Hillary votes.

Factor that at 15% of Hillary's female voters, and you give McCain 1.35 million votes.....Almost half the margin by which Bush beat Kerrey.

So..don't let a little number like 9% make you think it won't matter...It will.

Hillary wants McCain to win, so she can run ain 2012. By 2016 she won't be viable. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 2:03 PM:

" Gator wrote on Sep 3, 2008 2:00 PM:

" The party Plains husband belonged to or still does was not trying to succeed from the Union unlike Vermont which wants to be its own
Country!


That sure is how the McCainuggets are spinning it. It is a shame (for them) that the facts say otherwise. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 2:02 PM:

" Rhodie wrote on Sep 3, 2008 1:16 PM:

How many fringe republicans did Obama hope to get with his VP selection?


Judging from the ever growing numbers of Obamicans, I don't think he needed a special VP to draw voters away from your party. "

Gator wrote on Sep 3, 2008 2:00 PM:

" The party Plains husband belonged to or still does was not trying to succeed from the Union unlike Vermont which wants to be its own
Country!! Palins want full control of States rights right with out
US Government interference.. Which is exactly the same thing US
Senator Daniel K Inouye has been pushing since he has been in office
and the Hawaiians are demanding the same and all sacred property
held by the government returned to them. Not one word from the press
on this matter. Side note, relatives of the Hawaiians the Maori of
New Zealand have accomplished what their brothers want with a huge
monetary settlement and a big chunk of their land back, I would
say its just a matter of time for Hawaii, what will the press say?? "

Rhodie wrote on Sep 3, 2008 1:16 PM:

" Every year wife and I hope for a 20% pay raise, we usually get 5% but we are happy for what we get.

9% is better than nothing.

How many fringe republicans did Obama hope to get with his VP selection? "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:48 PM:

" McCain aides have said that they were hoping to take somewhere between 30 and 40 percent of the women who had supported Clinton.

The hope of taking a sizable portion of the Clinton bloc was one of the two major reasons for the McCain Campaigns decision to pick Palin. "

Rhodie wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:42 PM:

" "Just 9% of women who supported Clinton in the primaries say they are more likely to vote for McCain because of his inclusion of Palin on the Republican ticket, according to a poll of 800 women conducted on Aug. 31 and Sept. 1."

So Demo women who supported Clinton won't vote for a Republican, WOW that's like doing a survey to find out if farts stink. The fact that 9% of the women who DID support Clinton and now feel more likely to vote for MCcain because of his VP is a major boost. Thats 9% that may have been voting Demo without this VP selection.

How many thousands of votes does that represent tot he Demo's across the nation? 1-2% they wouldn't care but 9% can be devistating to the election. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:15 PM:

" falcon wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:09 PM:

Hearing Sarah Barracuda is one thing, but seeing her is quite another. She looks hot! "


If you are into cougar, I suppose. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:14 PM:

" falcon wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:09 PM:

" Leonard, George Bush's cocaine use never bothered me, but I am pointing out that Obama's cocaine use never bothered the left wing media


And I am saying that it is hypocritical for the right to attack Obama's admitted youthful missteps when both the current President and the Vice Presidential nominee have similar back grounds.

At least Obama has admitted that what he did as a teen ager was wrong. George W. Bush has yet to make a similar admission. "

falcon wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:09 PM:

" Leonard, George Bush's cocaine use never bothered me, but I am pointing out that Obama's cocaine use never bothered the left wing media. Regarding polls...There have been lots of polls saying lots of things that have been just flat wrong.

SportsGuru...Kudos..Very correct and articulate, substantive contribution. I agree.

Leonard, you can watch it on your computer on Foxnews.com. Hearing Sarah Barracuda is one thing, but seeing her is quite another. She looks hot! "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:36 AM:

" Chuckle...

Its a pretty simple poll. There isn't much room for manipulation. I am sorry if it interferes with your rich fantasy life. "

SportsGuru wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:28 AM:

" .
TO LEONARD

The Garin-Hart-Yang Research Group hardly has a track-record of success with regards to polling. And they are known for having a left-wing slant.

Anyone can go find a biased polling organization and fish for the results they want, but in the end the truth has the final word.

The last two US Presidential elections had polling organizations showing the Dems with big leads going into the final weeks of the campaign - and the Dems lost.

Ronald Regan's 2nd term was never supposed to have happened according to the left-leaning pollsters - but he won by a landslide. "

SportsGuru wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:12 AM:

" (CONTINUED)

Seeking this kind of comprehensive settlement with Iran is our best way to make progress.

Seeking this kind of settlement with Iran has been pursued in the past, and has NEVER WORKED. These are not reasonable people. The "feel good" liberal approach doesn't work with people who have no respect for western values and culture (as espoused by liberals)!

THIS is why I would never vote for Obama. "

SportsGuru wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:10 AM:

" (CONTINUED)

Obama would offer the Iranian regime a choice. If Iran abandons its nuclear program and support for terrorism, we will offer incentives like membership in the World Trade Organization, economic investments, and a move toward normal diplomatic relations.

This solution would not achieve Iran's ultimate objective of controlling the middle east and eliminating Israel - therefore they will never agree to it.

If Iran continues its troubling behavior, we will step up our economic pressure and political isolation.

They are already under a vast amount of economic and political pressure from the US an Europe, to no avail. It isn't working now.. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:09 AM:

" Palin selection backfires

From today's Wall Street Journal:

If Sen. John McCain was hoping to win over disappointed Hillary Clinton supporters with his choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, he figured wrong, according to a Garin-Hart-Yang Research Group poll conducted for Emilys List.

Just 9% of women who supported Clinton in the primaries say they are more likely to vote for McCain because of his inclusion of Palin on the Republican ticket, according to a poll of 800 women conducted on Aug. 31 and Sept. 1.

A majority 55%said Palins inclusion on the ticket makes them less likely to vote for McCain, who will be nominated at the Republican convention tonight.

The poll has a margin of error of 3.5 percentage points.
"

SportsGuru wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:08 AM:

" .
Out of all the things that Barak Obama has said, one sticks out as one of the most NAIVE foreign policy statement's I've heard from any candidate... and it comes from his own website:

Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions.

Hmmm, I wonder why he is the only candidate to support this approach?

Now is the time to pressure Iran directly to change their troubling behavior.

As Jimmy Carter found out (the hard way), pressure without a "big stick" doesn't work with Iran (or the Middle East in general)..

(Continued) "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:00 AM:

" falcon wrote on Sep 3, 2008 10:56 AM:

" Leonard, I did not mention the c word, Obama did.


My point was that President Bush's history of cocaine related "youthful indiscretions" hasn't seemed to give you any pause. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 10:56 AM:

" falcon wrote on Sep 3, 2008 10:55 AM:

" Leonard, are you going to watch Sarah Barracuda tonight so that you can have first hand knowledge when you attack her?


I took my TV out back and shot it when my daughter was born.

I might listen to it on the radio though. "

falcon wrote on Sep 3, 2008 10:56 AM:

" Leonard, I did not mention the c word, Obama did. "

falcon wrote on Sep 3, 2008 10:55 AM:

" Leonard, are you going to watch Sarah Barracuda tonight so that you can have first hand knowledge when you attack her? "

falcon wrote on Sep 3, 2008 10:53 AM:

" Thanks Leonard, I just realized what a great service you do to these blogs. I wonder if you are a right wing conservative who is having fun by acting like a lib. I have often considered that. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 9:50 AM:

" falcon wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:45 AM:

" Leonard, Obama is a self admitted hard drug abuser (cocaine)


I thought that all of the Bush supporters had taken a collective pledge never to mention the "c" word. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:54 AM:

" To be fair, I have seen this claim regarding some sort of unusual chain of command repeated on a number of conservative blogs.

As far as I can tell, it all goes back to the Michael Savage post.

I am willing to consider the possibility that USA Today might have included it in an article and then retracted it once their fact checkers got a hold of it. That would explain its absence from their web postings. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:52 AM:

" Gator wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:42 AM:

" Let me put it this way, Im sure I could sit at the same table as lenny
and tip back an Alaskan Amber in the Saltydogg in Homer Alaska
and have a damn fine time and not try and kill one another!!


Likewise. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:50 AM:

" Gator wrote on Sep 3, 2008 7:18 AM:

" Leonard, First are you calling me a liar??? Thats not nice lenny. It was
There, USA-To Day, the header stated as reported by the Washington
Post, you cant find it T S


Certainly not. All I am doing is asking you to back up your assertion with some evidence. The assertion that Alaskan National Guard troops would follow a different chain of command than all other active duty National Guard troops is a exceptional claim and, as such, requires exceptional evidence.

In the absence of such evidence I think we have to consider the possibility that your source, whatever it was, was simply wrong. "

Gator wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:42 AM:

" Let me put it this way, Im sure I could sit at the same table as lenny
and tip back an Alaskan Amber in the Saltydogg in Homer Alaska
and have a damn fine time and not try and kill one another!!! "

Cogito wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:35 AM:

" Brian, I would never attempt to change Leonard. I enjoy our back and forth exchanges. If it weren't for people like Leonard, I would get bored of doing this in a heartbeat. He defends a party who had a Mayor get busted for smoking crack in a hotel room with a solicited prostitute. That mayor went to prison for those offenses. But when he got out, was REELECTED by the Democrats in his fair city. "

Robb wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:18 AM:

" Not a foot to stand on leo.. "

Brian wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:11 AM:

" I got a kick out of him accusing me of posting something from a white supremist website and all along it was from Rev. Wrights churches website about black liberation theology. He ran with it so long trying to make me look bad. He never really had any proof I had visited a white supremist website.
that didn't keep him from trying to discredit me.

His tactics are so indicative of a liberal. You just have to let him dig his hole and enjoy the ride. "

Brian wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:04 AM:

" Leonard gets a rise out of trying to discredit people on these bloggs. And then if you call him on it he says you're doing a good job discrediting yourself. This is one of his many tactics. And then the self-proclaiming
of victory in a debate, well, he has to do something to make his head swell. "

Brian wrote on Sep 3, 2008 7:58 AM:

" Gator, Cogito, Falcon: Trying to change Leonard is like trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. It just won't happen. So let's consider his posts of the humorous varitey and respond to them as that. In one of his emails to me a few months ago he admitted he doesn't even realize what he is writing at times. "

Gator wrote on Sep 3, 2008 7:18 AM:

" Leonard, First are you calling me a liar??? Thats not nice lenny. It was
There, USA-To Day, the header stated as reported by the Washington
Post, you cant find it T S.. The last thing Im going to say on this
Subject is If Obama had come under the scrutiny Pailn has you would
see Hillary as the nomine not Obama. The only time the press hit him
hard was when Charlie Gibson and Stephonopoulos did it and were
Crucified for it. And Obama came off looking whipped. He is no
John F Kennedy, not now, not ever .As for your bet on Palin, lenny
I have one for you, IF Obama makes it I say he will implode before
his term is over and if he makes it you can bet it will be a one shot
deal just like Jimmy C.. Dont forget I voted for that idiot and there
was the same warm and fuzzy feeling for Jimmy like it is for Obama
and you have seen the results "

falcon wrote on Sep 3, 2008 7:07 AM:

" Cogito, I think that we are going to see another stake in the heart of the media. Their integrity, and reliability are already discounted by most. This obvious assault on Palin for political purposes, reveals to us all just where these news outlets stand politically. What really still bewilders me is how someone who professes and seems to be informed like Leonard can still bank on these people. Leonard, I think there is good in you. You just have to take off the black helmet. "

falcon wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:45 AM:

" Leonard, Obama is a self admitted hard drug abuser (cocaine). Obama is a self admitted friend of an unrepentant terrorist that bombed the pentagon. I think that the American people will observe Palin, see her as the people of Alaska have seen her, and further discount liberal media outlets that try to smear her and her family's reputation. It will backfire. This is why there is a decline of the liberal newspapers and the increased viewership of Fox News. The credibility of these liberal media outlets is at stake. Dan Rather already destroyed CBS's credibility with his phony memogate story that all of the kook left bought into. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:55 AM:

" falcon wrote on Sep 2, 2008 10:14 PM:

These pathetic scumbags are trying to dig up any spec of dirt they can to discredit her while they are silent on Obama's drugged up past.


ROTFLMAO!!!

You are aware, are you not, that Sara Palin is, by her own admission, a former marijuana user?

Shoot a Republican in the foot and he will walk with a limp. Hand a Republican a loaded gun and he will blast both of his legs off beneath the knees. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 2, 2008 10:48 PM:

" Falcon, isn't it incredible. Palin and her family have already undergone more scrutiny than Barack Hussein Obama has undergone this entire campaign. Every woman in this country should be furious regarding her treatment by the msm. But the sheeple continue to follow their Marxist shepherd, bleating "OBA-A-A-A-MA" "OBA-A-A-A-MA". "

falcon wrote on Sep 2, 2008 10:14 PM:

" Cogito, You think you are proud now, wait until Sarah Palin speaks and captures the hearts of real people. Real people unlike Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Real people unlike the arrogant liberal talking heads on MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS. These pathetic scumbags are trying to dig up any spec of dirt they can to discredit her while they are silent on Obama's drugged up past. Leonard often calls Rush the drug addict, but he grants exemption for Obama. This hypocrisy discredits arguments.

This is why typical liberal sources for news are garbage. The main stream media is in the tank for Obama and the blind liberal sheep follow them. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:51 PM:

" DD66, EVERY man and woman who puts their life on the line to defend this country is as important as any other. They are THE most important people in the history of our country. We owe you everything soldier. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:38 PM:

" s McCain a hero? Nope, he is just a POW with clout. He was tortured, yes, but he came home walking. He came home walking because he was an Admiral's son and an aviator. My buddies captured came home in body bags, if they came home. They are just as more important as John McCain. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:38 PM:

" McCain made the choice to enlist and go to Vietnam. I did not have the choice. Neither did my friends. We were forced. We were drafted. McCain, an admiral's son, was taken prisoner and survived. My buddies' who were captured were nobodies. Just regular Joes. Did they get to survive once captured? No. A bullet to their head if they were lucky. "

Cogito wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:27 PM:

" Ahhhh Leonard, I'm watching the convention on the Clinton News Network, and I can tell you it does not suck to be a Republican. I just watched a great speech, endorsing McCain, by the Democrat Vice-Presidential candidate 8 years ago, Al Gore running mate Joe Lieberman. Man that must just chap the hide of you Democrats. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:01 PM:

" Gator wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:55 PM:
" This is going no where, its like a discussion with a box of rocks
Im done, Life goes onOh about that bet???


In other words, there was no article, it was all the product of the GOP echo chamber and you just realized that you have been, yet again, completely conned by the men you call your leaders.

It must suck to be a Republican. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:59 PM:

" The only thing I have found that comes anywhere close to your claims is a bit on the Wee Little Wiener's (AKA Michael Savage) blog where he claims the following.

Given Alaskas proximity to Russia, she may have security clearances we dont even know about

Speculation by a notorious liar who can't even be trusted to give his own name does not a security clearance make. "

Gator wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:55 PM:

" This is going no where, its like a discussion with a box of rocks
Im done, Life goes onOh about that bet??? "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:52 PM:

" Gator wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:21 PM:
" Leonard, As a mater of fact I do it was reported in USA- To-day a few days back. I would think even a Marxist like you could search it out.


Well, that's funny because I have googled "Palin", "Security Clearance" and USA Today in pretty much every combination imaginable and I can't find hide or tail of the article you are citing.

Perhaps you could provide me with a link? I would be interested to read it and besides, it would be a great gotcha for my military friend who says that active duty national guard units don't report to governors. "

Gator wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:27 PM:

" I wonder why strong women scare the hell out of leftys, could it be a
Manhood thing, whats that new handle, Sea going bell hop 66??? "

Gator wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:21 PM:

" Leonard, As a mater of fact I do it was reported in USA- To-day a few days back. I would think even a Marxist like you could search it out. How
Someone could let a nitwit like Adriana Huffington wash their brain is
beyond me, your typical of a far left of center soldier, you have no
argument so you ridicule. And like all the left you give Obama a full
Pass. I almost forgot, Obama 3 year US Senator worked 143 days
Voted 135 times, authored no bills, no resolutions was on the road
for some 2 years running for office, fantastic track record "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:59 PM:

" As mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, Palin hired a lobbyist to help the tiny town secure at least 14 earmarks, worth $27 million between 2000-2003. McCain has touted Palin as a force in his long battle against earmarks. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:58 PM:

" Allen pleaded guilty to bribery and corruption charges. He admitted the program violated federal tax laws and said it was used to keep his political allies flush with cash. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:58 PM:

" Palin received contributions from executives at VECO Corp., a powerful Alaska oil field services company. Company founder Bill Allen has admitted the company steers its donations through a "special bonus program" in which executives received money and the company instructed them to donate it to favored politicians. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:55 PM:

" Palin accepted at least $4,500 in campaign contributions in the same fundraising scheme at the center of a public corruption scandal that led to the indictment of Sen. Ted Stevens.

The contributions, made during Palin's failed 2002 bid to become Alaska's lieutenant governor, were not illegal for her to accept. But they show how Palin, a self-proclaimed reformer who has bucked Stevens and his allies, is nonetheless a product of a political system in Alaska now under the cloud of an ongoing FBI investigation. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:47 PM:

" Now, this really is from the Washington Post.

Palin Slashed Funding for Teen Moms

ST. PAUL -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.

Every child has a right to life, just not life in doors. A particularly interesting point in Alaska. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:43 PM:

" Now, given Palin's history of involvement in the anti American Alaskan secessionist movement, I suppose that it is possible that Palin was planning to declare independence and then seize control of federal military assets in Alaska ala Fort Sumter, but plans for treason are hardly qualifications for high office. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:39 PM:

" Gator wrote on Sep 2, 2008 5:17 PM:
" Leonard, all Im telling you is what was reported by the WPO, a newspaper
which I would say is not conservative friendly ,take it or leave it.


Do you have a link to this alleged article?

I have seen a lot references to this alleged article over the last few days but the real goods do not appear to be available to be found.

BTW, I asked a friend of mine in the military about this today and he confirmed what I already knew. Active duty National Guard Units report to and take orders from their military superiors through the chain of command. They are not under the command of their home state governors, even if they happen to be conducting operations in their home state. "

Madman wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:34 PM:

" I forgot... foreign policy. Hitchcock has left the country (on our dollar) vs Palin who has not.

Again, go Ms Hitchcock. "

Madman wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:32 PM:

" I say put Susan Hitchcock in as the Republican VP candidate. She has more "executive" experience than Palin.

Mayor of Lodi - 60,000 vs 6,000
City Council - 60,000 vs 6,000
A Maverick - she flashed her mayor of Lodi business card in New York to get special treatment vs Palin who fired the person who would not fire her ex-brother in law.
Go Ms Hitchcock. Republican VP 2008 "

Gator wrote on Sep 2, 2008 5:17 PM:

" Leonard, all Im telling you is what was reported by the WPO, a newspaper
which I would say is not conservative friendly ,take it or leave it. The way
the Media is salivating on this is a bloody crack up, I cant help but laugh.
And on the other shoe we have a complete Pass. Associating with known
domestic terrorist, playing the race card, blowing millions of dollars of
a charity he and William Ayers were chairing, receiving kick backs and
Special favors from Tony Rezko, twenty years in a racist church when
there are hundreds of honest Churchs in ChicagoWhat it all comes
down to it he is just an other South side playerAs for Palins membership
In a separatist organization, so?? I was a member of the Sierra club and Friends of the Earth before I wised up, so Im not any moreIf you will
Take note, Vermont is still wanting to form their own country and if you
drive north in California on I-5 you will find the same going on from
Yreka north and very vocal about it. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 2:24 PM:

" The idea that the Alaska National Guards role in missile defense gives Palin some sort of special security clearance seems fundamentally flawed since active duty Guard troops are part of the military chain of command and do not answer directly to the Governor.

The Republicans have become so desperate that they are now grasping at imaginary straws as Palin drifts ever closer to dismissal. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 2:16 PM:

" I am wondering whether you are now claiming that Palin was NOT part of a party that advocates Alaskan secession? "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 2:15 PM:

" Gator, your denial would be amusing if it were not so pathetic.

McCain's ship is sinking fast, in large part due to the bullet that travelled through his foot and pierced its hull. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 2:13 PM:

" Gator: Honest question.

What, specifically, is Palin's security clearance and how do you know it? "

Gator wrote on Sep 2, 2008 2:04 PM:

" Leonard, Question? You say ol sparky didnt do a very good investigation
On Plains background, HMMmmm!! You dont suppose he thought the
FBI,NSA and SS did a good enough job!! For the security clearance she
Has, they say its probably equivalent to Bidens. I would think she is as
Squeaky clean as it gets. Naw she doesnt like America, so she lets her
son deploy to Iraq. She has been over to the sand box to visit with her Guard troops .And hell yes she put the screws to some crooked politicos, about time someone did. Kind of remind s me of Bobby Jindal in Louisiana he
is cleaning up his state also.. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:42 PM:

" After Palin was elected mayor of Wasilla she promptly fired the chief of police and Library director for supporting the other candidate. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:39 PM:

" While Palin was Mayor of Wasilla (you know, the place whose City Hall looks like a bait shop in Louisiana thank you, James Carville), she hired Steven Silver to try to win federal earmarks for the city. Silvers claim to fame? He is one of Jack Abramoffs cronies. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:38 PM:

" Palin was one of the directors of Stevens 527 fund.

When Stevens got in trouble, she stayed supportive of him, until it became a political liability. Now she pretends that she is something she isnt. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:36 PM:

" It is true that Sarah Palin and her husband were active members of the Alaska Independence Party, a group seeking to have Alaska secede from the Union. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:30 PM:

" McCain said he wanted Lieberman. He was told he could not pick him. A maverick? more like a yes-man. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:27 PM:

" While mayor she took millions of dollars in earmarks ... something McCain says he is strongly against. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:25 PM:

" The entire population of Alaska is less than the population of San Francisco. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:24 PM:

" Palin's husband got his job with BP, British Petroleum, after she became governor. "

DevilDog66 wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:23 PM:

" Pallin sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as a threatened species-she was worried it would interfere with more oil
drilling in Alaska. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:51 AM:

" AGAIN...

All of this is ignoring the fact that Palin doesn't even want to be an American.

Gator, do you think that Alaska should be given to the Canadians? "

Gator wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:12 AM:

" Leonard, I see where you got your Idea for your drop out pool, Talk Left,
the politics of crimeLeftie sites like that will make you go blind!! Lenny
even if McCain and Palin dont get elected I can see Palin/Jindal 2012.
Obama will be like Jimmy Carter gone in 4 if he makes full term at all
As for Biden running, thinking like that will grow hair on your palm!!!
To dumb for prime time Joe!! As for Palin the thing that scares lefties
the most is, Babies, guns and Jesus "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 10:42 AM:

" All of this is ignoring the fact that Palin doesn't even want to be an American.

Gator, do you think that Alaska should be given to the Canadians? "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 10:38 AM:

" Gator, you just don't get it.

The scandal here isn't that Palin's unmarried teenage daughter is pregnant, the scandal is that John McCain is so reckless that he would choose a VP without even the most minimal background check.

My brother's ex girlfriend joined the diplomatic corps a few years back. He knows this because a pair of FBI agents showed up on his doorstep wanting to know everything about her.

If that is the kind of background check you need issue visas in Budapest, don't you think they would have wanted to at least look into the woman who, given John McCain's age and health, is likely to become President of the United States if he is elected? "

Gator wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:58 AM:

" Leonard, talks cheep put your money where your mouth is! Desperate, the
Only desperation I see is coming from the leftiesOne only has to look
at Lodi middle, Tokay and Lodi High to find the same situation. So here we
are a VP candidate with a pregnant unmarried daughter STOP THE PRESS!! On the other hand we have a Presidential candidate who announced his run for the presidency in the home of a known domestic
terrorist, received a 30,000 contribution from Hamas supporter and member
says he gave it back, which didnt happen ,Gets a sweet heart deal from
Tony Rezko on money for his million dollar home, you know Ill take an
unwed mother over that. STOP THE PRESS!! No give him a pass sweep it
Under the rug!!! Do you understand the difference ,Think Mayor Richard
Daily and the Chicago political machine, they pull the string to make Obama dance and they will try and crush anything that gets in their way
FACTS ARE FACTS Lenny "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:27 AM:

" Chuckle...

Gator, your boys screwed up royally and now you have to live with it. Your desperation is most amusing.

I'm thinking about starting a pool on how long it will be until Palin gets dropped from the ticket. Those mid September spots would be in the prime ones, I imagine. "

Gator wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:17 AM:

" Leonard, I might of known you would surface in this case, youre a true
Kos-Kid. You would no doubt love it if she had a late term abortion, right?
I have an 18 year old grandson who came into this world the same way.
do I love him any less ,hell no hes my buddy. Leonard wipe the drool off your face its not very becomingOh I forgot her husband had a DUI in 1986,he was a kid, big deal. Had one since? no!! America is a funny place we tend to hold our Leaders to standards we couldnt meet in a million years!! We live in a very big Glass house and there we stand with rocks
In our hands, It just like Ross Perot said there is a giant sucking sound,
this time its coming from the Left wing Euro-Commie section of the
Democratic party "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:31 AM:

" A QUESTION OF JUDGEMENT

Aides to Mr. McCain said they had a team on the ground in Alaska now to look more thoroughly into Ms. Palins background. A Republican with ties to the campaign said the team assigned to vet Ms. Palin in Alaska had not arrived there until Thursday, a day before Mr. McCain stunned the political world with his vice-presidential choice. The campaign was still calling Republican operatives as late as Sunday night asking them to go to Alaska to deal with the unexpected candidacy of Ms. Palin. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:30 AM:

" Today's scandal du jour

Palin loves America so much that she was once a member of a radical political party that was dedicated to either seceding from the Union or joining Canada.

When people told Palin that she should either love America or leave it, I guess she took them literally. "

Gator wrote on Sep 1, 2008 7:41 PM:

" Well Ivan, right here FYII will give Dubya some credit in the fact we havent been hit since 9/11...As for Iraq let me quote General Hal Moore,
its a war that is not worth 1 American life It was run by a Secretary of
Defense that made Robert McNamara look like a bloody genius and it
was a total Cluster **** till General Petraeus took over. I supported the
war and still do as long a 1 American is still on the ground thereAs
for Bush on a scale of 1-10 maybe a 5 as for Jimmy Carter -44.Bush
is no Reagan nor Teddy Roosevelt but those are the best Republicans
In Modern times, as for the rest, so-so!! Ivan you cant have it all your
way, you give, you take, its called compromiseThat is how people
get a long and how business and trade unions manage to get along
for the benefit of bothThat was what conservative has done anything
for this country?? And your answer is??? Levi fellow, pray tell what or
who is thatTip a glass of Mad Dog 20/20 you will feel better in the
morning!!! "

Madman wrote on Sep 1, 2008 7:22 PM:

" This is worth a view. Alaskans have been taking about this months before McCain made his VP pick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEQdYdCfl60&feature=related "

Robb wrote on Sep 1, 2008 6:46 PM:

" Teen age fornification??
It appears Ivan, you are allot older than I thought... "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Sep 1, 2008 6:00 PM:

" This Levi fellow was fortifying something and it sure wasn't this nation's borders.

Teen age fornification has long been the scourge of the liberal movement. Is it any coincidence that it has shown up here? "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Sep 1, 2008 5:59 PM:

" Mr Gator, it is a fact that John McCain is planning the largest tax increase in recent history.

A socialist is a socialist is a socialist!

And you ask what President has done anything for this country? Where have you been for the last 8 years? "

Gator wrote on Sep 1, 2008 5:20 PM:

" Ivan, its fornication not fortification!!! Fortification=structure for defense: a structure built in order to strengthen a place's defenses, e.g. a wall, ditch, or rampart (often used in the plural) "

Gator wrote on Sep 1, 2008 5:13 PM:

" Ivan, Can you read and then comprehend what youve read??? Just for a grin drop back down to, Gator wrote on Aug 31, 2008 12:01 PM: read it and
let it sink in, has the Messiah done anything close to that??? She has
run a fishing business, been a mayor of a small town and now Governor
Of Alaska. What has Biden done, hung out in a Kush job longer than he should have (term limits) As for the Messiah ,Hes run his mouth!!
As for conservatives other than Ronald Reagan what so called conservative has done anything for this country?? By your ranting I would say your more of a Troll than anything else. By the way Mr. conservative your master, RUSH thinks She is OK!! SORRY!! Also you leave the families out of your disgusting Rant, both families What you have is An American War Hero and an American Female Pioneer Hero vs A Communist Wannabe and a career Socialist. "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Sep 1, 2008 3:45 PM:

" Teen age fortification is the wages of Socialism.

Now, McCain and his Feminazi Valkerye are not only promising us the largest tax increase in history but also a baby in every unwed teen age cheerleaders belly.

I just can't support this sort of nonsense 548.39%.

I say give them both the boot and take this Party back for the conservatives that made it the Great Old Party! "

falcon wrote on Sep 1, 2008 2:35 PM:

" SARAH BARRACUDA, SARAH BARRACUDA. SARAH BARRACUDA "

falcon wrote on Sep 1, 2008 2:34 PM:

" Leonard, I also do not think that Palin has close friends like William Ayers. How, as an American, can you turn a blind eye to Obama's associations with these haters of this country is beyond me. "

falcon wrote on Sep 1, 2008 2:29 PM:

" dogbark, Palin will tell McCain... Give me that damn phone...Quit F-ing around and roast that piece of terrorist excrement.

Leonard, You think that Palin was not vetted? Who vetted Obama? Every time someone looks into his past, they see nothing but associations with corrupt scoundrels like Tony Resco and William Ayers. Then we find these kooks that he has been following for the past 20 years like Jeremiah Wright. The equivalent of that would be if we found out that Palin was taking kickbacks from oil companies and frequented KKK meetings for the past 20 years. I dont think the she is that bad. "

falcon wrote on Sep 1, 2008 2:20 PM:

" ID, Our choice is McCain vs. Obama. I am with you a 100% on McCain, but he is all we have. I do not see Palin as a Feminazi in the Rush Limbaugh vernacular. Rush loves Palin, I love Palin, I think his words were: Guns, baby's, and Jesus. Hot Damn. She is pro 2nd amendment, she is not a Washington insider, she is a hunteress, and her husband is in the oil business. She wants to drill and is articulate and more knowledgeable about markets than McCain, Obama, and Biden combined. The Feminazis are going to attack her because of her stance on abortion. It will be a loosing cause and will backfire in their faces. The base is inspired because she is impressive. SARAH BARRACUDA SARAH BARRACUDA. "

Leonard wrote on Sep 1, 2008 2:17 PM:

" Sigh....

Will the last conservative who thinks Palin was actually vetted please stand up? "

dogbark wrote on Sep 1, 2008 11:22 AM:

" falcon, why would Sarah be answering the phone? she's the veep. So instead I give you John MadCain

"Hello, damn it, do you know what time it is? It's 3 a.m. .. Oh, well why didn't you say so? You got him? Ok Dump his rice on the floor, heh heh. Now don't bother me again until 8 a.m." slam. "

Gator wrote on Sep 1, 2008 7:31 AM:

" This is the Democratic party at its best

Former DNC chair Don Fowler and Democrat Rep. John Spratts candid, malicious comments on a plane from Denver to Charlotte.

The hurricanes going to hit New Orleans about the time they start. [Chuckle] The timing is at least it appears now that itll be there Monday. That just demonstrates that Gods on our side. [Laughter] Everythings cool.

A person needs to be aware of cell phone Cameras, Fowler has since apologized ,my.my!! Its on u-tube "

Gator wrote on Sep 1, 2008 7:14 AM:

" Ivan, Ivan, Ivan!!!! They say a mind is a terrible to waste, Look what drinking the Wild Irish Rose has done to you!!! If you think Dubya
was the greatest ever and your party has been Hi-Jacked by socialist,
I have a question, What do you see when the lights are out and the
demons come??? "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Sep 1, 2008 1:22 AM:

" Falcon, my heroic young friend,you may know more than I do about military intelligence than I do but I have been following this McCain fellow since you were just a twinkle in your drill seargent's eye.

McCain is and has been one of the leadingSocialists in the left wing of theRepublican Party. He has spent the last 20years encouraging class conflict with his never ending campaign to deprive people of their right to freely express themselves based solely on the amount of money they have. TheMcCain Feingold bill, written in collaboration with theDemocrats, could jut as easily been drafted by KarlMarx.

Ms.Palin is just the inevitable comrade this founder of the American Politboro. She is a leading member of aFeminist organization.

You may have been out of the country when all of this happened but our party in the last 6 months has been submarined by the Socialist.In just half a year we have gone from being the Party of Bush The Greatest President This Country Has Ever Had to the Party of Nikita McCain.

The time has come to take our Party back! "

dogbark wrote on Aug 31, 2008 10:59 PM:

" Experience. Experience? Hmmm, the candidate must have experience.
What an odd argument, especially now that the republicans propose having Miss Congeniality a heart throb away from the Presidency. "

falcon wrote on Aug 31, 2008 10:53 PM:

" Hillary is a Feminazi, you have to look at the socialist aspect of a feminazi....Palin is not a socialist... "

falcon wrote on Aug 31, 2008 10:52 PM:

" Ivan, with all due respect,,,,,, WTF? Palin is not a Feminazi! "

TandC wrote on Aug 31, 2008 9:50 PM:

" Gator, as much time as Johnboy spent looking at Palin's butt, looks like the old boy like bunnns with his hot dogs. I'll bet Cindy loved the replay of johnboy's stares for that 25 minutes or so. "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Aug 31, 2008 6:50 PM:

" A MESSAGE FROM THE REPUBLICAN WING OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

Pat Robertson says that Hurricane Gustav is God's punishment on the GOP for choosing a feminazi as their VP.

You tell them Pat! I'm with you 538.9%!!!!

Lets take back our convention and give the Socialist McCain and his feminazi valkarye the boot! "

Gator wrote on Aug 31, 2008 6:14 PM:

" In the blink of an eye the smear factor hits Palin, Imagine that, another
Strange occurrence 2 of the smears came from an IP address of Stop the
Smear, Mr. Obamas site!!! You think!! Sounds like the old glass house
Trick to me eh Obama, Tony Rezko, 30,000 from Hamas, William Ayers
Richard Dailys favorite son!! It just goes on, push comes to shove
Obama is just an other politician from the Chicago machine with Daily
at the Controls "

TandC wrote on Aug 31, 2008 5:38 PM:

" Nor is the city council a place for the inexperienced. Or those who think they're "experienced" and know it all.

http://forums.recordnet.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=sr-news&tid=8697. "

Gator wrote on Aug 31, 2008 2:03 PM:

" CW says Obama should have laid back and let Hillary take the nomination
served her time as president and then as a 3 term Senator walked into the
white houseWith Obamas track record on the Second Amendment the
NRA couldnt be happier if Charlton Hesston had been reborn!!! As for
the so called Trooper Gate, its a perfect example of the Blue wall or
the thin blue line, good ol boys protecting a dirty cop!!! An other choice
I would have liked would have been Bobby Jindal, Governor of Louisiana
he is an other one who wont go along just to make the party happy. This
Country had best wake up, you change the way things run from the bottom up not the other way around. You demand accountability of our Government
and remove the lobbyist from the picture. Americans need to get back to can do and not rely on big brother, ya-all need to remember what words like
Honesty, Self Reliance. Loyalty, Courage and your word is your bond mean
I know they dont mean squat to a so-called modern Liberal, but that just
shows how out of touch you are!!! "

falcon wrote on Aug 31, 2008 12:29 PM:

" Sara Barracuda Sara Barracuda!! Sara Barracuda Sara Barracuda!!

Obama at 3:00am.... Hello this is Barack.. you have him...ahhhh.. what grounds.. that is not good enough..what will the Europeans think..it might make them mad.. let him go.

Sarah Palin at 3:00am? In a silky little.outfit...with her hair down....hello...yes.. yes...go ahead.. smoke em! . good night.. "

falcon wrote on Aug 31, 2008 12:18 PM:

" Leonard wrote.." I've been reading some of the analysis of McCains selection of Palin and what it basically comes down to is the fact that the Republican Party picked a woman for no other reason than the fact they couldn't stomach a Jew (Lieberman).

Leonard, that is ridiculous! What terrible analysis! What idiot suggested that? Republicans could not stomach a liberal democrat and McCain had to galvanize the base. His brilliant move is that his choice was a women.

What is ironic about your post is that it was the democrats who crucified Joe Lieberman (a jew) for his stance on the Iraq war. Talk about not being open minded. "

Gator wrote on Aug 31, 2008 12:01 PM:

" Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. Its on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.
As governor of Alaska, Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden's.
She's also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's counterterrorism plans.
Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country's defense. Given Alaska's proximity to Russia, she may have security clearances we don't even know about.
According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets.
She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is. I guess she is just a little more than fluff by the way
This from WAPO!! "

Lou Branch wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:53 AM:

" Most guys wouldn't bring a gal friend home
to Momma after meeting her twice. Old John not only brought her home but he wants her to be the next V.P. of the good old USA. I think the "Maverick"is losing
whatever he has left of a 72 year old brain. Someone please help the guy. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:44 AM:

" I've been reading some of the analysis of McCains selection of Palin and what it basically comes down to is the fact that the Republican Party picked a woman for no other reason than the fact they couldn't stomach a Jew (Lieberman).

You've come a long way, baby! "

Leonard wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:37 AM:

" Brian wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:22 AM:

Isn't denial a bi+ch.


You would know. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:36 AM:

" mike wrote on Aug 31, 2008 8:05 AM:

And does anyone know why the Ms. instead of Mrs. P


Palin is a self identified feminist. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:35 AM:

" Brian wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:19 AM:

Well Leonard, If something happens to Obama if he gets elected we can call Biden "The almost as old as McCain bedraggled old dinosaur that is definately unfit to lead the world's largest economy". :)


My point was not regarding McCain's age. Ronald Reagan was almost as old as McCain and he was a fine President. My point was that McCain is grossly out of touch with the American people and the American economy, to such an extent that the man doesn't even know how to send an email! "

Brian wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:22 AM:

" Leonard wrote: Far from it. The Democrats I know are all celebrating this massive blunder on the part of the McCain campaign. We couldn't be happier.

-Isn't denial a bitch. "

Brian wrote on Aug 31, 2008 11:19 AM:

" Leonard wrote:Just a further example of why this bedraggled old dinosaur is unfit to lead the worlds largest economy. "

Well Leonard, If something happens to Obama if he gets elected we can call Biden "The almost as old as McCain bedraggled old dinosaur that is definately unfit to lead the world's largest economy". :) "

Gator wrote on Aug 31, 2008 10:01 AM:

" Talk about howling like a mashed cat, How dare McCain steel the Messiahs
thunder!!! Ill bet Harry Truman sat up in his grave with a grin on his face. so now Leonard dont start, you know my party and you also I have no use
for the George Soros controlled Democratic party of to day. In fact Im going to vote against Bill Sali Republican here in Idaho and for Walt
Minnick Conservative Democrat.. Ms Palin is just what McCain needs
a maverick just like him self and is a breath of fresh air. Obama picks
a D C insider, one of the good old boys, McCain picks a wild card, Bingo!
I cant wait for Palin and Biden debate!!! The libs are whining about she
Has no experience Well what about the Messiah, the only thing he has done
Is chair a committee headed by William Ayers he cant remember and has
basically been on the road for 2 years running for office. I love the Heart
beat away from being president, so what?? That is what the Presidents cabinet is for, right!! And Life member of the NRA "

mike wrote on Aug 31, 2008 8:05 AM:

" I'll join Falcon with; Sara Barracuda Sara Barracuda!!
And I'll ask "election year" how she figures her MO is out of the 50's?
And does anyone know why the Ms. instead of Mrs. P ? "

Leonard wrote on Aug 31, 2008 7:35 AM:

" falcon wrote on Aug 31, 2008 4:08 AM:

Her son and her husband are democrats.


Indeed. Those who know her best reject her political philosophy.

They may vote for her out of personal loyalty but they know that her politics and her party are wrong. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 31, 2008 7:34 AM:

" falcon wrote on Aug 31, 2008 4:08 AM:

" Sarah Barracuda Sarah Barracuda. What a Women! I cant wait for her to dust up the establishment arrogant liberals with her real life experience.


Real life experience as the mayor of a town the size of Clements. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 31, 2008 7:32 AM:

" so he could use the Google that is.

I'm not quite sure why the LNS decided to delete that particular phrase. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 31, 2008 7:31 AM:

" Brian wrote on Aug 30, 2008 10:58 PM:

-Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. There is some fact checking on it. To say that it's a credible source all the time is foolish. Leonard's always ctiticizing me and others for fact checking. Here he refers to a site that is below average to average in making sure it's content is accurate. Snopes is much better but still not a totally reliable source.


Chuckle... Well we know that McCain didn't check either because he didn't have anyone to get him at line so he could use .

Just a further example of why this bedraggled old dinosaur is unfit to lead the worlds largest economy. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 31, 2008 7:29 AM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Aug 30, 2008 9:52 PM:

The only ones worrying about her are the Democrats here and everywhere else; and worry they should.


Far from it. The Democrats I know are all celebrating this massive blunder on the part of the McCain campaign. We couldn't be happier.

All we have to do is wait until McCain irrevocably nominates her as his running mate and then, when he can't back out, his ship will be sunk, finally and forever. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 31, 2008 7:26 AM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Aug 30, 2008 9:52 PM:
" This issue with Palin will be a non-issue because she did nothing wrong. Of course she should be investigated; but the result will reveal a woman with an incredible level of integrity and honor.


All of which you know based on two days of news coverage. Gee Safeway, I sure am glad that you have thoroughly researched this issue.

The fact is that the GOP drones would have hailed whoever McCain chose as the new Messiah. "

falcon wrote on Aug 31, 2008 4:26 AM:

" Sarah's ethics problem Palin comparison to Obama's affiliation and ethics problems with terrorists,racists, and convicted slumlords that buy him houses. Sarah Barracuda Sarah Barracuda. Sorry.... I just had to chant that... "

falcon wrote on Aug 31, 2008 4:08 AM:

" Sarah Barracuda Sarah Barracuda. What a Women! I cant wait for her to dust up the establishment arrogant liberals with her real life experience. Her son and her husband are democrats. That will be two of many that vote for her. You can tell that the conservative base has just been cemented by the liberals apoplectic reaction to Sarah Barracuda. Oh she is hot too. "

Election Year wrote on Aug 31, 2008 1:26 AM:

" lodisafeway: McCain commited political suicide yesterday by announcing Palin as his running mate. If he hooked up with her solely because she is a woman and wanted to woo the Hillary supporters, he was horribly advised. No one who supports Hillary supports the beliefs of this totally out-of-touch woman from some podunk town in Alaska. Her total MO is from the 1950's - maybe women from the FLDS will vote for McCain now - Only if their "keepers" will allow them to go to the polls. God forbid McCain drops dead (as he will sometime during his administration) and we are stuck with "Mrs. Absolutely no Experience in International (or national) Affairs," let's hope Dick Cheney is still on Speed Dial to lead us as he has for the past 8 years! Better than Mrs. Flip-Flopper who supports corruption then opposes it. At least Cheney has only one agenda, his own! "

Brian wrote on Aug 30, 2008 11:31 PM:

" TandC wrote:

" Sam, that blog by Brian regarding your husband's opinion was absolutely disgusting. I'd be the first to suggest he be put on ignore until an apology is made for his atrocious comment about someone he not only doesn't know, but lucky he's in Phoenix. I had very little respect for Brian to begin with and his holier than thou attitude and now I have absolutely none left at all. I guess Brian feels same in his haven with the reputation as the murder capitol of the world. You fit in nicely, Brian.
-T and C, half the voters in this country
feel it's foolish to vote for Obama. Care to do a poll on how those voting for McCain feel about Obama?
I don't need to know someone to say they are foolish by their actions.
Now, you have some facts that Phoenix is the murder capital of the world?
And what does my residence here have anything to do with murder rate here anyway? Perhaps if you weren't so far away in Lodi you wouldn't be quite as
brave to lump me together with the murderers here. Be careful what you say! "

Brian wrote on Aug 30, 2008 10:58 PM:

" Leonard Wrote: Palin was a desperate attempt by the powers to be to at least pick someone in time to try to steal Obama's thunder. I doubt they even read her Wikipedia page.

-Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. There is some fact checking on it. To say that it's a credible source all the time is foolish. Leonard's always ctiticizing me and others for fact checking. Here he refers to a site that is below average to average in making sure it's content is accurate. Snopes is much better but still not a totally reliable source. "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 30, 2008 9:52 PM:

" This issue with Palin will be a non-issue because she did nothing wrong. Of course she should be investigated; but the result will reveal a woman with an incredible level of integrity and honor.

The only ones worrying about her are the Democrats here and everywhere else; and worry they should. While the adage has always been that Presidential elections are not won as a result of the vice-presidential selection, I submit that this one may very well be lost (by the Democrats) because of McCain's choice.

Biden is a liability; he certainly wasn't the first choice. I believe had Obama and Hillary not been so vicious toward one another during their own primary, she would have been selected. But there are so many instances that clearly undermine each other to such an enormous extent that the majority of their campaign (and their money) would have been spent on repairing the damage they inflicted upon themselves and the Democrat Party itself.

What this also proves is that neither Obama nor Clinton could see past their own noses during the primary to understand just what they were doing to themselves with regard to the general election. Pity. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 30, 2008 6:59 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Aug 30, 2008 12:30 PM:
" Leonard, you don't think the troopergate thing was looked into completely before this announcement?


No, I really don't.

The way I see it, McCain wanted Lieberman, a lot of the Party wanted Romney (who McCain hates) and there was a deadlock.

Palin was a desperate attempt by the powers to be to at least pick someone in time to try to steal Obama's thunder. I doubt they even read her Wikipedia page.

The whole thing reminds me of that time when Reagan, having failed to get Bork confirmed for the Supreme Court, tossed around wildly only to select Douglas Ginsburg, a man who was known for getting high with his law students.

Its hard to believe but sometimes even the most mighty bureaucracy makes a decision out of desperation.

The McCain Campaign is desperate and thus we have Ms. Palin. "

TandC wrote on Aug 30, 2008 2:28 PM:

" Sam, that blog by Brian regarding your husband's opinion was absolutely disgusting. I'd be the first to suggest he be put on ignore until an apology is made for his atrocious comment about someone he not only doesn't know, but lucky he's in Phoenix. I had very little respect for Brian to begin with and his holier than thou attitude and now I have absolutely none left at all. I guess Brian feels same in his haven with the reputation as the murder capitol of the world. You fit in nicely, Brian. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 30, 2008 2:13 PM:

" Leonard wrote "This is one of the things I like about Brian. Reading his posts is kind of like doing a crossword puzzle."

That's the truth! LOL! Maybe Brian's communication skills are better when he's had a few...except for the fact that he ends up cussing everyone out. Poor guy. He has such a hard time. ;-) "

TandC wrote on Aug 30, 2008 1:48 PM:

" Cogito, I'm no Biden fan, but when he was a youngster in grade school, he stuttered so bad and always wanted to talk but couldn't even get the first owrd out. He worked very hard to overcome his speech impediment and now it looks like we're the captors of his success. Hence, his love of gab, if you haven't noticed. "

TandC wrote on Aug 30, 2008 1:38 PM:

" And, Leonard, you still da' man! That was some great humor today, too! Thanks. Do you think that Ms. Palin, in her republican dominated state, will help McCain cpature Alaska and its 1 electoral vote? LOL "

TandC wrote on Aug 30, 2008 1:33 PM:

" Gator, I'm with you and wtf on this one, although I do like both sides opinions. That's what makes America great! "

Cogito wrote on Aug 30, 2008 12:30 PM:

" Leonard, you don't think the troopergate thing was looked into completely before this announcement? Palin has an over 80% approval rating in her home state, her lowest since she's taken office. Sounds to me that I'm not the one engaging in "wishful thinking" here. "

voter wrote on Aug 30, 2008 9:17 AM:

" Thanks for that, Leonard. Always good to start the day with a chuckle. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 30, 2008 9:13 AM:

" Brian wrote on Aug 30, 2008 8:18 AM:

Lodian, Try to use your imagination and insert "understand" in the proper place in the sentence. And take out the other "the".


This is one of the things I like about Brian. Reading his posts is kind of like doing a crossword puzzle.

It keeps my brain limber.

:) "

Leonard wrote on Aug 30, 2008 9:11 AM:

" Cogito, it sounds to me like you are engaged in some aggressive wishful thinking.

If a lone amateur Alaskan blogger was able to uncover Troopergate, imagine what will turn up once Palin has been vetted by the national media and the Obama campaign.

People who abuse political power for personal ends do not do so on just a single occasion. This is serial behavior.

My prediction is that Palin will be forced to drop out by mid October.

As for McCain's chances after that.... "

Brian wrote on Aug 30, 2008 8:18 AM:

" Lodian wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:30 PM:

" Brian wrote "But, really Sam, to not the the radical in Obama is foolish at the least."

Lodian, Try to use your imagination and insert "understand" in the proper place in the sentence. And take out the other "the". :) "

Brian wrote on Aug 30, 2008 8:14 AM:

" http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/500wrhjq.asp

Why the left is scared to death of Palin. "

Brian wrote on Aug 30, 2008 8:12 AM:

" Sam wrote: Actually Brian, I told him what you said about him and who you are. He said, "He has family here." He knows your family. Too funny. "

-Well, except for my deceased parents at Cherokee, there is nobody else in Lodi related to me. One of my brothers lives in Stockton. "

Cogito wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:42 PM:

" Did anyone else happen to catch the montage of Obamas speech on the Limbaugh show this morning? In Obamas own words, he played how many of his sentences started with the pronoun "I". It took literally minutes to play through. Then it ended with Obamas line, "but this election isn't about me". I laughed for a solid minute. No morning zoo show had anything funnier than that. "

Cogito wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:22 PM:

" You can save your tears of bitterness for 4 years from now when Hillary loses to Palin in the first, all woman, American presidential election in history. The Dems will throw the election this year in hopes of winning the next one. Which they will lose too. "

Cogito wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:51 PM:

" LOL. you liberals just got your butts kicked. McCain will have a 5% lead in 2 weeks. Mark my word. Obama just got out Obamaed. The maverick ticket of change, just became the Republican ticket. Biden made Obama the same old, same old. Palin gave McCain everything he needs. A radio poll today found an over 90% approval rating for McCains pick. So long suckers! Hahahahahaha! "

Lodian wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:30 PM:

" Brian wrote "But, really Sam, to not the the radical in Obama is foolish at the least."

What the heck does this mean? LOL! "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:00 PM:

" My final comment on Ron Paul - real slow.

Y A W N! ! ! "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:57 PM:

" sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:53 PM:

Lieberman, the in-house-McCain companion


LOL!!!

Is that what they are calling that these days?

How progressive! "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:53 PM:

" Leonard, lay off Palin. McCain met her once before choosing her. Today was their second meeting. Obviously he was "inspired". This is a true sign.

When asked about the Iraq war she said she really has not thought about it much.

Leonard, be nice. She has Lieberman, the in-house-McCain companion, to educate her. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:53 PM:

" I wonder what they are going to call this one?

My first thought was "Trooper Gate" but that one was already taken. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:45 PM:

" To top it all off, after Palin fired the Public Safety Commissioner because he wouldn't can her sisters ex, she replaced him with a crony who, among other things, had been previously suspended and investigated for sexual harassment of an employee.

Palin's Alaskan Administration sort of reminds me of the Galt City Council.

Of course, they have about the same number of constituents. "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:44 PM:

" Brian, NO, he is not foolish. You may think his choice is foolish, but he is not foolish.

Actually Brian, I told him what you said about him and who you are. He said, "He has family here." He knows your family. Too funny. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:37 PM:

" Yeah Gator.

Of the dozens of contacts that the Governor and her office had with the Public Safety Commissioner's office, that is the single transcript that Palin has released.

I wonder what the other transcripts look like?

State Legislatures with Republican majorities in both houses do not launch ethics investigations into Republican Governors without some serious provocation. "

Gator wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:27 PM:

" Talk about stealing some ones thunder!!

Sarah the Barracuda, ah life is good!! "

Gator wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:22 PM:

" Part #2
And theres a gentleman by the name of Mike Wooten, whos a trooper in the Valley. Theres a family tie with the governor there and so I think because of that, my understanding is, you know, Walt [Monegan] has been very reluctant to take any action. But there are some very clear facts out there that and these things actually happened that he Tasered his 11-year-old kid, he drove drunk in a patrol car, he shot a cow moose out of season. The Palins cant figure out why nothing is going on. Heres the problem thats gonna happen. There is a possibility because Wooten is an ex-husband of the governors sister and there is a custody situation, there is a strong possibility that the governor herself may get subpoenaed to talk about all this stuff on the stand in the coming months. It would be ugly. I dont think anybody wants that but, you know, Todd and Sarah [Palin] are scratching their heads, Why on earth hasnt this, why is this guy still representing the department? Hes a horrible recruiting tool, you know. From their perspective, everybodys protecting him "

Gator wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:19 PM:

" Part #1

From USA Today

Her office has a released a recording of one of the calls, between Frank Bailey, who oversees boards and commissions for Palin, and Lt. Rodney Dial of the state police. Here's an excerpt, based on a partial transcript produced by the Daily News, in which Bailey describes his concerns "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:16 PM:

" I think it is safe to say that a lot of Republican's are going to bed tonight asking themselves "what the heck was he thinking?"

Of course, many of them are probably still wondering "who the heck is she?" "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:14 PM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:11 PM:

Yesterday may have been Obama's night; but clearly this is a great day for Republicans - and they've got a week of free campaigning (insofar as the media is concerned) from Minnesota to come!


I'm just curious. If you were in charge of picking your parties VP candidate, would you really go with a woman who is the subject of an active ethics investigation? "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:11 PM:

" Brian wrote on Aug 29, 2008 6:44 PM:

Read the full test of his speech. If you don't see the liberal and radical
rhetoric something is wrong with you.
Even the AP is acknowledging when he raises taxes ( and he will ) it is not good for the economy.


Brian, have you read the McCain Health Insurance Plan Brian?

John McCain is proposing the largest tax increase on the poor and the middle class in modern history. By taxing employers contributions to employee health insurance McCain will drive working families into poverty all while smothering the rich in even more tax giveaways. "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:11 PM:

" No, what is hilarious is now McCain has a woman on the ticket who after being the first female Vice President could very well be the first female President. Obama's campaign revealed the first indication of their obvious fear over her candidacy even before she ascended the podium to speak - even before she was officially presented.

Of course he then backtracked after soon-to-be Vice President Palin delivered what can only be described as one of the most gracious, intelligent and articulate speeches by any vice-presidential candidate as she accepted this great honor. And much of that graciousness was directed at Hillary Clinton herself. Obama accurately reflects what he thinks of her as a potential female chief executive by jealously keeping Hillary off of his ticket. He certainly didn't see this coming; but he should have.

Yesterday may have been Obama's night; but clearly this is a great day for Republicans - and they've got a week of free campaigning (insofar as the media is concerned) from Minnesota to come!

He may have slept well last night; but Obama will be tossing and turning this night for sure. Gotta love American politics! "

Gator wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:03 PM:

" Everett Dirksen made this quote, if your going to look in a mans closet
For a skeleton you had better make sure your closet is clean!!! "

voter wrote on Aug 29, 2008 7:36 PM:

" This is hilarious. Karl Rove on Face the Nation a couple of weeks ago stating that he thought Obama would pick Kaine as his running mate and how inappropriate this would be--Kaine being too inexperienced, only three years as governor and mayor of a smallish city--certainly this pick would be political and not about honoring the presidency! LOL
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/29/vp-picks-karl-rove-swings-and-misses-big-time/ "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Aug 29, 2008 6:53 PM:

" JUMPING JESUS ON A POGO STICK!!!

What is this world coming to????

It was bad enough when John McCain, a known Socialist, became the party's nominee but NOW they are going to give the Vice Presidency, the office Dick Cheney made sacred, to a FEMINAZI???

Strom Thurmond must be spinning in his grave!

Will the last real conservative to leave the Republican Party please take the picture of me and Dick Nixon naked in the hot tub? "

Brian wrote on Aug 29, 2008 6:44 PM:

" sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 5:06 PM:

" Brian, it would be appropriate for you to say you think his choice is foolish, but it is wrong for you to attack his integrity and call him a fool.

However, being as uneducated as you are, I really do not believe you understand the difference. "

Sam, OK he's foolish.

Now, since you know so little about me
it is more appropriate for you to have said I made uneducated remarks about your husband.

But, really Sam, to not the the radical
in Obama is foolish at the least.

Read the full test of his speech. If you don't see the liberal and radical
rhetoric something is wrong with you.
Even the AP is acknowledging when he raises taxes ( and he will ) it is not good for the economy. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 6:32 PM:

" I can just imagine a group of McCains staffers sitting around tonight getting drunk on Budweiser and having the following conversation:

Staffer 1) I didn't know she was the subject of an ongoing ethics investigation. Did you know that she was the subject of an ongoing ethics investigation?

Staffer 2) No, I thought you were supposed to find out if she was the subject of an ongoing ethics investigation.

Staffer 3) You idiots! Why didn't someone find out whether she was the subject of an ongoing ethics investigation??? "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 6:01 PM:

" Mr. Rubin sure does assume a lot, doesn't he? His suggestion that I would not have known of Sarah Palin a week ago reveals this assertion (but again the "G" reference is annoying). Actually she, along with Hutchinson of Texas would have been on my short-list of women who McCain might consider for his choice. True I had not heard her speak but I did perform my own research into her background as it appeared the GOP vice-presidential choice was going to be more pivotal than first thought.

Mr. Rubin also conveniently leaves out my references (on three posts on this very blog) that "barring any skeletons or other negative information regarding Palin or those close to her," or words to that effect, she will go a long way to ensure a McCain victory in November.

The vetting is just now starting; it will be a number of weeks before the "jury" returns. In the meantime I'll just read, listen and learn. I've done the same with Obama ever since he became a viable Presidential candidate. Unfortunately, he hasn't been as successful in the vetting process as I think he would have liked. "

wtf wrote on Aug 29, 2008 5:47 PM:

" And regarding McCain copying or not copying others. How about that scandal where he lifted his speech right from the pages of Wikepedia?

From the article:

"What concerns me more, as a voter, is the ethical issue. Plagiarism comes from dishonesty and intellectual laziness on the part of an individual, but McCain's campaign's later denial adopts that individual's dishonesty," stated Vector."

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_investigates_claim_McCain_plagiarized_speech_from_Wikipedia "

wtf wrote on Aug 29, 2008 5:47 PM:

" lodisafeway said: "Now if anyone wants to believe that Congressman Paul (or his campaign) has had any influence on any other candidate or their respective campaigns..."

OK, "lodisafeway" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) I'll say it r-e-a-l s-l-o-w so you can understand.

Ron Paul had HUGE campaign contributions; so much so, the MSM took notice and the other candidates definitely wanted a piece of that pie.

Plus, when he dropped out of the race, it was noted that his supporters **still** supported him and the other candidates wanted to know what he had.

Politicians being the chameleons they are, are not averse to picking up ideas wherever they are found; however, the difference is most politicos only talk the talk; they don't walk the walk.

I imagine you didn't look at the link re: Palin as a good VP for Paul dated almost a year ago which only shows me how you revel in your lack of knowledge. "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 5:42 PM:

" For those of you who have been worried about the price of gas, I think help is on its way. Sean "Diddy" Combs has evidently released a video that calls for the Saudi government to help him out (and I suppose the rest of us might benefit if his plea is answered) as it has adversely affected him.

I have not watched the video (settling instead to just read about it) so while I don't regularly post hyperlinks to other websites, this one will further explain what Mr. Combs has done on his (and our) behalf. Enjoy!

The article:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,413582,00.html

The video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmfjkhVhg7A "

voter wrote on Aug 29, 2008 5:07 PM:

" Applause "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 5:06 PM:

" Brian, it would be appropriate for you to say you think his choice is foolish, but it is wrong for you to attack his integrity and call him a fool.

However, being as uneducated as you are, I really do not believe you understand the difference. "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 5:02 PM:

" Brian, you are a LIAR.
My husband is NOT a fool. He is a hard working, intelligent, college educated, wealthy man who is a wonderful husband and an exception father. Oh yeah, and he is HOT.

Unlike you, an ignorant fool, who refuses to give your family health insurance.

Brian, grow up. Quit attacking people you have never met. "

Brian wrote on Aug 29, 2008 4:52 PM:

" sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 3:58 PM:

" Bob, my husband is a die heart Republican. But last night Obama's speech won him over. It is worth watching it if you can find it. "

Sam, your husband is a fool on two accounts.

1. He must not understand why he always voted Republican.

2. He definately doesn't understand all the liberal rhetoric in Obama's speech.

He should read the text of it before it's too late. "

Brian wrote on Aug 29, 2008 4:48 PM:

" Leonard wrote: McCain has decades of experience at making the wrong decisions. America can not afford four more years of the Bush Administrations disastrous policies. "

-Ah with the grandstanding again. "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 3:58 PM:

" Bob, my husband is a die heart Republican. But last night Obama's speech won him over. It is worth watching it if you can find it. "

wtf wrote on Aug 29, 2008 3:28 PM:

" Leonard wrote: "No, I was referring to the Lieutenant on Homicide, a great character who I would be delighted to share a nickname with."

Hmmmm....I thought "G" was for girard.... "

Billy Rubin wrote on Aug 29, 2008 3:13 PM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:09 AM:"After hearing Governor Palin speak without the assistance of a teleprompter OR by even once glancing at any notes...it is apparent that McCain has made an excellent selection for Vice President. This Vice Presidential candidate is a brilliant choice. She's tough, intelligent, and articulate; and in her debut..."

From that speech he's divined she's "brilliant, tough, intelligent"? How wonderful! I feel confident G74 could not have named the governor of Alaska a week ago, nor would he have recognized her name if he had heard it, yet today "...it is apparent that McCain has made an excellent selection for Vice President."

Let's see... didn't G also give props to Obama as a speaker? Or did he say speeches mean nothing. Oh, drat! The tangled web again! "

Bob Loblaw wrote on Aug 29, 2008 2:06 PM:

" Thanks sam. "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 2:03 PM:

" Hey Bob, do you get MSNBC or CNN?? I bet they are showing it again. The whole event was spectacular. "

Bob Loblaw wrote on Aug 29, 2008 1:33 PM:

" I was one of those PBS viewers. My power went out mysteriously just as Obama was about to begin. As I was cursing the right wing conspirators in Lodi who no doubt targeted only the power in identified liberal homes, I realized PBS would save me with their encore airing of the speech later that night. The neutral analysis afterward was refreshing as well. Thank you public television! "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 1:18 PM:

" Leonard, more people watched Obama than the open ceremonies of the olympics and the final American Idol and that is not counting anyone who watched it on c-span or pbs
... 38 million plus "

MARZO2008 wrote on Aug 29, 2008 1:13 PM:

" you are right bob!!! Bob H. L. It's not until you are in the white that it counts and the people that help you do the job that makes the difference. McCain already said that he will "stay the course". keep fighting in Iraq. fending for ourselves and things will be just like they are now. And now picking a VP an unknown is just like him. Not knowing what to do "right". It's o.k. he will lose anyway. I don't vote for losers and we need change to go in the right direction in America. "

Aimee wrote on Aug 29, 2008 12:54 PM:

" Leonard @ 11:53 AM: LOL!! "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 12:28 PM:

" Did I mention that I have a cold today?

This Tylenol PM cr@p is killing me. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 12:25 PM:

" Hmmm... I didn't know that. Now I sort of do see how someone could take offense.

No, I was referring to the Lieutenant on Homicide, a great character who I would be delighted to share a nickname with.

From Wikipedia: Al Giardello generally called "Gee" is the shift commander of the Homicide unit followed by the series "

Bob Loblaw wrote on Aug 29, 2008 12:24 PM:

" What color do you claim lodisafeway? "

Bob Loblaw wrote on Aug 29, 2008 12:17 PM:

" Just an FYI (and to keep a funny sub-strand going): Back in the day, "G" was street for gangster. "What up G?" Was a way bangers greeted each other. TV has apparently laundered the term. "

Lou Branch wrote on Aug 29, 2008 12:13 PM:

" It would worry me sick if a 72 year old man was in the White House and answered the phone at 3:00 A.M.and had to make an important decision knowing that he doesn't even know how many houses he owns and believes that you don't become rich until you make 5 million $$! Any thing below that is middle class. But not to worry, we will have a 44 year old V.P mother of five
who will set him straight. Give me a break! "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 12:08 PM:

" I'm not riled up at all. I only desired to answer your question and give you the reasons for my answer.

However, you certainly didn't explain your reason for making the request in the original post. In fact, you asked a further question (I suppose of yourself) about a television program that you also failed to answer. Where I fit into this conversation is still a mystery to me; but it certainly is not upsetting.

I would suggest that if you don't want an answer to your questions, simply don't ask.

Peace Unto You as Well. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 12:02 PM:

" Well, since my name starts with L that is probably out. Then "S" it is.

Seriously, I was not trying to rile you up. As I explained, "G" was a one letter term of respect that comes from the TV show "Homicide: Life on the Streets" which is one of my favorites.

I honestly don't understand why this business has upset you so but I do apologize for any offense I may have (unintentionally) caused.

Pax? "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:58 AM:

" That should have read "L" or "S". Still, do what you like. "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:56 AM:

" No, you weren't trying to be polite. Polite would have been if you had requested to use the letter "S" instead of typing out "lodisafeway" as you indicated it was easier for you. "G" makes absolutely no sense; it was I who was trying to be polite by letting you know where I stand on the matter. I didn't attempt to tell you what you could or could not do; I left it up to you to decide for yourself. I would be remiss however had I not revealed that your choice of "G" to refer to me is somewhat strange. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:53 AM:

" Aimee wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:49 AM:

" Although one may assert that the Republicans have shot themselves in the foot by choosing Palin to be McCain's running mate, the decision to announce McCain's choice this morning effectively took the focus from Obama's speech last night and placed it squarely with McCain and Palin


True, but given the nature of the announcement, it is not clear to me why they would have wanted to do that.

Look! We have chosen someone even more inexperienced than the guy we spent the last three months bashing as "inexperienced".

Hey!

Over here!

Look at us! "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:51 AM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:48 AM:

Of course without it needing to be stated, there is nothing that requires me to refer to you as "Leonard," "Leo," "L" or to even respond to you (or anyone else) at all. I would much rather folks keep to the subjects at hand than waste their time discussing the manner in which they choose to address others. It seems rather bizarre to me.


Wow. And here I was just trying to be polite. "

Aimee wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:49 AM:

" Although one may assert that the Republicans have shot themselves in the foot by choosing Palin to be McCain's running mate, the decision to announce McCain's choice this morning effectively took the focus from Obama's speech last night and placed it squarely with McCain and Palin. "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:48 AM:

" You can call me anything you want (within reason), although I cannot imagine why you would want to saddle me with the letter "G." I have been curious as to who you and another were referring to recently.

Yet since there is no letter "G" in my screen name nor my true name (not that I have ever revealed that information here), it makes no sense to refer to me in this way and then ask for my permission to do so. But if you insist, there is no way that I can stop you.

Of course without it needing to be stated, there is nothing that requires me to refer to you as "Leonard," "Leo," "L" or to even respond to you (or anyone else) at all. I would much rather folks keep to the subjects at hand than waste their time discussing the manner in which they choose to address others. It seems rather bizarre to me. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:35 AM:

" lodisafeway: BTW, you don't mind if I refer to you as "G" do you? It is a lot easier to write than "lodisafeway".

I don't know where it comes from. Didn't they used to call the Lieutenant on "Homicide" G? "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:33 AM:

" But seriously, G, what to what executive experience were you referring? Did she run a company or something?

I didn't see anything about it in the articles I read. "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:27 AM:

" That's funny stuff, Leonard - very funny. "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:27 AM:

" I've already stated that McCain's marital situation is something that he will need to answer for during the election. I even used the words, ". . . and well he should [be held to account]," on a separate blog referring to this very subject. I do take others' commitments to their oaths seriously. Here, it will be up to the American people if McCain's reputation in this regard will prevent him from becoming the next President of the United States.

Since the "value" of marriage has been reduced to such a low level in our country I do not believe that his candidacy will be fatally damaged by this particular aspect of his character. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:22 AM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:23 AM:

Governor Palin has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined


I don't know, Biden was the President of his High School Chess Club. It's membership was only slightly smaller than the population of Alaska. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:14 AM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:50 AM:

Whether or not he's going to attempt to run off with soon-to-be Vice President Palin is a subject reserved for the truly pathetic and purely hypocritical. But this is exactly what I have come to expect from the so-called "liberal" leaning side of our society. "


A statement reserved for either the entirely humorless or someone who is actually concerned that their candidate may have a character deficit when it comes to those "til death do us part" types of oaths. "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:12 AM:

" Now if anyone wants to believe that Congressman Paul (or his campaign) has had any influence on any other candidate or their respective campaigns I suppose that might make his followers feel a little bit better about his less than mediocre run for the Presidency. It is more than a stretch, however. "

wtf wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:07 AM:

" What amazes me is how BOTH parties have used some of Ron Paul's stuff.

In Obama's speech last night, he said the "Election wasn't about me (Obama) - it was about you."

Hmmmm....Ron Paul said that back when he dropped out i.e., the Campaign isn't about me; it's about liberty.

And McCain's choice of Palin is very interesting. Came across a blast from the past in this article written September 22, 2007 - almost a year ago.

Sarah Palin Would Be Best VP For Ron Paul

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/2317

And God has spoken - Hurricane-force winds, heavy rain hit Phoenix area

http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory.asp?cat=national&id=20080829/48b77440_3421_1334520080829490125454

The Rally for the Republic will be covered, off and on, by CSPAN-2 on TV and by Break the Matrix online.

http://breakthematrix.com/content/Meet-Us-in-Person-this-Sunday-BTM-Rally-Kickoff-Party "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:50 AM:

" Actually, I DID need to wait until I heard what she had to say. And what she said floored me. Yet, there is still the need to let the process continue to adequately investigate her background. But as I've said previously unless there are skeletons in her closet (or those close to her), this is an exceptionally brilliant move by John McCain.

Whether or not he's going to attempt to run off with soon-to-be Vice President Palin is a subject reserved for the truly pathetic and purely hypocritical. But this is exactly what I have come to expect from the so-called "liberal" leaning side of our society. "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:30 AM:

" Oh I agree safeway. One look at her and I knew we had a winner. The perfect Vice President of the United States of America. She didn't even have to open her mouth.

Ah feels so good to be back with the intelligent party. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:28 AM:

" Chuckle....

G, you are doing a remarkable job of sewing a purse out of a sows ear.

I don't envy you your task this morning.

You know, I heard they were also considering the Mayor of Jacksonville Florida for the position. He had been in office for three years but he didn't have as good of hair. "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:23 AM:

" Of course experience is important. Governor Palin has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined. And she brings so much more to the ticket that this election is now McCain's to lose. This is a brilliant move.

Palin only adds to the value of the Republican Party - and (again) barring any unforseen problems that may arise during the vetting of this woman and her family, November 4th is going to be a very wonderful day indeed. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:23 AM:

" Palin has more hair. "

Bob Loblaw wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:22 AM:

" Who is hotter, President Laura Roslyn on Battlestar, or Ms. Palin? I think Roslyn has more experience. HAHAHAHAH. Thanks Republicans. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:15 AM:

" I am please to see that we will no longer be hearing attacks on Barak Obama's experience from our friends on the right.

With McCain delicately poised with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel, any VP choice of his HAS to be ready to assume the Presidency on day one.

Evidently, McCain is comfortable with a potential President who has slightly more experience than a San Joaquin County Supervisor. If that is sufficient, than surely the experience of a US Senator should be more than enough. "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:09 AM:

" After hearing Governor Palin speak without the assistance of a teleprompter OR by even once glancing at any notes that may have been placed before her, it is apparent that McCain has made an excellent selection for Vice President.

Not once did she attack the opposition; no, she went so far as to actually honor the accomplishments of Geraldine Ferraro and Hillary Clinton. This is one classy lady who, barring any hidden garbage will go a very long way to ensure a McCain victory in November.

Even before she was introduced the negativity was emitting from the Obama campaign; the fear was already evident but I didn't understand why. If Palin was first believed to be so weak and unthreatening, why should they try for a preemptive strike that would only make them appear weak and pathetic themselves? I now know the answer.

This Vice Presidential candidate is a brilliant choice. She's tough, intelligent, and articulate; and in her debut before the entire nation proves she isn't afraid to speak her mind. I had been worried about a Biden/Palin debate; but not anymore. I say - Bring It On!! "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:55 AM:

" And she has the experience of running a state with a population that is roughly equal to that of San Joaquin County for a whole two years (almost)! "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:47 AM:

" Of course I am going to return to my Republican party. Finally a gorgeous, brainy candidate. Well done John. I am so impressed with my party. "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:45 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:17 AM:" I like her because she's better looking than Biden."

I agree. She is hot looking and has brains. The perfect running mate for McCain. Well said Cogito. "

wtf wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:42 AM:

" This country is already at each other's throats...."red" states, "blue" states, this, that and the other thing.

With these two candidates, are we in for a wild ride! A black man with a Catholic in tow and an old geezer with a woman in tow and of course there were the obligatory shots of the Jews at the DNC Convention and most probably also at the GOP Convention.

All of this is pandering the "special" people in our society and chaos is about to be unleashed. Another reason why I like Ron Paul - his message of liberty unites - you have old, young, man, woman, black, yellow, red and white - any "group" you can imagine UNITED in the one purpose of liberty.

This is the UNITED States of America after all. On a side note, just came across this film. It shows that our current economic problems are the result of BOTH parties.

http://www.iousathemovie.com/ "

Cogito wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:42 AM:

" Leonard, I think it is a gambit by McCain to sew up the Eskimo vote, always an important demographic. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:22 AM:

" Cogito wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:17 AM:

" I like her because she's better looking than Biden, probably has better speaking skills (he has foot and mouth), more experienced than Obama, And she just looks more vice-presidential. For me, especially the "vice" part. Just watch the women get all catty now about the only woman in this election. It's gonna be hilarious. I'm watching the women on the MSM tiptoe around the gender thing as we speak. Good stuff. "


If I was Cindy McCain, I would be watching my back. She is exactly McCain's type and the man has a history of switching to a younger mare in the middle of a race. "

Cogito wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:17 AM:

" I like her because she's better looking than Biden, probably has better speaking skills (he has foot and mouth), more experienced than Obama, And she just looks more vice-presidential. For me, especially the "vice" part. Just watch the women get all catty now about the only woman in this election. It's gonna be hilarious. I'm watching the women on the MSM tiptoe around the gender thing as we speak. Good stuff. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:02 AM:

" Actually, at first glance, she wouldn't be a terrible running mate if McCain hadn't mortgaged his entire campaign on the proposition that Obama was to inexperienced to be President.

I am really quite surprised that his handlers allowed this to happen. Straight out of the gate, this choice is a tremendous blow to the core message of the McCain Campaign. "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:53 AM:

" Her husband works for British Petroleum. Another OIL candidate. "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:51 AM:

" Leonard, she is pretty.

I am offended that people actually think women will vote for her, just because she is a woman. How ridiculous.

So I will follow their lead and say males will vote for her because she is hot. Makes sense to me.

Go McCain. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:47 AM:

" She sort of reminds me of Cindy McCain 20 years and 3 facelifts ago. "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:43 AM:

" I just heard on the news how she will pull in more women voters.

As a woman, I don't feel her pulling me back to my Republican Party. I have to wait and listen to her.

But for those Republican males over 40, I think she will woo their vote. Brains and great to look at. What more could they want? "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:11 AM:

" The White House is not kindergarten, Mr. Bocchi.

Surely, Ms Butler was not anticipating today's announcement when she wrote the above. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 7:53 AM:

" That sound you all just heard was John McCain shooting himself in the foot. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 7:52 AM:

" To be fair, Ms. Palin was also a city council woman in Wasila, Alaska.

POPULATION 5,700 "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 7:51 AM:

" A year and a half of experience running one of the least populous states in the Union and she is would be just a faltering heart beat away from the Presidency.

Obviously, experience is not as important as John McCain has been saying. "

sam wrote on Aug 29, 2008 7:44 AM:

" Miss Alaska runner up is McCain's VP choice. 44 year old Sarah Palin. Way to go John. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 7:38 AM:

" Gator: My last post sounds condescending. I didn't mean it that way. I guess that's what happens when you post before you've had your coffee.

Apologies

-LP "

Leonard wrote on Aug 29, 2008 7:09 AM:

" lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 6:57 AM:

" And just what did it take for Obama to "disassociate" himself from Wright and Ayers?


What did it take for McCain to disassociate himself from Charles Keating?

We are facing one of the greatest financial crisis in the last half century and the GOP is asking us to vote for a man who has a a history of of philandering with one of the most infamous white collar criminals in banking history.

How stupid do they think we are? "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 29, 2008 6:57 AM:

" And just what did it take for Obama to "disassociate" himself from Wright and Ayers? Only after nearly countless incidents during just those two debacles was he "forced" to distance himself from them. Yet even now how many people are really convinced that he has?

Again, no one knows anything about Obama - even after four days of attempting to introduce him as the Democrat Presidential Contender. It's difficult (if not actually impossible) to differentiate where true character ends and political expediency begins - if there is any difference at all. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Aug 29, 2008 6:26 AM:

" Well gee Cog, Obama has disassociated himself from the characters in his past as well. You can't have it both ways when you play amateur pundit. Try living up to your screen name. "

Cogito wrote on Aug 28, 2008 10:10 PM:

" Leonard, can you explain to me why the Democrats and John Kerry considered McCain for a Vice-Presidential slot on their ticket in 2004? "

Leonard wrote on Aug 28, 2008 8:41 PM:

" Seriously! wrote on Aug 28, 2008 7:59 PM:

I'll take a little experience over none, any time! So that leaves McCain.


McCain has decades of experience at making the wrong decisions. America can not afford four more years of the Bush Administrations disastrous policies. "

Cogito wrote on Aug 28, 2008 8:17 PM:

" Bob, seriously, the Bin Laden family OWNS part of Microsoft and Boeing, are you going to infer Bill Gates and Paul Allen guilty by association to Osama? "

Seriously! wrote on Aug 28, 2008 7:59 PM:

" Personally, I would love to have someone other than the choices we have. However, push comes to shove, especially with the current world crisis along with the threat of terrorist acts; I'll take a little experience over none, any time! So that leaves McCain. "

Cogito wrote on Aug 28, 2008 7:40 PM:

" Bob, back to this morning, the Bin Laden family had disassociated themselves from Osama long before 911. Would you hold the members of the Kennedy family who are not murderers and rapists responsible for those that are? That statement is pure ignorance. "

Gator wrote on Aug 28, 2008 5:51 PM:

" You know all this Obama/Mcain B/S going down, every one playing the one
upmanship is a crock. You tell me what is going to change???? Tonight
Charlie Gibson and Brian Ross gave the Low down on the Lobbyist at the
convention!! They paid for the whole ball of wax 58 million plus!!And
as soon as the convention is over the advance parties will head for
Minnesota and the Republicans. Joe Guz was right on the money. All of
the McCain/Obama is no good bull is like spitting in the wind and basically
the general public could care lessAmerica needs an intervention soon.. "

Gator wrote on Aug 28, 2008 4:03 PM:

" Wtf, I wonder about some one who searches dregs of the world media for dirt on McCain, he must have you worried. Check snopes.com they have
a good synopsis on McCain and his wife, though I doubt you will like it.
Your support of Ron Paul says volumes about youDiplomacy is one
thing, Chap stick, knee pads and Ky jelly is an otherAs for rock tossing
At Obama, Lets try William Ayers and crew,30,000 from Hamas, which
he said he returned(Not) A group of young men making block phone
Calls in the primaries from Palestine to Palestinians here to vote for Obama!! Tony Rezko, Mayor Richard Daily, you dont move in Chicago
Politics with out his blessing (Chicago Sun Times) Phone calls, CBS.ABC
NBC All have video clips from Palestine interviewing the young men "

Leonard wrote on Aug 28, 2008 12:58 PM:

" It is exactly McCain's experience that makes me want to vote for someone else. "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 28, 2008 12:51 PM:

" As long as Billy Mays and the Shamwow buy meet the minimum requirements as prescribed by the Constitution they are, in fact "qualified" to be the President of the United States. At least to some degree the voters would rather the winner have a little more behind the person who is handed the power and responsibility that comes with the office. "

Gator wrote on Aug 28, 2008 12:30 PM:

" I guess by the way some folks see this lack of any real qualifications then
Billy Mays or the Shamwow salesman could be our next President!!!
As for me I favor Billy May!! "

wtf wrote on Aug 28, 2008 12:11 PM:

" lodisafeway wrote: "Folks, it just keeps getting better and better for the Republicans."

What drugs you on? I want some! LOL! McCain is a LOSER and all the RAH, RAH, RAHing in the world won't help him.

Geez! He's a philanderer; Leonard mentioned the Keating Five makes me shudder for our economy - especially when McCain, himself, said during the primary debates the economy is not his strong point; his Dad covered up the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty; he's senile and diseased....oh, but he's a POW that's makes it all better. This gonad would be dead if it weren't for a certain Vietnamese gentleman who McCain blew off for SAVING HIS LIFE.

How war hero John McCain betrayed the Vietnamese peasant who saved his life

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-542277/How-war-hero-John-McCain-betrayed-Vietnamese-peasant-saved-life.html "

Leonard wrote on Aug 28, 2008 11:35 AM:

" One thing I have wondered about is the absence of any discussion of McCain's role in the Keating Savings and Loan Scandal.

One would think that his history of corruption with regards to the financial sector would make anyone question whether he was really the man to lead this country out of the current housing crisis. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 28, 2008 11:30 AM:

" wtf wrote on Aug 28, 2008 11:19 AM:

The way McCain drools over war, he'd probably be MAKING that 3:00 AM phone call on the red phone to start some sh*t.


LOL! I heard that the State Department had to take the red phone away from Bush for exactly that reason. Now he only gets to use it when he has Dick Cheney's permission.

Apparently Vlad Putin complained about all the calls at 3 AM requesting "extra pork rinds on the pizza". "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 28, 2008 11:27 AM:

" Obama - not a lot of baggage? Are you kidding? That's all he has is baggage. And none of it is any good.

Along with no experience and a lackluster performance as U.S. Senator over such a short period of time all we have to go on is his personal history. Included in that history are the myriad of "associations" that have only begun to reveal the true story of this man who would like to be the President of the United States. And now he's added Joe Biden to his list of great judgmental achievements - an old man with an enormous pile of baggage of his own to add to the heap of Obamas.

Folks, it just keeps getting better and better for the Republicans. "

wtf wrote on Aug 28, 2008 11:19 AM:

" I think the fact that Obama doesn't come with a lot of baggage is a good thing. The U.S. might head in a different, better, direction with a young person who can think outside of the box.

As for the 3:00 AM red phone call...from what I understand, Obama wants to exercise diplomacy...this would PREVENT **any** 3:00 AM phone call. Period. The way McCain drools over war, he'd probably be MAKING that 3:00 AM phone call on the red phone to start some sh*t. LOL!

As for POWs...

Both Men in the Photo were POWs; Does that qualify the one on the left to be President?

http://www.teambio.org/2008/08/27/being-a-pow-does-not-prepare-you-for-president/

When are pictures of POWs propaganda?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2883915.stm

But if **both** diplomacy and experience are wanted....then vote Ron Paul. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 28, 2008 10:58 AM:

" Gator wrote on Aug 28, 2008 10:30 AM:

" Leonard, is that the best you could come up with??


The old guy is running to a large extent on his personal honor. He made it an issue, not Obama.

The whole thing is just the flip side of McCain's POW story.

This woman stood loyally by her man through the years of his deployment and then captivity, only to be betrayed in the most contemptible way by him when he finally came home.

McCain's personal behavior as a POW was certainly honorable and as such deserves our commendation. His personal behavior when he returned, however, was contemptible and is equally worthy of our condemnation.

If a man is going to base much of his campaign on his personal honor, should not his markedly dishonorable behavior then be considered? "

Bob Loblaw wrote on Aug 28, 2008 10:43 AM:

" Well Gator, you've already got socialized education, police, and fire, so you're wrong there. Hopefully socialized medicine is on the way under President Obama. "

Gator wrote on Aug 28, 2008 10:31 AM:

" Well Bob it would be nice if the person had some kind of leadership background, you know how to make tuff decisions, how to delegate
authority, how to run a successful business, govern the second largest
State in the country. Command an Army. I will repeat one more time
Bob!!! Dont tell me what youre going to do, Tell me what youve done!!
he cant because he has NO Track record, turn off the teleprompter
he doesnt sound any better than BushWorst of all he is a 100% dyed
in the wool socialist and there is no place in this country for socialism
I dont care what color you are "

Gator wrote on Aug 28, 2008 10:30 AM:

" Leonard, is that the best you could come up with?? Some where I read that
about the only president that didnt fool around was Nixon, like who would
Want him!!! Now for people who have been given a pass, how about the Silk Pony Johnny boy Edwards?? The media swept that under the rug in
a hurry!!! "

Bob Loblaw wrote on Aug 28, 2008 10:08 AM:

" and Cogito, if you really want to go down that road, let's talk about Bush and his daddy's association with the bin Ladens. "

Bob Loblaw wrote on Aug 28, 2008 10:06 AM:

" Gator, how do all of these resume bullets make someone qualified for such a unique position?

My point is, the jobs someone has held before becoming president aren't a predictor of whether that person will be a good or bad president (which in itself is subjective and politically skewed). "

lodisafeway wrote on Aug 28, 2008 9:33 AM:

" When it comes to experience, lumping Kennedy in the list that you have Mr. Loblaw skews that picture just a tad. True, the only requirements for any citizen to assume the office of the Presidency are age and citizenship status. As such, there are no other prerequisites needed. But the average voter wants just a little more than that.

Kennedy, by all accounts was not a very good president. The Bay of Pigs revealed that he could very well have used a few presidential preparation courses before using his name and Mayor Daley's help to "win" in 1960.

You might want to research the reason why Kennedy was in Texas during that week in late November of 1963. In spite of having a Texan as his Vice President (who was chosen specifically to help him win his first presidential election, nothing more), Kennedy was in big political trouble in his quest for re-election in 1964. Camelot's moat was draining by that time exposing the weaknesses that were carefully covered up as Kennedy debated Nixon nearly four years prior. "Experience" was what the man desperately needed (along with luck) to keep him in the White House. "

Leonard wrote on Aug 28, 2008 8:05 AM:

" In my heart, John McCain has shown me that I can put my trust and faith

It sounds like Shelia has confused McCain with Jesus. Or her husband.

Actually, given McCain's history of philandering, probably not her husband. "

Cogito wrote on Aug 28, 2008 7:42 AM:

" Bob, you say "what makes a president great is the people he surrounds himself with-his advisers". I agree 100%. Just look at the people Obama has surrounded himself with in the past, that speaks for itself. "

Gator wrote on Aug 28, 2008 7:42 AM:

" Lets take the as you have them listed JFK Naval Officer, US Senator 1/3/53 to 12/22/60.Reagan 2 term Governor of the state of California which in
turn served as Commander of the California National Guard, President of
Screen actors guild union. Lincoln Refer to Lincoln rediscovered as Im
not a student of Lincoln. George Washington, Commander of the Continental Army!!! Barack Obama You tell me Bob????? No Hits, No Runs, No errors??? "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Aug 28, 2008 6:33 AM:

" This whole experience "argument" is so lame. Who has experience running a country before they actually do it? By this weak logic, I guess Kennedy, Reagan, Lincoln, Washington, etc, etc, should never have been elected. It's just inane. What makes a president great is the people he surrounds himself with - his advisers, his cabinet. It also helps to have a cooperative Congress. One man, alone, rarely makes a big difference. Think about it. "

Gator wrote on Aug 28, 2008 5:59 AM:

" Let me be the first here...For Obama,
Don't tell us what you're going to do,tell us what you've done!! "

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