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A pastor once said that when a man comes to know the Lord, even his dog and cat and farm animals will be the better for it.
It was William Jay who wrote that a person, when he comes to Christ, will be better in every relationship. He is a better husband, father, master, worker or friend than before, or else his religion is not genuine.
A missionary once said, "Do you hear one saying, 'I keep my religion to myself?' Well friend, you do not have to worry about it being stolen. You do not have to put it under lock and key. There is not enough of it to even tempt Satan to take it from you. A man who can keep his godliness to himself has so small a portion. I am afraid it will be of no credit to him, nor any blessing to anyone else."
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real facts wrote on Aug 23, 2008 4:54 PM:
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making sure i stick to the edict that befalls billy in his pick and choose / one scripture here, and one scripture there methodology of "interpreting" scripture, this is not a "stand alone" scripture for which to build a case against billy's evil. this scripture is in the same theme as HUNDREDS of scriptures that deal with unchecked evil against God outlined in the psalms and proverbs.
so you can either stand with billy, or you can stand for Gods righteousness. the penalty for billy allegiance.....being swept away "
real facts wrote on Aug 23, 2008 12:58 AM:
finally someone stood up "
real facts wrote on Aug 23, 2008 12:55 AM:
usually you shake the dust off of your feet on these issues. but this ones different. Christians have for a long time been bullied into a corner so "they" can define what's right.
to that end, i go the distance, and it is TOTALLY worth it "
philadelphia37 wrote on Aug 23, 2008 12:19 AM:
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 9:18 PM:
you didn't ask sam. sam posted in the other blog today, but her "input" here is strangely missing ivan. i wonder why that is ivan? since she thinks you are the cat's meow, maybe you can ask her why she is status interruptus.
remember how i handled your son leonard when he tried this garbage on me?
i NEVER let him off the hook for NOT walking thru a door HE opened either.
looks like you and i are "friends" now.
that is until you do what you are supposed to do.
i finish what i start, and now, i am going to make sure you do as well. "
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 9:01 PM:
for what? getting "married" doesn't validate a relationship, just look at the failure rate of heterosexual marriages, and those are the ones God DID design. plus, it ISN'T love, it's sex billy. sex that wasn't designed that way (square peg - round hole thingy). your friends are only destined for failure, once they realize that "marriage" won't justify what they do. nope, only confusion is the companion of those that fool themselves daily
gas is high billy. if i were you, which i will never be, i wouldn't go and waste your money. your just going to be reminded you can't father a daughter. then in despair, you will self medicate by passing yourself around, and then the vicious cycle repeats itself, then you will come back in here and try and take it out on God and the Christians (the real ones anyway). nope billy, your sickness is yours to own.....you can't inflict your daily choice driven misery out on "us".
square peg + round hole = no daughter for you "
Billy Rubin wrote on Aug 22, 2008 3:16 PM:
Anyway, Duane says he's going down tomorrow with Agador. They're stopping at Half Moon Bay on the way down and they'll see us there. "
Jaycee wrote on Aug 22, 2008 3:14 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Aug 22, 2008 3:12 PM:
Some people here would say she deserves to die now because the risks were becoming known. We're all just glad she can make it tomorrow. "
Billy Rubin wrote on Aug 22, 2008 3:08 PM:
Here's what we'll do: we'll take your Scion down tonight, hit Monterey tomorrow (yes the ceromony is tomorrow but it isn't until 8 - they wanted the sun setting). That will leave Sunday morning open we can hit some shops and get me back in time.
How's that?! And DON'T FORGET YOUR SUIT FOR THE WEDDING! NO T SHIRTS AND SHORTS!!
Twist an axle in that Scion, man. We're buring daylight. "
Jaycee wrote on Aug 22, 2008 2:47 PM:
Your Sunday will be safe... or not.
Wait let's do the jet ski thing today and then road trip it down to Monterey and crash the wedding. Is it tomorrow?
Party time. I can feel it. "
Jaycee wrote on Aug 22, 2008 2:43 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Aug 22, 2008 2:11 PM:
You tell Eric I'll be standing on the sidewalk with my thumb out! All he's gotta do is slow down as he goes by; I think I could do a standing vault off the curb right into the back of his jacked-up F150.
I'll try to get Duane, too, we'll see how it goes. But he's got friends in town and they're making a day trip of going to Monterey for David's and Michael's wedding. You know how Duane loves to jetski, but Michael and David have been waiting so, so long for this. The chemo has prolonged her life, but David's mother won't last much longer and she wants so badly to see their wedding - they don't have a lot of weekends left to choose from.
Will we be back early enough Sunday for our shift? Or should I take my bike? "
Jaycee wrote on Aug 22, 2008 2:02 PM:
Jaycee wrote on Aug 22, 2008 1:49 PM:
Can you call Duane? Jet skiing into the sunset. What a killer end to gorgeous friday. "
Billy Rubin wrote on Aug 22, 2008 1:34 PM:
He made promises. Oh, so many promises yesterday about how he was going to just trounce me. Pummel me.
And ya know what he did?
Nuthin. "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Aug 22, 2008 12:24 PM:
she didn't. she lied.
And why would we believe you? "
Billy Rubin wrote on Aug 22, 2008 12:20 PM:
"and i have WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more gas in the tank than you ever dreamed of."
Don't underestimate how much gas I think you have.
And, speaking of all your lies, remember when you actually said you "went down to the LNS offices"?
har!
Yeah, you said you WENT THERE, but later slipped in a pool of your own drool and said you sent an email! LOL.
Then you said you didn't lie because you "went there" electronically!
HAR HAR HAR
Oh, jeez. Religion has caused your insanity. "
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 12:10 PM:
that's code for your not man enough to walk thru a door that YOU opened.
she didn't. she lied.
man you make me glad that i passed down to my son that edict that no matter what, you step to the truth above people and circumstances. that you man up and handle your business, and you don't run away from ANYBODY or ANYTHING, and you own what you say and do, which includes not running away from something you start.
did you hand paint that same yellow stripe that runs the length of your back onto leonard?
finish what you started "
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 12:04 PM:
refer all your biblical questions to leonard and billy. they are the "bible experts". (laughing)
did you ever ask YOUR SON (leonard) if lying was a sin? because he so easily ran to it when he could no longer qualify his position. you NEVER ONCE chided your son in here when he DID lie.
honor isn't a sliding scale based around people ivan. your older. you would think a man of your age would have learned that by now. unless of course it didn't matter
given your family DNA, my guess is your going to dismiss it as some brain/chemical imbalance. therefore it is not a choice to lie, and you two are off the hook responisibilty wise for doing it so easily.
i dunno. i am NOT dr phil (but i am good at telling the truth about people)
NOW ASK HER "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Aug 22, 2008 12:03 PM:
You, on the other hand are, by your own admission, a proven liar. "
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 11:56 AM:
she never did answer how she slipped up in her description of who real_facts was. once i busted her on that issue, she left the building so she didn't HAVE TO answer that question.
i wanna see her lie about it, then i want to copy and paste the email that the LNS sent me where THEY said the know something was going on behind the scenes.
it happened on HER computer.
now, step to your word and lets do this.
i will be back in here later to check in and see where your family DNA dictated that you chickened right out of it.
honor. what a joke. if you HAD honor, you would walk thru a door that YOU opened "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Aug 22, 2008 11:50 AM:
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 11:49 AM:
now it's on. and i have WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more gas in the tank than you ever dreamed of. like my promise stated, if "they" don't keep your vulgar perversion in check, then it will be my honor to rake you all over these blogs for as long as it takes.
someone said something to me recently about what i do being "worth it". oh yeah. i won't sit and watch as unbridled/unchecked perversion perverts God without a conscience. nope, i have had enough, and YOUR mine.
you think you talk trash about Christianity and get away with it, your in denial. the kind that insures you and i are "friends".
you either keep your disrepectful trash to yourself, or we will take this as far as you want, as long as you want.
i am fired up, and i have my track shoes on......BRING IT
i guarantee it 560% "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Aug 22, 2008 11:40 AM:
I don't see any point in asking them to repeat their statement given the fact that you have already demonstrated that you lack the honor necessary to keep your word. "
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 11:38 AM:
can't stand and defend your position, so you have to stick your fingers in your ears and pretend "it" goes away.
like i said, it runs in the family.
do you have hit and run liability insurance? because some day, the "truth cop" is going to catch you "speeding", and your going to get a FAT "ticket".
one that you won't be able to talk your way out of "court".
next time ivan, don't bring a "knife" to a "gunfight" (truth/intellectually speaking)
good day "
Billy Rubin wrote on Aug 22, 2008 11:37 AM:
Oh, no you don't.
I am the reason you're back here and you said so.
Sam can rustle up her own ghoul to haunt the blogs.
You are mine - all mine. "
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 11:31 AM:
in the meantime ivan, since you trumpeted your a barometer of character, let's see you walk thru the door that YOU kicked open. make it happen. don't pull your chicken hit-and-run garbage when you yourself judged me. now it's time to demonstrate what kind of man you really are.
ask her. and don't think for a minute that just because this blog ends, this liitle "fun in the sun" you started ends here. oh no, now that you challenged my integrity by lying about it, it's game on, and i will make sure you have this boat anchor around your neck until YOU cut it loose.
can you tell i am a scosh bit weary of people giving billy a free pass, but i am the "bad guy"?
nope. not no more. you guys don't keep him in check, and you step to me about my position, it's on.
you want peace in here, you will either be equitable about what goes on in here, or-be-responsible-for-me-having-to-defend-against-it. EVERYDAY
i guarantee it 549% "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Aug 22, 2008 11:23 AM:
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 11:19 AM:
sam is the reason i AM back in here, and now YOUR the one that's lying, because your defense against me is weak, and now you resort to lying because you have noting left. funny, that was the last resort of leonard when he couldn't bring it.
you just opened a huge can of worms. now sam will either be silent, and hope the wind blows this away, OR she will attempt to lie and cover herself, something NO ONE can get away with considering my "talents" of seperating people from their words.
ask her ivan, or are you going to be like your son leonard and skate away when challenged?
i am up for the truth. how about you?
ASK HER "
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 11:05 AM:
" Well, you guys have resurrected RealFacts. I wonder if we'll be seeing Richard McIntyre next? (Whatever did happen to him?) ").
since i have this tendancy to tell the truth about people, richard mcintyre isn't exactly the "peaceful muslim" he claimed to be. since no one else had the guts to expose his anti-american stance, i did.
the guy is a terrorist "symphathizer". so my guess, is his darkened heart has come full circle, and seeing opportunity staring at him in the face, he is probably living in pakistan
"studying".
mark my words, there are alot of peaceful muslims that are good people in lodi, but there are also alot of "them".....and they are patient (if you catch my drift).
i should know, i talk to them at my job and ask them side-door questions to see where they are at, and they spill it without realizing it. i am good at bringing to the surface what people REALLY believe. it's what i do... "
Ivan Dixon wrote on Aug 22, 2008 11:03 AM:
With that fact now in mind, there does not seem to be much of a point in you continuing to post here since everyone reading your words will regard them as the out put of a proven and admitted liar.
Good day. "
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 10:54 AM:
like your son, your a hit and run artist at best. men of character that start the battle, finish what they started.
not you though. ever since that day, you have been hittin and runnin ever since.
your a "character barometer" (laughing) "
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 10:47 AM:
" I, for one, do not appreciate being lied to... ").
good. then you can address the billy situation for him lying about who we are, and twisting biblical scripture into "go have sex with your own daughter".
ok robb, are you a "pillar of truth"? or is your "truth detector" only people specific?
what say you now robb? "
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 10:42 AM:
listen, if you don't like the simlarities that YOU passed on to leonard, is that my fault? you wanted to play with me in here, so i was merely putting you in your place for attempting it. if you lie about my intent, you WILL pay the price for trying it. if you don't like it, don't address me, because one thing i am is succint and straight to the point about who people are/aren't.
as far as "estimating character", i am none the least bit concerned about your "ability" to determine character, when you yourself have to resort to lying about others, just because you disagree with them, and you want them to "go away".
you would have demonstrated personal character if after the first time you played your chicken hit-and-run act, and stuck around to debate me. YOU DIDN'T
you-don't-have-a-clue-what-character-is "
Robb wrote on Aug 22, 2008 10:36 AM:
JD wrote on Aug 22, 2008 10:36 AM:
Ivan Dixon wrote on Aug 22, 2008 7:59 AM:
You made a promise and you broke that promise.
That, good sir, has defined you. "
real facts wrote on Aug 22, 2008 7:35 AM:
what-true-Christian-supports-and-confirms-evil-against-God-himself?
i know you know the answer to that question.
anyway mike, hope all is well. if i were you, i wouldn't stick around too long. billy the pillar of all that's right in the world will tell you to have sex with your daughter, like he did me. he's still a pervert "
mike wrote on Aug 22, 2008 4:52 AM:
And also, for those inclined, I recommend reading William Jays' Short Discourses to be Read in Families(it can be googled n read) "
real facts wrote on Aug 21, 2008 10:15 PM:
if your lucky, maybe one day you will make him mad, and then he will tell your husband to go have sex with your daughter. because afterall, the bible you claim to "love" says it, right?
billy can't control anything about himself. the ONLY chance he has in here is YOU people keeping him in check. if you refuse, then you get me riding you and billy all over the ring everyday.
respect is a two way street. you demand it of me, and say NOTHING to him. i am willing to "play nice". however, if billy continues his perversion, and you don't attempt to keep him in check, you know what happens "
real facts wrote on Aug 21, 2008 10:01 PM:
the answer is an easy no.
the science AND the physical design say absolutely not.
the "science advocates" are in it to win it, in the game of anything goes as they seek to exclude God out of the design, for self autonomy purposes.
if God did design homosexual sex, he would have high fived it. he didn't.
or voter (or anybody), you can show the design proponents just ONE scripture that qualifies your position of homosexal sex as "Gods design".
just one. no one can ever provide even one "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:55 PM:
Okay, now I'm done. "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:51 PM:
real facts wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:51 PM:
" Thanks, Rhodie. A good discussion for the night. Maybe more later. RF kills the possibility of any thoughtful discourse").
"sometimes", because i have business to take care of, so these blogs disintegrate when i have to.
your a hypocrite voter..... for always blaiming me when you give your buddy billy a free pass because as YOU stated, "it takes a real man to adjust to truth despite his world view" (or something like that). billy says the most vile untrue crap, and you high five him.
tonight, i made "thoughtful discourse" on the homosexual issue by offering a respectful but strong countering view. you can't blame me because your too afraid to engage in debate with me about the subject matter.
i told you. you blame me for your failures, i will take you to task for it "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:48 PM:
When I took a sociology class in college they talked about a study that linked snow cones to violent behaviors back in the 70's. It was published in all the right papers and conferances were given on how the sugar and chemicals in the syrup caused this behavior. And it wasn't until a couple of years later when some critical thinker said, "don't they sell more snow cones when it is hot out?" It turns out the scientifically accepted explination missed a simple explination, people get cranky when it's hot.
When it's comes to the science of homosexuallity I don't know if it is right or not (I'll know when I die), I'm just asking, "don't they sell more when it's hot out."
Then again "Baaaa" "
real facts wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:43 PM:
that's not true. trumped up by justification "scientists" bent ON justifying an anything-goes-behavior. "they" have attempted to do the same thing in other behavioral arenas, including heterosexual sex (people prone to not sticking to one mate), alchoholism as if it is "genetic", etc. in an attempt at excluding personal responsibility.
nope, all choices. creation design stipulates and defines design. if that defintion falls outside stated design, it's false science.
if there is a God, science cohoberrates(sp) Gods design. it doesn't seek to change it just because it doesn't like it, and wants to do whatever it wants.
besides, even a common sense approach dictates i take my cues from God. i WILL be standing before HIM someday, not some "scientist" who wants to redefine what God has already defined.
you cannot re-define what God has already defined. you can try, but you can't "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:41 PM:
First is I love Angel. You know, from Buffy the Vampire Slayer and then his own series. He is the epidomy of living above your wrongs. A vampire who always has the urge to kill but his soul gives him the strength to over come it and use it to be stronger. That kind of inner strength should be a lesson for all of us. It is not what we are that defines us but what we do with it. "
voter wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:40 PM:
real facts wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:30 PM:
are you proud that you fostered into your son leonard that same hit and run/refuse to answer mentality?
you must be. you share the same "honorable" assets 548%
well, i think we have established that you aren't exactly the pillar of picking the truth of life.
tree, apple. apple, tree. rotten apple at the base of the tree. good job ivan "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:30 PM:
My first girlfriend dated two guys (one before me and one after) that let her know at the end of their relationship they were gay. She said she'd kill me if I ever called her and said I was gay (jokingly) because then everyone of her boyfriends before her husband would have been gay. "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:27 PM:
2 Corinthians 12: 8 Three different times I begged the Lord to take it away. 9 Each time he said, My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness. So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me. 10 Thats why I take pleasure in my weaknesses, and in the insults, hardships, persecutions, and troubles that I suffer for Christ. For when I am weak, then I am strong."
It is this passage that guides me to say even though I think Homosexuality is a sin, if you are still acting in a way that brings honor to God, still living in a way that says you love him, yourself and your neighbor then I consider you superior to (or having risen above) your sin, that is better than. And in that case I hope we share a big feast in Heaven in the future. "
real facts wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:21 PM:
in every arena of life God determines the definition(s). no matter what you call it, it isn't "love", because HE didn't call it love
otherwise you all that argue that it is, have some explaining to do when an adult male says he "loves" little boys sexually.
you don't draw the line in the sand and define what is love.....God does (and he did) "
voter wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:20 PM:
voter wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:18 PM:
voter wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:16 PM:
sam wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:16 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:14 PM:
No but let's go back the the story of how I met her. The girl I was madly in love with wanted to be a nun. I thought it was wrong of me take her away from that calling so for the five year I knew her I was her friend but never dated her. I refused to let what I wanted to rule what I thought was right.
We all control our impulses to do what we know is wrong. We don't cut in line when people have been waiting longer than us because it is wrong but it is what we want. "
real facts wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:13 PM:
You act like it was MY idea, rev").
it WAS your idea, because you purposefully perverted the text even after rhodie explained it's historocity.
it's what you are.....taking something pure, and perverting it intentionally.
now when you were caught in your perverted "leap" of interpretation, now your back peddling on the "if it was sexual".
no billy. you can't bring us into the sewer were you modulate "
voter wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:11 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:06 PM:
sam wrote on Aug 21, 2008 9:01 PM:
If I came up to you and told you it was a sin to love your wife, you honestly can say you would walk away from her? "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:58 PM:
How about more biological: Cholesterol is bad, oh wait now there is good and bad cholesterol. Fat is bad, no only this kind of fat is bad. Science says eat no carbs for a healthy life style, of didn't that doctor die of heart problems stemming from his scientific diet? One study says kids who act up in school need to be drugged, another study says no place them in a low stimulant enviroment. Phychology says telling you child no hurts their self esteem, wait, now you have to set boundries.
See, I am as sceptical of science with it's continuing parade of "oops we were wrong on that" issues as you are on a collection or rules that has guided societies for 3000+ years "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:49 PM:
" Rhodie,
Saying that homosexual sex is wrong or against God DOES stigmatize gays. How is it possible that you do not see this? And for what?"
Sorry Voter, I wasn't ignoring your posts, there's just so much I think I'm only saying half of what I want to.
I believe in free will. I believe God gave us the ability to choose right from wrong. I am predisposed twords anger. In the 10th grade I shattered my hand out of frustration with something that was in reality, stupid. I'm sure that if you compared my brain makeup with some badies in jail we'd share a lot of commonalities. I choose to control that side of my personality. To be blunt my sex drive still thinks I'm 18, my wife's is considerably lower. Do I act on what my biology is telling me to do? No, because my body is not my boss. Am I the one living the lie? No, I choose to live above my instincts. "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:41 PM:
voter wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:41 PM:
voter wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:35 PM:
Saying that homosexual sex is wrong or against God DOES stigmatize gays. How is it possible that you do not see this? And for what? A few verses in an ancient text based on erroneous assumptions? Could it just be that the thought of gay sex repulses you, so therefore you look for reinforcement that it is "bad"?
I am not questioning your spirituality, which is universal throughout all cultural customs, only your dogma. "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:34 PM:
sam wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:29 PM:
I do however respect your beliefs. AND I do love your religious views and your love of God. Your blogs are refreshing to read. I thank you for sharing.
God Bless You. "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:24 PM:
Somewhere in here I tried to get the opposing side to list some of the things they found deviated from their moral compass but I never saw that listing. "
sam wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:19 PM:
I agree. I AGREE 100%. Thank you Rhodie for sharing. "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:18 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:10 PM:
So which laws do we follow. Jesus gave us only one and it was an easy one. Love God, Love self and Love neighbor. After this all the other laws fall into place. This is the only test I have as to who I call a brother or sister in Christ. "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:07 PM:
So which laws do you follow and which ones don't you? That is for you and your religious leaders to decided. I Catholic school in the 90's it was explained to us by the Bishop that most of the laws written in the old Testimant were written as a way to establish, build and continue the Hebrew Culture which was based on a belief in God. So you say they built their culture on selling thier daughters off for sex. No, as I stated many times, they sold their daughters off so they would have rights and be protected by the Hebrew Laws. Hebrew women of the day could file complaints about their husbands and the husbands, if found guilty, could be beaten, jailed, fined or even sold into slavery themselves. "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:00 PM:
So for those who are interested, and the fuel for all the debate here, do I think homosexuals will get into Heaven? Well, I don't know, what else have they done in their life? Do they believe in Jesus or is their life based on loving good, loving self and loving neighbor? I'd rather go to heaven with a million homosexuals who are joyful to the Lord that one fellow Catholic who is bitter and wears their faith like a burden.
Billy, you keep wanting me to take the Bible in a bit by bit explination. It can't be done. It is a singular work and must be taken as a singular work. "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 7:52 PM:
So when I say I believe in the Bible, it is not an abstract concept. It is something I believe in because I have felt the power that inspired it working in my life.
So what is the Bible? It is the living word of God. While some have twisted and distorted parts and bits, it is still the word of God. There are many versions of the Bible from King James to New American to whatever else you think of, even Klingon. These are different pronounciations of the same living Word. Is it "creek" or "Crik"? It is still the same thing no matter how you say it. "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 7:45 PM:
Over two years I had more than 40 dreams with the same person, always PG rated. The last one was on a retreat in December just a month before the two years was up. I was giving her a shoulder rub. "
Rhodie wrote on Aug 21, 2008 7:40 PM:
sam wrote on Aug 21, 2008 7:08 PM:
sam wrote on Aug 21, 2008 6:56 PM:
He looks just like Lord Voldemort. I kid you not. Youtube him... He is a dead ringer for him. I thought you might find that interesting.
Maybe a Patronious Charm would be in order. "
sam wrote on Aug 21, 2008 6:37 PM:
I am asking you to share any knowledge you have. This is not a test, nor is it a game.
I have never been able to understand who gets to pick what is God's Law. I thought you said you were Catholic. I remember when eating meat on Friday was a sin. Now it is not. I remember when Sunday was the Lord's Day. Now going to church on Saturday is ok instead.
What gives man the right to mess with the WORD of God?? "
sam wrote on Aug 21, 2008 6:31 PM:
When one uses Leviticus to condem homosexuality, why can I not condemn football for handling pigskin. (Now heaven forbid, because I am the BIGGEST football fan ever.)
That is one thing no one has been able to explain to me logically. I also have to say that went to the University of Santa Clara, a Jesuit Catholic college. "
sam wrote on Aug 21, 2008 6:26 PM:
Billy Rubin wrote on Aug 21, 2008 5:33 PM:
(applause) "
Billy Rubin wrote on Aug 21, 2008 5:31 PM:
Attempting to sound believable while insisting that the bible doesn't actually say those things is something else altogether. Claiming they must be interpreted is a curious spin; it implies the word of the bible is not absolute.
The person who claims the bible doesn't say those violent things loses all credibility and when it is said that passages are either to be ignored or interpreted so as to change their meaning, it reduces the entile biblical work to suspect status or as merely mythological literature.
It's true or it's not.
It isn't stew.
It is being used as an excuse to oppress, subjugate and sometimes KILL people.
When the bible says certain people must put to death, is the bible wrong?
Going back to one of your earliest posts here, what other biblical texts should be ignored? "
voter wrote on Aug 21, 2008 5:09 PM: