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A Californian makes positive move to Idaho


Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:49 AM PDT

I recently moved to Northern Idaho after residing in Stockton for 35 years. For 30 of those years I worked as a parole agent for the California Youth Authority.

When I arrived to Northern Idaho, I was amazed to find that nearly all residents of this state were at one time California residents. The more that I inquired as to why they moved from California to Idaho, the more similar the responses were. Escape liberal politics of California as well as California's high taxes, the state of California's highest crime rates, poor uncontrolled schools and ultra-liberal courts. Many mentioned that California now resembled a third- world country.

Many of the new residents of Idaho are former California law enforcement and fire employees who have retired and desire a better life for their families. In Northern Idaho, they find a place that offers family values, openness and friendship, as well as a caring, giving community, similar to rural California in the 1950s and 60s. These values are what attracted our parents' generation to Lodi and Stockton and the lack of these values are driving subsequent generations away from central California and from California as a whole.

I was heavily involved in the Stockton community as a little league coach for 26 years, member of Quail Lakes Baptist church, trustee of the Lodi Unified School board for 12 years, member of the Stockton Parks and Recreation commission for six years, president of my local labor union for 20 years, etc.

An example of the differences in values was evident on the Fourth of July. Coeur d' Alene had a massive downtown parade. Thousands of residents lined the streets celebrating the birth of our country. Later that night, thousands more watched a great fireworks show. Similar festivities are held Memorial Day, Labor Day and Thanksgiving or holiday season.

I recall last year the largest Stockton celebration was Cinco De Mayo. How sad!

I encourage all decent, honest residents of Lodi and Stockton to consider a move to Northern Idaho. It was a huge challenge for this sixth-generation California resident to relocate, but one that I sincerely have not regretted.

Contact me at weaver.bobrox@wildblue.net for more reasons to consider a move to Northern Idaho.

Bob Weaver
Idaho

Reader Feedback

Lodian wrote on Jul 18, 2008 12:12 AM:

" No matter where you live you need to be concerned about gangs. "

Cogito wrote on Jul 17, 2008 11:27 PM:

" You don't have to go to Idaho to find a town swimming in meth and meth addicts, you're living in one! "

Gator wrote on Jul 17, 2008 8:30 PM:

" essayjay Hmmmm that has an ethnic ring to it, is that why your so bloody worried about Skin heads? lets see you covered Idaho, Sacramento, Ohio
and your point is? You want Skin head type or should I say those of the
Aryan persuasion try your own back yard, say the Oakland Chapter of the
Hells Angles!!! Our main problem is an invasion of illegals from below
the border, now that is a problem "

essayjay wrote on Jul 17, 2008 6:37 PM:

" Authorities have searched several northern Idaho locations for the body of a neo-Nazi skinhead who may be a murder victim, a newspaper reported today.

The missing man is John Cox, 25, from Sacramento. He was an associate of former federal fugitives Chevie and Cheyne Kehoe, who were arrested last month on charges of shooting at Ohio law-enforcement officers, The Spokesman-Review reported.

The shootings were videotaped and widely shown on television.

The searches near the Idaho towns of Priest River and Sandpoint were fruitless. They were prompted by information developed by the FBI and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms after the Kehoe brothers were arrested, the newspaper reported, quoting unnamed sources.

One of the searches was conducted near where the body of another missing skinhead, Jeremy Scott, 24, of Sandpoint, Idaho, was found last August. Faron Lovelace, an escaped Wisconsin bank robber, has been charged with first-degree murder after leading police to Scott's remains.

Cheyne Kehoe surrendered in Colville June 16 and provided the FBI with information that led to the arrest of his brother in Utah. "

Rhodie wrote on Jul 16, 2008 11:32 PM:

" Next couple of months wifey has a business trip to Idaho. Probably wrap it into a visit with her folks as well.

My In-laws were sayin' they had snow as late as the beginning of June. Just over night and gone by 8 and two days later it was 80 degrees.

I'll have to be back for the holidays this year. Can't decide on flying or driving. Hmmm, 18 hours in the car with three kids or $1000+ to fly. Why can't we do this by webcam? "

Gator wrote on Jul 16, 2008 8:54 PM:

" Lodian I have the flying fingers under control :-E) Rhodie Yeah Boise Airport is in a semi bowl. Our temp range last year was high 109 and
or low -2 right now its 9:57 and temp is 88 "

Rhodie wrote on Jul 16, 2008 4:38 PM:

" I left Bakersfield for five years of college in Idaho. Loved the fresh air, rolling hills and the lack of people up there (I was in the north). Loved the snow and the cold, but I have always been hotblooded being one of those nuts who wears tee-shirts until it's in the thirties. Really loved that you could go ten minutes and hit forest for fifty miles. Wife (grew up there) misses watching the wind blow over the tall wheat at sunset.

We keep getting told we moved the wrong direction Oregon to Ca) but we wanted more sunshine than rain, a pool rather than floods and a good job transfer.

Gator, Isn't the Boise Airport kind of like flying into a big bowl? Mountians all around and a valley to land in. I keep thinking it was Boise I flew through that one time on my way to Moscow. Nothing like leaving LAX at 68 degrees and landing in a back stix airport at 12 degrees. Ah Winter. "

Lodian wrote on Jul 16, 2008 3:10 PM:

" Gator: I'll let it pass, this time. Just pay attention, will ya? "

Gator wrote on Jul 16, 2008 2:35 PM:

" Lodian, well excuuuussssseeee me for
the oversite correction noted!! "

Lodian wrote on Jul 16, 2008 1:55 PM:

" I'm not surprised that Brian is missing the point, again. "

Lodian wrote on Jul 16, 2008 1:55 PM:

" Gator (8:01 AM): I never asked about, or spoke of, Nazis. You are addressing the wrong person with your comments. "

essayjay wrote on Jul 16, 2008 12:33 PM:

" Mr. Weaver,

Check out Idahogangs.com

Enjoy your forest, your winters, clean air and right wings ideologies. You can even find a gang to join in your new wonderland. "

essayjay wrote on Jul 16, 2008 12:17 PM:

" Startling facts about meth in Idaho from the 2007 Idaho Meth Survey

38% of 12 to 24 year olds in Idaho report that meth would be somewhat easy to get.
69% of Idaho parents believe it would be somewhat easy for their child to get meth.
14% of Idaho teens say someone has offered them meth.
17% of Idaho teens have a family member who have been treated for meth.
36% of Idaho teens have never discussed meth with their parents.

Enjoy your Stay in Idaho Mr. Weaver, Don't Forget your rose Colored Glasses, We won't miss you in Lodi. "

voter wrote on Jul 16, 2008 10:53 AM:

" I was introduced to Taco John's in Boise. Ketchup on the tacos and tater tots rolled in all the burritos. "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Jul 16, 2008 8:25 AM:

" What people are missing in all of this is Idaho's spectacular night life. When I think back on some of the nights I have spent clubbing in Boise, well nothing I've seen in New York, Paris or London could ever rival it. "

Gator wrote on Jul 16, 2008 8:20 AM:

" Lodian,
Did I ever say Idaho didnt have any problems?? I think you will find the
Answer is no!! Yes we do but not to the extent some folks have stated
here and before when Idaho came up. Simple I spent 17 years in Lodi,
being born and raised in California I have seen the evolution of the
State in to something I want no part of. I miss the north coast more than
anything, I believe I said I couldnt stand being a flat Lander. so to
trade what I have now for what is back there, sure when pigs fly and
Hell freezes over "

Brian wrote on Jul 16, 2008 8:07 AM:

" Leonard, I doubt if anyone is implying Idaho is a utopia.

Anyway, it's refreshing to hear from you that you don't have the utopian mindset of the typical liberal. There is hope for you afterall. :) "

Brian wrote on Jul 16, 2008 8:01 AM:

" Leonard, you do relish putting a negative spin on things. You entitled to do that. And we are entitled to protest the negative spin you put on things.

I suspect Gator is very aware of the Nazi problem in Idaho. But you'll continue to twist his words anyway.
It's your style.

I have family in the Boise area. I find Idaho a very warm and friendly state. "

Gator wrote on Jul 16, 2008 8:01 AM:

" Lodian,
Yes I have a problem with Nazis, No Idaho is not over run with them, and
Weaver was not a Nazi, a little over the top as far as religion goes but Nazi
not hardly. But you like to fact check so you say well here is a link to the
Whole story, kind of has a Waco ring to it

http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/cops_others/randy_weaver/1.html "

Leonard wrote on Jul 16, 2008 7:54 AM:

" Brian wrote on Jul 16, 2008 7:51 AM:

If you find me a state that doesn't have it's own set of problems let me know.


My point exactly. The idea that Idaho is some sort of utopian exception is what I was taking issue with. "

Brian wrote on Jul 16, 2008 7:51 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Jul 16, 2008 3:37 AM:

" Gator: I am confused. Are you saying that Idaho doesn't have a Nazi problem or are you just saying that you don't have a problem with Nazi's? "

Leonard, you do like to rock the boat.
Have you ever been to Idaho?

If you find me a state that doesn't have it's own set of problems let me know.

That said, shall we investigate all the problems in Texas and then ask you why you moved there? "

Leonard wrote on Jul 16, 2008 3:37 AM:

" Gator: I am confused. Are you saying that Idaho doesn't have a Nazi problem or are you just saying that you don't have a problem with Nazi's? "

Gator wrote on Jul 15, 2008 7:08 PM:

" Lodian,
No my friend I didnt direct my little rant at you, there are some on this
post and a previous one that brought up skin heads and of course good
Old Randy Weaver. Boise is ranked in the top 25 places to live. so I just
made a point didnt mean to step on your toes. The gang problem speaks
for its self. Just look at the mentality and of course where they come
From, that says it all "

Lodian wrote on Jul 15, 2008 3:09 PM:

" ....The bottom line, and my point, is that gangs are everywhere. We need to be aware of this fact. I don't think we can run from them. We have to face reality. "

Lodian wrote on Jul 15, 2008 3:09 PM:

" Gator: It seems you may have miss a lot of what has been said here. I see that you got off on a defensive note for some reason. If one is happy with their situation they shouldn't get all fired up and defensive when others question, or have questions, about their comments.

Anyway, I never "put the knock
on the Gentleman because he Moved to Idaho and thought it was the
right move for him". I questioned that Nampa Idaho had a low gang problem as I had done some research. THAT is what I was discussing.

I enjoy learning about other areas. I have family all over this country and some would like it if we were to relocate closer to them. I don't have a problem with people being very happy in their new state. That's great! In fact, I want to hear all about it. I am not so dedicated to living in California that I would never consider a move to another state.

continued... "

Gator wrote on Jul 15, 2008 2:11 PM:

" Lodian,
Some how I knew youd put your 2 cents in. The only reason I even bothered to post is the B/S that some people saw fit to put the knock
on the Gentleman because he Moved to Idaho and thought it was the
right move for him, like it was for me. The stuff they put on the post
and the insinuations of what life is like here are shallow at best and
that is being kind. Then some Idiot Brings up Randy Weaver! Why?
Weaver was set up buy our lovely government then his wife and
14 year old son were killed by the above mentioned government. I
Find it kind of funny that the only folks that have a problem with
People like Weaver are the Liberal wing of said Government, funny,
Not!! I never said there werent any gangs here, they are few and far
Between and most of all the dont flaunt it, they know better!! "

Lodian wrote on Jul 15, 2008 12:38 PM:

" Ya got that right, Leonard.

It seems that Giovanina thinks that "bankruptcy, high crime, political corruption and balkanization" does not exist anywhere except Lodi, California. LOL! Is she/he is a mental institution? ;-) "

Leonard wrote on Jul 15, 2008 11:39 AM:

" Don't you know? A Socialist is anyone who disagrees with Giovanino. "

Lodian wrote on Jul 15, 2008 11:25 AM:

" Giovanina: I'm curious... why do you consider me a socialist? "

Lodian wrote on Jul 15, 2008 11:22 AM:

" Giovanina: Is that all ya got, hon? LOL! You sound like another blogger around here that starts in with the personal attacks when "he" has nothing else in his little AZ head. :-) "

Leonard wrote on Jul 15, 2008 11:19 AM:

" Giovanino: Are there any posters on these blogs that you do not consider to be socialists? "

Lodian wrote on Jul 15, 2008 11:17 AM:

" gator: The point was/is that there are gangs everywhere, whether you want to admit it or not. If you think you have escaped gang issues in your state then you must live on the moon. Yep, even your "red" state has gangs. Remove those blinders. Gangs are a reality in this entire country. "

Leonard wrote on Jul 15, 2008 11:12 AM:

" Giovanina wrote on Jul 15, 2008 9:41 AM:

I came here legally


Sure you did. :)

As I said before, I am in no way interested in bringing Homeland Security down on your head. There is no need to discuss your immigration status. I have no desire to see you deported.

I am curious to know, however, where you came from. As a native American I think I have a right to know who we are letting into this country. Obviously, in your case, we made a mistake and knowing the nature of the mistake would help insure that it is not repeated in the future. "

Giovanina wrote on Jul 15, 2008 9:50 AM:

" ElBOmbero wrote on Jul 14, 2008 9:00 AM:

" Let these right-wing nutjobs move to Idaho. They're just a drain on society. Roll on liberal California! "

Roll on to bankruptcy, high crime, political corruption, balkanization.

It is already so bad that even Liberal Lodi Leonard ran away. "

Giovanina wrote on Jul 15, 2008 9:48 AM:

" Leonard wrote on Jul 14, 2008 1:07 PM:

" To be fair, I don't know for sure that Giovanino was deported from his homeland. I am only guessing, based on what we have seen on these blogs.

LOL, If this is your idea of guessing, I hope now one ever asks you to really think about something...LOL And please don't try to become an investigator, you will only embarass yourself.

But since you think like Lodian, I have one question. How long have you been a woman, Leonard? Is this the real reason you went to Texas? or was it to escape ICE? Please do tell. "

Giovanina wrote on Jul 15, 2008 9:41 AM:

" To our in house Socialists, Leonard and Lodian, oh I think you two are the same person. I was not expelled from any country. I came here legally. What about your families? What country were they expelled from? Do tell? Leonard, when did you get expelled from Lodi? Was it that ICE was getting too close? Someone reported your illegal laborers? You must have plenty of them in Texas, now, you should be happy. At least, until someone reports you to ICE. "

Gator wrote on Jul 15, 2008 7:28 AM:

" Damn this is hard to pass up, lots of comments from people who dont live
here, all I can say is thank you and keep on believing what you see and
hear. Please stay away. Lots of comments about gangs and a reference
to Nampa gangs, funny I saw Caldwells water tower and some retard
who couldnt spell cat if you gave him the C and the T. Some how the
person who made the suggestion to look on u-tube must have missed
The video of the Woodbridge/Southside Gangsters!!! Give it a play you
Just might know some one. I could tap dance around the race issue but facts
are facts. I knew a member of the Gang task force of the LPD and like
he said Lodi is full of gangs. And look what is just nine miles away, the
fine city of Stockton, no gang activity there. The San Joaquin valley is not
only the foreclosure Capital of the US it is where most of the Meth is
cooked and packaged for sale in the west. So all things considered I
Believe I will stay right here in still Red state Idaho. "

lodi reader wrote on Jul 14, 2008 2:52 PM:

" Mr. Weaver,
Congrats! So...when will this "paradise" in Idaho turn into another California? Or is it just a different form of California- rich, white, liberal, and still discriminatory! "

Lodian wrote on Jul 14, 2008 1:26 PM:

" voter: I doubt Giovanina will answer or address the query at all. "

Leonard wrote on Jul 14, 2008 1:07 PM:

" To be fair, I don't know for sure that Giovanino was deported from his homeland. I am only guessing, based on what we have seen on these blogs. "

voter wrote on Jul 14, 2008 12:26 PM:

" Waiting on the edge of my seat for the answer to this one. "

Lodian wrote on Jul 14, 2008 12:19 PM:

" Giovanina: Wow! Were you really expelled from a country? Do tell! "

Leonard wrote on Jul 14, 2008 9:27 AM:

" Giovanino: So, are you ever going to tell us from which country you were expelled? "

ElBOmbero wrote on Jul 14, 2008 9:00 AM:

" Let these right-wing nutjobs move to Idaho. They're just a drain on society. Roll on liberal California! "

Giovanina wrote on Jul 14, 2008 8:58 AM:

" educated reader wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:09 AM:

" Giovanina(o): Lou Dobbs? Please! He is the biggest racist on cable TV (aside from Glenn Beck (an "evil" Mormon") Even conservatives are distancing themselves from his rhetoric.

Sorry but we can tell your ranting the talking points of the OBL, ISO and answer.org crowd. In fact, the numbers are growing. Many Demoncats are re-registering as Independents, and you left wing talking heads are going beserk. I love it.

Lou Dobbs is not a racist. His wife is a Latina.

Your low education is really showing. I am sure that you don't go outside unless you have checked in with your Che follwer network. "

wtf wrote on Jul 14, 2008 8:02 AM:

" I must be a lot older than the other posters. One of the first things I thought of when I read Mr. Weaver's letter, was what happened to another Mr. Weaver when he moved to Idaho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge

That alone would make me choose another state if I left California. "

Leonard wrote on Jul 13, 2008 7:13 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:45 PM:
" Leonard try http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2005/12/69804. Then read http://pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/etc/updmexico.html. I think both of these articles bolster my position on these matters. "


Thanks C. I had no idea. "

Lodian wrote on Jul 13, 2008 3:26 PM:

" Have you seen these sites...

Idaho Gangs (YouTube): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF__WPjaA1U

www.IdahoGangs.com

State Senator's website: http://crapo.senate.gov/media/newsreleases/release_full.cfm?id=266079

Please, let's not pretend there is not a huge problem in this entire country when it comes to gangs. "

Cogito wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:45 PM:

" Leonard try http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2005/12/69804. Then read http://pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/etc/updmexico.html. I think both of these articles bolster my position on these matters. "

Leonard wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:21 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Jul 13, 2008 11:53 AM:
" I meant the Patriot Act has been a big roadblock, curtailing their distribution.

How so?
"

Cogito wrote on Jul 13, 2008 11:53 AM:

" I meant the Patriot Act has been a big roadblock, curtailing their distribution. "

Cogito wrote on Jul 13, 2008 10:42 AM:

" Also Leonard, domestic production of meth is way down due to the inability to obtain the necessary precursor chemicals. The Patriot Act has been a big roadblock in curtailing their distribution. The chemicals are now largely obtained from Asian sources, mostly China, then brought over our borders from Mexico and Canada. But Mexican gangs have found it just as easy to bring the finished product. "

Cogito wrote on Jul 13, 2008 10:35 AM:

" Leonard, I'm sure you're right, but read the articles by The News Tribune of Tacoma, The Washington Post, PBS' Frontline, and the Christian Science Monitor. There you'll find the deep and growing problem of meth coming to the U.S. from Mexican superlabs that produce as much as 100 pounds a day. The police chief of Merced says that 80% of his meth production arrests are Mexican illegals. "

Leonard wrote on Jul 13, 2008 10:16 AM:

" Latino's no doubt do trade in crystal meth today but if you were to raid a couple of labs I bet you would still find a fair number of guys with swastikas tattooed on their arms.

No matter how you cut it, the Nazis have played a major role the speed industry for decades. "

Cogito wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:45 AM:

" Educated reader, Google "meth trade" and read the first article that pops up. Then you'll be a little more educated. "

Cogito wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:24 AM:

" yes I did, at 12:16 "

educated reader wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:21 AM:

" Cogito: You didn't answer my question about Meth! "

educated reader wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:20 AM:

" Cogito: Ha ha! My grandparents were of British decent and lived in a town dominated by Scandinavians. They were consistently denigrated by their Scandinavian neighbors - they were given "humorous" nicknames by those wonderful "Squareheads" and their children were harassed in school. What a great country we live in - things never change - just the "target" group that is disliked! "

Cogito wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:16 AM:

" I saw it recently on a news magazine show. And without getting into too much personal history, I have first hand knowledge. "

Cogito wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:14 AM:

" Educated reader, the state of California alone spends more than 4 BILLION a year taking care of illegal aliens. They are a HUGE financial drain on taxpayer related resources. Look it up! "

educated reader wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:13 AM:

" Cogito: What evidence do you have to support your claim of the Meth trade being taken over by Latino gangs? Meth is a white trash drug - I've never seen a single news report about Latinos and Meth. Please provide your "evidence." "

Cogito wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:10 AM:

" And Leonard, don't get me wrong, I don't condone any gang related activities. I just think that myself, being of British and Scandinavian ancestry, that I would be less likely singled out by a white gang. "

educated reader wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:09 AM:

" Giovanina(o): Lou Dobbs? Please! He is the biggest racist on cable TV (aside from Glenn Beck (an "evil" Mormon") Even conservatives are distancing themselves from his rhetoric. He is widely viewed as an "alarmist" on immigration issues. Move to Idaho, Please! Giovanina(o)! Yes, he practices the "politics of fear" and consistently points to "the other" to alarm white conservatives to his "cause." What is his cause exactly? According to Lou Dobbs the US population should all consist of Lou Dobbs clones (i.e., white, Anglo Saxons). What exactly are you afraid of? What benefits are you being denied due to illegal aliens? Just how much are your annual Federal income taxes and what percentage do you think you paying for illegal alien benefits? Not much, I'm sure! "

Cogito wrote on Jul 13, 2008 12:01 AM:

" Ahhhhhh Bob, you paint a beautiful picture, as long as those bikinis are being worn by women.......beautiful women. "

Cogito wrote on Jul 12, 2008 11:57 PM:

" No Leonard, the meth trade on the west coast was founded and originally controlled by the Hells Angels, and has recently been taken over by Latino gangs, mostly Mexican nationals. "

Bob Hussein Loblaw wrote on Jul 12, 2008 11:10 PM:

" It is hard to think of a good rebuttal to this letter because I'm distracted by the crashing waves, white sand and many bikinis all around me... "

Leonard wrote on Jul 12, 2008 10:00 PM:

" Cogito wrote on Jul 12, 2008 6:40 PM:
" And I'll take the neo-nazis over the minority run gangs any day.


Seems to me a gang is a gang. The Nazi prison gangs founded the meth trade on the West Coast. What a beautiful world they've created.

(Brian, in case you are reading this, that was sarcasm, just so that we are clear. I don't really think that the Nazi prison gangs have created a beautiful world. Just so that we are clear...) "

Cogito wrote on Jul 12, 2008 6:40 PM:

" And I'll take the neo-nazis over the minority run gangs any day. "

Cogito wrote on Jul 12, 2008 6:19 PM:

" And, I agree with Lodian, lots of sunshine. I also hate humidity. Arizona looks good to me. Been there, loved it. But I haven't been there on July 15th. "

Cogito wrote on Jul 12, 2008 6:13 PM:

" I know someday want to take all my tax deferred income to a retiree income friendly state. I hope to go somewhere where there are more patriots than parasites. That means a red state to those people from Rio Linda. "

Lodian wrote on Jul 12, 2008 5:50 PM:

" It would be very difficult to give up this California weather. I need sunshine. "

peppier2 wrote on Jul 12, 2008 3:39 PM:

" We moved to Oregon from Lodi--just in time to escape the fires and very high temp.
We have warmer winters than Idaho so that's a plus. The air quality beats everything else. "

dogs4you wrote on Jul 12, 2008 3:17 PM:

" thinkaboutit nailed it down. Nice in the summer but for anyone that doesn`t like their winters below 50, Idaho is not for me. Guess I`ll take Arnold and his $15 billion dollars in debt, along with the Pacific Ocean, Monterey and the entire coast, since that area doesn`t change much and is snow free. "

thinkaboutit wrote on Jul 12, 2008 12:26 PM:

" Congratulations Mr.Weaver! Perhaps our former neighbors are your neighbors in Idaho. They loved it too....until they lived through the first winter and realized how judgemental their neighbors were! I understand their property is now for sale and they are headed back to California with all the liberals! "

nextel wrote on Jul 12, 2008 11:40 AM:

" Ivan, LOL! Love your sense of humor brother. Idaho is a beautiful place to live Mr Weaver, but i'm not ready to give up on California yet. I love having everything at my fingertips like the ocean, the lakes, the mountains, the rivers and even the city when I want it. I don't know if can afford to retire here though or want to. "

Giovanina wrote on Jul 12, 2008 8:58 AM:

" You can keep pointing to the small issues, we will keep looking at the big ones. The invasion of the U.S. is bigger than a small group of Aryans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8vc4xhxwwY "

Giovanina wrote on Jul 12, 2008 8:55 AM:

" Look who is engaging in fear politics.LOL You can try and compare the lack of exposure of this small group to these illegal aliens and Raza racistas in Maywood, but you will fail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfHRMtBNVC4 "

Ivan Dixon wrote on Jul 12, 2008 8:08 AM:

" Coeur d' Alene is well known for its parades. I remember of few years ago I was passing through there when they were having their annual Aryan Nation Parade.

It was quite a sight. They had hundreds of guys marching right down main street, flying all sorts of flags. They had British flags, German flags, Norwegian flags, and of course, right up there in front, the Nazi flag.

It was enough to put any Cinco de Mayo parade to shame. I even found some pictures on the web.

You can check them out for yourselves if you want.

http://www.murrayco.com/CDA_Parade_98.HTML "

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