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Wal-Mart, Lodi officials still talking; Supercenter's future unclear
Talks are continuing between Wal-Mart and the city of Lodi. It's just not clear what they'll lead to, if anything.
Representatives from both sides confirmed Friday they've had recent discussions about the proposed and long-delayed 226,000-square-foot Supercenter.
A lack of information about the project has caused residents, business leaders and even some city officials in recent months to wonder about its future.
The project was scheduled this spring for a review by the Lodi Planning Commission. Unexplained delays, however, have pushed that vote and an eventual City Council vote back indefinitely.
If approved, the retail and grocery complex would anchor the 13-store Lodi Shopping Center at Kettleman Lane and Lower Sacramento Road. It would be one of the Lodi's largest-ever commercial centers.
Wal-Mart spokesman Aaron Rios said his company has not put the Supercenter plans on hold. It is, however, reassessing higher construction costs for the project and continuing to negotiate with the city about several conditions that will be required for approval, he said.
He declined to say how much it will cost to build the Supercenter.
"We're not dormant ... we have a genuine interest in Lodi and we're doing everything we can to make this work," Rios said.
Despite the recent talks, which took place between Lodi City Manager Blair King and Rios this week, there is still no timeline for a City Council vote on the Supercenter.
Net sales for Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
Wal-Mart reported in May that net sales reached $94.1 billion for the first quarter of the 2009 fiscal year, up 10.2 percent from the same period last year. That covered February, March and April of this year.Net sales for May and June were also up. They spiked 7.8 percent and 10.1 percent, respectively.
A company press release reported the following: "We're off to a solid start, with record first quarter sales and earnings," said Lee Scott, Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. president and chief executive officer. "We continue to deliver against the business model that Sam Walton started — selling branded merchandise for less. Our business is even more relevant to our customers today, given the current economic pressures."
Source: Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
The council's February 2005 approval of the project was overturned 10 months later by a San Joaquin County Superior Court Judge, who ruled environmental reports for the project were insufficient.
King stressed that city conditions are not standing in the way of the project. Based on his talks with Wal-Mart officials, he said company expansion plans — not factors in Lodi — will determine whether the project goes forward.
"It's a corporate decision based upon profitability," he said. "That's what I understand the issue to be."
A look at Wal-Mart's recent economic numbers shows the retail giant has thrived of late.
The company reported in May that net sales reached $94.1 billion for the first quarter of the 2009 fiscal year, up 10.2 percent from the same period last year.
That trend is reflected in Lodi, where sales at the existing Wal-Mart are "exceeding expectations," Rios said.
A trend that hasn't been so positive for the company is the string of delays for proposed Supercenters across California.
Rios, who represents the Central Valley for the company, noted he is no longer speaking with several cities because their Supercenter plans are on hold indefinitely. He declined to name those cities.
Stockton land-use attorney Steve Herum noted earlier this month that Supercenters in Clovis, Chico and Selma have experienced similar delays as the Lodi project.
Herum filed the 2005 lawsuit that eventually negated the Lodi Supercenter's approval. He represented a group called Lodi First.
Plans for a 132,000-square-foot Wal-Mart in Galt are moving forward, Rios noted. That project, proposed for Twin Cities Road at Fermoy Way, is undergoing an environmental review.
It's expected to be up for a vote by late this year or early 2009.
When it does, however, it won't be without controversy.
Several Galt City Council members and potential neighbors of the store have complained the Wal-Mart will literally back up to the Emerald Village Senior Community, creating unwanted noise and traffic issues.
King, the Lodi city manager, said the city's conditions for approval have not changed in recent years. Officials have long maintained that Wal-Mart must compensate Lodi for the Supercenter's future draw on business Downtown. They've also insisted the project's developer, Darryl Browman, find a tenant for the existing Wal-Mart or pay for the demolition of that building.
Additionally, the city has required the project compensate for the loss of agricultural land that will be paved over during construction.
Negotiations regarding those conditions are ongoing, Rios said, and do factor into the company's decision-making.
Lodi spokesman Jeff Hood said the city does have a "tentative" version of the final environmental report for the project. He said, however, that without a clear indication from Wal-Mart on whether the company will go forward with the project, it has decided not to release the documents to the public.
"We're waiting for Wal-Mart," Hood said.
Contact reporter Chris Nichols at chrisn@lodinews.com.

Reader Feedback
ccinlodi wrote on Aug 5, 2008 4:40 PM:
ccinlodi wrote on Aug 5, 2008 4:21 PM:
patton1 wrote on Aug 4, 2008 4:31 PM:
ccinlodi wrote on Aug 4, 2008 11:46 AM:
ccinlodi wrote on Aug 4, 2008 11:43 AM:
rePatton1 Aug 1 9:19 remarks - were those directed to me?? anyway... I am not a fan of residential growth in Lodi. we need businesses that will provide liveable wages, not pollute our land and will actually pay taxes - so forget those mega centers and what all..
there must be some available properties that a wine barrel or glass mfgr could be enticed to move into... "
patton1 wrote on Aug 4, 2008 10:03 AM:
Observer wrote on Aug 2, 2008 10:50 AM:
T&C wrote on Aug 2, 2008 9:09 AM:
observer, here's a little info about your planned growth and your developer buddies. Where is the acreage they agreed to buy and preserve?
Lodi is annexed as far as it can go south now without interfering with Stockton and their developer< Mr. Spanos. I don't think any of you Lodi wannabes will want to be butting heads with either of those entities. "
T&C wrote on Aug 2, 2008 8:51 AM:
T&C wrote on Aug 2, 2008 8:47 AM:
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Observer wrote on Aug 2, 2008 5:40 AM:
Cogito wrote on Aug 1, 2008 10:54 PM:
T&C wrote on Aug 1, 2008 9:36 PM:
patton1 wrote on Aug 1, 2008 9:19 PM:
Observer wrote on Aug 1, 2008 5:13 PM:
Observer wrote on Aug 1, 2008 5:11 PM:
ccinlodi wrote on Aug 1, 2008 3:37 PM:
Observer - not all roads should lead to Rome... Lodi needs to protect the greenbelt and annex whatever properties available that are on the other side. And "hello woodbridge- Welcome to lodi.."sure areas within our city limits will be unincorporated county, but they would still be under our control. Why are we so politely letting that 300 pound gorilla (stockton) push its limits and yet not learning from the experience? We can do it better. "
T&C wrote on Aug 1, 2008 2:27 PM:
Observer wrote on Aug 1, 2008 1:11 PM:
patton1 wrote on Aug 1, 2008 9:44 AM:
T&C wrote on Aug 1, 2008 8:27 AM:
Observer wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:59 AM:
ccinlodi wrote on Aug 1, 2008 7:42 AM:
Let's not go that route.. we need some role models for growth - I like Los Gatos.. Moraga... Folsom .I like Folsom it was wise enough to attract business at the same time it was touting itself as a great place to live.. any thoughts fellow lodians? "
T&C wrote on Jul 31, 2008 1:25 PM:
Observer wrote on Jul 31, 2008 11:03 AM:
T&C wrote on Jul 31, 2008 8:15 AM:
commonsense1 wrote on Jul 30, 2008 5:21 PM:
Rhodie wrote on Jul 30, 2008 4:11 PM:
P.S. I did a search for the Schlotzsky's after I wrote to see where the closest one is. The nearest one is over 200 miles away. Maybe it's a good thing they aren't here, I'd blow all my fun money eating there. "
ccinlodi wrote on Jul 30, 2008 12:28 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jul 30, 2008 11:33 AM:
Observer wrote on Jul 29, 2008 6:53 PM:
Observer wrote on Jul 29, 2008 6:52 PM:
t&c wrote on Jul 29, 2008 5:28 PM:
t&c wrote on Jul 29, 2008 5:25 PM:
Observer wrote on Jul 29, 2008 4:11 PM:
ccinlodi wrote on Jul 29, 2008 2:51 PM:
What is important is this: Jeff Hood your july 28 10:08 post - You say there was a brief phone conversation - is that what the newspaper is reporting as 'recent talks this week' ? If that is so, I hope the city will have the paper print a clarification - the matter is becoming byzantine. No need to add another layer to the complexity. My vote is this: Lodi needs to forget Walmart and find something else. "
Mrs. S. wrote on Jul 28, 2008 6:25 PM:
My experience has been similar to yours. I've visited Wal-Mart SuperCenters in Nevada and the Midwest, and they are much nicer than the stores around here.
In this area, Target is the most pleasant place to shop and still save some money. The Lodi Wal-Mart is a dump. "
Rhodie wrote on Jul 28, 2008 4:23 PM:
That said, I rarely go in the current Walmart because it seems grungy. The only reason I go in is if I know they have something I can't find elsewhere. I much prefer the Target, it is just a brighter store.
IF Walmart leaves it's current location I would love to see something like Michaels, Borders or (If only I had the capital) a family fun center with small movie theater, arcade, food, in-door mini-golf and such. Do you think an arena for battling robots would be too much?
I do hope that a good coffee stand goes into the new development so we can shut down a couple more Starbucks. Oh, you know what I just thought would be good there? A Schlotzsky's Delicatessen. Serious, check them out. It was one of the points against us moving down here cause I can't get them locally. "
Rhodie wrote on Jul 28, 2008 4:08 PM:
Wrapping it up I promise. Cont. "
Rhodie wrote on Jul 28, 2008 3:57 PM:
I'll answer this one. The supercenter I shopped at up in Oregon had a great selection of what I was looking for including lobster once for our aniversery. Their deli counter prices were better than the name brands or at least the same cost. Basically if I needed it it was there at one store.
My grocery shopping history is this: I started at a place called Fred Meyers which is much like a Walmart supercenter but the costs were way higher. I moved on to Safeway and Albertsons, had to shop both because one was cheaper for somethings, the other for the others. Both though you had to pay attention for the sales to get decent deals. Moved on to a Food 4 Less type place but it was hit or miss for quality from the produce and meat sections. Cont. "
T&C wrote on Jul 28, 2008 2:16 PM:
Jeff Hood wrote on Jul 28, 2008 10:08 AM:
Lodian wrote on Jul 28, 2008 12:31 AM:
lilsweets68 wrote on Jul 27, 2008 10:37 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jul 27, 2008 2:26 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jul 27, 2008 2:23 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jul 27, 2008 2:23 PM:
dogs4you: Then I suppose we can both agree that the "few" teens you speak of downdown are not one of Lodi's big problems. "
Lodian wrote on Jul 27, 2008 2:21 PM:
dogs4you: Again, I ask... Why do you say that Wal-Mart may be dirty due to the people that shop there?
And why are you being nasty? Did I offend you? If so, how?
Also, I never said I shopped at Safeway rather than the Wal-Mart mall area. Where did you come up with that one? I really don't understand your hostility. Please explain. "
dogs4you wrote on Jul 27, 2008 12:31 PM:
Lodian wrote on Jul 27, 2008 12:51 AM:
Also, in my opinion, when a store looks not to have high respect for cleanliness and safety it tends to invite people of the same attitude. "
Lodian wrote on Jul 27, 2008 12:45 AM:
Well, I disagree with you about the kids being the big problem downtown. Ever hear about all the goings on at the bars and the after hours thugs. These aren't the kids that go to the Movie Theater. "
Lodian wrote on Jul 27, 2008 12:41 AM:
Lodian wrote on Jul 27, 2008 12:39 AM:
Dogs4you: I used to frequent the area more than I do now. I would stop in at Hollywood Video, Applebees, Strings and the hubby likes Radio Shack. I sort of avoid the area now, not totally, but most of the time.
Dogs4you wrote, Could it be that the store is dirty due to the people that shop there?
Dogs4you: What do you mean? Please explain. "
T&C wrote on Jul 26, 2008 11:14 PM:
dogs4you wrote on Jul 26, 2008 6:43 PM:
Eileen St Yves wrote on Jul 26, 2008 6:22 PM:
Cogito wrote on Jul 26, 2008 4:34 PM:
wtf wrote on Jul 26, 2008 2:34 PM:
Mrs. S. wrote on Jul 26, 2008 1:36 PM:
I want to get some cheap school supplies for my daughter, but I don't want to set foot in Lodi's Wal-Mart. Even Stockton's SuperCenter is dirty and unkempt. The nearest Wal-Mart that's somewhat presentable is in Jackson. I shop there when I visit that town sometimes. "
Mrs. S. wrote on Jul 26, 2008 1:33 PM:
Your comment started off speaking to the topic, but then you digressed into a rant against Bush and the death penalty. You might want to find an article about Bush and/or the death penalty and post those comments there. Stay on-topic. "
Lodian wrote on Jul 26, 2008 12:35 PM:
Observer wrote on Jul 26, 2008 11:46 AM:
wtf wrote on Jul 26, 2008 11:46 AM:
http://www.jibjab.com/originals/big_box_mart
And if you think "Made in America" is any better, think again. Because, yes Virginia, there are prison industries.
http://www.wpi.edu/News/TechNews/010327/prisonlabor.shtml
http://www.unicor.gov/index.cfm?navlocation=FPIOpportunities
They even do trading.
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2001/09/06/029045.html
But isn't it good all the bad guys are locked up? Well, in this case, a LOT of the guys locked up are non-violent offenders (this does not involve gang bangers - great job, LPD!).
I mean, Georgie Jr., who occupies the White House, is known for killing more people through the death penalty than anyone around...BUT get this! The ONE person Bush granted clemency to when he was governator of Texas was a SERIAL KILLER.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Lee_Lucas "
Observer wrote on Jul 26, 2008 11:45 AM:
T&C wrote on Jul 26, 2008 10:37 AM:
T & C wrote on Jul 26, 2008 9:22 AM:
judy wrote on Jul 26, 2008 9:13 AM:
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