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Binders are a hindrance


Thursday, August 7, 2008 5:32 AM PDT

The new binder policy for Lodi High is flawed and ineffective.

For a large number of students, the mandatory use of a single behemoth binder is becoming a hindrance. Although the intention for this course of action is understood, I, along with many peers, know the policy has done little for those it intended to help: the unorganized percent of our student body.

For many organized students, this policy will obstruct an already efficient system of organization. Right now, scores of crisp, new white binders lay in campus trash cans — a testament to those unwilling to follow the newly established rule. Although not the best course of action for irate students to follow, it shows the protest given by a large number of students.

However, there are still quite a few students who find the new binder tolerable, and for some, this free binder may be welcomed as a helpful system of organization; but not all share such contentment. I fear for those who have been using their own systems effectively for years; being forced to change personal organization styles will make us less organized and efficient. We belong to a school that preaches non-discrimination and an embrace of all learning styles, so why does that same school force us into one method of organizing?

We are not trying to challenge the school's authority; we only want a system that works for us. Many of us are rather flexible when it comes to changes, but with change like this, it is quite difficult to adjust — especially when the change is not the best of ideas to begin with. As any student can attest, these large three-ring binders are difficult to keep organized and are known to break under pressure — say the pressure of six periods of homework, quizzes, tests and notes all crammed into its slim, skinny, aluminum rings. More so, we are expected to divide this binder into not only six categories for our periods, but further divide those divisions into more divisions for the specifications of our individual teachers. These binders are cumbersome and don't fit into backpacks.

The student body speaks and respectfully asks for a better system or even better, a choice. I will proudly carry this opinion every day to school; that is, if I have any room to carry it.

Brendan Pinder
Lodi

Reader Feedback

Jess wrote on Aug 11, 2008 3:07 PM:

" Edumacation, nice. "

edumacation wrote on Aug 11, 2008 11:56 AM:

" 1) Who go the contract for the binders?

2) Is the seller related to anyone in the LUSD?

3) I hope its not a GOB binder deal? "

WY wrote on Aug 10, 2008 5:07 PM:

" bindergate... bahahah "

dyan wrote on Aug 9, 2008 10:33 AM:

" Girard: You are right. They were mandatory until the whole thing blew up in fearless leader's face. "

dyan wrote on Aug 9, 2008 10:31 AM:

" Another example of failed top-down management. Waste $15,000 on binders kids don't want or will use, demand eveyone use them and then ask the teachers: "What do you think?" "

mainframe wrote on Aug 8, 2008 9:38 PM:

" crashcup, You must not be a taxpayer. "

crashcup wrote on Aug 8, 2008 7:40 PM:

" Much ado about relatively nothing. Kids complain about binders, but they're organized. That's a life skill. It's easy to sit back and take pot shots at a system that's charged with ensuring all kids succeed. Grouse if you must, but no matter how ill-conceived you may believe it to be, Lodi High School is not alone in this effort. It is a time-proven effective strategy. So, to borrow from Lodi High School's Student Government T-shirts: "Lead, follow, or get out of the way!" "

Lodian wrote on Aug 8, 2008 11:57 AM:

" It looks like all is well after "Bindergate". :-) "

Lodian wrote on Aug 8, 2008 11:56 AM:

" girard asked "...was this memo sent to all the parents merely a way to diffuse the controversy?"

I'd say, "YES"! It seems like backpedaling doesn't it? Kinda saving face after a failed plan. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 8, 2008 11:53 AM:

" girard: I believe the binders started out to be mandatory. That was the initial information given to the students. The mandatory binder deal changed quickly when it did not go over very well with quite a number of students and staff. My student thinks it's good news that the binders are no longer mandatory. "

girard74 wrote on Aug 8, 2008 11:24 AM:

" Lodian - so I'm wondering - was this memo sent to all the parents merely a way to diffuse the controversy? Or could the kids just not have fully understood the enforcement policy. My daughter indicated to me that she thought that its use was mandatory; and my experience through her nearly 17 years with me dictates that I believe her.

Curious. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 11:05 PM:

" girard: Some teachers have decided that they want the kids to use the binders and some teachers don't mind if the kids use their own form of organization. "

girard74 wrote on Aug 7, 2008 7:24 PM:

" Now just how cool is this?!? I received a letter today (Dated August 1st) from the Principal of Lodi High School (it is actually a form letter) explaining the purpose for the three-ring binder. Buried not too deep in the memo was the announcement that the binders are not 'required' to be used by the students.

I wonder if this controversy could have been avoided had this information been conveyed to the student body prior to distribution of the binders. Since I do not know for certain whether or not such instructions were announced at the school, I think I'm going to side with the school on this one (until proven otherwise) because after considering the matter a little more I cannot imagine how they could have actually forced anyone to use the binders.

No matter who 'dropped the ball' in this little episode, the fact remains that there were too many students who opted to behave in a most immature fashion by throwing their binders in the trash rather than just hand them back and say, 'No thank you.' "

Cogito wrote on Aug 7, 2008 6:18 PM:

" Brendan, first of all, thank you for restoring my faith in our public schools ability to turn out a student that can write well. But, when I was in school, I had one of those Huge binders with the 3" rings in it. It was my dads college binder from Penn State. I could keep every classes work in the thing, you could use Pee Chees to separate your classes ( they fit right in), and, best of all, I could strap ithat big ol' dude on the rack of my Schwinn Varsity. Give it a chance, you may love it. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 5:58 PM:

" Crashcup: Is it wise to toss thousands of life preservers into the water for just few people. As a result the people that really need the help can be lost in the massive "over-kill" of effort in trying to save them.

Seriously, a "binderless" kid is not going to die. After all, binders can easily be available just for the asking. This really isn't that hard. "

Crashcup wrote on Aug 7, 2008 4:49 PM:

" For the critics: You ask schools to improve student achievement, then criticize the efforts they take to do so. Is it proper, therefore, for a drowning person to protest the color of the life preserver that is thrown to him? "

Zinfandel wrote on Aug 7, 2008 4:28 PM:

" works best . . . "

Zinfandel wrote on Aug 7, 2008 4:08 PM:

" Like I said in my original post. . .each student should decide what works before for them. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 3:31 PM:

" Zin: FYI, I had more than one binder and I went to high school the same years as you. I guess you didn't count all of us. LOL "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 3:29 PM:

" Zin wrote "When I attended high school all the students had only one binder and the system worked well."

Zin: Now that you have shared what year, and where, you went to high school would you like to amend your statement regarding "ALL" the students?

Okay, I know you were stretching the truth to make your case/point, but let's be realistic here and stay in the present, not back in the day. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 3:26 PM:

" zinfandel wrote on Aug 7, 2008 3:20 PM:
"Lodian, since you seem to be so interested in my life..."

LOL! Funny stuff. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 3:25 PM:

" girard: I learned that there is no penalty for not using the binder. Maybe there are some teachers that will, or have, made it a requirement (IDK). Like I already said, of course the binders shouldn't be thrown away. That should be obvious to most, but the admin at a high school should realize that this was bound to happen and then proceed with another way of distributing the binders. Most of us do not want to see money wasted especially when it comes to the schools. They don't have enough money for the students as it is, so why waste it? "

zinfandel wrote on Aug 7, 2008 3:20 PM:

" Lodian, since you seem to be so interested in my life, I'll satisfy you this one time. Attended high school in Lodi and graduated in the late 70's.
The one binder system was more common in those days then it is now. There may have been some students back then who had several...the majority in the OLD days had one.
How many high school students were attending then. I am not sure, but, I am positive not as many as attend our local high schools now.
P.S. Glad to hear that your "knickers are not in a twist" LOL "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 3:13 PM:

" Zin: I'm curious... where did you go to high school? How many students attended your high school at the time? "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 3:10 PM:

" Zin wrote "Each student should decide what works best for them."

I agree.

Oh, and you couldn't get my knickers in a twist if you tried. LOL "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 3:04 PM:

" midtowner: Please point out where I rationalized bad behavior? And I did not "flip flop" on my opinion. If the mere suggestion that you reread my post, so you can be clear on what was said, bothers you so much then perhaps you should not debate any issues on these blogs. Sorry you are having trouble. "

midtowner wrote on Aug 7, 2008 1:31 PM:

" Lodian: no need to reread your post. You continue to rationalize bad behavior and it is despicable. Maybe you should reread your posts as you have a tendency to flip flop or talk in circles. Example: Lodian wrote: "but I could have told you immediately, upon knowing of this binder idea, that a lot of these binders would end up in the garbage can" and "The binders were not totally a bad idea"

Trite: yes "

zinfandel wrote on Aug 7, 2008 1:16 PM:

" Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:01 AM:

" Zinfandel wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:09 AM:
"I personally think that one binder is more practical and takes up less room in a backpack. When I attended high school all the students had only one binder and the system worked well."

Lodian, if you had taken the time to read the rest of post you would have seen that I said the following:
Each student should decide what works best for them.

Next time read the complete post before you get your knickers in such a twist! "

girard74 wrote on Aug 7, 2008 12:49 PM:

" Lodian wrote, 'In acknowledging this fact we should allow them to make some of their own organizational choices, especially when they have a system that has worked for them for many years.'

I wonder then what the penalty is for any student not using this school-provided binder. How will this affect their lives at Lodi High School?

Rather than chuck them into the garbage (which is indicative of an incredible lack of respect), they should have simply continued to utilize whatever organizational tool(s) that they see fit. Their parents (including me) should sit down with our children and discuss the matter to arrive at a well-thought out decision. If then they decide that not using the binder is worth whatever penalty that may follow, allow the system to take its course. At 13 or 18 (or any age), people need to understand that there are consequences for our choices. When they come, this is when their characters become revealed in the way that they handle those consequences. Surely this should be part of the 'educational' portion of going to school, wouldn't you think? "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 12:26 PM:

" ...it's not like these kids are all in the same class and have the same teacher, skills, abilities and mind! "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 12:24 PM:

" girard: You're right. Some of these kids are close to adulthood. In acknowledging this fact we should allow them to make some of their own organizational choices, especially when they have a system that has worked for them for many years. I really have to wonder how much thought went into this binder distribution idea. It was a good idea on the surface, but one needs to be realistic about distributing thousands of binders to create one system of organization for ALL. I have my way of organizing myself and I'm sure you have your way. I'll bet we make different choices in how we go about organization. Just think of thousands of different people and making them all fit into one box...well, binder. I do not see how that would ever work. "

girard74 wrote on Aug 7, 2008 12:12 PM:

" Lodian - as children then, this is why they do not get to make certain decisions (yet). The majority of the students at Lodi High are not 13-years-old; in fact a large number are significantly less than a year from becoming full-fledged adults. Playtime is nearly at an so they need to begin to take certain aspects of their lives (including their futures) just a bit more seriously.

By the way, I DID listen to what Brendan had to say; I simply responded to what I believe to be flaws in his thinking processes. In case there are those who don't realize it, this forum exists solely to discuss what is published in the LNS. It is not designed to act as a child/senior-care service nor a platform for others to spew forth their vitriol and hatred. In the spirit of debate, Brenden needs to understand that very soon people will not simply sit back, read his words and nod their heads in unanimous agreement. I suggest that if he (or anyone else) expects this to be the case this letter would have been better off published in the school newspaper. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 12:11 PM:

" trite; hackneyed or boring from much use : not fresh or original

Nope, doesn't apply. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 12:08 PM:

" midtowner: Your comprehension seems shallow. Reread my post again as I never said, nor implied, that throwing away a binder should be "excused". Your tax dollars were wasted due to bad choices by the adults. That's where it started. I expect more from the adults that decide where to spend our money and run our schools. The binders were not totally a bad idea. They just didn't think it through. "

midtowner wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:34 AM:

" Lodian: it's people like you who want to excuse these punks' behavior because they are "immature" and live in a "throw away society". I know there are other instances of tax payers money being wasted, but we are on the binder topic. By the way, your know-it-all attitude or could-have-told-you-that mentality is trite. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:31 AM:

" This generic "One size fits all" for personal organization is for the birds. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:26 AM:

" P.S. to Zin and midtowner... your tax dollars are being wasted in a lot more dramatic ways than the purchase of school binders. Just wanted to put it into perspective. :-) "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:23 AM:

" midtowner wrote "One thing that irritates me to no end is the little punks who threw away their binders. That is my tax money which is being trashed and, frankly, it ticks me off!"

midtowner: In that case I think you should address your concerns toward the administration as they spent the money. I do not run a high school full of thousands of children, but I could have told you immediately, upon knowing of this binder idea, that a lot of these binders would end up in the garbage can. It's unfortunate, but true. Let's be more careful on how the money is spent. Think before spending. Remember, a lot of these kids are being raised in a "throw-a-way" society that most of America has created. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:16 AM:

" girard: Brendan looks to have formed his own opinion as he is a student at Lodi High and saw the reaction, to the binders, first hand. I think he is well qualified to speak on the issue. Plus, most students at this point (especially the upper classman) are already set up in the way of organization and can quickly and easily address this topic. So, lets listen to what Brendan has to share with us.

You said, in reference to the kids that threw away binders, that "This smacks of innate immaturity". Well, of course it does! They are immature! LOL! Some of these kids are 13 years old for Gods sake. They are kids. They should not have thrown the binders away (obviously), but lets not be shocked when learning they dumped the binders. This could be corrected by NOT handing out binders to all students and allowing the students that want a binder to stop by and pick one up. Easy, huh? That would save money too! The administration needed to think this through a little more.

I say make these binders available, but not mandatory, for organization. "

Lodian wrote on Aug 7, 2008 10:01 AM:

" Zinfandel wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:09 AM:
"I personally think that one binder is more practical and takes up less room in a backpack. When I attended high school all the students had only one binder and the system worked well."

Zin: You "personally" think the binder is more practical. Well, that's just it! It's a personal decision on how to keep oneself organized. The binder idea was a nice ides, but not thoroughly thought out. And you cannot tell us that when you went to high school "...all the students had only one binder...". That's just ridiculous, unless you went to a school with only 5 people and you counted the binders. :-) Lodi High has thousands of students and there is no "one way" for everyone when it comes to organization. "

Zinfandel wrote on Aug 7, 2008 9:09 AM:

" I personally think that one binder is more practical and takes up less room in a backpack.
When I attended high school all the students had only one binder and the system worked well.
Each student should decide what works best for them. And if they decide that they do not want to use the binders provided to them, then turn them into the office so that others may use them. Throwing them away is a waste of tax payers hard earned money! "

girard74 wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:52 AM:

" I wonder just how you know this, Brendan. It has been a scant week and a half since school has been back in session. How has this data been compiled so quickly and with such acute accuracy?

Moreover, what does it really say about those students who toss an item of at least some intrinsic value into the trash simply because they don't 'like' what the school has attempted to do 'for' them? This smacks of innate immaturity that needs to be corrected quickly.

Also, were you actually chosen to speak for the entire student body as you seem to suggest in your last paragraph? My own daughter hadn't mentioned that there have been any special elections held since the start of school. Speaking for all students seems rather bold.

Finally, I marvel at the notion that the distribution and expectation of use of these binders is in any way discriminatory toward anyone. Its downright silly. "

midtowner wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:23 AM:

" Brendan: this is a very well written letter and you have obviously benefitted from the English classes you have taken at LHS. However, in the real world we are asked to do things that we don't necessarily want to do or feel that are beneficial to us. Someday you will look back and reflect on this matter. My daughter has few problems with the binder, in fact, she likes the organization method; although, it is bulky.

One thing that irritates me to no end is the little punks who threw away their binders. That is my tax money which is being trashed and, frankly, it ticks me off! "

sam wrote on Aug 7, 2008 8:19 AM:

" Brendan, great letter.

Everyone has different organizational methods that work for them. I can understand Lodi High trying help it's students discover and develop their own personal organizational skills, but to mandate one method for all is wrong.

Keep speaking out, Brendan. I hope your voice will be heard. "

Bulldog wrote on Aug 7, 2008 7:36 AM:

" Excellent Brendan. Well written, to the point. This letter makes me proud of the quality of student who can write so well.

Don't let the establishment at LHS beat you down on this. You have articulated a valid complaint in a respectful manner. They should listen, and you should not back down. "

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